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Kauaicrazed
1st of April 2009 (Wed), 14:36
Like 1/4000 or above? I am having issues with focus. So I thought my shutter speed was too slow so I adjusted my ISO and my shutter speed and it looks even worse. Can high shutter speeds also give camera shake?

ETA: Samples

Here are samples...they are terrible. These are both sooc at 100%. Morning sun under shade. Included the focus points which weren't exactly on his eyes but not even where the focus was targeted is in focus? Just FYI...in these two photos he was not moving much. Is it the fstop? Is it me or what? TIA!

#1 1/5000 sec, f/1.8, ISO 250, 50 mm
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i10/alohamommy/IMG_9354.jpghttp://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i10/alohamommy/Picture4.jpg


#2 1/5000 sec, f/1.8, ISO 250, 50mm
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i10/alohamommy/IMG_9356.jpg http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i10/alohamommy/Picture5.jpg

400dabuser
1st of April 2009 (Wed), 14:51
Yeah, of course, just because it is a fast shutter speed, doesn't mean it is impervious to camera shake

nicksan
1st of April 2009 (Wed), 16:06
Describe what your shooting condition was like.

Like 1/4000 or above? I am having issues with focus. So I thought my shutter speed was too slow so I adjusted my ISO and my shutter speed and it looks even worse. Can high shutter speeds also give camera shake?

chauncey
1st of April 2009 (Wed), 16:25
Camera shake @ 1/4000 is unlikely as it is usually prevalent at a much slower SS.
Give us a 100% crop of an example to help us Dx your difficulty.

philwillmedia
1st of April 2009 (Wed), 17:19
Camera shake would need to be REALLY REALLY bad at 1/4000th sec to be noticable.
I would suggest that it is focusing issues.
need to see an image to give better opinion.

Kauaicrazed
1st of April 2009 (Wed), 18:30
Thanks everyone...I updated my org post to include samples. Can anyone help me here?

MarineManiac
1st of April 2009 (Wed), 18:41
those are all missed focus. or you focused and recomposed, using that shallow of DOF is difficult and was lost afterwords.

chauncey
1st of April 2009 (Wed), 18:45
In the 2nd one your background is clear.
Does this happen with other glass"

tmwag
1st of April 2009 (Wed), 18:50
There's no reason I can think of for using 1/5000 for still shots. Problem is elseware

kauffman v36
1st of April 2009 (Wed), 19:12
i highly doubt camera shake is your problem at 1/4000. you must be moving pretty darn fast.

hypertech
1st of April 2009 (Wed), 19:17
What AF mode are you using? Is it single shot? IF you have it on servo and those trees were blowing in the wind, that might be why it grabbed the background.

Kauaicrazed
1st of April 2009 (Wed), 19:21
In the 2nd one your background is clear.
Does this happen with other glass"

I have only been using my 50mm lately so I don't know. Could it be my lens? I have bumped it a few times and dropped it in the sand. :oops:

Kauaicrazed
1st of April 2009 (Wed), 19:21
those are all missed focus. or you focused and recomposed, using that shallow of DOF is difficult and was lost afterwords.

Hmmm...That's what I originally thought that it could have been due to the shallow DOF but this bad?

Kauaicrazed
1st of April 2009 (Wed), 19:22
What AF mode are you using? Is it single shot? IF you have it on servo and those trees were blowing in the wind, that might be why it grabbed the background.

I was on manual mode. Single shot.

Kauaicrazed
1st of April 2009 (Wed), 19:22
i highly doubt camera shake is your problem at 1/4000. you must be moving pretty darn fast.

Wasn't moving at all.

Kauaicrazed
1st of April 2009 (Wed), 19:23
There's no reason I can think of for using 1/5000 for still shots. Problem is elseware

Where? What am I doing?

chauncey
1st of April 2009 (Wed), 19:23
check your other glass, is this a new problem?

tonylong
1st of April 2009 (Wed), 19:25
I have only been using my 50mm lately so I don't know. Could it be my lens? I have bumped it a few times and dropped it in the sand. :oops:

In the first one, it's close but you are shooting with a handicap: the 50 f/1.8 is quite soft at f/1.8. Try shooting at, say, f/2 or f/2.8 and you may get a lot more than you realize, but still be able to get the "soft background" effect if you are close enough to your subject and are both far enough from the background.

The second shot just went way off target. Without some more experimentation, you won't know what went wrong. With shooting with wide apertures, you want to keep a close look in the viewfinder, but this goes beyond some shift at f/1.8 -- the camera focus went way off into the backgroud. You just missed that when you took the shot.

Kauaicrazed
1st of April 2009 (Wed), 19:39
In the 2nd one your background is clear.
Does this happen with other glass"

I just remembered I have used other lenses. DUH! My macro and 28-105 (for candids). I didn't noticed any issues this bad.

nuffi
1st of April 2009 (Wed), 19:40
This isn't camera shake at all. It is possible that the shocks your lens has been subjected to has affected it's focussing.

Have you tried to see what happens when you focus manually? (Seems that people with these new fangled digital things forget that once upon a time lenses had to be told where to focus!)


Double check the lens' focusing by following this guide: http://photo.net/learn/focustest/

Kauaicrazed
1st of April 2009 (Wed), 19:41
Thanks everyone.
In the first one, it's close but you are shooting with a handicap: the 50 f/1.8 is quite soft at f/1.8. Try shooting at, say, f/2 or f/2.8 and you may get a lot more than you realize, but still be able to get the "soft background" effect if you are close enough to your subject and are both far enough from the background.

The second shot just went way off target. Without some more experimentation, you won't know what went wrong. With shooting with wide apertures, you want to keep a close look in the viewfinder, but this goes beyond some shift at f/1.8 -- the camera focus went way off into the backgroud. You just missed that when you took the shot.

I think this is a lot of the issue. I rarely shoot at f/1.8. I'll have to do some more experimenting and see.

thanks everyone!

philwillmedia
2nd of April 2009 (Thu), 01:19
That's definitely focusing issues. Not camera shake.

Kauaicrazed
2nd of April 2009 (Thu), 11:59
This isn't camera shake at all. It is possible that the shocks your lens has been subjected to has affected it's focussing.

Have you tried to see what happens when you focus manually? (Seems that people with these new fangled digital things forget that once upon a time lenses had to be told where to focus!)


Double check the lens' focusing by following this guide: http://photo.net/learn/focustest/

Nuffi...thanks for this link. I did the test and I think something is wrong with my camera. I will post in a separate thread.

Wilt
2nd of April 2009 (Thu), 16:35
Your problem was FOCUS!!! Look at the limb to the subject's left, seen in #2 1/5000 sec, f/1.8, ISO 250, 50mm

chauncey
2nd of April 2009 (Thu), 17:05
Wilt and I have pointed to the background being in focus in the 2nd image, points to user error, no biggie. ;)

Kauaicrazed
2nd of April 2009 (Thu), 17:48
I did a test on the focus with 3 diff lenses posted on another thread....I am hoping it's the camera not user error. I just can't see my focus target being completely off like that. I took my camera in to Canon today for a checkup. LOL!

Lojt
3rd of April 2009 (Fri), 12:20
Are you using the 50mm 1.8 lens? If so, step down a bit to 2.0 or 2.2, it can be a bit soft on 1.8. And set your camera to center point AF only.