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[L`Inde]

I cannot be titled as a photographer, I'm far from it, but I am interested in becoming one, at least improving my skills at a considerable level of accuracy.
These are some pictures I've recently taken, I'm looking for general advices, blows in the head... light, perspective, color, enhancement, tehniques, etc...
help, people, help... you should be the ones to ask for, now shouldn't you?!

[L`Inde]

this is gonna sound lame, I know... but how exactly can I submit pictures around here?

[L`Inde]

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/msgr/supposedly_vesperal/.tmp/highway.jpg?ms_____DnU0wOMjz

this is one of many, sepia filtered in adobe, thought the colors are nice...

[redbutt]

This is just a forum. You need to host your pictures somewhere else and link to them, like you did already.

[L`Inde]

http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/secondannadarvulia/vwp?.dir=/terasa&.src=ph&.dnm=antene.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/secondannadarvulia/lst%3f%26.dir=/terasa%26.src=ph%26.view=t

unfortunetaly, yes, I've just realized that... actually read it on the help page :)
thing is, this may be just a forum(and btw, I've seen a lot of rudimentary built "just" forums and they mostly had accessible forms to submitting pictures), that doesn't nullify the fact that both users and visitors should be given the chance to submit information easily...

I don't know yet if the link above works, there's only one way to find out...

[L`Inde]

it doesn't, 't will take me a whole day to put my gallery on the web, till then how about some comments to what I already linked you?..

[Leighow]

Look it is beautiful. Great mood. The only thing that is a spolier is the road. So therein -- IMHO -- lies the challenge, namely; having a great subject in mind and being able to get to it when the conditions (light, mood, etc, etc) are "right".

In this case you were in a foreign land and presumably would be lost if you went "off-road" to seach for a better set of trees. But the concept is great, and there are other similar posts on this site amoung vineyards as I recall. Imagine your line of trees as it might top-off a hill ... in mist .. or covered with ice .. or snow .. or with morning light sparkling somewhere .. or everywhere.

That is what I see in your shot.

I wish I could find the link to a photo (one of several) that Minolta posted on their web site a few years ago. The image was the photo equivalent of Walter de la Mare's poem "Nod " http://www.bartleby.com/103/90.html
.... a sheperd in India, with a flock of goats/sheep, heading down a puddled road .. with morning or evening sun setting the treed leaves and puddles on fire.

You can do it.

HOWIE

[L`Inde]

The subject was the road itself, covered in mist and snowed branches... or just mist and branches.
It's an obsession I've had since early childhood: the beauty of a road lined on both sides by trees, immense trees...
That day was beautiful, the day I took the picture... heavy mist, all was covered with a thin lair of ice, my "mood" didn't match it thus chosen it, it was merely further inflated by it.
The irregularity you can clearly observ it's accidental, I was driving 140 km/h when taking that picture... I didn't stop the car in a "right place" with regular trees and equal amount of snow thrown on the road just because it wouldn't have been the same. I captured a moment, I captured an image that happened to turn that day into smth quite special and quite beautiful in all its means, smth planned and noticed and constructed would have only ruined it all. This is why I say I'm not a genuine photographer. I express myself through those pictures because they cause expressions not the other way around.
I'm a photographer that doesn't search for light, and sceneries, and specific trails, I am only the person to see the image and turn it into a new obsession for many years, lately I'm turning all my given obsessions into images, at least the ones I can't lure within the clang of the shutter.

I'll give more thought to the second part of your post, later on.
Happy new year, or smth...

[redbutt]

The irregularity you can clearly observ it's accidental, I was driving 140 km/h when taking that picture...

That's your problem. Next time take the time to stop, get out of the car, stretch a bit, and take a shot ot two. You can try different angles, etc. The result will also probably be sharper, which is my main complaint. I think the picture would be better if the road was much sharper before it disapeared into the fog. I can't decide if I like the asymetry or not, but I'd like to see one with the center line of the road right down the middle of the picture too.

As art is mostly subjective, this is just my opinion...as always, I could be totally full of it.

[Leighow]

I'm a photographer that doesn't search for light, and sceneries, and specific trails, I am only the person to see the image and turn it into a new obsession for many years, lately I'm turning all my given obsessions into images, at least the ones I can't lure within the clang of the shutter.
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[L`Inde]

http://images.deviantart.com/large/photography/photomisc/deskofnight.jpg

http://images.deviantart.com/large/photography/photoexperiment/deskatnight2.jpg

http://images.deviantart.com/large/photography/photoexperiment/deskatnight3.jpg

[L`Inde]

http://images.deviantart.com/large/photography/photoexperiment/hospital.jpg

http://images.deviantart.com/large/photography/photoexperiment/girlhighwayblend.jpg

http://images.deviantart.com/large/photography/photoexperiment/blACKDOVE.jpg

[L`Inde]

http://images.deviantart.com/large/photography/photoexperiment/window1.jpg

http://images.deviantart.com/large/photography/photoexperiment/windows.jpg

[L`Inde]

http://images.deviantart.com/large/photography/photosky/mapstonevermore.jpg

http://images.deviantart.com/large/photography/photosky/morehighways.jpg

http://images.deviantart.com/large/photography/photosky/closetohorizon.jpg

[L`Inde]

http://images.deviantart.com/large/photography/photomisc/bodyinthetrunk.jpg


http://images.deviantart.com/large/photography/photomisc/shoex.jpg


http://images.deviantart.com/large/photography/photomisc/wallofnight.jpg

[L`Inde]

as you can see I love to take simple pictures just as much as I like to blend...

I'm pretty confused about how light should fall on the objects I photograph, which angles are best, what focus to aim for, etc...

I'd appreciate it if you add your comments and specify the picture you were lookin' at.

[marie]

hello ...

your quote >
The subject was the road itself, covered in mist and snowed branches... or just mist and branches.
It's an obsession I've had since early childhood: the beauty of a road lined on both sides by trees, immense trees...
That day was beautiful, the day I took the picture... heavy mist, all was covered with a thin lair of ice, my "mood" didn't match it thus chosen it, it was merely further inflated by it.
The irregularity you can clearly observ it's accidental, I was driving 140 km/h when taking that picture... I didn't stop the car in a "right place" with regular trees and equal amount of snow thrown on the road just because it wouldn't have been the same. I captured a moment, I captured an image that happened to turn that day into smth quite special and quite beautiful in all its means, smth planned and noticed and constructed would have only ruined it all. This is why I say I'm not a genuine photographer. I express myself through those pictures because they cause expressions not the other way around.
I'm a photographer that doesn't search for light, and sceneries, and specific trails, I am only the person to see the image and turn it into a new obsession for many years, lately I'm turning all my given obsessions into images, at least the ones I can't lure within the clang of the shutter.
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[L`Inde]

Well, you are right, or at least semi-correct in your statements... For many years now, (not so many though, I'm only sixteen) I've been dealing somewhat an obsessive profile of imagination... I have an excellent photographic memory (at my age I have to say it helps a great deal to cast your glances only once over the history lesson and memorize it almost instantaneously), come to think about it I organize all my memories throughout images, pictures, snapshots of the past, my thoughts randomize these into real moments but the core is within images... even curled up in obsession, even haunted into photographs. Photography has always been fascinating for me and as long as I intend to turn into more than a hobby I must love it somehow, yes...

I don't like to arrange objects before taking the picture, these should merely be memories upon paper (at best! nowadays it's all digital); any assembly of the scene would only draw falsity upon it. Beauty lies in what's untouchable and unaltered. Or so I think... You see, the sandals shot... amazing, I like that photo a lot: the shoes are old and dusty and even ugly, but they've been lying that attick in the exact position you can see in my picture maybe for years, I for one haven't moved them one centimeter, my presence caught a splinter of beauty because of light, because my right knee hurt so badly I had sit down on the chair by that low window, before those very shoes... Pushed the shutter. Story ends. Beauty lies within.

[L`Inde]

Your picture is beautiful yet very different from mine... maybe it's a difference of "mood" like one of the above said, maybe it's just that I see it much sharper, much powerful within contours and forms... Mine's only faded, more like fading, continuosly fading away into inertia... drifiting... That road made me feel just like that. This picture still does... Therefore it's beautiful.

[marie]

wonderful
(this in reply to your first answer to my post here )

and please write your expressions in
( maybe soon to be) book form,
also maybe with your pictures alongside expressing your thoughts
the pages full of your expressions and experiences as only you will know and feel

you have your whole life laid out on a blank page in front of you
you are a thinking walking novel in the making


time is on your side
take it at a slightly slower pace and so much will become clearer

go for it,
all you want to achieve
you are full of what you don't even recognize yet

a 'mind of your own ' is a very valuable asset to start with in life


with best regards
marie

[marie]

[quote]L`Inde wrote:
maybe it's a difference of "mood" like one of the above said, maybe it's just that I see it much sharper, much powerful within contours and forms... Mine's only faded, more like fading, continuosly fading away into inertia... drifiting... That road made me feel just like that. This picture still does... Therefore it's beautiful.

[L`Inde]

maybe I shouldn't have revealed my age, now people will only look upon that and say these are great stuff for the amount of winters I've been given by now... Can't you at least try to be objective and comment?!

really, no more answers?!

[marie]

once more I agree with you completely
and I want to apologize for my reply

I hated it just after I posted it as it seemed patronizing , even to me : )
and if theres anything I detest,
its patronizing, from anyone,
awful
by the way, I forgot to say that I like your picture of the lady looking out the window
it expresses a lot
someone curious , maybe a busybody watching the neighbours
but mostly I feel its like someone half afraid and watching out for someone or something they don't want,
how she is kind of crouched.
its just a picture, but interesting
love your sky shots also
thought that the foreground in them could be better though
your descriptions of whats happening in the pictures make really good reading.
the attic shots really make me curious,
those items, and you sitting there , those sandles never touched.
have to travel down the country until later today now so getting this in while I can ,while someone is, more or less, yelling at me to hurry myself up

very best wishes always
marie

[L`Inde]

yeah, I like the window photo a lot for just about the same reasons as before... a snapshot, my mother, she was looking out the window, waiting for the cab to show up; I'm only sorry I didn't use the tripod, because I turned off flash and it needed a relatively long time in order to make the exposure. It turned all blurred and , damnit. What can you tell me about the light and the angle of it? Any recommendations?!

PS: mhm, patronizing throught compliment, slick and subtle form of manipulation used by adults, damn you :)))

[L`Inde]

by the way, I'm using camedia c211 zoom, from olympus...
can I make infrared photographs?! can anyone tell me more about this camera? I've had it for a very short while.

[marie]

I liked the blur in the shot of your mother
and thought you had planned it so to add more mystery to the scene

Others here may have very much more informative guidence as regards what you would like help with.
Back further on this post a few have tried already ?

very best wishes
marie

[redbutt]

L`Inde wrote:
by the way, I'm using camedia c211 zoom, from olympus...
can I make infrared photographs?! can anyone tell me more about this camera? I've had it for a very short while.

Being that this is a 'Canon' forum, I'm not sure if people are up to speed on Olympus cameras.

I can tell you though, that if your lens accepts filter attachements, you can possibly get an IR filter. You should check with your local camera shop for such a filter and filter adapter.

[L`Inde]

http://images.deviantart.com/large/photography/photomisc/circleofshades.jpg

[L`Inde]

http://images.deviantart.com/large/photography/photomisc/irattempt.jpg


does this resemble IR, by any chance? I tested my camera with this shot, just like I read on the nets but I'm not sure of the result...

[marie]

hi again

I like your shots very much
As you ask , I don't think they resemble IR,
me not real sure

'fraid I won't be much help
but I do like them, a lot
I used to have an olympus slr camera many years ago but it wouldn't be anything like the one you mention
I think.......
( looking back on this message .......that 'slr' I have above looks like 'sir ' : )

I love your cold and clear pictures of, more or less 'normal' life patterns
the crisp footprints in the snow and the shadows falling
and the sky shot is beautiful
and yes............... mysterious !

hope you get proper answers and keep going

best of luck : )

marie

[L`Inde]

ha ha ha, and I like your perpetual flattery also :) come to think about it, it was only an IR test for my camera, I merely wanted to catch the area with most light...

anyways, you keep saying that, but no one besides you seems to visit this thread; that gets me pretty frustrated, the fact that all the other forums I've been through state just about the same compliments and no actual comments or advice, increases the frustration... but, I don't know you and neither do you therefore there is no consistent bound between us to make you say those things out of complacency, therefore I should indulge myself into believing them and have a good sunday morning...

and you, you have a great sunday afternoon (that'll be the time you'll probably turn to reading this...)

[marie]

no worries,
believe me they do visit this thread.

it all depends on actions and reactions
and also maybe their being busy
you keep asking if you feel its worth it ,
and I for one think you should
a lot more here know a lot more of what you want
its just a matter of time


your quote >
but, I don't know you and neither do you therefore there is no consistent bound between us to make you say those things out of complacency, therefore I should indulge myself into believing them and have a good sunday morning...

and you, you have a great sunday afternoon (that'll be the time you'll probably turn to reading this...)

end of your quote


I like you and what you are all about but you'll maybe take that the wrong way also, thinking I am talking down to you.
I most def. am not .
If there is one thing I have got it is a sense of who is what , even from a distance , and even never meeting anyone, just have this something which tells me a lot more about a person and so my instincts take over
and they (instincts) have never been wrong yet **
all through my lifetime

I trust them (instincts)
......... when I meet people
near or far away

**always a first time though : )))

back to the business on hand : )
did you use an ir filter by the way ?
I couldn't tell, but as you mentioned it
you must have done something different.

I would not be as technically equipped : )) as others here are and would know perhaps what would be a help to you
me , I just really love photography...... full stop
I know a good picture when I see one...
or a potentially good photographer in the making
.........if that helps : )))))

If my opinion matters ......
well, most of photography is by trial and error..
thats the best and 'sometimes' the only way we learn

best wishes again

marie

[Leighow]

L`Inde wrote:
maybe I shouldn't have revealed my age, now people will only look upon that and say these are great stuff for the amount of winters I've been given by now... Can't you at least try to be objective and comment?!

really, no more answers?!

A SHARED DREAM
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L'Inde, I think that many of us share your love for photography. We too:

* don't like to arrange images, or assemble things
* agree that beauty lies within
* are trying to learn how light should fall on a object.
* and which angles are best.


NO SIMPLE ANSWER
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The problem is (I think) that there is no one simple answer. It depends on the photographic opportunity. But a great subject and mooment in time and space will itslef carry an arrangement, and an assemply of things, with beauty within and with light that falls in a wonderful way, and with angles that are a treat to our eyes.

NATURE PHOTOGRAPY IS MY DREAM
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I myself love nature photography. I am trying to learn how to see opportunities that bring the above concerns (with solutions) within the reach and range of my G2. That means searching for subjects and being there when the light and shadows falls in a beautiful way and sets out a composition with angles that move the eye across the image. And I love color.

YOU IMAGES DO NOT HAVE A STRONG SUBJECT OR COMPOSITION
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So back to your efforts and your request for comments.
I can only comment on the image -- not your intention. Most of you images fail the critique that posted at http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=2243 On the other hand they all show that you are indeed are creative with lighting etc. But IMHO the subject fails to draw me into the setting. So what can I say about the lighting that floods the wall .. or your fairly tame skyscapes .. or your juxtapositionning of appartment building and graveyard .. etc ?

So I will pick my favourite and close.

I LIKE THE ANGEL
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I guess that that has to be the lights on your face of the angel thjat tops the statue. I will settle on the latter. A nice hint of light. But this needs to be reduced to its basics. Isolated. Then it needs to be closer to the lens. And you have to decide what to do about the sky. The I want some special light. Or maybe rain.


GREAT PHOTOS OPS ARE NOT A DAILY OCCURENCE
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One thing for sure, you cannot get THE BEST shot of this angel if you do not walk by it for perhaps a year, in all seasons, and light, and learn its mood and opportunities.



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