Photoshop CS not recognizing XT raw files

[Duncreavy]

Has anyone had this problem? I went back to my retailer and he tried my card on his laptop and the RAW files wouldn't open. Put my card in a 300d and took a picture. That image would open on his computer and mine. Put my card in another 350D, took a picture and it still wouldn't open in PS CS. His conclusion was that either Adobe or Canon hadn't linked the 350D with Photoshop CS yet. Any ideas? I'll check the Adobe site but I haven't come across anyone complaining about this. Is it just me? Thanks.

[Kentish]

I have read (and expierienced) that the 350D/XT raw files are different slightly from previous Canon raw, and as such dont allow them to be viewed/work with Adobe yet.

[Jackal]

Adobe says they'll release an update/plugin in May to support the XT's CR2 files.

[d123]

From the Adobe support page
http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx?128@1019.erNGdutXbnp.2@.3bb95ccd

[jimsolt]

The caveat with the new plugin for Rebel XT and a few other cameras is that it is a beta release and will be supported ONLY by CS2 and PS Elements 3. If you have other versions it won't work. The folks at Adobe know about profits also.

They are pushing the Digital negative idea -- about which I know nothing.

Jim

[Jackal]

Wait..............

So wtf? Only CS2 will support my Rebel XT?!

[tim]

The latest version of RawShooter supports the 350D, i'd suggest using that in the meantime. It's free.

[Jackal]

Well, I really do love how I could open raw files with CS, do what i want with them, and just keep editing in Photoshop. Just one big step and no annoying other steps ya know?

I've opened my friend's raw files (on the 300D so it does work with CS) and being able to do this in photoshop is so nifty.

What's the difference between the Rawshooters trial version and the version you buy? And is it even worth getting if you already have the software that came with the camera?

[glangston]

Interesting that the RAW files have different file designations.

.CR2 for the 20D
.CRW for the Digital Rebel 300D D30 D60 and EOS 10D
.TIF for the EOS 1D and 1Ds.

I just downloaded the free Camera Raw 2.4 plug-in for Mac versions. I can't see why they won't put out a new plug-in that will handle the 350D file version if it's different.

BTW I have Photoshop CS or 8

Edit..I believe your files on the 350D will be .CR2 and so this Camera Raw Plug-in 2.4 from Adobe should do the trick if you're using CS (or Photoshop 8)

[Jackal]

My 350D's RAW extensions are .CR2

Are you saying you can open .CR2 files in PS? Maybe I can get that plugin and my raw files will also work?

I'm going to try right now.

[defordphoto]

XT, 20D, 1DMKII, 1DsMKII are all CR2.

[glangston]

Another board group was discussing this and they've yet to conclude it will work for the 350D but the files are indeed .CR2 on both the 20D and the 350D and Adobe states that it supports the 20D with the new plug-in.

Below is a free RAW program you might check out. A 350D owner said it was better than Adobe's, so at least it's a work-around as is the EOS Viewer Utility, which you have to access with a card reader. EOS Viewer Utility will not download RAW files straight from the camera.

http://www.pixmantec.com/index2.html

[tim]

Jackal: there is no version you buy yet.

[jimsolt]

Edit..I believe your files on the 350D will be .CR2 and so this Camera Raw Plug-in 2.4 from Adobe should do the trick if you're using CS (or Photoshop :cool:

You can believe what you want, but the guy who writes the ACR for Adobe says it won't.
He also says the beta version of ACR 3.01 will work only with CS2 and PSE 3.
I am of the opinion if anyone knows, it would be him.
Adobe has forums that discuss this at length. You might try there for more information.

Jim

[Jackal]

Damn...

Doesn't work. It tells me it's "not the right kind of document." Somehow I saw that coming from a mile away.

[pcasciola]

You can believe what you want, but the guy who writes the ACR for Adobe says it won't.
He also says the beta version of ACR 3.01 will work only with CS2 and PSE 3.
I am of the opinion if anyone knows, it would be him.
Adobe has forums that discuss this at length. You might try there for more information.

JimTrue, but he also says users of CS will have a way of converting XT RAWs to DNG files using Adobe's DNG Converter 3.1, and then opening the DNG files from CS:

"Knoll also points out that users of the current version of Photoshop CS and ACR 2.4 will have an option for opening D2X and 350D/Rebel XT raw files. Knoll says that version 3.1 of the free Adobe DNG Converter (which we presume will be available concurrent with ACR 3.1) will be able to convert D2X and 350D/Rebel XT raw files to DNG format, and you will then be able to open and convert them to RGB images with ACR 2.4 running in Photoshop CS."

Full article here:
http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-6466-7729

[defordphoto]

I'm surprised someone hasn't hacked it yet...

[jimsolt]

True, but he also says users of CS will have a way of converting XT RAWs to DNG files using Adobe's DNG Converter 3.1, and then opening the DNG files from CS:

"Knoll also points out that users of the current version of Photoshop CS and ACR 2.4 will have an option for opening D2X and 350D/Rebel XT raw files. Knoll says that version 3.1 of the free Adobe DNG Converter (which we presume will be available concurrent with ACR 3.1) will be able to convert D2X and 350D/Rebel XT raw files to DNG format, and you will then be able to open and convert them to RGB images with ACR 2.4 running in Photoshop CS."

Full article here:
http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-6466-7729

Yeah, as I mentioned in my earlier post, they seem to be pushing that. Do you know anything about it -- DNG? Pros/Cons? I gather Adobe sees that as a way to "standardize" the RAW conversion from all these different proprietary files.

As to the suggestion someone made about hacking, Mr. Knoll said early on that the differences in the files was too significant to make a "hack" feasible.

Jim

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[glangston]

You can believe what you want, but the guy who writes the ACR for Adobe says it won't.
He also says the beta version of ACR 3.01 will work only with CS2 and PSE 3.
I am of the opinion if anyone knows, it would be him.
Adobe has forums that discuss this at length. You might try there for more information.

Jim

You're absolutely correct. XT owners seem to be destined to buy CS2 or use the Digital Negative work around.

[pcasciola]

Yeah, as I mentioned in my earlier post, they seem to be pushing that. Do you know anything about it -- DNG? Pros/Cons? I gather Adobe sees that as a way to "standardize" the RAW conversion from all these different proprietary files.

As to the suggestion someone made about hacking, Mr. Knoll said early on that the differences in the files was too significant to make a "hack" feasible.

Jim

I'm clueless about DNG as well, but I have high hopes. I'm pretty sick of 20-30Mb working files, but who knows if DNG will even help.

[dedalus-6]

U couldt even convert RAW from 350D to DNG anyway................

[puttick]

I've just bought a 350d (upgraded from 300d) but don't in any case use PS CS as I "only" have PS7. I haven't done much work in RAW but plan to with this new camera.

Have I missed something here? Canon provide DPP 1.6.1 free - why wouldn't you use that to convert your RAW files?

I also have BreezeBrowser (v2.11, not BBPro) and that won't yet convert 350d Raw files, but v2.12 is coming.

I object to paying £££ for software for just this sort of obsolescence. Surely there is a satisfactory everyday answer, and I suspect DPP is it, but it hasn't been mentioned in this thread yet.

Nigel

[jimsolt]

I've just bought a 350d (upgraded from 300d) but don't in any case use PS CS as I "only" have PS7. I haven't done much work in RAW but plan to with this new camera.

Have I missed something here? Canon provide DPP 1.6.1 free - why wouldn't you use that to convert your RAW files?

I also have BreezeBrowser (v2.11, not BBPro) and that won't yet convert 350d Raw files, but v2.12 is coming.

I object to paying £££ for software for just this sort of obsolescence. Surely there is a satisfactory everyday answer, and I suspect DPP is it, but it hasn't been mentioned in this thread yet.

Nigel

DPP included with the Rebel XT will in fact support the RAW format. It that meets your needs, you have no problem. If you want to use Photoshop, a plugin to be released in May will support the XT and some other newer cameras in CS2 and Elements 3 only. Of course you can convert the RAW files in DPP and then do further editing in Photoshop as usual.
Jim