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Crazified
6th of April 2005 (Wed), 08:59
I'm in the market to buy a used Mark II. Is there a way you can tell how many pictures have been taken (ie- shutter actuations)? I've looked through all of the menu options but can't seem to find the info. Perhaps I'm missing it? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
Jim_T
6th of April 2005 (Wed), 09:04
It's been said there is an internal 'lifetime' shutter count, but it isn't visible from the menu. It's also been said you require special software to access the count..

This sounds plausible, but I don't know if it's true or not. If it's not true, then there is no way to determine the total shutter count of an EOS digital camera.
defordphoto
6th of April 2005 (Wed), 09:23
Someone will probably pop in before I get home, but I have a utility at home that will tell you the count on any EOS 1-series camera.
DaveG
6th of April 2005 (Wed), 09:30
Someone will probably pop in before I get home, but I have a utility at home that will tell you the count on any EOS 1-series camera.
If you can post it somewhere, or tell us where it can be found, it'd be a very useful utility to have.
neil_r
6th of April 2005 (Wed), 09:30
Someone will probably pop in before I get home, but I have a utility at home that will tell you the count on any EOS 1-series camera.

Please share :D

Cheers

N
defordphoto
6th of April 2005 (Wed), 09:40
Found it!

Go to: http://www.soens.de/

Select SOFTWARE

download cancount.exe

Enjoy!
DaveG
6th of April 2005 (Wed), 10:13
I downloaded it. How do you use it?
Oculus Sinister
7th of April 2005 (Thu), 03:55
Is there anything similar for use with the EOS 20D? Thanks:)
primoz
7th of April 2005 (Thu), 05:12
You can also open image in something like Exif reader (http://www.takenet.or.jp/~ryuuji/minisoft/exifread/english/ (http://www.takenet.or.jp/%7Eryuuji/minisoft/exifread/english/)) and search for following:

Unknown (0093)3,14 : 28,0,18,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0

Bold numbers are important one. 18 is current number of frame (it goes from 0 to 65536) and when it comes over 65536 it turns back to 0 while first number (right now 0 since this is from my brand new 1dmk2) increase to 1. So if you have 70.000 shots it should look ...,1,5000,...
Jon
7th of April 2005 (Thu), 07:58
I don't believe that retains the number of shutter actuations, at least on the 20D, and the numbers it produces are somewhat more cryptic than primoz reports. In the 20D, what I found was:

IMG_0001 (0093)3,16 : 32,6400,1,0,0,0,65535,65535,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0

IMG_0100 (0093)3,16 : 32,6400,100,0,0,0,65535,65535,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
(add 64 to second grouping as folder count increments)

IMG_0101 (0093)3,16 : 32,6464,101,0,0,0,65535,65535,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0

IMG_0200 (0093)3,16 : 32,6464,200,0,0,0,65535,65535,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
(add 64 to second grouping)

IMG_0201 (0093)3,16 : 32,6528,201,0,0,0,65535,65535,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0

IMG_0255 (0093)3,16 : 32,6528,255,0,0,0,65535,65535,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
(add 1 to second grouping, reset third grouping to 0; we deduce frame counter is an 8-bit value)

IMG_0256 (0093)3,16 : 32,6529,0,0,0,0,65535,65535,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0

IMG_0300 (0093)3,16 : 32,6529,44,0,0,0,65535,65535,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
(add 64 to second grouping as folder count increments)

IMG_0301 (0093)3,16 : 32,6593,45,0,0,0,65535,65535,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0

IMG_0400 (0093)3,16 : 32,6593,144,0,0,0,65535,65535,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
(add 64 to second grouping as folder count increments)

IMG_0401 (0093)3,16 : 32,6657,145,0,0,0,65535,65535,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0

IMG_0500 (0093)3,16 : 32,6657,244,0,0,0,65535,65535,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
(add 64 to second grouping as folder count increments)

IMG_0501 (0093)3,16 : 32,6721,245,0,0,0,65535,65535,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0

IMG_0511 (0093)3,16 : 32,6721,255,0,0,0,65535,65535,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
(add 1 to second grouping, reset third grouping to 0; we deduce frame counter is an 8-bit value)

IMG_0512 (0093)3,16 : 32,6722,0,0,0,0,65535,65535,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0

IMG_0526 (0093)3,16 : 32,6722,14,0,0,0,65535,65535,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
(no apparent reason for groupings 7 & 8 to change here)

IMG_0527 (0093)3,16 : 32,6722,15,0,0,0,3,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 as folder count increments

IMG_0600 (0093)3,16 : 32,6722,88,0,0,0,3,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
(add 64 to second grouping as folder count increments)

IMG_0601 (0093)3,16 : 32,6786,89,0,0,0,3,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0

IMG_0674 (0093)3,16 : 32,6786,162,0,0,0,3,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0

(3 shots, no card taken at this point; note, numbering does not reflect this)

IMG_0675 (0093)3,16 : 32,6786,163,0,0,0,3,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0

Note: the 20D starts a new folder every 100 frames. 100 decimal is 64 hex. This would explain adding 64 to group 2. But, at least on the 20D, the numbers are used to track the folder and picture number, not the shutter actuations. Would have been nice . . .
defordphoto
7th of April 2005 (Thu), 08:11
Is there anything similar for use with the EOS 20D? Thanks:)

No.
defordphoto
7th of April 2005 (Thu), 08:15
Is there anything similar for use with the EOS 20D? Thanks:)

I think you drag and drop a photo-file onto the cancount icon. It's been awhile...
primoz
7th of April 2005 (Thu), 10:57
That was for 1d, 1ds, 1dmk2 and 1dsmk2. I think 10d, 20d and 300d don't have this "feature", but I'm not 100% sure about this.
photomd
10th of April 2005 (Sun), 07:45
I think you drag and drop a photo-file onto the cancount icon. It's been awhile...
That's a cool utility. Wolfe camera in Atlanta couldn't seem to get an actuation count when I had it serviced. Anyway, to use it do this: file: open and open a RAW file. Batabing! There's your answer. Thanks!
steven
10th of April 2005 (Sun), 10:31
Something is not perfect in CanCount.
I was playing around with it looking at my pictures.
And to start with the Exposure# from CanCount matched the file number.
But then for no reason that is obvious yet the count from CanCount went back 3.
To clarify picture 1E3X3472.tif has an exposure# of 3472. The numbers match.
Then picture 1E3x3473.tif has an exposure# of 3470. Numbers don't match.
This 3 difference has continued to current pcitre 5594.

So I don't know what CanCount is using but it is certainly not 100%.
radar-eclipse
10th of April 2005 (Sun), 10:41
THere's this guy in Germany on ebay that sells a 2mb software deal for Mac or PC that gives you some extra menus along with the capture counter. I have been meaning to order it and just did.
It cost $10.99 US.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7505379132&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOTB:US:204
soupdragon
11th of April 2005 (Mon), 23:34
Well please mail it to me
radar-eclipse
12th of April 2005 (Tue), 07:27
I have thought about that before you responded as I was purchasing it. I could email it to whomever needed or wanted it. However, this guy developed something that is of value and it's only fair that users pay for it. I'm sorry, I just can't. It's not a lot of money. I use Mac and had a problem with his page download. He was really quick to resolve the issue and emailed it to me. The actually file is 1 MB.
steven
12th of April 2005 (Tue), 12:36
I do hope that http://www.soens.de/ and http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...E:B:EOTB:US:204 are the same person as the software appears to be the same.
radar-eclipse
13th of April 2005 (Wed), 21:05
It doesn't look to be the same person so much, but the software ID looks the same. The mac version wouldn't download. Somebody with a PC, download and see if it's free.
l bo
15th of November 2006 (Wed), 09:10
Any info to check shutter actuations on a 300D?

I have the file numbering system set to continuous and it shows 5604 but I don't know if that's correct. I check the exif info with ipanda? but it's not listed.

I am selling my camera on ebay and the question was asked.

Thanks.
Woolburr
15th of November 2006 (Wed), 09:13
Canon could tell you. But unless it is a 1D series body, there is no real way for the rest of us to do anything more than guess.