"Clicks" in the Buy and Sell Forum

[bauerman]

Has anyone else noticed that the flavor of the month in the buy and sell forum lately is "How many clicks does it have?" I am seemingly seeing this more and more than I ever did before. Like shutter count has become the new end all be all of deciding if a used body is worth our time. And a lot of these are on bodies where you simply don't know how many 'clicks' there are on the body.

The new trend that I am seeing is the same question being posed to people selling lenses. How many "clicks" on the lens? I don't think that aperture mechanisms are duty rated like a shutter mechanism. And there is certainly no way to know on a lens how many times it has been used in the photo taking process.

Next we will see the 'clicks' question asked for flashes, CF cards, straps, bags, etc.... ;)

[Tdragone]

I'm glad someone else has the same pet peeve I do!
Thanks

[bauerman]

Finally - at least one brother in the "clicks" discussion aversion!

[oneeyejack]

so are you telling me that if were considering buying a used camera (that was selling at the same price) and one had a count of 10k vs one that had 2k, you wouldn't care?

i find that hard to believe.

[stathunter]

Shutter count is not the end all but it is like buying a car......how many miles on it. From my experience the more miles on a lens-- the more warn it looks-- so no real need to ask for a count -- not that anyone would know.
You go ahead and buy whatever you would like- without asking questions but I will ask for shutter count when applicable.

[tomd]

Like shutter count has become the new end all be all of deciding if a used body is worth our time.

I don't think worth our time...but certainly worth the asking price. A body with 5K clicks is worth something different than a similar body with 120k clicks.

[bauerman]

so are you telling me that if were considering buying a used camera (that was selling at the same price) and one had a count of 10k vs one that had 2k, you wouldn't care?

i find that hard to believe.

It's only ONE factor to look at when looking at a used body. And for a shutter rated at 100,000 cycles there is not a ton of difference statistically between 10K and 2K. The 2K camera could have been beat to bloody hell and improperly cared for, or have a scratched sensor, or a flash that wont pop up. Shutter count is not the end all be all of buying a used camera. (And the worst part is half the cameras being asked about you cannot tell or know how many shots are on them.......)


Shutter count is not the end all but it is like buying a car......how many miles on it. From my experience the more miles on a lens-- the more warn it looks-- so no real need to ask for a count -- not that anyone would know.
You go ahead and buy whatever you would like- without asking questions but I will ask for shutter count when applicable.

Sure - ask for it when its applicable (on a camera body - not a lens) and then maybe only worry about it when its a camera body that can actually provide the information.

I don't think worth our time...but certainly worth the asking price. A body with 5K clicks is worth something different than a similar body with 120k clicks.

This is a drastic example and I would agree with you here. It's just on so many bodies its guess work how many clicks are actually there.

[oneeyejack]

It's only ONE factor to look at when looking at a used body. And for a shutter rated at 100,000 cycles there is not a ton of difference statistically between 10K and 2K. The 2K camera could have been beat to bloody hell and improperly cared for, or have a scratched sensor, or a flash that wont pop up. Shutter count is not the end all be all of buying a used camera. (And the worst part is half the cameras being asked about you cannot tell or know how many shots are on them.......)


yes, it's one factor to look at but if everything was the same (ie. aesthetically, wear, price, etc) i still think you would go for the one with less actuations.

[bauerman]

yes, it's one factor to look at but if everything was the same (ie. aesthetically, wear, price, etc) i still think you would go for the one with less actuations.

Or in the case of a 10D, 20D, 30D, XTI, XT or any other similar model I would take the one with the lowest made up/guesstimate of total actuation numbers! :D;)