Photoshops

[LaiLai]

I amarning as I go. I was curious to know, what is a better program for editing and *creating* images. Photoshop Elements
2.0 or Photoshop 7. I know that both programs are more than capable of makeing beautiful pictures, I guess I am just looking for which one might be more newbie friendly!
Thanks All.

[phoby3]

I don't know how much friendlier is to "newbies" but it will certainly be nicer to your pocket.

I think that photoshop has become heavely webcentirc, which is fine with me, but you don't need all the bells and whistles to make a picture look good.

I don't think that Photoshop 6+ is hard to work with, you can start off very slow and work you way into the program, about 60% you will never use for "straight" digital darkroom work.

There are two excellent books out:

Adobe Photoshop for Photographers by Martin Evening

and

Photoshop Artistry by Barry Haynes and Wendy Crumpler

I don't know if they have been updated for PS 7 or not but....

As they say, "I don't know if that answers your question."

[LaiLai]

Thank you for replying!
Any information is better than no responses at all. I am just going to have to get my hands "wet" so too speak.
Thank you,
LaiLai

[slejhamer]

lailai wrote:
I amarning as I go. I was curious to know, what is a better program for editing and *creating* images. Photoshop Elements
2.0 or Photoshop 7. I know that both programs are more than capable of makeing beautiful pictures, I guess I am just looking for which one might be more newbie friendly!
Thanks All.


Download the free trial versions and see which one better meets your needs. Elements will be much more newbie friendly than 7.0. [ I am very glad that I started with LE (the early version of Elements) before upgrading to 6.0. ]

I highly recommend the following free photoshop tutorials / tips pages:

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/instant_photoshop.shtml

http://www.arraich.com/elements/psE_intro.htm
http://www.arraich.com/ps_intro.htm

http://nebulus.org/index.html?pg=tutorial_ps.asp

Good luck.

[Georgees]

I have never used or even been close to a copy of PSE so I have no input as to which one to start out with in the sense of personal use.

However, I don't think you can use actions in PSE? Someone straighten me out on that if that is not true.

I am quite sure PSE does not have scripting. While scripting is in it's infancy, it will come to be widely used I believe in time.

I also doubt Adobe will create it's raw converter (in the works we are told) for PSE. Pretty likely will only be available for their high end product PS.

You might as well bite the bullet, get the real deal and buy PS 7.0. Upgrades after that are not so terrifying in price.

I have never regretted buying back at version 1.1

Regards,

George Smith

[vandevyver]

I can recommend the book : adobe photoshop 7.0 / Classroom in a book.
Good way to get into 'the deep'

Enjoy!
Luc

[Wildman]

Photoshop Elements supports Actions (even version 1.0 does) as well as Plug-Ins. The only significant feature missing in Elements is color separations and a BIG price tag. For the vast majority of users, Elements is more than adequate.

[KenN]

It depends on what kind of picture improvement/alteration you need to do.

PSE doesn't have the PS 7 repair tool, which saves me lots of time getting rid of blemishes, wrinkles and so forth.

It also doesn't have Color Mixer, which I use (oddly enough) to convert my images to greyscale. It lets me essentially convert each color channel independently, giving really nice results.

But my brother, also an avid Photographer, does quite well with PSE alone.

Ken N.