Need High Distrotion Fisheye.

[Persian-Rice]

I need some suggestions on a high distortion fisheye.
My main requirements are that it retain AF, not manditory but I would rather get AF, and it has to be very cheap.

Any suggestions?

[blue_max]

canal?

:lol:

If price is the overriding factor, then any that you see second hand would do. As you must be aware, Canon make one, but you would have to take what you could find second hand.

Good luck

Graham

[Persian-Rice]

I dont buy anyhting new anyway...........but for this, I just want it to be cheap.

[Jon]

Considering the DoF on a fisheye, forget the AF and consider the Russian one that's been talked about here. Best AF I see is the 15 mm Sigma at $450 (US) from B&H, and I'd hesitate to call that "very cheap".

[Persian-Rice]

To be honest, I want to pay in the one hundreds, not the four hundreds.............

[pcasciola]

8mm Peleng russian circular fisheye is only about $200 (manual aperture and focus though). Sigma 8mm circular fisheye is about $400 I think. That's about the most distortion on a fisheye I have ever seen. Actually some nice examples of F1 shots over on pbase with the Sigma version.

EDIT: I just realized I was off on the sigma 8mm price. It's actually closer to $600 new.

Here's a pbase link I mentioned, though, with some F1 shots: http://www.pbase.com/uli1/sigma

[ron chappel]

At the price you want to pay your only options are:

Zenitar 16mm f2.8 $150?
This one is manual focus but a reasonably decent lens

One of those add on fisheye converters.$50-70?
These have the benifit of retaining AF and when used on a zoom give a variable effect.Image quality is bad at the edges but ok in the center

[pcasciola]

One of those add on fisheye converters.$50-70?
These have the benifit of retaining AF and when used on a zoom give a variable effect.Image quality is bad at the edges but ok in the centerGood call. I forgot about those things. I bought a 58mm threaded fisheye adapters to try on my kit lens just for kicks. If I go all the way out to 18mm I get a completely circular image (from vignetting, not because it's 180 degree view). It's more distorted than any 15 or 16mm fisheye I've seen, and retains autofocus. For web resolution it's fine, but for prints it would be pretty bad, especially around the edges like you said.

I can post some examples later if you think this is something you might be interested in.

There always lens babies, too.

[Persian-Rice]

Phil please do post. I would be using them for some small prints though. I will google them too.

The zenitar doesnt really distort, or I would have gotten that. AF is not that big of an issue, I would be using the fisheye for arts purposes more then anything,, which I can MF.

[Persian-Rice]

BTW, I was reading that the Peleng has an issue of hittng the mirror. Is this an issue with the 10D or 1DMKII?

I might just save and buy that if I get desperate.

[pcasciola]

Interesting about the Peleng. Thanks for pointing that out. I was planning on getting that lens soon but I'll have to check first. Probably will be ok on the 20D since the deep EF-S's are ok. The 58mm threaded wide angle adapter is nowhere near as distorted as that, but for a $40 solution it's a pretty interesting toy.

Here are a few samples I just took with the wide angle adapter on the 18-55 EF-S lens. Of course I forgot to check ISO "AGAIN" so these are all ISO 1600.

18mm:
http://www.casciola.com/pics/wide_adapter_8971.jpg

30mm
http://www.casciola.com/pics/wide_adapter_8972.jpg

25mm
http://www.casciola.com/pics/wide_adapter_8975.jpg

[Persian-Rice]

That is more then sufficient, what brand is that? does it just thread to the filter threads?
I like the 30mm crop, Ill prolly get one for the 50 prime or the Tamron. Since I rather not buy one that is 77 mm, probably lots more expensive.

[pcasciola]

It says Bower Titanium Digital Super Wide 0.42x AF lens, and the seller listed it as Digital Optics .42x wide angle/macro adapter. It's actually 52mm thread, and came with the 58mm step ring. With the kit lens I can focus from less than 1" away.

Here's a link to the auction where I picked it up:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=30066&item=3863466202

And here's a picture of it on the kit lens.
http://www.casciola.com/pics/wide_adapter_8982.jpg

[Persian-Rice]

I have a combination of step up/down rings from 77-67 67-52 etc etc so I guess I can use this on a bunch of lenses, thanks for the heads up.

[ron chappel]

[QUOTE=pcasciola]........ Of course I forgot to check ISO "AGAIN" so these are all ISO 1600......[quote]/

Good to know i'm not the only one;) ;) :lol:

Nice examples there Phil,the bumbers of the car are right at the point where the image quality starts to drop away.

[flyfishnj]

No lens on the body with Saran Wrap ??? === Free

[Persian-Rice]

fkyfish, care to explain? I would imagine it would be somewhat impossible to focus, beside the fact that you will be getting a mishmash of light rays.