A challenge

[GyRob]

Can someone post a Sharp pic taken straight out of the 20d with no extra processing, only cropped for the forum , i havent had one yet, there close but not that great. my point is can it be done ?
Rob.

[PaulB]

Firstly define your terms:
how sharp is sharp?
what size crop?
what ISO?
what lens?
what in-camera parameters?

Secondly;
does it matter what the camera produces if the finished, ie. processed/manipulated, image is what the photographer is happy with?

[Hellashot]

There are auto-fix buttons in programs that would do the trick so that you wouldn't have much to do if you are worried about processing time.

[GyRob]

just iso 100 - any lens below £1500 100 percent crop as for how sharp, a photo that looks sharp and would not be said to be to soft by the pros in here any parameters. can it be done ? thats all im asking up to now im being told that software sorts it i know that and that was not the question.

[Harry Settle]

What, besides the 20D, are you using, that you are having sharpness problems. Give the kind experts here something to work with. Just because someone else can, or can't, take a sharp picture to show you, has nothing to do with your personal results.

[GyRob]

I did a test today using 50 f1.8 85 f1.8 17/40 f4L 300 is f4L all at f8 the shots were of a ruler the same size image in the viewfinder tripod mounted 400sec selftimer used on 300mm they were not as sharp as i would have hoped for yes PhotoShop put them right But i exspected better from the camera i used set 1 +1sharp +1 saturation 100iso i just wondered if it can be done .

[GyRob]

17/40 f6.3 125sec iso100 - a100percent crop.

[PaulB]

Seriously, go take some photos of something nice, interesting ,scenic, attractive, colourful. Something photogenic.....rulers are so boring!

[GyRob]

TRUE sharp ones straight from the 20d can be intresting though if its possible .

[wolf]

20D ~ Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 @ 57mm ~ ISO 100 ~ 1/250 ~ f13

While I was doing some stock photo shots with a light tent and strobes I shot this one of my cat wondering what I was doing. The only post processing done was to up the exposure a little as the camera was set for the exposure inside the light tent.

http://www.wolverineenterprises.com/photo_net/IMG_1815.jpg

100% crop
http://www.wolverineenterprises.com/photo_net/IMG_1815_crop.jpg

[GyRob]

so it can be done :) thank you, thats the sort of thing i was looking for what were your parameter settings for this shot as i think that could be my problem .
Rob.

[ron chappel]

I have my 300D set to it's sharpest,but after experimenting abit i found the pics STILL tend to need sharpening.
One thing that does make alot of difference to apparent sharpness is the contrast setting (!)
Try upping that ,but take notice to make sure you don't start blowing the highlights more often-i'm not sure yet how the in camera contrast setting effects that

Wolf's photo above looks good- mostly due to reasonably strong contrast (the flash in the eyes and elsewhere helps too,nice)
It's difficult to take much more from that example though because certain kinds of detail -such as hair- show up very strongly in digital images

[wolf]

.........what were your parameter settings for this shot as i think that could be my problem .

Parameter 2 all set to "0".

Image sharpness, contrast and saturation right out of the camera does vary depending on what lens you are using. I got rid of two lenses in the past month because of that reason (dull and unsharp without a lot post processing).

But 95% of the time you will still need to do some post processing of images from any DSLR.

[Chazs]

Can someone post a Sharp pic taken straight out of the 20d with no extra processing, only cropped for the forum , i havent had one yet, there close but not that great. my point is can it be done ?
Rob.

This is not the sharpest lens in the wood shed (28-85USM) but it's what I had at the moment.

original
http://home.wavecable.com/~stevensc/photos/ford03.jpg

100%crop
http://home.wavecable.com/~stevensc/photos/ford02.jpg

the full size
http://home.wavecable.com/~stevensc/photos/ford01.jpg

I KNOW a better lens will produce a sharper image, so I'm leery of even posting this.

[wolf]

Nothing wrong with that photo right out of the camera, that is very nice.

[GyRob]

Just a little crop no other work. close but still needs some work. 85mm f16 iso 400

eyes 100 percent crop . paremeters set 1 plus 1 sat plus 1 sharp. i just carn't seem to get what i want out of this 20d some are quite sharp and with the same settings on the 50mm or 17/40L, many seem hit or miss i use middle focus point, one shot, tripod, i always focus on the eyes camera beeps but still not to happy Must be Me:o

[Andy_T]

Looks fine to me!

Attractive girl, as well ... what more do you want :lol:

Best regards,
Andy

[GyRob]

a little more bite from the camera i know its almost there :)but its the almost bit that bother's me need to do more testing on a pretty girl ;)
Rob.