New Canon D10 waterproof Powershot [Archive] - Canon Digital Photography Forums

avarela86

18th of February 2009 (Wed), 01:27

I think its a great step, but I prefer the Olympus Stylus 1030 SW. Its been out for over a year. Really nice camera and takes great pictures in and out of the water.

I've read a lot of mixed reviews about the Olympus Water cameras. Some are just but there are more that simply fail and let water in. When I researched it I found something like 7 our of 10 had issues so I said not worth the risk.

Looking forward to the reviews on this little thing. Would make a nice point and shoot to have so I dont have to take the SLR everywhere.

Collin85

18th of February 2009 (Wed), 01:38

I think this is a winner. The design is decent and Canon has a very good reputation when it comes to executing their P&S models. Although I prefer the spec sheets of other brands such as Panasonic, Canon continually churns out reliable point and shoots with very good image output, usability and metering. Good on Olympus for selling in the waterproof niche all this time, but I had always been waiting for Canon to join the party.

cdifoto

18th of February 2009 (Wed), 01:40

Looks a lot like the Fisher-Price Kid Tough Digital Camera (http://www.fisher-price.com/fp.aspx?st=2620&e=cameralanding) to me.

Seriously though why does it have to look like a kid's camera? At least the Olympus' look like an adult camera that's simply reinforced.

LowriderS10

18th of February 2009 (Wed), 01:44

possibly because it's mainly aimed at a younger generation of photographers? You know, the teens taking it to the beach, a pool party, etc...

cdifoto

18th of February 2009 (Wed), 01:47

Yeah that's right. Because a camera has to look like a bar of soap if it's gonna be at the beach. In the meantime, it looks out of place everywhere else.

Jon

18th of February 2009 (Wed), 11:53

http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&fcategoryid=2590&modelid=18332

ValS

18th of February 2009 (Wed), 14:24

Yes, it may look funny, but I wouldn't care if it takes good pictures and is convenient to use. FWIW, The lens spec seems better than the comparable Fuji and Olympus.

cdifoto

18th of February 2009 (Wed), 14:29

Yes, it may look funny, but I wouldn't care if it takes good pictures and is convenient to use. FWIW, The lens spec seems better than the comparable Fuji and Olympus.
What Fuji do you consider comparable? If you're talking about the Z33WP, I agree. It also looks like a bar of soap though. I'd probably go for an Olympus though if I knew I was abusing my camera a lot. You don't really need (or want) a fast lens in broad daylight so that's kinda moot. Downside is they suck at night. I'm not on the beach much so my standard Fuji is fine. And it looks like a real camera.

ValS

18th of February 2009 (Wed), 14:43

Yes, Z33WP. I actually don't mind the toy-like dinky appearance, that may help deter theft in places where camera is hard to hide (like my wife's bikini :-D)

kja

18th of February 2009 (Wed), 15:21

I'm going to be interested to see this one. The price tag seems high to me since I can grab an excellent A series and a Canon housing for about $300 already.

Love to lay hands on one of these guys, but not sure I'll be popping for the $329...

AngryCorgi

18th of February 2009 (Wed), 16:02

Seriously though why does it have to look like a kid's camera? At least the Olympus' look like an adult camera that's simply reinforced.

Duh... so it looks sexy upon entry into water! ;)

You can have a Canon that slides smoothly into the water...
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3160/3290574343_693bc4a439.jpg

Or a camera that...Oh sh*t it's sinking like a rock!!
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3013/3290574215_37d5788717.jpg

:D

ValS

18th of February 2009 (Wed), 16:11

I agree, that is a very sexy image, and it's been my desktop background since 11 AM today

_aravena

18th of February 2009 (Wed), 23:38

That Canon is hot! I want it so bad now, forget a casing for my SD750. The Olympus was nice for all that jazz but I thought the photos generally sucked. Well, the first couple of models. Not sure of the latest but I'm getting that Canon. I swim for too many springs to not have a camera for it.

heycow

18th of February 2009 (Wed), 23:46

No one wants to comment on the fact that it's being called the D10? Like there isn't enough confusion with names as it is...I can't wait for the new version called the D20, and of course there's the special version for underwater astronomy called the D20a.

I got my brother the first waterproof Olympus (I think it was Olympus) P&S for his wedding and he LOVED it. He used it a ton until he realized the picture quality sucked then bought the new version of it.

Jon

18th of February 2009 (Wed), 23:49

As long as they don't offer D30 and D60 models . . .
D10 = 10 meters depth, maybe.

butangviber

19th of February 2009 (Thu), 00:51

I've read a lot of mixed reviews about the Olympus Water cameras. Some are just but there are more that simply fail and let water in. When I researched it I found something like 7 our of 10 had issues so I said not worth the risk.

Looking forward to the reviews on this little thing. Would make a nice point and shoot to have so I dont have to take the SLR everywhere.
I have had mine in the ocean, pool and shower(dont ask) and have not had a problem. Now I have worked retail for over 3 years in a service department. After seeing the problems that most people have with cameras, I would tend to think that the issues that people are having with the cameras is just no common sense. ie. make sure that the doors are closed before you go into the water, dont open the doors while in the water, dont open them right after you get out of the water and (for me) rinse the camera off with fresh water after getting out of the ocean. My wife and I have had ours for over a year and it works awesome. The only 2 pitfalls of this camera is the fact that you cant optically zoom over 3x and that it uses xD cards. Other than that, I love it.

dan j

19th of February 2009 (Thu), 14:19

Maybe I missed it, when is this sucker coming out???

dan

Jon

19th of February 2009 (Thu), 15:48

April

dan j

19th of February 2009 (Thu), 15:57

April! Uggg, we need it now for my daughters swim classes. Oh well.

Thanks,
dan

AngryCorgi

19th of February 2009 (Thu), 16:27

Check out that monster flash built into that camera. Haven't checked the specs on it yet, but it looks like it will blind a whole school of fishes. ;)

Shark-repellent flash maybe?...a stroboscopic mode that causes seizures in sharks? Imagine the marketing on that! :D

tkbslc

19th of February 2009 (Thu), 16:42

I think the worst part is the 35mm lens. The pentax and olympus weatherproof models have a nice wide angle 28mm lens. I think wide angle is really essential for an outdoors camera.

Plus, I can't imagine someone over 30 using that camera. can you imagine your dad holding that camera to his face and taking a picture? :)

Canay

19th of February 2009 (Thu), 16:43

We are going to Tahiti in May and will be doing some scuba diving. But I just ordered the Canon SD990 to replace my Canon SD500. I can't really justify another $300 camera. But maybe I can justify a father's day gift for my husband. He would probably be the one taking pictures underwater anyway. I usually buy a disposable underwater camera and the images are really not that great at all. And if it is waterproof it would probably be sand proof when we are duning. So the justification begins...

The camera is scheduled for early May which will suck if we go on the trip the first week of May. But it's nice to dream!

justincase724

19th of February 2009 (Thu), 17:11

I'm going to be interested to see this one. The price tag seems high to me since I can grab an excellent A series and a Canon housing for about $300 already.
I think the little additional cost is worth it, compared to the hassle with a housing. I have one for my (now dead and gone) S1is, and when on vacation, I'd just put it in the housing and leave it all week. Now, think how stupid I looked taking pictures with that while at dinner!

Plus, I can't imagine someone over 30 using that camera. can you imagine your dad holding that camera to his face and taking a picture? :)
Hey, I'll be 31 this summer, and I'm seriously thinking about this little thing. If I wear floaties on my arm while using it, will it take the attention away from the kiddie-soap-looking camera?

AngryCorgi

19th of February 2009 (Thu), 17:12

I'm 33 (today) and I would use that camera without hesitation! ;)

I think it looks very fluid and artistic in shape, actually. Do we have to be women to have nice things? :lol:

tkbslc

19th of February 2009 (Thu), 17:19

I'm 33 (today) and I would use that camera without hesitation! ;)

I think it looks very fluid and artistic in shape, actually. Do we have to be women to have nice things? :lol:

Not female, just feminine.

AngryCorgi

19th of February 2009 (Thu), 17:21

Not female, just feminine.

Meh.

I'm a grown man. I don't feel insecure holding attractive things in my hands. :D

dan j

19th of February 2009 (Thu), 17:32

tkbslc

19th of February 2009 (Thu), 18:21

I'm over 30 too and I'd use it in a heartbeat.

Actually, the opposite of your statement is true, tkbslc. Now that I have a kid I'm more willing to look less cool. If it was pink, I'd pass. But, otherwise, it's all about the family now.

dan

I've got 3 kids and I am 30 (started WAY to early :)) and I actually agree. I wouldn't buy it because the lens isn't wide enough, not really just for the styling.

I just had to break down and get a minivan this year, so I lost the remaining few style points I had anyway :D

dan j

19th of February 2009 (Thu), 18:39

Don't feel bad, I sold my sexy, turbo charged, beautiful, stick shift sports car for a SUV :cry:

Back OT, wider is usually better, but I'd still take it.

dan

avarela86

20th of February 2009 (Fri), 01:56

I have had mine in the ocean, pool and shower(dont ask) and have not had a problem. Now I have worked retail for over 3 years in a service department. After seeing the problems that most people have with cameras, I would tend to think that the issues that people are having with the cameras is just no common sense. ie. make sure that the doors are closed before you go into the water, dont open the doors while in the water, dont open them right after you get out of the water and (for me) rinse the camera off with fresh water after getting out of the ocean. My wife and I have had ours for over a year and it works awesome. The only 2 pitfalls of this camera is the fact that you cant optically zoom over 3x and that it uses xD cards. Other than that, I love it.

I went through reading a lot of reviews and like the one you just gave me there was a few and the rest were horror stories. I'm still not convinced, i might need some more persuasion. How do the doors on it close?

As for the way it looks, if it works who cares spray paint it black if you really are worried about looks.

kja

20th of February 2009 (Fri), 03:45

I haven't had a problem with my Oly flooding. I use it around the dogs coz they're so rough. But the image quality is k-rap compared to even my really old Canon A series cameras. IMHO the Olys are way overpriced, miss focus (even the newest version) too often, are s-l-o-w and have mediocre image quality.

But they are rugged :D

monkeymike

20th of February 2009 (Fri), 13:57

ive got my honeymoon coming up in september, and we are looking for a decent u/w camera. im surprised that no one has mentioned the pentax optio w60. up til now it has pretty much only been the olympus and the pentax... nice to see canon come out with a dedicated waterproof model. at least there is some more competition.

~mike

cdifoto

20th of February 2009 (Fri), 14:04

AngryCorgi

20th of February 2009 (Fri), 14:35

Yeah hopefully the D20 will look less like something a 3 year old girl would own though. I mean, those funky colors and shapes are fine and all on the beach but try whipping it out anywhere else. Just because it's waterproof doesn't mean I'm going to be using it ONLY when I'm in or near water.

The front colored faceplate is swappable, if that helps resurrect your masculinity any. ;)

http://www.usa.canon.com/app/images/PowerShot_2009/PS_D10/features/d10_feature_02a.jpg

Hey, look...camo! :lol:

kja

20th of February 2009 (Fri), 16:52

I do wish it had a sleeker shape...I take the Oly to the beach with the dogs because it slips easily into my pocket. I'd rather take one of my A series Canons, but they are bulky - like this one looks. I just put up with the blah quality.

The A series hold up remarkably well to abuse, thankfully, but I like to stick the cam in the water sometimes and I know that one day the dogs will knock the A series for a hard six it won't survive LOL

cdifoto

20th of February 2009 (Fri), 16:59

The front colored faceplate is swappable, if that helps resurrect your masculinity any. ;)

http://www.usa.canon.com/app/images/PowerShot_2009/PS_D10/features/d10_feature_02a.jpg

Hey, look...camo! :lol:
The color actually has very little to do with it. ;)

AngryCorgi

20th of February 2009 (Fri), 18:47

The color actually has very little to do with it. ;)

Whoah! What happened to the porn-centric title?! :lol:

cdifoto

20th of February 2009 (Fri), 19:35

Haha I don't even know where the new one came from.

EDIT: I found it. http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7304746#post7304746

:lol:

Collin85

20th of February 2009 (Fri), 23:40

Just because it's waterproof doesn't mean I'm going to be using it ONLY when I'm in or near water.

Don't get pissy with me.

Cruzatte

22nd of February 2009 (Sun), 14:25

I'll second the Olympus compliments. Mine looks like it's been through a few wars, and, until I lost it a couple months back (I was big-time bummed out), it still clicked just fine.

I even dropped the thing in a fast-moving river once, about 5 feet down. A buddy and I spent no less than 5 minutes searching underwater for it. I mean, that's a long time. When he finally found it, we took a picture to celebrate. Worked like it was fresh out of the box.

Anyway, now that I'm without that little guy, a D10 for my P&S backup sounds awesome. Y'all really think Canon's only going to release it in Toys R Us blue?

AngryCorgi

22nd of February 2009 (Sun), 16:26

Haha I don't even know where the new one came from.

EDIT: I found it. http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7304746#post7304746

:lol:

LOL... great thread! :lol:

alaskacanoe

1st of March 2009 (Sun), 23:48

this little camera looks great for white water rafting and kayak trips.
I also like to snorkle and my wife needs a new point and shoot.. so..
not only will I be getting the D-10 in May, for Mothers day.. but I am getting the SX1 IS in April also..
Our canon cache is growing..
Max

mcinfantry@me.com

2nd of March 2009 (Mon), 00:32

i have an optio w60, i like the canon.

thejedi

3rd of March 2009 (Tue), 15:34

Wow, water proof? That's crazy, will their ever be a slr like that? Hm...

Jon

3rd of March 2009 (Tue), 15:36

Nikon already made one - the Nikonos RS, which uses film (if you can still find one).

S2000

9th of March 2009 (Mon), 16:55

I have a Optio W60 28mm and it's a great camera.

I also use the S70 w/underwater housing

The issue for me is how many times do I need a go below 13ish ft underwater to take photo/movie.

For me I need a pocket camera that takes good pictures/movies, outdoors, and in sunlight while being able to wet wet up to 10ft underwater. The S70 and underwater housing is more than I need for this.

The Canon is 35mm, BUT....f2.8 for me I'd take the wider angle as I don't need f2.8 in bright sunlight.

IdahoPics

12th of March 2009 (Thu), 15:15

As others have indicated I also have the Olympus Stylus 1030 SW and think it does a fine job. I'll be anxious to learn more and see photos with the Canon D10.

dan j

27th of March 2009 (Fri), 23:20

Is it April yet? ;)

I checked out the Olympus & Fuji waterproof cameras at Best Buy tonight. The deepest water whatever camera I buy will be in is 10 feet. Deeper than that, you loose too much light, right? (I'm talking about pool & beach stuff, not snorkeling pictures of coral)

The problem seems to be that a lot of folks report that the manufacturers are on drugs if they think their camera can go 10' (or 30'). Looking at the Pentax, Fuji and Olympus reviews there's a lot of water seal failures. So, will the Canon D10 be any different?

Dang. Hopefully Costco sells the D10 since I would rather return it than spend time dealing with Canon if it leaks. Costco does sell the Olympus 1030SW.

Did anyone suggest the Canon waterproof cases? Seems like Canon designed them so you can use all the buttons. The price, with the camera, is around $300, which is less than the D10 and the case is rated to 130'. Anything wrong with them?

dan

MetroPhoto

28th of March 2009 (Sat), 20:36

Did anyone suggest the Canon waterproof cases? Seems like Canon designed them so you can use all the buttons. The price, with the camera, is around $300, which is less than the D10 and the case is rated to 130'. Anything wrong with them? http://www.tracker-analytics.com/track/img/3358/s09v0317fvxp/00.gif

dan

$300 is a pretty decent price. http://www.tracker-analytics.com/track/img/3400/m09d0317xktz/2.gif

dan j

28th of March 2009 (Sat), 21:31

I know! Too bad my wife doesn't agree - yet ;) It seems to me that the only thing I'd miss is the impact protection, right?

Does anyone know how the waterproof case affects image quality on a SD1100 or something similar?

Thanks,
dan

kja

3rd of April 2009 (Fri), 04:41

The Canon housings are the bees knees :) I have multiple housings and have had for years. I love them all. They just work.

No impact on the quality really as long as you keep your port clean.

Well worth the pricetag (most Canon housings are around $160ish) if you are going in the water, I reckon.

binliner

3rd of April 2009 (Fri), 04:53

Second that on the waterproof housings... I've got one for my A640 and it's great. Only reason I can see for getting the D10 for me is that it has IS and is less bulky, will see what the price is like over here.

EDIT: RRP is £379 so I'll be putting up with a little more bulk and no IS ;)

dan j

3rd of April 2009 (Fri), 17:08

I keep going back and for on the D10 (or any waterproof) camera. I like the really small/thin size of the pocket cameras. Adding a Canon w.p. case makes them the same price as the D10, and you're ACTUALLY SEALED which seems to be a problem area for the D10's competitors. Then, I consider the Aquasafe (I'm only going in the pool or maybe in the surf) and it's so much cheaper than the D10.

dan

atlphotographers

10th of April 2009 (Fri), 15:01

Very cool little camera - might have to have one for the random beach days...

dan j

10th of April 2009 (Fri), 18:02

Well we couldn't wait any longer for the D10 so we upgraded the SD780 IS. So far we're really happy with the pictures. I can't believe how small it is. We do have to buy the underwater case ($160) but with the Canon case it will be waterproof to 130' so our shallow water trips to the beach won't be an issue. It's about $100 more, but the peace of mind and HD video will make it worth it j- hopefully ;)

dan

gama

28th of April 2009 (Tue), 10:42

bump!

Anyone got the D10 yet? Saw someone posted a link to user review at Dpreview. Samples look decent although skies are easily blown-out. Looks like you can zoom when taking video, not sure if this is new/old feature as I cannot do this with my fuji compact.

Too bad there was no sample underwater.

Hope to see more samples, thinking of getting one.

dan j

28th of April 2009 (Tue), 11:43

Can they optically zoom or is it digital? Most, it seems, only zoom digitally once the video mode is started. That's true even on my SD780 IS with it's newer technology HD video format.

dan

joeb1

6th of May 2009 (Wed), 21:55

Yes, Z33WP. I actually don't mind the toy-like dinky appearance, that may help deter theft in places where camera is hard to hide (like my wife's bikini :-D)

We need pictures... :)

the black fox

8th of May 2009 (Fri), 20:07

it looks fine to me ,personally i prefer a larger casing for underwater which is why the housings work well ,this is going on my wish list for my return to the red sea next year ,i have looked at the olympus range of u/w cameras but they seem to be to small and fiddly for a few hours use underwater.i have used a powershot a400 with housing for a few years now and despite upgrading to a ixus with u/w housing last year i still prefer the a400 .i think the oversized solid look of the d10 will prove to be its main selling point .started my savings account for one already :cool:

Cruzatte

8th of May 2009 (Fri), 22:33

jin39

9th of May 2009 (Sat), 10:47

They're shipping these puppies with alternate face-plates, is that correct? Remember reading it somewhere, but I've been clicking through the pre-order sites and theirs no mention of them (that I've found). http://www.tracker-data.com/data/img/3816/s09v0317fvxp/00.gif

I mean... I guess I don't even need to ask this. I don't seriously believe they're trying to sell the camera only in blue. ... Right?

yea i think they have alternate face plates

thomasro3

1st of June 2009 (Mon), 11:43

Yes... but no accessories are available yet.

thomasro3

1st of June 2009 (Mon), 11:46

I love this camera.

The video doesn't like the sun in the background though.

justincase724

1st of June 2009 (Mon), 16:45

I love this camera.

The video doesn't like the sun in the background though.

Can you post up some sample pictures for us? And have you had a chance to use it underwater yet?

thomasro3

1st of June 2009 (Mon), 20:18

D10 PICTURES AND VIDEO EXAMPLES ARE HERE (http://gallery.me.com/tro3#100024)Ok a few pictures and videos from my daughter's swim class. And one from last Memorial Day Weekend in the Sun to show everyone what I was talking about. This definitely doesn't happen with my 5DM2 Video but then I would take that into the pool.

After using it this weekend I've decided to exchange for another D10. Mine does not like the sun....and it had two dead pixels which I only noticed at night while reviewing photos... I still love the camera and it is a deal considering purchasing another powershot with housing.

Comments Welcome! Advice is much appreciated. Oh I should mention that the underwater setting increases the red...So I just left it on auto most of the time.

http://gallery.me.com/tro3/100024/IMG_0009/web.jpg?ver=12439018320001
http://gallery.me.com/tro3/100024/IMG_0018/web.jpg?ver=12439018330001

thomasro3

1st of June 2009 (Mon), 20:46

They're shipping these puppies with alternate face-plates, is that correct? Remember reading it somewhere, but I've been clicking through the pre-order sites and theirs no mention of them (that I've found).

I mean... I guess I don't even need to ask this. I don't seriously believe they're trying to sell the camera only in blue. ... Right?

All the camera's are sold in Blue... You can purchase the additional face plates as well as a neck lanyard and neoprene case. None of which are available yet. The accessories are all listed on the dpreview.com
Optional Accessories
The PowerShot D10 can be combined with the following accessories:

Soft Case (SC-DC70)
High Power Flash (HF-DC1)
Front Cover Set (FC-DC1)
AC Adapter Kit (ACK-DC40)
Shoulder & Neck Strap Set (STP-DC1)***
Carabiner Strap (STP-DC2)***
* IEC/JIS IP Protection Rating IPX8 equivalent
** IEC/JIS IP Protection Rating IPX6 equivalent
*** Optional straps are not designed for use under water

Jon

2nd of June 2009 (Tue), 10:43

D10 PICTURES AND VIDEO EXAMPLES ARE HERE Ok a few pictures and videos from my daughter's swim class. And one from last Memorial Day Weekend in the Sun to show everyone what I was talking about. This definitely doesn't happen with my 5DM2 Video but then I would take that into the pool.

After using it this weekend I've decided to exchange for another D10. Mine does not like the sun....and it had two dead pixels which I only noticed at night while reviewing photos... I still love the camera and it is a deal considering purchasing another powershot with housing.

Comments Welcome! Advice is much appreciated. Oh I should mention that the underwater setting increases the red...So I just left it on auto most of the time.

You'd really only want "underwater" if you're deeper than your average pool; red light is absorbed by water faster than the other colours are, so the "Underwater" white balance tries to restore some of it. A custom white balance would be your best option if you're seeing some loss of reds under normal settings but the Underwater" setting is too much. For that matter, setting WB to "Cloudy" may help some.

thomasro3

2nd of June 2009 (Tue), 11:09

You'd really only want "underwater" if you're deeper than your average pool; red light is absorbed by water faster than the other colours are, so the "Underwater" white balance tries to restore some of it. A custom white balance would be your best option if you're seeing some loss of reds under normal settings but the Underwater" setting is too much. For that matter, setting WB to "Cloudy" may help some.

Thanks, I'll give that a try.

on_ice

2nd of June 2009 (Tue), 11:43

thomasro3

2nd of June 2009 (Tue), 11:51

I have been waiting for this!!! Hopefully the pictures are nicer then my friends 1030SW, which I love. The 1030 takes pretty good pics, we abused the hell out of it yesterday behind the boat. Hopefully this takes better indoor/night pictures and is as small as the 1030.

This is not as small but it does take good indoor and night photos. It definitely will leave a noticeable bulge in your pocked. The lens is an f/2.8 compared to the 1030SW F/3.5 - F5.1. I don't think the canon shoots as wide though.

mrkgoo

4th of June 2009 (Thu), 16:22

I was curious about this camera, but it seems the Panasonic TS1 does so much more: wider and longer focal range, 720p video.

thomasro3

4th of June 2009 (Thu), 17:49

I was curious about this camera, but it seems the Panasonic TS1 does so much more: wider and longer focal range, 720p video.

I have to say the Lumix (Panisonic) TS1 is my favorite color in Blaze orange and it consitently ranked far from the bottom when comparing features according to the following website. BUT, I particulary like the larger flash on the Canon.
Olympus Tough 8000 vs. Panasonic TS1 vs. Fujifilm Z33WP in Waterproof Shootout
http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/10259.html
and then
Canon PowerShot D10 Underwater Cam And New A-series Cameras
http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/10128.html

ayman86

4th of June 2009 (Thu), 18:11

I have to say the Lumix (Panisonic) TS1 is my favorite color in Blaze orange but it consitently ranked at the bottom when comparing features according to the following website. I particulary like the larger flash on the Canon.
Olympus Tough 8000 vs. Panasonic TS1 vs. Fujifilm Z33WP in Waterproof Shootout
http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/10259.html

what do you mean at the bottom? it was the winner in most tests

thomasro3

4th of June 2009 (Thu), 18:27

what do you mean at the bottom? it was the winner in most tests

Sorry, I'm an idiot...I meant to say far from the bottom. I really can't multi task. Yes. It was the round by round winner.

I found a head to head review.
Toughcam Battle: Canon PowerShot D10 vs. Panasonic Lumix DMC-TS1 (http://gizmodo.com/5232843/toughcam-battle-canon-powershot-d10-vs-panasonic-lumix-dmc+ts1)
http://gizmodo.com/5232843/toughcam-battle-canon-powershot-d10-vs-panasonic-lumix-dmc+ts1

For me I do go deeper than 10ft when I snorkel. That and the 2.8 sort of sold me. I do wish the video was HD like the PowerShot SD780 IS I think...it was red in color. In fact. I think I'd take a waterproof version of this to the bulkier D10 but I made my choice. I also have a 4yr old so this camera is going to be abused. It looks like the protective lens can be replaced on the Canon. This review leans toward the Panisonic.

gama

25th of June 2009 (Thu), 13:14

Finally got mine yesterday.

Just a brief comments:
1. Body
Overall bulky, surprisingly lighter than I imagined. I expected metal body like my old S50 but D10 uses polycarbonate, doesn't feel like it'll survives 1m drop? The interchangeable face-plate is also very plastic, not worth buying in my opinion. I like the buttons, large and easy to press.

2. Initial image quality
Haven't used it long enough but overall acceptable. Typical canon, the colour is bright & punchy. The lens is sharp enough. AWB under tungsten light is quite bad although the preset tungsten WB works very well. After using fuji f31 for the past 2 years, D10's skin tone (asian) is not as accurate as fuji. D10's flash seems more powerfull but often harsher, fuji's flash is more balanced/natural. The IS works! I wish my f31 has this.

Tried the i-contrast on back-lit subject and the result is not so good (very grainy and colour washed-out) but perhaps the condition I tried was too harsh. The scene detection technology didn't seem to work as advertised as well since the flash didn't fire in backlit subject.

The face detection works well, I took a picture of an object and behind it was a picture with a face in it and the camera actually recognised it as a face!

Overall, I think I prefer the image quality of fuji f31 but I really need the waterproof feature and I think Canon's general image quality is more than acceptable for all-round camera. Too bad the camera came late for my beach holiday last week :(

3. Video
Didn't use much but as many commented, the quality is so-so, not as good as the current Ixus offerings. The sound quality is a little muted, which canon claims is due to the waterproof feature.

4. Accessories
The accessories are sold as a bundle. I was only interested in one of the carabiner straps and the soft case but buying separately is more expensive so ended up with the whole lot (3 face-plate, soft-pouch & 3 straps). To my surprise the manual says the strap cannot be used underwater?

Will try to post some samples once I have played over the coming weekend.

Pitter

2nd of July 2009 (Thu), 09:50

I just purchased online an SD1200 and the $29.95 underwater housing for those very occaisional snorkling trips. If I could say I go on frequent snorkling trips I would be tempted by this underwater model but without a viewfinder it seems kind of single purpose and I´d probably want to back it up with a "dry land" model.

Cruzatte

7th of July 2009 (Tue), 04:42

It's been absolutely fantastic so far. Accessory kit costs nearly $100, however, which makes me disappointed in Canon--it also makes me wonder how Canon plans to sell these things when for all intents and purposes it's a $400 camera if you don't want to carry it around in aqua blue.

The accessories are a soft, loose-fitting carrying pouch (ho-hum), three new colored faceplates (two of which are quite ugly, in my opinion), and two woven nylon rip cord attachments. The attachments were terrific for diving, although you've got to be careful--every time I got near the 10 meter mark, the camera would sink down an extra three feet (ostensibly, though surely not practicably, putting it in danger of imploding). Of course, that's all mostly my fault.

Only other gripe is the lack of a lens cover. Okay, I get that it's scratch-proof glass sealing in the lens, but there's no such thing as smudge proof glass. When you find yourself using a lens pen to clear the grease off the glass of your rugged, everything-proof point & shoot--even before you've exposed it to any elements beyond your pocket--you're dealing with a design flaw.

Anyway, here's one from about 9.5 meters--pushing it.

Edit: also, facial recognition worked more often than not with masks on, which is nice.

Allen Newt

8th of July 2009 (Wed), 00:21

Looking at getting an outdoor/waterproof camera. Looking at the Canon Powershot D10 and Panasonic Lumix DMC-TS1 12MP Digital Camera. Which would would you take? And why?

Cruzatte

8th of July 2009 (Wed), 00:50

Looking at getting an outdoor/waterproof camera. Looking at the Canon Powershot D10 and Panasonic Lumix DMC-TS1 12MP Digital Camera. Which would would you take? And why?

The Canon. Because it says "Canon" on the front.

They know what they're doing, I guess is what I mean to say.

Cruzatte

8th of July 2009 (Wed), 21:43

Also of note; it's done a terrific job with salt water so far. I've kept it in a rinse bucket pretty constantly, but there really aren't any signs that it's been under even after a week of regular exposure. Same couldn't be said for my old Olympus.

And re: it being a Canon, the GUI is terrific in that I know exactly how to use it. If I'm screwing with ISO or shooting to the right or whatever (the sorts of things DSLR guys try to do on a P&S), it's great not to have to learn a new system.

Finally, as opposed to my last P&S (an old Olympus Stylus (one of their first *-proof models)), the IQ here is fantastic.

As someone once said, if Canon would just stop making their point & shoots so good, maybe people would finally know them for their great DSLRs.

crobs808

28th of July 2009 (Tue), 18:15

gratianus

29th of July 2009 (Wed), 18:00

gama

31st of July 2009 (Fri), 13:15

How does the D10 do not underwater but just as a P&S? I've been agonizing about spending the bucks for a Canon casing for my 850IS, but would buy the D10 were the pix even close to what I get from the 850. In short, is the D10 a solid out-of-water Canon, and if so, what is it comparable to?

If you're not intending to use it underwater/near-water, others might be better.

I bought one mainly for pool/beach camera. It is fun to use and in general, outdoor shots (in/out of water) is great. However, in full AUTO the AWB often gives out too yellowish skin-tone outdoors and reddish indoors (for Asian skin), especially with flash. I get better result using P-mode and neutral colour. Using P-mode and std colour, I found D10 is also often over-saturating the colour, which might be ok for other subject but I find it annoying for portrait.

At least, my fuji is giving me more accurate white balance and skin tone, although more often underexposed. I never use 850IS but I would imagine it to perform better.

Digipanther

31st of July 2009 (Fri), 22:03

I might like it as an all weather camera. When its raining out - all I think about is that I'm missing out on taking photos! The underwater feature is nice but shooting in the rain and - if memory serves - in freezing temperatures (to -10C) is the real draw for me - all weather, all season shooting.

Next we'll see waterproof super-zooms by the end of 2010!
(10x zoom would be quite impressive, and it will inevitably happen)

flickserve

1st of August 2009 (Sat), 11:38

I bought a D10 a couple of weeks ago. Really good fun to use it in the pool. Haven't used it as a P&S outside - I have a FD31 for that. But very satisfied with the purchase.

cdreemz17

1st of August 2009 (Sat), 12:09

It'll be interesting to see how it holds up...

crobs808

3rd of August 2009 (Mon), 15:23

ShroomSJS

15th of August 2009 (Sat), 01:26

Hi! I'm new to the forum, and pretty new to photography. We have an old Fuji P&S (only 4MP) that we finally decided to replace. We bought the D10 last weekend. So far I have only used it on land. Can't wait to take it snorkeling. My hubby plans on taking it in the water tomorrow as he's going on a dive trip.

I'm very excited to have the D10 and I'm constantly playing with it and trying to learn the settings. I really don't know what ISO or IS or iContrast or any of those mean. I have never been much into cameras because I have very shaky hands. Can anyone recommend a beginner's book? (My hubby is hoping to buy an EOS soon. We have never had an SLR. So he's interested in learning more too.)

For those of you who have already taken the D10 underwater, did you protect it in anyway (case or bag)? My hubby is convinced that it will break the 1st time we use it underwater, so he's going to put it in a ziploc bag.

mlav

15th of August 2009 (Sat), 04:45

The photos AND videos from my G9 plus waterproof housing are amazing.

Keep that in mind 'ya G owners.

kja

15th of August 2009 (Sat), 20:40

For those of you who have already taken the D10 underwater, did you protect it in anyway (case or bag)? My hubby is convinced that it will break the 1st time we use it underwater, so he's going to put it in a ziploc bag.
If you put it in a baggie your photos will not be as clear.

Check the o-rings on it for any debris - look at them under a bright light.

Get in the water...it'll be fine if you're reasonably careful with your maintenance. That's what it's built for!

Have fun!

Mack_S

17th of August 2009 (Mon), 17:22

I purchased one of these D10 for the water proof-ness and shock resistance as I do a lot of fishing and hunting and don't want to worry about getting it wet while out in the wilderness. Tested it out this past weekend on a trip to Cedar Point amusement park and resort in Sandusky, Ohio. Camera worked great and took great pictures in and out of the water. Unfortunatly the below water pictures didn't come out well due to the cloudiness of the water in Lake Erie. NOT the camera's fault. Shock resistance held up great too as I had it in my pocket on all the great rides in the park and never had any issues with operation of the camera. Got about 230 pictures out of one battey before it died. That included multiple viewing sessions of the pictures to relive the adventures of the day. All the pictures looked good and sharp and looked fine on the PC when I downloaded them at home. Colors looked natural and vibrant. I haven't tried printing ay yet but don't anticipate any issues. Overall I really like this camera and would highly recomend it to anyone in the market for it.

-Mack

SnapATang

19th of August 2009 (Wed), 12:10

I like the design! It gives it a sleek look. I recently bought a waterproof case for my SD800 IS, now that looks like a toy from Fisher Price.

dan j

19th of August 2009 (Wed), 12:44

A FP toy that can go deep sea diving ;)

dan

kandyredcoi

21st of August 2009 (Fri), 05:39

ok time for a new P&S

im thinking of purchasing this camera because of its advertised ruggedness, i hope it does not dissappoint

anyone care to post some pics?

ShroomSJS

22nd of August 2009 (Sat), 01:44

anyone care to post some pics?

You can check out my Flickr page. All the pics from the Kerama Island set were taken with the D10. I have some other random photos on Flickr, not in sets, that were taken with the D10.

We are taking it snorkeling in about an hour! Wish me luck. I am so scared that I will come back with a $325 paperweight.

kandyredcoi

22nd of August 2009 (Sat), 05:49

You can check out my Flickr page. All the pics from the Kerama Island set were taken with the D10. I have some other random photos on Flickr, not in sets, that were taken with the D10.

We are taking it snorkeling in about an hour! Wish me luck. I am so scared that I will come back with a $325 paperweight.
sweet, good luck, post pics afterwards

thanx!

Snow001

23rd of August 2009 (Sun), 18:10

Purchased one several weeks ago and took it with us when we went snorkeling in Puerto Rico. My only regret is that I should have taken more pictures with the camera. On the hands of a better photographer I'm sure these pictures would be better. Im pretty happy with my purchase and did not want to bother using an underwater case for my G10. my photoshop skills are unfortunately still below basic so I unfortunately did some automated balancing on these pictures. I also used the camera to take some videos and they came out pretty well in my standards :)

D10 underwater pictures (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31593241@N06/show/)

_aravena

23rd of August 2009 (Sun), 20:50

Once again, too expensive. Pentax had the cheapest and great version with the W series. Olympus pretty much owns this market and now they have a cheap and more expensive model beating Canon in two areas. Shouldn't have wasted their time. I hate Olympus but I'd get it over the Canon on price alone.

kja

23rd of August 2009 (Sun), 21:23

Except image quality on the Olympus is decidedly average and they are dirt slow to focus and take the shot. And they still have a problem with actually nailing focus in the first place, which is SO frustrating

Worth the extra bucks to me if another camera does better. Still haven't managed to lay hands on this little Canon, yet :(

_aravena

23rd of August 2009 (Sun), 21:29

Where have you heard that? I've seen plenty of galleries of great photos and even used a few and like I said, I hate them. Sorry, but that's a no go.

Craig H

23rd of August 2009 (Sun), 21:59

I just purchased this camera. I am taking it snorkeling in Aruba in September. I also thought it would make a nice backup camera for shooting fires in nasty weather.

kja

23rd of August 2009 (Sun), 22:01

It's not hearing, it's seeing and actually using the cameras. I've had hands on with every one of the Olys other than the 1050. They are OK, but not more than that and their downsides are totally frustrating to me. I keep wanting a good one in this series, but it has not happened so far.

Everything looks good online & even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes :)

ShroomSJS

24th of August 2009 (Mon), 06:52

Well, we finally made it into the water. And our camera still works!! It was a pretty cloudy day, unfortunately, but I still managed to get a few pics.

Check my flickr page and view the Devil's Cove set.

dan j

27th of August 2009 (Thu), 09:32

True, but it's not just a depth rating. It's more of a pressure rating. Lots of folks reported failures while in the surf. Just a crashing wave can put out enough pressure to force water past the seals and into the camera.

dan

TwoSevensClash

1st of September 2009 (Tue), 19:48

After the WSJ's article comparing the FujiFilm 733 and Canon D10 (and being a Canon bigot to the extent of owning Canon stock since 1976), looking at the D10 it sounds good, except! It includes the DIGIC IV processor (yayyyy!!!) but nowhere do I find anything that says it will store RAW images.

I'd (leaving the DSLRs on dry land) take the thing kayaking, into a pool, the ocean, Everglades swamps, but no RAW images limits postprocessing in Photoshop.

Am I failing to find something?

John
Boca Raton (I was serious about the 'Glades)

jr_senator

5th of September 2009 (Sat), 19:37

Why all the excitement? I've had a small format, waterproof camera for years. It has not been used in a long, long time though.

Jon

5th of September 2009 (Sat), 20:30

. . . because you're having a hard time getting 110 format film?

jr_senator

6th of September 2009 (Sun), 00:43

Actually, I have a couple rolls in the freezer (along with some 127 and Kodachrome film). Only place that I know that still processes it (along with disc, 126 and Kodachrome) is Dwayne's.

anthon05

8th of September 2009 (Tue), 22:53

i just don't like the looks of the D10... i'm thinking of buying one for my outdoor escapades but just don't like the soap like look..
i hope canon makes it look more like a camera.. like having sort of rubber coating or something, looks for water or outdoor use.

just a comment..

verymagicalguy

11th of September 2009 (Fri), 06:12

Could care less how it looks, as long as it performs as it's advertised!

kandyredcoi

11th of September 2009 (Fri), 06:19

^what he said :D

Craig H

20th of September 2009 (Sun), 00:43

Well I got back from Aruba. I have about 2,500 pictures I need to process. I have a couple of pictures that I have taken with the D10. Biggest issue I had with this camera underwater was waterproof sunscreen.

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