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scokar
12th of April 2009 (Sun), 01:20
Are there any known cases of death or injury caused by trying to read the 40D manual?? I'm on page 68 and i can't feel my brain any more :(

let me rephrase a sentence:

"only the basic feature (except the advanced feature) can be set as explained in this chapter"

or references to the mysterious entity known as "the standard exposure".

tzalman
12th of April 2009 (Sun), 04:31
There are several people around here who are decidedly weird and I suspect a Canon manual may be the cause.

400dabuser
12th of April 2009 (Sun), 04:59
There are several people around here who are decidedly weird and I suspect a Canon manual may be the cause.
:DGuess that doesn't include me, because I never tend to read the manual at all

400dabuser
12th of April 2009 (Sun), 05:10
Are there any known cases of death or injury caused by trying to read the 40D manual?? I'm on page 68 and i can't feel my brain any more :(

let me rephrase a sentence:

"only the basic feature (except the advanced feature) can be set as explained in this chapter"

or references to the mysterious entity known as "the standard exposure".


Tbh, I do read the manual, but I don't tend to read everything, either on the need to know basis, or at least one chapter a day. If there are things that I need to know, I rush to the index straight away

Hermeto
12th of April 2009 (Sun), 05:35
Are there any known cases of death or injury caused by trying to read the 40D manual?? I'm on page 68 and i can't feel my brain any more :(

let me rephrase a sentence:

"only the basic feature (except the advanced feature) can be set as explained in this chapter"

or references to the mysterious entity known as "the standard exposure".

There is nothing like that on page 68, no even remotely similar.
40D Instruction Manual, page 68, talks about custom White
Balance, not about the exposure.

If you have problems understanding IM, most likely, you read it the wrong way.
Instruction Manual should be read with the camera in your hands!

Everything you read, you should try on the camera: every setting, every adjustment, every option..
Reading it like a book, like a novel, will not help at all.
It’ll only make it incredibly boring and pretty soon you’ll lose interest.

SkipD
12th of April 2009 (Sun), 07:22
Sometimes the translations from Japanese into an English-language manual get scrambled a bit. This makes reading and understanding the manual a bit difficult. I suppose it might be easier if the reader also understood Japanese.

I recall a manual for a ham radio (that I sold a long time ago) that had this statement about using the frequency-tuning knob: "Remember the knob up and down usually".

I suppose it might be easier to re-translate some of these manuals if the reader also understood Japanese.

JeffreyG
12th of April 2009 (Sun), 07:30
Sometimes the translations from Japanese into an English-language manual get scrambled a bit. This makes reading and understanding the manual a bit difficult. I suppose it might be easier if the reader also understood Japanese.

I recall a manual for a ham radio (that I sold a long time ago) that had this statement about using the frequency-tuning knob: "Remember the knob up and down usually".

I suppose it might be easier to re-translate some of these manuals if the reader also understood Japanese.

You should see some of the 'Chinglish' instructions that come with mass market toys manufactured in China. Sometimes I think the plant manager was going to hire an english speaker to create them and then got talked into letting his brother in law that had taken an english class once do it.

tonylong
12th of April 2009 (Sun), 08:17
Are there any known cases of death or injury caused by trying to read the 40D manual?? I'm on page 68 and i can't feel my brain any more :(

let me rephrase a sentence:

"only the basic feature (except the advanced feature) can be set as explained in this chapter"

or references to the mysterious entity known as "the standard exposure".

I'm not sure if you are being light-hearted/whimsical here, especially about the two things you mention, or whether you seriously don't understand them.

Like someone mentioned, at least if this is your first DSLR, you would really benefit from having your camera in-hand and stepping through things, as well as using some on-line helps like the Canon tutorials:

http://web.canon.jp/imaging/enjoydslr/index.html

The first question you raise, you do need to understand, which is there is a difference between Auto modes (Green Box, Landscape, Action, etc), Semi Auto modes in the Creative modes (Program, Aperture Priority Av, Shutter Priority Tv), and Manual/Bulb modes. Each of these modes has different features and reading and understanding them in your manual is the only way to understand the specific uses of your manal.

Your question about "standard exposure" is about how the camera by default in-camera metering, which has been in most cameras for, well, a lot of years. It is the only method of exposure in the Auto/Basic modes, and is used in the Creative modes as the default suggested exposure which you are free to change.

If you are a new DSLR user, you may want to start out in the Auto Modes. Learn the first section of the Manual while taking pictures in those modes, so you can go from Green Box to, say, Action, and Night Portrait, and get some decent results. You will not be able to change exposure settings and you won't have certain features available to you, but at least you can start taking pictures.

If and when you get to the point where you want more effective use of the camera for different scenes, that's where you want to delve into the sections covering the Creative modes, and all the features that you can use to set up and customize your camera for full use.

Hope that helps, if you were actually asking for help:)!

scokar
12th of April 2009 (Sun), 10:15
I don't know if our "weirdness" is Canon, manuals, photography, or just life



That paraphrasing was not specified to be on page 68 in any particular region of that page, nor in any font style. However, the plot and character development do leave a lot to be desired!, "their lenses met across the room" ...



"Remember the knob up and down usually" -- careful, could be your new title



yep, leaning towards being "light hearted/whimsical", I still cannot feel my brain


:)

20droger
12th of April 2009 (Sun), 13:55
I find the Canon manuals to be excellent, especially when compared with the competition. However, if anyone really can't comprehend the manual, I suggest he/she invests in one of the ShortCourses books, found here: http://www.shortcourses.com/store/. These camera-specific books provide a very readable alternative to discover all the features of your camera.