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felix21685
29th of March 2005 (Tue), 13:46
hello fellow photographers,

this is my first post so please bear with me :).
I have the elan 7e and i dont find myself using it much since i am in college and dont quite have the funds to keep messing with film and all that.

Ive also got an old yashica mat124g which i could sell to get some money towards
a rebel xt.

now. i am 6 foot 4" and i have heard complaints that the camera is too small? anyone agree with this ..i plan on getting the battery grip to make it a little larger eventually.. i have read some reviews about the camera and i have 2 sigma lenses a 28-70 (something like that) and a 70-300mm lens

would you recommend me selling the smaller lens with my elan body and pick up a rebel xt with the lens or just keep it and get the rebel xt body?

also i know what ISO does in film the higher the iso the faster the object can move ect ect..is this the same in digital Slrs? i know they produce more "noise" but the idea is the same correct?

thanks for all your help
-Felix

tim
29th of March 2005 (Tue), 15:30
Have a look at the lens reviews (http://www.photographyreview.com/Lenses/PSC_3787crx.aspx) there and at fredmiranda.com , that'll help you decide whether or not to keep the lens. If you have big hands maybe it'd be best to play with an XT before you comit to purchasing one.

ISO works the same on digital cameras as with film. Depending on the camera the noise might be better or worse than film, 20D/XT are pretty good, 10D/300D are a bit noisier (spelling?). I can't compare with film because I never used any film camera other than a P&S.

felix21685
29th of March 2005 (Tue), 15:48
and the whole 1.6x factor...
so if i have a 70-300 mm lens itll will be 300mm x1.6??

Andy_T
29th of March 2005 (Tue), 15:55
Felix,

1) welcome to the forum :D

2) even the 300D/10D (which is not quite as good as the 20D/350D) gives you a similar noise performance at ISO 1600 as film at ISO 400 ... so very good actually. The 300D should be available used at very attractive prices now, maybe a consideration for you.

3) And the 1.6 factor ... yes, it's true. It will give you picture that look very much (field of view) like pictures from a 112-480 mm film camera.

Best regards,
Andy

JaertX
29th of March 2005 (Tue), 21:20
i am 6 foot 4" and i have heard complaints that the camera is too small? anyone agree with this ..

Although the camera itself may look tiny in relation to your height, it's the size of your hands that really matters.;)

Just kidding.

Anyway, why not keep the camera you have and save up for the dslr? It's always fun to shoot film every once in a while.

felix21685
29th of March 2005 (Tue), 21:23
hey Andy,

I just noticed u live in the city i was born in. I was born in Frauenkopf..I believe thats where it was. I lived there for 11 years.

anyways.

I stopped by the local Ritz Camera today..and man i am in love... the rebel xt is an awesome camera. And if i think about putting a sigma 300mm on there with my 2x teleconverter..i will...pee myself..of course it will have to be a very sunny day:) but it will be fun to have that camera.

and what i noticed is that the CF card in the rebel xt at ritz had a max speed of only 1.6mb/sec..which is nothing close to the scandisk ultra II

What is the max write speed of the rebel xt? i cant seem to find it anywhere..

thanks for all the help guys..cant wait to get my hands on one of these puppies..
-Felix

tim
29th of March 2005 (Tue), 21:37
Look at the specs for the 20D, it'll be almost identical.

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=6007

felix21685
29th of March 2005 (Tue), 22:00
hey tim thanks for that link..its the perfect site for what im looking for

by the way why dont slr's use SD its faster ?

Jesper
30th of March 2005 (Wed), 02:22
now. i am 6 foot 4" and i have heard complaints that the camera is too small? anyone agree with this ..i plan on getting the battery grip to make it a little larger eventually.. i have read some reviews about the camera and i have 2 sigma lenses a 28-70 (something like that) and a 70-300mm lensGo to a local shop that has it and see for yourself if it is too small for you. Nobody else can decide for you if it's too small, your own experience is the only thing that counts for you....

felix21685
30th of March 2005 (Wed), 15:33
how come the silver body is for sale for less than the black?
shouldn't they be the same?

Also could someone explain white balancing to me please :)

thanks alot guys
-Felix

Jon
31st of March 2005 (Thu), 07:43
by the way why dont slr's use SD its faster ?
Primarily because SD cards are just starting to catch up with the CF cards in capacity. If you shoot RAW, 256 MB or 512 MB will fill up very fast.
how come the silver body is for sale for less than the black?
shouldn't they be the same?
Presumably the vendor you're seeing this at is pricing the black body at a premium because, for historic (although mostly mythical) reasons, the black body is considered more "professional". The two have identical MSRP.

Also could someone explain white balancing gto me please
You've no doubt run into daylight and tungsten-balanced films, or at least seen cases where your photos indoors came out with strange colours when you used "normal" film. Your eyes magically adjust so that something we "know" is white will look white. Film, or image sensors, aren't that smart (although AWB, automatic white balance, does a fairly good job most of the time). "Normal" daylight is much bluer in colour than incandescent lighting, which in turn is bluer than a candle or firelight. So pictures using a daylight film, or daylight colour balance, under incandescent lights will look "warmer" than they "should". The white balance settings on digital cameras let you "dial in" the correction to the red, blue, and green colour channels to use for your lighting conditions. And if the conditions are really strange (sodium- or mercury vapour or fluorescent lights, say), or you're not sure, you can photograph a neutral white or grey card and use CWB (custom white balance) and the camera will figure out what adjustments need to be made to get proper colour rendering under that light.

felix21685
31st of March 2005 (Thu), 10:45
Jon thank you for taking the time to explain that to me..it makes alot more sense now..thanks again

-Felix