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form
23rd of April 2009 (Thu), 10:10
I purchased some impact swivel brackets from B&H only a few months ago, plus some others last July, and three of them have broken in recent months, including at least one or two of the newest ones. So I'm dissatisfied with the product because it breaks, and I place another order from B&H for a different model of bracket that doesn't have the same weak grip/handle that would snap off like the impact brackets.

Then I send B&H an email showing photos of the broken brackets, and a request for some kind of partial reimbursement for the existing order or perhaps refund for the previous order of the brackets. I tell them I do NOT want more impact brackets because they will obviously break. They send me a response telling me to call customer service.

So this morning I call customer service. They agreed to do the following: "As a gesture to me, they will refund the shipping on the current order not yet fulfilled..." But they will not give any kind of compensation for the brackets. They will replace them IF I send them in, and I must pay the return shipping to send them in.

They didn't really care that I was dissatisfied with the product. They said they understand that I'm not completely happy with the options presented, but that they are fulfilling their obligation to me of replacing the item.

I find it quite stupid that I have to pay return shipping to send them back, but they refund my shipping on my other order. It's like "okay, we'll do a 'gesture' of refunding shipping, but require you to pay return shipping of the defective items"...to me, their gesture looks an awful lot like a hip thrusting motion.

I also find it unsatisfactory that they are sending me more brackets that I know are fragile and will break. What am I supposed to do with them? Sell them? Then I'm just selling someone else a piece of cheap equipment. Plus I'm paying return shipping to send them the defective items. It feels like adding insult to injury. And get this: They didn't even confirm that they would replace them! For instance if I couldn't find all the handles, etc., which were BROKEN off, and send the broken everything, they can't say for sure that they will replace them.

The end result: I have to pay to ship defective items back so they can decide whether or not to replace them. As a gesture of good will, they refund my $6.55 shipping for the latest purchase still unfulfilled, but then I have to pay $10 for postage back to them for the broken items, unless I can somehow manage to cram all their junk brackets into a small priority box, which would only be about $5. If they replace them, then great I have three more impact brackets that will break if I use them, so I obviously am NOT going to use them...therefore they're only worth whatever I happen to sell them for, minus the cost of my shipping the original defective ones back.

So this was my latest experience with B&H.



****Update 5-20-09****

About two weeks after I sent in the broken units, I got an email from b&h stating that they were going to just refund my money. The email didn't look official, but I was interested. A few days after that, I got a more official email from them stating that they had issued the refund. I checked my CC account, and sure enough they refunded it. This is better than having replacement brackets and I'm glad for that, but I still had to pay over $10 in return shipping, over 25% of the original cost of the items, so technically the refund was only about 75%. But still, I am more satisfied with that than if I had just gotten more impact brackets.

Seanzky
23rd of April 2009 (Thu), 10:24
I don't want to start a back and forth bashing here but this is why when it comes to third party/aftermarket stuff, I go to MPEX. B&H is a great store but their branded products, Impact, seems to have a few quirks here and there and they haven't been standing behind them 100%. MPEX on the other hand stands behind their branded products, LumoPro.

If I were you, form, just send it back and have it replaced with the same crappy ones even if you have to pay for shipping. Sell it or eBay it but let the potential buyers know why you are selling them off. Then take all this experience and file it away to that folder called "lesson learned."

There was another thread here about Impact light stands and umbrella swivels. I will always recommend LumoPro LP633 swivels over Impact because MPEX staff are nice to me. Of course our experiences can vary but mine has overall been nothing short of fantastic. Not only do they let me return an item for a full refund or store credit (no restocking fee BS), they even refund the shipping or credit it to my next purchase. If that's not good customer service, I don't know what is.

EDIT: That item I've returned twice is the LumoPro LP120 manual flash. All the other LP's I've owned really give mainstream brands a run for their money --Bogen/Manfrotto and the like.

form
23rd of April 2009 (Thu), 10:31
Well that's what I've already decided to do; I have no choice in the matter. All I can do is give honest report about the kind of customer service B&H gave me.

Cathpah
23rd of April 2009 (Thu), 11:07
and what exactly was it that you purchased?

jbrown7815
23rd of April 2009 (Thu), 11:36
.to me, their gesture looks an awful lot like a hip thrusting motion.

LOL

Lightworks Imaging
23rd of April 2009 (Thu), 14:38
^ +1. LMAO!

form
28th of April 2009 (Tue), 00:23
I stopped buying their cheap impact swivel brackets and decided to try The Morris brand, which looks like it's a better quality design and doesn't have that handle that kept breaking off the impact models.

Shipping the defective impact brackets cost me over $10, roughly as much as I could probably sell one of the brand new brackets for locally. So they took off $6.55 shipping (for my latest purchase) but I had to pay $10 to return their crappy, broken brackets to them for replacement. There's no mistaking it: The gesture really was a hip thrusting motion.

mikekelley
28th of April 2009 (Tue), 00:26
LOL at hip thrusting motion.

I ALMOST bought the impact brackets, but just decided to man up and get name-brand stuff that I know won't break.

form
28th of April 2009 (Tue), 00:31
If it looks exactly like the impact bracket, it has the same weak point and very possibly may break at some point. The handle is attached to the main frame of the bracket by very brittle plastic, and that's the critical flaw of the design. It's the one and only part that consistently breaks.

form
20th of May 2009 (Wed), 21:15
****Update 5-20-09****

About two weeks after I sent in the broken units, I got an email from b&h stating that they were going to just refund my money. The email didn't look official, but I was interested. A few days after that, I got a more official email from them stating that they had issued the refund. I checked my CC account, and sure enough they refunded it. This is better than having replacement brackets and I'm glad for that, but I still had to pay over $10 in return shipping, over 25% of the original cost of the items, so technically the refund was only about 75%. But still, I am more satisfied with that than if I had just gotten more impact brackets.

Cathpah
20th of May 2009 (Wed), 21:35
****Update 5-20-09****

About two weeks after I sent in the broken units, I got an email from b&h stating that they were going to just refund my money. The email didn't look official, but I was interested. A few days after that, I got a more official email from them stating that they had issued the refund. I checked my CC account, and sure enough they refunded it. This is better than having replacement brackets and I'm glad for that, but I still had to pay over $10 in return shipping, over 25% of the original cost of the items, so technically the refund was only about 75%. But still, I am more satisfied with that than if I had just gotten more impact brackets.


good to hear....and while them paying for the return shipping would be nice, there are many other companies that will ask you to pay for return shipping, so it's not all that out of the ordinary.

MR do little
20th of May 2009 (Wed), 23:10
Kudos to B&H for refunding you the money, paying for the return shipping is not unusal at all its comon practice, nor unreasonable imo.

You got your money back and learned that plastic umbrella adapters is simply crap. SP-system, Delta, Impact, Medialight etc. All the same..

The Morris umbrella tilthead(assuming (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/90002-REG/Morris_32202_MTH_202_Umbrella_Tilt_Head.html) thats the one you getting), dont have a handle it has a knob... im not sure thats an improvement. Depending on what you plan on puttin on that adapter the knob will be a bad design for tightning/loosning the adapter.

Spend 6,55USD more and get a real (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/546375-REG/Manfrotto_by_Bogen_Imaging_026_026_Swivel_Umbrella _Adapter.html) adapter in aluminum, that will outlast you and can be used for more purposes then one.