Canon 70-200mm with extenders

[JennB]

I am trying to decide whether or not to get the Sigma 1.4x TC. I will be taking photos of my kids' soccer games. Just don't want to get the TC and get low quality shots. Anybody here shoot with the 70-200 w/1.4x TC? Please...pretty please post some pics!:)

Thanks!

[ed rader]

with the kenko pro 1.4 TC.

ed rader

http://www.fototime.com/4C496580367E0F7/orig.jpg

http://www.fototime.com/E2FDD33BF8B5439/orig.jpg

[JennB]

with the kenko pro 1.4 TC.

ed rader

Wow, great shots! Were these taken with the Sigma or Canon? And is the Kenko pro 1.4 TC better than the Sigma TC?

Thanks!

[JBF]

Great pic of the lion. Have you tried the kenko 2X or 3X?

[ed rader]

Wow, great shots! Were these taken with the Sigma or Canon? And is the Kenko pro 1.4 TC better than the Sigma TC?

Thanks!

thanx Jenn...from what i've read the kenko is the best of the three and i notice very little image degradation when using it with my canon 70-200L f4.

ed rader

http://www.fototime.com/ABB74176DBEF269/orig.jpg

[ed rader]

Great pic of the lion. Have you tried the kenko 2X or 3X?

JBF -- no i haven't. from what i have read the IQ probably would not be acceptable to me.

since i use my 70-200L fully extended with TC i would sure like to get my hands on the canon 300mm IS f4 :D .

ed rader

[FScott]

Try this:

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=84903

Canon 70-200 f4L with tamron 1.4x TC. Sometimes I'm happy with the tamron TC and sometimes not. Can't quite get it to produce consistent results. Or it might be me...

-- Scott.

[Frank M.]

70-200 + 1.4 teleconverter

[dito]

Canon 1DMKII w/ Canon 70-200 2.8 non IS with Canon 1.4tc (mark I), 320 F9 ISO250 265mm
original image reduce to 800 wide
http://www.gotbluemilk.com/HT4U0062crop.jpg

100% crop
http://www.gotbluemilk.com/HT4U0062crop100.jpg

As stated before the 1.4 is really good and hard to see any degradation. Unlike the 1.4, the 2.0tc is pretty easy to see flaws in your images, and I rarley use it. I just keep it in the bag for the "if I only had a longer reach" emergencies...

[JennB]

http://www.fototime.com/ABB74176DBEF269/orig.jpg

Another great shot, Ed!:) Very sharp pic with the combo...I guess I better check out the Kenko 1.4x TC!:mrgreen:

[JennB]

Try this:

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=84903

Canon 70-200 f4L with tamron 1.4x TC. Sometimes I'm happy with the tamron TC and sometimes not. Can't quite get it to produce consistent results. Or it might be me...

-- Scott.

Great shots, Scott!:) Why did you choose the Tamron over the Canon, Sigma, or Kenko? Do you think the Tamron is just as good optically as the other brands or not?

Thanks!

[JennB]

70-200 + 1.4 teleconverter

Hi, Frank! I can't see the photo you've posted...or was there one?:(

[JennB]

As stated before the 1.4 is really good and hard to see any degradation. Unlike the 1.4, the 2.0tc is pretty easy to see flaws in your images, and I rarley use it. I just keep it in the bag for the "if I only had a longer reach" emergencies...

You're right, Dito! I hardly see any degradation at all, if any. I've heard others say that they weren't as satisfied with the 2x TC as they were with the 1.4x.

You all have provided me with some very good shots to help with my decision. I'm off to check out some 1.4x TC at B&H!:D

[IanD]

Canon 70-200 f/2.8 IS + Canon TC 1.4 Shot wide open (f/4)

http://www.pbase.com/giant001/image/37648662.jpg

[JennB]

Canon 70-200 f/2.8 IS + Canon TC 1.4 Shot wide open (f/4)

http://www.pbase.com/giant001/image/37648662.jpg

Hi, Ian! Yet another convincing shot for me...thank you!:) There is no turning back now...gotta have a 1.4x TC!:lol:

[Scuff]

Since you asked..... Canon 70-200L IS with Canon 1.4 converter.

Canon EOS 20D (http://www.pbase.com/cameras/canon/eos_20d)1/1600s f/5.6 at 280mm iso200

http://mk29.image.pbase.com/v3/83/482183/1/45179018.rsHurricanes.jpg

[In2Photos]

Great thread and nice pics. I will be adding a link to this thread in the sample lens pic archive.

[FScott]

Great shots, Scott!:) Why did you choose the Tamron over the Canon, Sigma, or Kenko? Do you think the Tamron is just as good optically as the other brands or not?

Thanks!

Well, that's a good question. I bought it because I didn't have much budget left at the time, but I needed the extra reach for a specific project. I got it because this review:

http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/reviews/tcs.html

said that the center sharpness was comparable to the Canon 1.4 although it was softer at the edges.

For me it sometimes works well, but at other times it seems to have trouble focusing and loses some contrast.

These days I tend to avoid using it at all. Maybe someday I'll try the Canon and see if there is a big difference.

-- Scott.

[JennB]

Since you asked..... Canon 70-200L IS with Canon 1.4 converter.

Canon EOS 20D (http://www.pbase.com/cameras/canon/eos_20d)1/1600s f/5.6 at 280mm iso200

http://mk29.image.pbase.com/v3/83/482183/1/45179018.rsHurricanes.jpg

Fantastic shot, Scuff!:) The image is quite sharp with the 1.4x TC. Can't go wrong with this combo.:D Of course the person behind the camera helps a lot, too.;)

[JennB]

Great thread and nice pics. I will be adding a link to this thread in the sample lens pic archive.

Thank you for doing that, Mike! I'm sure this thread will help somebody else make their decision.:D

[dougsmit]

Example 70-200 f/4L with 1.4x Tamron (cheap model):
http://www.pbase.com/dougsmit/image/56607096.jpg

For comparison, about the same distance with the same lens but without the converter (cropped more to make it up):
http://www.pbase.com/dougsmit/image/56279248.jpg

Obviously, lighting was different but I think this shows that you lose some sharpness and gain something from not having to enlarge the grain/noise. Overall, is it a profit? I think so but it is not a lot.

[JennB]

Well, that's a good question. I bought it because I didn't have much budget left at the time, but I needed the extra reach for a specific project. I got it because this review:

http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/reviews/tcs.html

said that the center sharpness was comparable to the Canon 1.4 although it was softer at the edges.

For me it sometimes works well, but at other times it seems to have trouble focusing and loses some contrast.

These days I tend to avoid using it at all. Maybe someday I'll try the Canon and see if there is a big difference.

-- Scott.

Thanks, Scott! I really appreciate the review. Hopefully someday, I'll be getting the Canon 70-200 with the 1.4x TC. For now, I'll stick with the Sigma brand while I'm learning and budget is tight.:)

[JennB]

Example 70-200 f/4L with 1.4x Tamron (cheap model):...

For comparison, about the same distance with the same lens but without the converter (cropped more to make it up):...

Obviously, lighting was different but I think this shows that you lose some sharpness and gain something from not having to enlarge the grain/noise. Overall, is it a profit? I think so but it is not a lot.

Thanks for the comparison, Doug!:) Like I've said before, the loss of sharpness is not at all noticeable to me. I'm sure some of you would disagree because you have a better eye. It's so obvious I'm a beginner!!!:lol:

[Jay12329]

I've jsut ordered a sigma 2x to go with my 70-200 f2.8
After reading this im starting to think i should have added the £100 to go towards a 100-400 f4-5.6.
Are 2x TEs realy that bad?
J

[GyRob]

I've jsut ordered a sigma 2x to go with my 70-200 f2.8
After reading this im starting to think i should have added the £100 to go towards a 100-400 f4-5.6.
Are 2x TEs realy that bad?
J
from what iv read 2x's work ok with something like the 300f2.8 or 400f2.8 most other lense's dont give good enough results but thats depends on what you call good enough .
Rob.

[InfamousDX]

thanx Jenn...from what i've read the kenko is the best of the three and i notice very little image degradation when using it with my canon 70-200L f4.

ed rader

http://www.fototime.com/ABB74176DBEF269/orig.jpg
That is AMAZINGLY sharp!! Maybe there's hope for my F4L with the Kenko TC after all.

[Scuff]

Here are a couple more I have found.......

Canon EOS 20D (http://www.pbase.com/cameras/canon/eos_20d) ,70-200 f2.8L is + 1.4 converter


http://mk29.image.pbase.com/v3/83/482183/1/45116688.rsFalcon.jpg

Canon EOS 20D (http://www.pbase.com/cameras/canon/eos_20d) ,70-200 f2.8L is + 1.4 converter

http://mk23.image.pbase.com/v3/83/482183/1/45116687.rsOwl.jpg

[JennB]

Here are a couple more I have found.......

Canon EOS 20D (http://www.pbase.com/cameras/canon/eos_20d) ,70-200 f2.8L is + 1.4 converter


http://mk29.image.pbase.com/v3/83/482183/1/45116688.rsFalcon.jpg

Canon EOS 20D (http://www.pbase.com/cameras/canon/eos_20d) ,70-200 f2.8L is + 1.4 converter

http://mk23.image.pbase.com/v3/83/482183/1/45116687.rsOwl.jpg

Those are some truly awesome shots, Scuff!:) Can't wait until my 1.4x TC gets here!

[tdaugharty]

Well I gave in and bought the Canon instead .... Took me a good 2 hours to hit the submit button for the Canon but in the end I replaced MOST all of the non-canon lenses with L's so I'd might as well buy a canon TC too ;)

Can't wait to try it out.

[JennB]

Well I gave in and bought the Canon instead .... Took me a good 2 hours to hit the submit button for the Canon but in the end I replaced MOST all of the non-canon lenses with L's so I'd might as well buy a canon TC too ;)

Can't wait to try it out.

Congrats and enjoy your new purchase!:) Make sure you post here some pics you shot with your 70-200mm IS and 1.4x TC.:cool:

[JennB]

That is AMAZINGLY sharp!! Maybe there's hope for my F4L with the Kenko TC after all.

Don't sell your 70-200...just get the TC!:lol:

[SLED-WERX Racing]

thanx Jenn...from what i've read the kenko is the best of the three and i notice very little image degradation when using it with my canon 70-200L f4.

ed rader

http://www.fototime.com/ABB74176DBEF269/orig.jpg

Bizarre !! what lens, what settings??
thanks

[mij]

This has been processed a little (curves, resized, and some usm) but was taken hand held at 230mm with a Canon 70-200/2.8L (non-IS) and Keno Pro DG 1.4x at 1/160th, f/8, ISO 400.

http://jotbin.com/files/ph/20070402/img_4529f.jpg

Not the best composition but I was mainly out testing my new lens and extender.

Michael.

[angryhampster]

Bizarre !! what lens, what settings??
thanks



70-200 f/4L with kenko 1.4x TC, wide open at f/5.6 at 280mm from the EXIF data and his post ;)

[Dunlop]

XTi, 70-200 F/4 L IS, Kenko 1.4. 280mm, 1/250, F/5.6, ISO 200
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/205/451485077_83b7750295_o.jpg

[Indecent Exposure]

Great thread. And it convinced me to hit the button on the Canon 1.4.

(I realize the Kenko is an amazing product, but I loves me some white paint)

[Fabrian]

Does the Kenko/Tokina 1.4 Pro report the correct info to the camera? I believe it was Ed who supplied this link and I'm thinking of purchasing it. Plus, not completely sure how many, or what lenses this TC will work with. I know the Canon TC is much more limited to the lenses it's compatible with.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200106778603&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fse arch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26satitle%3D200106778603%26f vi%3D1

[nicksan]

70-200 f2.8IS with Canon 1.4x TC MKII.

http://nicksan.zenfolio.com/img/p192387181-4.jpg

http://nicksan.zenfolio.com/img/p530736339-4.jpg

http://nicksan.zenfolio.com/img/p411124011-4.jpg

http://nicksan.zenfolio.com/img/p279927375-4.jpg

[mij]

Does the Kenko/Tokina 1.4 Pro report the correct info to the camera?

Yes it does with ten pin lenses. i.e. those lenses with which the Canon Extender or Sigma Teleconvertor are compatible.

It will also work with incompatible lenses, that have seven pins, but does not report its presence with those.

Michael.

[JC4]

A few from the Zoo, with my 70-200 + 1.4x. Minor level adjustments and cropping in Lightroom.

ISO 200 - 280mm - f/7.1 - 1/320
http://lh6.google.com/image/JCaputo4/RkYY0bPulrI/AAAAAAAABCw/EOEZPQNrOB8/s800/IMG_6076-2.jpg

ISO 400 - 98mm - f/5.0 - 1/60
http://lh5.google.com/image/JCaputo4/Rjfb17PulKI/AAAAAAAAA8w/iYlCKrM5RjE/s800/IMG_5989.jpg

ISO 200 - 280mm - f/5.6 - 1/250
http://lh5.google.com/image/JCaputo4/RjfcK7PuleI/AAAAAAAAA_Q/P3gAh8ILcKY/s800/IMG_6288.jpg

[canadianbacon52]

And for a huge bump....

While it seems that 1.4TC's generally preserve quality pretty well, and 2xTC's are pretty poor (although no one posted images with this - could anyone do this?), has anyone tried stacking two 1.4TC's for an effective 1.96TC. Is the quality better/worse/same than a 2xTC? Thanks!

[In2Photos]

Here is one from today with the 70-200 f/4 (Non-IS) and Tamron 1.4x TC.

Man, I am loving this lens!

Only PP was slight Highlight recovery, bump in shadows, and very slight bump in curves (all in Lightroom), then USM of 100/.5/3.

http://www.pbase.com/image/81024395.jpg

[ShotByTom]

The AF works for the full range of 70-200 with the 1.4x, right? Is this also true for the 2x tc's, does the AF work well?

[canadianbacon52]

The AF will work with a 2x TC on a 2.8 lens, but not a f/4 lens. However, if the TC does not report to the camera, then the camera will still be able to use the autofocus, but it won't work very well since the lens will be at f/8. There's a reason that Canon made the autofocus limit 5.6...

[rickbrad]

Changed the neighbor's cat for this Heron I got out in my from yard about a month ago. This is with my 70-200 f/2.8 [280mm @f/4, 1/5000s and ISO 400. Should have cranked the iso down to get a more sharp image, but I am still learning by and large. I would like to blame my IQ on a soft copy of the lens, but I have tested it on a tripod and that is not it. It is me!

http://www.photodump.com/direct/rickbrad/IMG_7641_edited-2.jpg

[Dorman]

Mike, that parrot photo is just awesome. I definitely want to pick up a TC for my 70-200!

[In2Photos]

Mike, that parrot photo is just awesome. I definitely want to pick up a TC for my 70-200!
Thanks Brad. Glad you liked it. I am also glad that I didn't get rid of it. :lol:

[grimreaper]

nice shots in here ,

[In2Photos]

Here are a couple more with the f/4 non-IS and Tamron TC.

http://www.pbase.com/madawson/image/81335669.jpg

Even 1/800 couldn't stop this guy:

http://www.pbase.com/madawson/image/81023678.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/madawson/image/81335664.jpg

[Dazza-OZ]

The AF will work with a 2x TC on a 2.8 lens, but not a f/4 lens. However, if the TC does not report to the camera, then the camera will still be able to use the autofocus, but it won't work very well since the lens will be at f/8. There's a reason that Canon made the autofocus limit 5.6...

What about the 1.4 TC? Will AF work with that on the f/4? I'm assuming yes since I would have f/5.6, but I want to make sure :) If yes, will the AF and f/stop communication w/ the camera work with any brand TC or just some?

[grimreaper]

Here are a couple more with the f/4 non-IS and Tamron TC.

http://www.pbase.com/madawson/image/81335669.jpg

Even 1/800 couldn't stop this guy:

http://www.pbase.com/madawson/image/81023678.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/madawson/image/81335664.jpg



That first pic is great,

[minhi]

What about the 1.4 TC? Will AF work with that on the f/4? I'm assuming yes since I would have f/5.6, but I want to make sure :) If yes, will the AF and f/stop communication w/ the camera work with any brand TC or just some?

yes, the 1.4 + an f/4 lens will give you f5.6 and maintain AF on all the canon bodies.

just to make it more confusing i believe on the 1d/1ds (and only those) the 2x will maintain AF even with an f/4 lens

[ramblingman]

Cool shots here. Will the Kenko 1.4 work on lenses under 100 or a zoom lens like the ones in my sig?

[In2Photos]

Here is one from today with the 70-200 f/4 (Non-IS) and Tamron 1.4x TC.

Man, I am loving this lens!

Only PP was slight Highlight recovery, bump in shadows, and very slight bump in curves (all in Lightroom), then USM of 100/.5/3.

http://www.pbase.com/image/81024395.jpg

Here are a couple more with the f/4 non-IS and Tamron TC.

http://www.pbase.com/madawson/image/81335669.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/madawson/image/81335664.jpg


Here are the 100% crops from these shots:

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=188469&d=1184206954

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=188471&d=1184207051

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=188468&d=1184206954

[In2Photos]

Cool shots here. Will the Kenko 1.4 work on lenses under 100 or a zoom lens like the ones in my sig?
It would work fine with your 85, I wouldn't use it on the kit lens and I wouldn't use it on your Tamron zoom (would make it too slow, and probably would have a tough time with AF).

[ramblingman]

It would work fine with your 85, I wouldn't use it on the kit lens and I wouldn't use it on your Tamron zoom (would make it too slow, and probably would have a tough time with AF).

Thanks, I want to get it for use with some extension tubes and my 85 for some macro play. Then I eventually want to get the 100-400 Canon or the 70-200 USM IS Canon. Though, If I could use it with my Tamron, perhaps in Manual Focus, then at least I know it would be usable in a pinch.

[hjohnson]

Here's a shot I got a few days ago with my 70-200 F/4L IS and Canon 1.4x TC. Only PP done is the default processing in LightRoom for converting between RAW and JPEG.

[Dazza-OZ]

I tried out this combination last weekend at the Zoo, and the AF was terrible. I'd say 4 out of 5 shots were not focused correctly. Has anyone else had this much trouble with AF when paired with the Kenko 1.4?

[In2Photos]

I tried out this combination last weekend at the Zoo, and the AF was terrible. I'd say 4 out of 5 shots were not focused correctly. Has anyone else had this much trouble with AF when paired with the Kenko 1.4?
I don't have the Kenko but after using my Tamron during sports I found that I get more keepers without the TC than with. But the keepers that I do get with the TC are better than the ones without, because I get better background seperation and don't have to crop as much. I only use the TC when the light is very good.

[In2Photos]

A couple from my first air show this past weekend.

XT, 70-200 f/4 L, and Tamron 1.4x TC.

http://www.pbase.com/madawson/image/86900371.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/madawson/image/86938155.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/madawson/image/86938170.jpg

[ned1]

Hi
Been looking at long lens and it seems that the 70-200 L IS is my best bet for me, (all things considered) with a Kenko Pro 300 1.4x, as most people rate this, but not sure what "DG" means or are they all DG !!

Thanks
Ned :oops:

[1999cbm]

70-200mm 2.8L IS w/ Canon 1.4 TC

http://kirby.zenfolio.com/img/v2/p580658525-4.jpg

[pourmeaguinness]

BIG bump, I cant wait till my Kenko 1.4 pro 300, and 70-200 2.8 IS arrive, so I can add here.

[Nikolas]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b160/Nikolaos/Airshow%202007/_MG_2049-1.jpg

[Nikolas]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b160/Nikolaos/Airshow%202007/_MG_2000.jpg

[i_am_hydrogen]

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/342/blueangels2to5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[ARP]

Was thinking about purchasing a 70-200 f/2.8 L, and Canon 1.4x TC which would be primarily used for motorsport, would this combination be ok for that type of application? Are there any photos out there that could be posted to have a look at? Have had a look at this thread and the air show pics look amazing. If there are any photos with the 2x TC I would be interested to see them also, as I was considering purchasing a 2x TC as well. Any other options / opinions would be appreciated.

[BluewookieJim]

Here are a few samples I have using my 70-200mm F/2.8L (non-IS) along with the Tamron 1.4 Pro TC.

I've gotten some really good results with this combination, but I've also had a few times where I had almost no keepers. I'm not sure if it technique or equipment yet, but I'm leaning towards faulty technique.

Handheld, low light conditions, just before sundown. Approx 80-100ft from subject.
http://photos.kodanja.net/img/v1/p586305818-4.jpg

Handheld, midafternoon.
http://photos.kodanja.net/img/v1/p579714330-4.jpg

[Treat me like a tourist]

This combination never ceases to amaze me. 70-200F4 with Canon1.4xMkII

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3179/2979722268_594e54dca4_b.jpg

[SwiftFootTim]

Dang, those are some big deer. Are they Mules? Can't decide between a Canon 1.4 TC or a 300 f/4 L IS. For the price difference I'm thinking the TC would get me by.

[Treat me like a tourist]

They are red dear- quite big but were also some distance away from where i was stood. That shot is a crop of a larger image.
Its a great combination if you are on a budget- but judging by your gear i am guessing thats not an issue :) If you can afford it go with the 300F4IS it will be sharper than the combo alternative.
For me the combo is a good cost:production ratio- i cant justify large expensive purchases for my hobby :(

[howiele]

I didn't know where to post this but this is the closest place I can post this picture.

for all those debating between a 1.4tc or a 2.0tc. Here is a shot with my 70-200 2.8 non-IS with a 2.0tc. With the tc, I notice a slower reaction to auto-focus and it shrinks the aperture from f/2.8 to f/5.6. I had a polarizing filter on the lens to cut the reflection in the water.

Side note: this was shot with a XTi.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3219/3040473382_842e27c2de_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3226/3039595057_c3647ea683_b.jpg

Enjoy

[Coppatop85]

Using the 70-200 2.8 IS version in low-light concert photography with a 1.4x T-con for these shots. It performed very well I thought, especially considering the conditions.

1. This one was taken with a 70-200 with a 1.4x Tcon attached, at 3200 ISO. It didn't come out bad considering.
http://www.coppatopphotos.com/img/v7/p964442410-4.jpg

2. A similar shot here, but at 1600 with no T-con. Interesting to see the comparison I think. Shows the T-con performs pretty well IMO.
http://www.coppatopphotos.com/img/v6/p665688968-4.jpg

3. Another shot with the T-con attached.
http://www.coppatopphotos.com/img/v1/p915326498-4.jpg

[maxheadforever]

Canon 70-200mm 2.8L IS with extender 1.4X and 2X photos upload, let's take a look how sharp the lens is when the 1.4x or the 2X extender is used. Please upload.

Thank you

Wayne

[mattograph]

Wow, disappointing.

[BenJohnson]

I plan on getting an extender for my 70-200 2.8 IS

Once I do, I'll be sure to post some photos!

[BenJohnson]

I ended up getting the Kenko 1.4x Pro 300 DG Extender. I have only used it once so far
(today), but I'm pretty impressed. It was bright and sunny, so I had no problems with AI
Servo tracking moving subjects, AF was still quick and accurate. I think it will be a
normal part of my setup for outdoor sports. The shots are more than acceptable for my
uses (normally I do very few large prints). On "test" shots there may be a bit of
difference between TC and no-TC, but it's not really noticeable until you get to 100%
crops.

Here's a couple shots from my first day using it. Did a 100% crop of the first shot.

http://benjohnson.smugmug.com/photos/527532638_4ciPh-M.jpg

http://benjohnson.smugmug.com/photos/527617941_kXmUg-M.jpg

http://benjohnson.smugmug.com/photos/527551032_wguzK-M.jpg

http://benjohnson.smugmug.com/photos/527570202_zMrVu-M.jpg

[BenJohnson]

A few more with the 70-200 2.8 IS and Kenko Pro 1.4x Extender:

1
http://benjohnson.smugmug.com/photos/535876812_dBNLS-M.jpg

2
http://benjohnson.smugmug.com/photos/535877836_XZtmn-M.jpg

3
http://benjohnson.smugmug.com/photos/535878057_bdJps-M.jpg

4
http://benjohnson.smugmug.com/photos/536690466_aGjzB-M.jpg

5
http://benjohnson.smugmug.com/photos/536691779_ejdZB-M.jpg

6
http://benjohnson.smugmug.com/photos/536692177_ghk3d-M.jpg

[Treat me like a tourist]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2288/3543208991_13fe59a56a_b.jpg
taken with a 5d

[Treat me like a tourist]

I wonder if i am the only one still using this combination- too poor to move up to a 300mm prime :( http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2475/3555092736_62eeedc777_b.jpg

[Treat me like a tourist]

Last one until someone else posts an image. This really is a good quality combination.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3412/3557907590_3bb7bb5773_b.jpg

[Coppatop85]

Some more from me:

@7.1
http://www.coppatopphotos.com/img/v4/p740998678-4.jpg

@6.3
http://www.coppatopphotos.com/img/v4/p898813099-5.jpg

@5.6
http://www.coppatopphotos.com/img/v6/p828898745-4.jpg

@ 5.6
http://www.coppatopphotos.com/img/v4/p625025453-4.jpg

@ 4
http://www.coppatopphotos.com/img/v4/p1062684771-4.jpg

[BluewookieJim]

finally something somewhat decent to contribute:

Saw this guy (and 2 little ones) in my friends backyard while visiting Austin this past weekend. This was about the only decent one I got with the 70-200 F/2.8L + Tamron 1.4TC combo:

http://photos.kodanja.net/img/v5/p1017300934-5.jpg

[mitsu13gman]

So as I was getting ready to order my first teleconverter, I was seriously conflicted over whether to get the 1.4x or 2.0x. My logic was that, while the IQ and AF hit with the 2.0 was going to be greater, the 1.4x gain over the 200mm on the 70-200 really wouldn't justify the cost.

I guess on some level I reasoned that if the 2x tele converter proved to be unacceptable, I could always get the 1.4x later and deal.

I will agree that the AF is significantly slower with the TC attached. That said, I really had to share these two pics I took with the combo over the July 4th weekend.


The first is an ant that was dragging a young grasshopper body back to its nest. This was taken at 200mm (400mm equivalent) at near to minimum focus distance, and this is roughly a 100% crop. It didn't work out to be eactly 100%, but it's close enough. While it's not nearly as sharp as some options, I'm more than thrilled with the results! It's certainly the best longer lens I could get for the money. Keep in mind this ant was 1/2" (12mm) long at best, so this is some crazy magnification given the nearly 6'/2m working distance:
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/363/antatauntkris0015.jpg

And then a moon pic from a few nights ago. This is a 100% crop. Again, there are better out there, but I'm still very happy with the results.
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/2627/westernprommoon0024.jpg

The primary reason I posted this is because I had a hard time finding a post where someone showed the results of the 2x converter on the 70-200. And given all of the warnings to the contrary, I wanted to post a few photos that I felt showed the combination to be more than acceptable. Exif should be intact on both.

Mike


MODS - I just realized I put this in the archive section instead of the general discussion - if someone would be kind enough to move this, I would be most appreciative.

[halitime]

Thanks for posting this. I have a 70-200 f4 L and a Tamron 1.4 TC and I'm very happy with the combo but of course I want something longer.Next week I'll be doing a two day shoot on Vancouver Island with a friend who has a 300
f4 IS and a 1.4 Canon TC so I'll be able to try that combo as well as trying two 1.4X stacked.It would be interesting to see a comparison between two 1.4's
and a 2X.In the end I will probably pick up a 2X now and then some long primes when I can.

[BenJohnson]

Here is the 70-200 2.8 IS with and without the Kenko Pro 1.4x extender. They are all
shot wide open. The shots without the extender are cropped to show the same field of
view.

Canon 40D, single shot AF, center point, ISO 100
Canon 70-200 2.8 IS with and without Kenko Pro 1.4x Extender
1/800 sec shutter speed for f/4.0 shots (extender)
1/1600 sec shutter speed for f/2.8 shots (no extender)
The shots at 200mm were resampled for the same field of view as with the extender.

100% crops, no processing:

200mm f/2.8
http://benjohnson.smugmug.com/photos/675336286_uewGX-O.jpg

280mm f/4 (extender)
http://benjohnson.smugmug.com/photos/675336318_4AJj7-O.jpg

200mm f/2.8
http://benjohnson.smugmug.com/photos/675336264_MY4DP-O.jpg

280mm f/4 (extender)
http://benjohnson.smugmug.com/photos/675336269_2YZAd-O.jpg

I think the shots with the extender definitely look better than the cropped ones!

Here is a shot from a recent event in which I was using the 1.4x extender:

http://benjohnson.smugmug.com/photos/675338849_t5478-XL.jpg

[racer49]

Ian,
Love the nut hatch pic.

[balamri]

Hi folks,
I am about to purchase this lens ( Ef 70-200 F2.8 IS L II, plus 2x extender) through out my positive reviews about this combination. I am falling in love with it.

I have EOS 500D camera, I know its compatable with this lens. the question, is it going to give me the same razor sharp image quality pictures as the one's posted on this forum? considering most of the pictures taken with advanced EOS 1ii, EOS 5D, EOS 50D and so forth.

Thanks all,

[Wallace River]

This was with a 7D, 70-200 IS f2.8L lens plus 2X TC, standing in a boat on a windy day, so I was mostly satisfied with the result. This is about a 75% crop. I've had the camera outfit for about 3 months. The second pic is a low-res version of the original image. I'm guessing I was 100 yards away from the base of the tree.

[J.Litton]

Can we start a thread with this setup to compare image quality w/ and w/o the tc?

Thanks :)

[ni$mo350]

I'll bite. All were with the 5D2+70-200 f/4 IS and Canon 1.4x TC

http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/ss222/goddardca/4726761882_9a03353bbe_b-2.jpg

http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/ss222/goddardca/4726116195_ca7eb6ae16_b-2.jpg

http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/ss222/goddardca/4725393921_2520ef131c_b-2.jpg

http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/ss222/goddardca/4694753641_3bbf3b85b3_b.jpg

http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/ss222/goddardca/4693338297_dc54d45299_b.jpg

[J.Litton]

Thanks nismo! Come on guys, there has to be more of you using this setup.

[Racer46]

Wow Ni$mo..... Very nice shots!!!!!!!

I'm obviously into racing as well and I wish our track photographers were as good as you!

[ni$mo350]

Wow Ni$mo..... Very nice shots!!!!!!!

I'm obviously into racing as well and I wish our track photographers were as good as you!


Thanks! That means a lot!

[tonylong]

Hey Chris, where is that track? Very nice set!

[ni$mo350]

Thanks Tony, it's at good ól PIR. The nice thing about bike track days is they let you walk just about anywhere but the bad thing is you have to walk EVERYWHERE haha. It was extremely hot but it was worth it for the shots. They usually have an open drag night on Friday's. I'd suggest checking it out at least once. Some very cool cars and people there.

[DreamState]

Nismos Photos goes to show you....you don't a Canon 7D or 1D bodies.You can make the magic happen with a 5D :D

[ni$mo350]

^^ Very true! I was a tad worried as it was my first time at the track and panning but it worked perfectly. I must have had 95% keepers panning. The USM and IS on the 70-200L helped too :)

[tonylong]

Thanks Tony, it's at good ól PIR. The nice thing about bike track days is they let you walk just about anywhere but the bad thing is you have to walk EVERYWHERE haha. It was extremely hot but it was worth it for the shots. They usually have an open drag night on Friday's. I'd suggest checking it out at least once. Some very cool cars and people there.

Cool, Chris! I thought it'd likely be the PIR, but I hadn't seen a schedule for bike races...thanks for filling me in! I've thought often about getting down there, and you are inspiring me!

[DreamState]

^^ Very true! I was a tad worried as it was my first time at the track and panning but it worked perfectly. I must have had 95% keepers panning. The USM and IS on the 70-200L helped too :)

Got more ? Similar stuff ?

[ni$mo350]

Cool, Chris! I thought it'd likely be the PIR, but I hadn't seen a schedule for bike races...thanks for filling me in! I've thought often about getting down there, and you are inspiring me!

The bike races were a little weird. They scheduled them on a Tuesday if I remember correctly. I took the day off to go shoot since it was nice out and lucked out with seeing that RC8 and a couple of the new S1000R's

Got more ? Similar stuff ?

Yea on my flickr

http://www.flickr.com/photos/chrisg_photography/sets/72157624256994790/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/chrisg_photography/sets/72157624211248235/

[cmoy]

Here's one of the few times I've used the 1.4x...

70-200mm f/2.8 non IS
Canon 1.4x TC
f/4
1/320 sec
ISO 400
http://www.christophergmoy.com/Events/Shantina-and-Lemuel-Wedding/Shantina-and-Lemuel-Wedding/WH2K2769/963695013_uPMSA-XL.jpg

[silvrr]

With the f/4L version and 1.4X TC

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3438/3236923459_d652b02844_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/34579848@N03/3236923459/)
IMG_8920 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/34579848@N03/3236923459/) by Adam.Mrugacz (http://www.flickr.com/people/34579848@N03/), on Flickr

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3626/3373846774_f5da261551_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/34579848@N03/3373846774/)
IMG_1076 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/34579848@N03/3373846774/) by Adam.Mrugacz (http://www.flickr.com/people/34579848@N03/), on Flickr

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3417/3576091018_b3da0c2df8_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/34579848@N03/3576091018/)
IMG066 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/34579848@N03/3576091018/) by Adam.Mrugacz (http://www.flickr.com/people/34579848@N03/), on Flickr

[ComeBack]

450d 70-200mm f/4 with Kenko Pro 300 2x @162mm

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4087/5045972693_42afe31030_z.jpg

[patrickf117]

new kid in town...first time use of canon 1.4x II it's pretty cool but an expensive hobby to say the least.

[View_Finder]

So where should I post some examples of the 70-200mm f/2.8L IS with a 2x II TC? In this thread or is there another?

[patrickf117]

2nd set...

[patrickf117]

My nephew playing flag football...

[patrickf117]

AV shot wide open f4 70-200 2.8 - 1.4xII

[patrickf117]

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