POTN Aussie Club #6 - What does the 'P' stand for anyway??

[mickeyjuice]

Just never understood people's obsession with primes.

Play with an 85L for a bit...

[The Moose]

Cover the zoom range of a 24-70 or 70-200 in primes for the same price :P

I appreciate the IQ, I just don't think the inconvenience and outlay is worth it unless you have a specific requirement to satisfy.

I only bought the prime because it was cheaper and I needed something wide. Unless I had the top of the range primes (35L, 85L, 135L, 300L, 400L) then I can't say I'd prefer them. But I need zooms :lol:

[Jim G]

Cover the zoom range of a 24-70 or 70-200 in primes for the same price :P

I appreciate the IQ, I just don't think the inconvenience and outlay is worth it unless you have a specific requirement to satisfy.

Each to their own needs... I have a 70-200 and a 135L and they both get used, just for different things. If I only did, say, events coverage I don't think I'd feel the need for the 135L whereas if I only did studio work I don't think I'd feel the need for the zoom.

In the end they're all just tools for certain purposes.

[JustinLawrence]

Each to their own needs... I have a 70-200 and a 135L and they both get used, just for different things. If I only did, say, events coverage I don't think I'd feel the need for the 135L whereas if I only did studio work I don't think I'd feel the need for the zoom.

In the end they're all just tools for certain purposes.

I dunno, i have the trio of L zooms and my cheapest lens 85 1.8 gets used just as much, if not more than the rest of them. But then again i do have a 5D, and everyone knows the 5D loves primes like a fat kid loves cake.

I would Love and 85L so much!!! anyone in syd have one that i can borrow? i can trade for 70-200L or something for a bit?

[AdamC]

Each to their own needs... I have a 70-200 and a 135L and they both get used, just for different things. If I only did, say, events coverage I don't think I'd feel the need for the 135L whereas if I only did studio work I don't think I'd feel the need for the zoom.

In the end they're all just tools for certain purposes.

Exactly. That's why I said "unless you have a specific need." I feel that primes are too limiting for general purpose use.

[JustinLawrence]

^ Ah yeah Jim, i didnt read you post properly, i agree with your statement after all :) I wouldn't take primes out and about to cover an event, unless there was a specific need to have fast glass.

OT. I need a new HDD, getting full up and i seem to be taking hundreds of baby photos ;)

[Jim G]

Exactly. That's why I said "unless you have a specific need." I feel that primes are too limiting for general purpose use.

Sometimes it's nice to be limited - for my own personal creativity I enjoy the challenge of being limited to one focal length per lens... makes one think a lot more about composition and framing and do a bit more foot zooming rather than standing in one spot and just zooming closer.

I don't think that's that popular a view, though :p

[fungry]

^ Ah yeah Jim, i didnt read you post properly, i agree with your statement after all :) I wouldn't take primes out and about to cover an event, unless there was a specific need to have fast glass.

OT. I need a new HDD, getting full up and i seem to be taking hundreds of baby photos ;)
Good on you, would be well worth it :) I always laugh when I see baby pics of myself hehe.
Sometimes it's nice to be limited - for my own personal creativity I enjoy the challenge of being limited to one focal length per lens... makes one think a lot more about composition and framing and do a bit more foot zooming rather than standing in one spot and just zooming closer.

I don't think that's that popular a view, though :p
More reason to get a prime ;) One day...

[JustinLawrence]

Good on you, would be well worth it :) I always laugh when I see baby pics of myself hehe.

More reason to get a prime ;) One day...

Grab a nifty, it works nicely on a 450D, cant go wrong for $130

[AdamC]

Actually I've heard that said many times and I rather disagree (from my own experience.) More often than not, it hampers my creativity by not allowing me to compose how I want - obviously this is when foot zoom isn't possible or viable.

Quick question (Jim, everyone) - you're at an event with nightclub-like lighting and wish to do candid shots of the partygoers (head, head and shoulders, 1, 2, 3 people per shot, usual stuff.) Which lens do you use, and why? Your options are: 18-55 F/3.5-5.0 kit, Sigma 28-105 F/3.8-5.6, Canon 50/1.8, Canon 70-200/4.

Lighting is limited to ambient + single on-camera 580EX.

[Jim G]

More reason to get a prime ;) One day...

One of my favourite primes is my 50mm f/1.4 Super Takumar... less than fifty bucks and has many good points... very sharp from f/2, build quality better than any other lens I own... if you're doing creative/fun stuff and can afford the time to MF then it's a fantastic way of getting yourself into some primes for cheap.

having said that, though, I can't use it with my 20D just because the viewfinder is so dinky and dim that it's too darn hard to MF. :p

Food for thought perhaps.

[Jim G]

Actually I've heard that said many times and I rather disagree (from my own experience.) More often than not, it hampers my creativity by not allowing me to compose how I want - obviously this is when foot zoom isn't possible or viable.

Quick question (Jim, everyone) - you're at an event with nightclub-like lighting and wish to do candid shots of the partygoers (head, head and shoulders, 1, 2, 3 people per shot, usual stuff.) Which lens do you use, and why? Your options are: 18-55 F/3.5-5.0 kit, Sigma 28-105 F/3.8-5.6, Canon 50/1.8, Canon 70-200/4.

Lighting is limited to ambient + single on-camera 580EX.

18-55 for sure, combined with a 580EX bounced off the ceiling with the white card up. ETTL w/FEC to taste. AF set to One Shot so that you have AF assist to compensate for the dim kit lens. Shoot in M mode - ISO 800, f/5.6, 1/100s or similar. Ought to get a bit of ambient in there if it's a dim pub etc. but still have everything be sharp/acceptably not-noisy. Even with a 400D you aren't going to be hampered by the noise at ISO 800, particularly not if you're just planning on small print/web usage.

28mm is too limiting - you'll always end up with people grabbing friends/randoms and the 3-person group is suddenly 6 and 28mm is too tight :p

[Mark]

Exactly. That's why I said "unless you have a specific need." I feel that primes are too limiting for general purpose use.

Not really, depends what your general purpose is, obviously I wouldn't be taking primes only to an event, but I would certainly love a 35+ 50/85 for if it is darker (I am getting into gig photography, so another reason I would lurve some primes :p)

With the FL selection, I gaffaed my 24-70 at 35, 17-40 at 24, 70-200 at 85 and used my nifty, and I reckon 24 is just a bit too wide for me, 35 is great, 50 is great, 85 is great for longer stuff....

^ Ah yeah Jim, i didnt read you post properly, i agree with your statement after all :) I wouldn't take primes out and about to cover an event, unless there was a specific need to have fast glass.

OT. I need a new HDD, getting full up and i seem to be taking hundreds of baby photos ;)

Haha, my advice with HDDs is to buy a primary drive and backup drive for every year, and then have an extra backup floating around for the current year off-site, keeping past years backups off site....

Good on you, would be well worth it :) I always laugh when I see baby pics of myself hehe.

More reason to get a prime ;) One day...

Want my rarely used nifty with hood?
Then I could maybe afford the sigma 50 and 85 1.8 and 35 :D

Grab a nifty, it works nicely on a 450D, cant go wrong for $130

Come on Ed :p;)

[fungry]

What is this?! I'm now your go-to person for your second hand stuff? pffftt.. XD
For the meantime, I think I will just stick to lighting accessories hehe.

[AdamC]

18-55 for sure, combined with a 580EX bounced off the ceiling with the white card up. ETTL w/FEC to taste. AF set to One Shot so that you have AF assist to compensate for the dim kit lens. Shoot in M mode - ISO 800, f/5.6, 1/100s or similar. Ought to get a bit of ambient in there if it's a dim pub etc. but still have everything be sharp/acceptably not-noisy. Even with a 400D you aren't going to be hampered by the noise at ISO 800, particularly not if you're just planning on small print/web usage.

28mm is too limiting - you'll always end up with people grabbing friends/randoms and the 3-person group is suddenly 6 and 28mm is too tight :p

Awesome, thanks Jim.

I was expecting everyone to vote for the 50/1.8, but I find 50mm rather too long (on a 1.6x) and worried about DoF if I open it up anyway.

[Mark]

Awesome, thanks Jim.

I was expecting everyone to vote for the 50/1.8, but I find 50mm rather too long (on a 1.6x) and worried about DoF if I open it up anyway.

Yeah, far too long for getting group shots in a crowded place like a nightclub...

What is this?! I'm now your go-to person for your second hand stuff? pffftt.. XD
For the meantime, I think I will just stick to lighting accessories hehe.

:p:lol:
You sure you don't want it? $90? :p:p

[fungry]

Yeah, far too long for getting group shots in a crowded place like a nightclub...



:p:lol:
You sure you don't want it? $90? :p:p
I'll pass for now ;)

[Jim G]

The joys of the internet...

http://www.extraordinarymommy.com/blog/are-you-kidding-me/stolen-picture/

[JustinLawrence]

Awesome, thanks Jim.

I was expecting everyone to vote for the 50/1.8, but I find 50mm rather too long (on a 1.6x) and worried about DoF if I open it up anyway.
Take the 50 1.8 along anyway, if you have a single subject (DJ or 2 people headshot etc) it will give you a much brighter background and more natural lighting coming through.
Also since your zoom is quite slow maybe consider running a long-ish shutter ie expose for background -1 stop and then freeze the subject with the flash (works best with bright background and subject in darker area) Anyways just food for thought.

I'll pass for now ;)
Do it! and if you don't like it, ill buy it off you for $90.

The joys of the internet...

http://www.extraordinarymommy.com/blog/are-you-kidding-me/stolen-picture/
0-o WOW. i knew they could do this, but never seen a real life example. I always downsize my images to 800 pix before uploading to facebook. I figure then at least they wont use it on a billboard or anything that needs high res.

[fungry]

The joys of the internet...

http://www.extraordinarymommy.com/blog/are-you-kidding-me/stolen-picture/
That is freaky hahah.
Take the 50 1.8 along anyway, if you have a single subject (DJ or 2 people headshot etc) it will give you a much brighter background and more natural lighting coming through.
Also since your zoom is quite slow maybe consider running a long-ish shutter ie expose for background -1 stop and then freeze the subject with the flash (works best with bright background and subject in darker area) Anyways just food for thought.


Do it! and if you don't like it, ill buy it off you for $90.


0-o WOW. i knew they could do this, but never seen a real life example. I always downsize my images to 800 pix before uploading to facebook. I figure then at least they wont use it on a billboard or anything that needs high res.
Lol!

[JustinLawrence]

A couple more baby Photos. Happy for any C&C.
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5003/img2820web.jpg

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/3950/img2882web2.jpg

[Jim G]

A couple more baby Photos. Happy for any C&C.




Spin the top one 90 degrees clockwise, my neck hurts now :p Very cute shot :)

[JustinLawrence]

Spin the top one 90 degrees clockwise, my neck hurts now :p Very cute shot :)

Thats the idea, i like to cause others pain ;)

[JustinLawrence]

I rotated it but the aspect didn't look right, so here the rotated and re cropped version, i think its better...
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/3204/img2820web2.jpg

[fungry]

Ahh this looks much better. I would also agree to the crop, without it would look rather odd. Nice DOF.

[ANGUS]

Some of my pics from todays protest rally in the city.

[ANGUS]

One more - This time outside the PMs office on Phillip Street. C&C welcomed

[Jim G]

One more - This time outside the PMs office on Phillip Street. C&C welcomed

I quite like this one. Interesting colour treatment too.

[fungry]

Great pictures Angus. Another opportunity missed :( If only it could be after the exams.
Did you boost clarity? I like how the pictures have become gritty especially the ground in the first one.

[S7000]

Was at Luna Park this avo for this friends kids 10th birthday.

http://www.members.optushome.com.au/prischlfam/IMG_5902%20copy.jpg

I have a headache. :lol:

I saw the Opera house all lit up too. I might head out tomorrow before it closes to check it all out.

[AdamC]

Spin the top one 90 degrees clockwise, my neck hurts now :p Very cute shot :)

Agreed.

I rotated it but the aspect didn't look right, so here the rotated and re cropped version, i think its better...


Agreed.

One more - This time outside the PMs office on Phillip Street. C&C welcomed

This is the pick of them for me. Nicely done.

[NicD]

Angus, love the last shot, PP is incredible.

Justin, very cute baby, lovely shot as well, also agreed second crop is better.

Ps. i hate exam revision :(

although one week and two days from now i will be finished with exams and starting work experience at a photography studio :D

[mcminty]

Ps. i hate exam revision :(

+1

At the moment I'm studying some pavement design. Totally over it... :confused:

[Old Fart]

One more - This time outside the PMs office on Phillip Street. C&C welcomed

I really like that.

[ANGUS]

I quite like this one. Interesting colour treatment too.

Thanks.

Great pictures Angus.

Thanks

This is the pick of them for me. Nicely done.

Thanks

Angus, love the last shot, PP is incredible

Thanks

I really like that.

Thanks

[Welby]

<edit> any motorsport fans pic the link between the models????


All Bathurst winners ;)

[JustinLawrence]

One more - This time outside the PMs office on Phillip Street. C&C welcomed
Spot on! Im liking the processing and the composition in these. I also like how none of the cops are looking at camera.
Was at Luna Park this avo for this friends kids 10th birthday.

I have a headache. :lol:

I saw the Opera house all lit up too. I might head out tomorrow before it closes to check it all out.
Nice shot, great separation from the background, very vibrant.

I REALLY wanted to get down to opera house before it closes (from memory it closes on 16th?) but then i had this interruption called a baby and havnt made it....

[S7000]

Spot on! Im liking the processing and the composition in these. I also like how none of the cops are looking at camera.

Nice shot, great separation from the background, very vibrant.

I REALLY wanted to get down to opera house before it closes (from memory it closes on 16th?) but then i had this interruption called a baby and havnt made it....

It all finishes up tomorrow night Justin. I Might have to miss the usual dinner.

[ANGUS]

It all finishes up tomorrow night Justin. I Might have to miss the usual dinner.

Ill go tomorrow night.

[tangcla]

I'm so tired. Been up since 5:30am and just got home at 1am. Long wedding.

One of my favourites from the reception:

[JustinLawrence]

I'm so tired. Been up since 5:30am and just got home at 1am. Long wedding.

One of my favourites from the reception:

Thats beaudifal! Im curious though, why are there guys going for the bouquet?

[ANGUS]

Anyone know much about print sizes? I want to print that cop photo up at a decent size but want to know what is the largest a 4111x2292pixels at 300dpi could print at nicely?

[Mark]

A couple more baby Photos. Happy for any C&C.




Aww, nice shots Justin :)

I rotated it but the aspect didn't look right, so here the rotated and re cropped version, i think its better...


Yeah, I also prefer it like that... The other way made me confused...

Some of my pics from todays protest rally in the city.
Nice shots mate

One more - This time outside the PMs office on Phillip Street. C&C welcomed
That one is really nice, how did you PP
Feels like one of my favourite plugins :p

Ps. i hate exam revision :(

Same :( I reckon I am feeling too laidback for the coming ones.... :confused:

Spot on! Im liking the processing and the composition in these. I also like how none of the cops are looking at camera.

Nice shot, great separation from the background, very vibrant.

I REALLY wanted to get down to opera house before it closes (from memory it closes on 16th?) but then i had this interruption called a baby and havnt made it....

What closes?
I am clueless :lol:

I'm so tired. Been up since 5:30am and just got home at 1am. Long wedding.

One of my favourites from the reception:

Really nice shot mate! was it ambient lighting or flash (looks like they had some decent lights)

Anyone know much about print sizes? I want to print that cop photo up at a decent size but want to know what is the largest a 4111x2292pixels at 300dpi could print at nicely?
You mean 300 ppi? then it is the resolution divided by 300 for you to have 300 pixels per inch of print....

although generally what I do to find out considering softness etc is zoom in on the screen until it looks just good, then measure the height of my screen (I always forget), then multiply by the pixels height of the image then divide by the pixels height of the screen, that will be the maximum height of the picture that looked good at whatever the ppi of your screen is and should get you in the ballpark for print....

Thats beaudifal! Im curious though, why are there guys going for the bouquet?

Good quesstion :lol:

In other news, I really hate systems projects breaking when you are trying to finish them.....

[ANGUS]

I think it is Kelsey Smith - Lean on Me as the base plus some sepia, contrast and sharpening presets. And its DPI according to the EXIF data. Any idea how large i could print that? What one is your favorite?

EDIT: Sorry i think it was Matt Klosowski's Surreal Edgy Effect (Dark or Really Dark) and then some edits from there. I used that on some of the others as well as the Kelsey Smith ones.

[Michael]

Angus, DPI is the correct term for printing... You could probably get away with 200dpi for printing that one.

At 300dpi you could print at 13.7" x 7.64". You really can stretch it. I think you'd be able to get away with printing 20" x 30" though and it't still look great.

[Welby]

Nice shot Clarence but if we could see the bouquet it would be better ;)

[tangcla]

Thats beaudifal! Im curious though, why are there guys going for the bouquet?
They were so drunk I think they were just mucking around. :p

Really nice shot mate! was it ambient lighting or flash (looks like they had some decent lights)


There was a videographer so I was able to use their hotlights to my advantage :)

[JustinLawrence]

Anyone know much about print sizes? I want to print that cop photo up at a decent size but want to know what is the largest a 4111x2292pixels at 300dpi could print at nicely?
Basic division.... pixels / dpi = print size
a couple of things i found handy: you can change the dpi in photoshop and it will calculate the canvas size for you. Also Digital works (where i print my photos usually) have a green, yellow, red light warning system when you choose a print size. so if you stick to green then you will have no probs.

Angus, DPI is the correct term for printing... You could probably get away with 200dpi for printing that one.

At 300dpi you could print at 13.7" x 7.64". You really can stretch it. I think you'd be able to get away with printing 20" x 30" though and it't still look great.
I agree 200 dpi is fine.
Seems like your image has a an unusual aspect ratio. i had a look on digitalworks and the closest match that does not give a resolution warning is 12 x 20 or 12 x 24 (both with a slight crop). But I reckon you could stretch it up to 20 x 36 (perfect fit) without any problems.

Nice shot Clarence but if we could see the bouquet it would be better ;)
I was going to suggest he photoshop it in... but i didnt want to get hurt ;)

[ANGUS]

Angus, DPI is the correct term for printing... You could probably get away with 200dpi for printing that one.

At 300dpi you could print at 13.7" x 7.64". You really can stretch it. I think you'd be able to get away with printing 20" x 30" though and it't still look great.

Thanks i think around 20x30 would be awesome...

I agree 200 dpi is fine.
Seems like your image has a an unusual aspect ratio. i had a look on digitalworks and the closest match that does not give a resolution warning is 12 x 20 or 12 x 24 (both with a slight crop). But I reckon you could stretch it up to 20 x 36 (perfect fit) without any problems.

Awesome, 20x36 it is :D

[S7000]

Nice shot Clarence. You're really getting into these weddings now it seems.

[Jim G]

Gah... TF got me!

Angus, I've printed an 8mp image from a 20D to 20x30" and it's perfect. If you stick your face right up against it you can see it's a little soft but viewing it from 1' away or more and it's fantastic. You should be able to blow that one up plenty big.

[fungry]

Do any stores in Australia sell Lumopro umbrella swivels? Vanbar Imaging was a slight headache to look at, most of the products don't have images :(
Gah... TF got me!

Angus, I've printed an 8mp image from a 20D to 20x30" and it's perfect. If you stick your face right up against it you can see it's a little soft but viewing it from 1' away or more and it's fantastic. You should be able to blow that one up plenty big.
Hahaha

[Mark]

Angus, DPI is the correct term for printing... You could probably get away with 200dpi for printing that one.

At 300dpi you could print at 13.7" x 7.64". You really can stretch it. I think you'd be able to get away with printing 20" x 30" though and it't still look great.

Nonono dpi is just for inkjet printers, and is how many dots per inch, not pixels, what we are talking about is pixels per inch, the rest is right though :)

They were so drunk I think they were just mucking around. :p



There was a videographer so I was able to use their hotlights to my advantage :)

:lol:

That's good, must have been a pretty serious videographer! :)

Gah... TF got me!

Angus, I've printed an 8mp image from a 20D to 20x30" and it's perfect. If you stick your face right up against it you can see it's a little soft but viewing it from 1' away or more and it's fantastic. You should be able to blow that one up plenty big.

Yeah, also angus you should be able to print it even larger if you consider how far away you might be viewing it from.... a general guide for ppi vs viewing distance is 3484/viewing distance =ppi and then also consider the larger it is the further the viewing distance....
Also remeber genuine fractals can do a better job than just lowering the ppi alone...
Should be able to blow it up plenty big...

Do any stores in Australia sell Lumopro umbrella swivels? Vanbar Imaging was a slight headache to look at, most of the products don't have images :(

Hahaha

Quality camera maybe? or imagemelbourne, but their site is even more horrid, hey you know a bit about computers... Right, why don't you offer to design a new site for them in exchange for some lighting gear :p:lol:

[Jim G]

Nonono dpi is just for inkjet printers, and is how many dots per inch, not pixels, what we are talking about is pixels per inch, the rest is right though :)



:lol:

That's good, must have been a pretty serious videographer! :)



Yeah, also angus you should be able to print it even larger if you consider how far away you might be viewing it from.... a general guide for ppi vs viewing distance is 3484/viewing distance =ppi and then also consider the larger it is the further the viewing distance....
Also remeber genuine fractals can do a better job than just lowering the ppi alone...
Should be able to blow it up plenty big...



Quality camera maybe? or imagemelbourne, but their site is even more horrid, hey you know a bit about computers... Right, why don't you offer to design a new site for them in exchange for some lighting gear :p:lol:

Hey.... did the TF get you too or has that been there for a while?

[Mark]

Hey.... did the TF get you too or has that been there for a while?

No, i don't have one, do I?\

Edit: Dammit, me too!

You know what, where the hell is collin now!?

[Jim G]

No, i don't have one, do I?\

Edit: Dammit, me too!

You know what, where the hell is collin now!?


It was that ultimate thread... :p

[tangcla]

That's good, must have been a pretty serious videographer! :)

Yeah, seems it. Big expensive video camera, by the looks of things :p

My photos from yesterday's all-day shoot are 40.4GB on my computer. sigh.

[fungry]

Quality camera maybe? or imagemelbourne, but their site is even more horrid, hey you know a bit about computers... Right, why don't you offer to design a new site for them in exchange for some lighting gear :p:lol:
As much as I would, I think the guy is reluctant as portrayed in Strobist Aus... lol. As far as I can tell, they don't sell Lumopro swivels. Likewise for Quality Camera.

Jim, where'd you get them from?? MPEX?

Also, heads up, I may be heading down to Melbourne for a week after my exams for work wooot.

[Jim G]

As much as I would, I think the guy is reluctant as portrayed in Strobist Aus... lol. As far as I can tell, they don't sell Lumopro swivels.

Jim, where'd you get them from?? MPEX?

Also, heads up, I may be heading down to Melbourne for a week after my exams for work wooot.


Mine came from MPEX. I have yet to find anywhere else that stocks them... which is a shame because I like them a heckuvalot more than the bulkier plastic ones.

[mickeyjuice]

Do any stores in Australia sell Lumopro umbrella swivels? Vanbar Imaging was a slight headache to look at, most of the products don't have images :(

Best thing to do with Vanbar is to call them, and explain you're calling them is because their website is so atrocious.

Lumopro is the MPEX housebrand so it's unlikely that anyone else would sell them.

Quality camera maybe? or imagemelbourne, but their site is even more horrid, hey you know a bit about computers... Right, why don't you offer to design a new site for them in exchange for some lighting gear :p:lol:

Good luck - Leo thinks it's wonderful, despite it being something only a five-year-old would be proud of.

[tangcla]

Best thing to do with Vanbar is to call them, and explain you're calling them is because their website is so atrocious.Ed, let me know. I will be ordering from Vanbar soon.
Good luck - Leo thinks it's wonderful, despite it being something only a five-year-old would be proud of.

LOL - nicely put :p

[ed.]

No1 is out shooting today?

[Jim G]

No1 is out shooting today?

I just finished wet cleaning my sensor so I can go out and do some landscapes after lunch... darn thing had spots all over it.

[S7000]

Best thing to do with Vanbar is to call them, and explain you're calling them is because their website is so atrocious.

Good luck - Leo thinks it's wonderful, despite it being something only a five-year-old would be proud of.

Good call on this one. And definitely agree on the user unfriendly I.M site. Once you actually find their products it gets a little easier, but it's still shocking.

No1 is out shooting today?

Later tonight I will be. If it doesn't rain, It's too cold to head out in the rain.

I just finished wet cleaning my sensor so I can go out and do some landscapes after lunch... darn thing had spots all over it.

That reminds me, I need to clean mine.

[fungry]

Ed, let me know. I will be ordering from Vanbar soon.

Hmmm, sure thing. Trying to figure if I should or not because I don't know if I'm heading down to Melbourne for sure. By then it would already be too late for you to order I suppose (late this week/early next).
Mine came from MPEX. I have yet to find anywhere else that stocks them... which is a shame because I like them a heckuvalot more than the bulkier plastic ones.
Would you be ordering from MPEX anytime soon? :D

[tangcla]

Hmmm, sure thing. Trying to figure if I should or not because I don't know if I'm heading down to Melbourne for sure. By then it would already be too late for you to order I suppose (late this week/early next).

No, I can wait till then. Let me know, can go dowh to the shop with you :)

[Jim G]

Hmmm, sure thing. Trying to figure if I should or not because I don't know if I'm heading down to Melbourne for sure. By then it would already be too late for you to order I suppose (late this week/early next).

Would you be ordering from MPEX anytime soon? :D

Heh, I wouldn't mind another nano stand and another couple of Lumopro swivels but I'm about to take a week off work to head back down to Newcastle so I probably shouldn't be spending any money :p

[mickeyjuice]

No1 is out shooting today?

We're heading into Melbourne soon. Kinda weird - the planned shoot got called off due to injury to the subject, so we're going into town. Problem is, I was going past work to get my lighting kit, so I've got nothing with me at all. Oh well, just use Clarry's new PWs, I guess :-)

I've got my body, a couple of lenses and 1 550EX. Man, I can't wait to move so I have got room to keep my gear at home...

[NicD]

No1 is out shooting today?

I was this morning at my dads soccer game, will post tax later on.

No, I can wait till then. Let me know, can go dowh to the shop with you :)

Heh, I wouldn't mind another nano stand and another couple of Lumopro swivels but I'm about to take a week off work to head back down to Newcastle so I probably shouldn't be spending any money :p

I wish i was in melbourne, would be good to meet all of you and be able to have expert advice when i needed it!

[NicD]

quick question.

I need to take some photo's of my pool table which we are selling.

does anyone have any suggestions on how i can shoot it?

There wont be a good background so it may be quite hard to make it look good....

any help would be great :)

[mickeyjuice]

I wish i was in melbourne, would be good to meet all of you and be able to have expert advice when i needed it!

Ahhh, yeah. Expert, yes, that's it.

[BOSS]

quick question.

I need to take some photo's of my pool table which we are selling.

does anyone have any suggestions on how i can shoot it?

There wont be a good background so it may be quite hard to make it look good....

any help would be great :)
A 12gauge is good....oh sorry,how about you hang a sheet behind it or similar.
Ahhh, yeah. Expert, yes, that's it.

LOL,LOL,LOL we all know the meaning of expert...............

[NicD]

Ahhh, yeah. Expert, yes, that's it.

ok good point, well atleast with people that know more then me :D

A 12gauge is good....oh sorry,how about you hang a sheet behind it or similar.


That would be alot of fun, but dont think my dad would be to happy with that :(

Not a bad idea with the sheet, i will try that out and see how it goes.

cheers

[mickeyjuice]

quick question.

I need to take some photo's of my pool table which we are selling.

does anyone have any suggestions on how i can shoot it?

There wont be a good background so it may be quite hard to make it look good....

any help would be great :)

You've got a couple of flashes - if you've got a way of triggering them both, I'd get the shutter speed up, the aperture closed down (to underexpose the background), nice hard light (no umbrellas, and maybe some grids or gobos) and go to it. Should get good light on the table and nothing around it.

[fungry]

No, I can wait till then. Let me know, can go dowh to the shop with you :)
I'll let you know when I can confirm I will be going to Melb.
Heh, I wouldn't mind another nano stand and another couple of Lumopro swivels but I'm about to take a week off work to head back down to Newcastle so I probably shouldn't be spending any money :p
Haha, does that mean anytime soon??

Lol I'm so bad XD

[NicD]

You've got a couple of flashes - if you've got a way of triggering them both, I'd get the shutter speed up, the aperture closed down (to underexpose the background), nice hard light (no umbrellas, and maybe some grids or gobos) and go to it. Should get good light on the table and nothing around it.

Thanks Mic, ill give that a shot, is that like what Jim did with his new mac pro the other day?

[NicD]

My tax for today and also a new thread

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=8105597#post8105597

http://ndavphotography.smugmug.com/photos/562954648_XafqM-M.jpg

C&C welcomed here or in the thread.

cheers.

[ed.]

Nice shots Nic. You need a 300mm in your bag :p

Any comments on this selection?
http://photo.edwardhor.com/portfolio/people

[NicD]

Nice shots Nic. You need a 300mm in your bag :p

Any comments on this selection?
http://photo.edwardhor.com/portfolio/people

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: at your 300mm

Very nice portfolio, although not sure why the photo's of the driver are in there?

[fungry]

Ed, can see the light stand leg in the third one :O Not bad though

[ed.]

Nice find Ed, I'll have to fix it hehe

Thanks!
Ed

[AdamC]

Very nice portfolio, although not sure why the photo's of the driver are in there?

Because he's a person?

[NicD]

Because he's a person?

True,
Yeah sorry i thought it was a "model" portfolio, i didnt realise it was people in general.

[The Moose]

I wish my family weren't so tense about their photos being taken. I took my 1D + 24 prime to a family lunch today and the only one who didn't say anything when I pointed the camera at them was my 6 month old nephew! I like catching people off guard though :lol:

Anyone else wish they had friends and family that didn't care about their photos being taken and let you shoot without being looked at and noticed? :p

[Fut]

I wish my family weren't so tense about their photos being taken. I took my 1D + 24 prime to a family lunch today and the only one who didn't say anything when I pointed the camera at them was my 6 month old nephew! I like catching people off guard though :lol:

Anyone else wish they had friends and family that didn't care about their photos being taken and let you shoot without being looked at and noticed? :p


I have a stunning looking female friend that won't let me take any shots (clothed/unclothed) of her either :(

[Welby]

Bit of tax from today.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3660/3623820265_679a02cd25_o.jpg

[The Moose]

Nice shot, Mark. I would have gone for a bit more light around the dash but it's still very nice. Painting or strobist?

I have a stunning looking female friend that won't let me take any shots (clothed/unclothed) of her either :(

Well in this case it might be the approach that's your downfall :p

[JustinLawrence]

quick question.

I need to take some photo's of my pool table which we are selling.

does anyone have any suggestions on how i can shoot it?

There wont be a good background so it may be quite hard to make it look good....

any help would be great :)


You could try something like this, sans the cat.
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7232/img6673edit2032.jpg
edit: it was lit with 1 large softbox.

[JustinLawrence]

Bit of tax from today.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3660/3623820265_679a02cd25_o.jpg

Fro the shadows it looks like 2 light sources then maybe a 3rd to light the background? Maybe you should try using the strobes in a cross light config, that way you will get more even lighting on the car, unless of course this was the effect you were after..?
I like the garage or whatever it is, very clean.

[mickeyjuice]

I wish my family weren't so tense about their photos being taken. I took my 1D + 24 prime to a family lunch today and the only one who didn't say anything when I pointed the camera at them was my 6 month old nephew! I like catching people off guard though :lol:

A 70-200 might be better for that :-)

[AdamC]

Anyone else wish they had friends and family that didn't care about their photos being taken and let you shoot without being looked at and noticed? :p

Hell yeah. It's the reason I've done very little people stuff and tend to shy away from bringing the camera out at family gatherings. Even if they're not outright unwilling to be photographed, their reactions tend to make me feel very self-conscious about it.

[Welby]

3 flashes, camera left and right and the 3rd on the wall behind. Just a local buildings loading dock.

[Backflipboy]

Anyone else wish they had friends and family that didn't care about their photos being taken and let you shoot without being looked at and noticed? :p
If I just turn up at a gathering with a camera, the adults tend to look away when I try to take photos, but the kids can't get enough of it.

[The Moose]

A 70-200 might be better for that :-)

I was going to take my 70-200 but I knew it would be indoors so it would be impossible to use, I couldn't afford the fancy IS model :p

Hell yeah. It's the reason I've done very little people stuff and tend to shy away from bringing the camera out at family gatherings. Even if they're not outright unwilling to be photographed, their reactions tend to make me feel very self-conscious about it.

Exactly that. I love capturing people just talking, doing whatever, catching up with relatives but no one's interested. My nanna turns 80 this year and we're trying to organise where it's going to be and all that because she's lived in Perth and different parts of Queensland so there's family and friends coming over. I did want to take some gear just to try and get some shots of the faces during the reunions and conversations but now I don't think it's worth it.

If I just turn up at a gathering with a camera, the adults tend to look away when I try to take photos, but the kids can't get enough of it.

I'm gonna be waiting a while for kids to be at family gatherings. The youngest will probably only be about 12 unless some turn up that I don't know about. And the 12 year old isn't one who's very interesting anyway, if I'm honest :lol:

[fungry]

I can't really comment since I know I would turn away from the camera :|
Quite a number of my friends would do pictures but not in front of a DSLR. They love their P&S :| Then again, not many know I have a DSLR I think ;)

[BOSS]

Moose do it anyway you'd be surprised how many later on will say why did'nt we take some photos.

[fungry]

Moose do it anyway you'd be surprised how many later on will say why did'nt we take some photos.
That is so true! Especially regarding family events.

[AdamC]

Exactly that. I love capturing people just talking, doing whatever, catching up with relatives but no one's interested. My nanna turns 80 this year and we're trying to organise where it's going to be and all that because she's lived in Perth and different parts of Queensland so there's family and friends coming over. I did want to take some gear just to try and get some shots of the faces during the reunions and conversations but now I don't think it's worth it.

The funny thing is how different it is in other settings - like parties or nightclubs. Maybe it's a young person thing, but I took my camera to a party at a local hotel on the weekend and people were "oh hey come take a photo of us!" and will happily smile for you if you randomly point the camera at them.

Moose do it anyway you'd be surprised how many later on will say why did'nt we take some photos.

In my experience, it's usually more like "oh god don't I look awful can you delete that immediately plskthxbye"

[The Moose]

I can't really comment since I know I would turn away from the camera :|
Quite a number of my friends would do pictures but not in front of a DSLR. They love their P&S :| Then again, not many know I have a DSLR I think ;)

That's the worst thing. They all want the myspace shots from their point and shoot but as soon as they notice me trying to get some candid shots, they tell me to p*ss off :lol:

Moose do it anyway you'd be surprised how many later on will say why did'nt we take some photos.

The funny thing is how different it is in other settings - like parties or nightclubs. Maybe it's a young person thing, but I took my camera to a party at a local hotel on the weekend and people were "oh hey come take a photo of us!" and will happily smile for you if you randomly point the camera at them.

In my experience, it's usually more like "oh god don't I look awful can you delete that immediately plskthxbye"

Just like I said up there, they'll happily take their own myspace shots or ask you for some set up shots but if you catch them off guard they crack it and tell you they don't want photos. I should sit out in the city more often and just get people as they walk along :lol:

[amsm]

Hell yeah. It's the reason I've done very little people stuff and tend to shy away from bringing the camera out at family gatherings. Even if they're not outright unwilling to be photographed, their reactions tend to make me feel very self-conscious about it.

An SLR with a big lens can be a bit intimidating. I'd reckon in a lot of cases, you wouldn't get the same reaction with a P&S.

[AdamC]

An SLR with a big lens can be a bit intimidating. I'd reckon in a lot of cases, you wouldn't get the same reaction with a P&S.

I think you're spot on, but I have a feeling it goes beyond just being intimidated by the size of it. I'm not sure what it is, maybe P&S = 'fun, casual candid happy snaps between friends' and SLR = somehow more serious and it's not fun any more. Like bringing an NRL player with you to a family game of footy in the park.

Funny how small groups will happy sit around taking silly photos of each other on their phones, but point a real camera at them and they go all shy.

[alexanderGARDNER]

My Tax from this weekend's Strobist Meeting.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3619/3625006084_00271bb411_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3628/3624193633_0029d9a492_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2440/3625008292_e4314d2692_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3334/3624191293_a9e8c85c62_o.jpg

[ed.]

I think you're spot on, but I have a feeling it goes beyond just being intimidated by the size of it. I'm not sure what it is, maybe P&S = 'fun, casual candid happy snaps between friends' and SLR = somehow more serious and it's not fun any more. Like bringing an NRL player with you to a family game of footy in the park.

Funny how small groups will happy sit around taking silly photos of each other on their phones, but point a real camera at them and they go all shy.

Dunno, my family/relo's are comfortable and even get together for group shots etc. Maybe it's an asian thing.

[fungry]

Very nice Justal.
First one, pretty dramatic. What was the light setup on that one?
Second one is good too. The harsh light on right and left delivers.

[amsm]

My Tax from this weekend's Strobist Meeting.



#2 for me. the others are good, but that's the best, I think.

[alexanderGARDNER]

Very nice Justal.
First one, pretty dramatic. What was the light setup on that one?
Second one is good too. The harsh light on right and left delivers.

Thanks folks. Couldn't have done it without Jon's gear and our group dynamics.

"2 SB800s fired from above through a diffusion panel. White reflector underneath for fill. Another two gridded and CTO gelled SB800s from the rear. All flash units triggered by Pocket Wizards."

[mickeyjuice]

Nice work Al. Nearly as good as today's will be, I'm sure.

[ANGUS]

Updated my Sportsshooter profile. www.sportsshooter.com/angusm

[tangcla]

I wish my family weren't so tense about their photos being taken. I took my 1D + 24 prime to a family lunch today and the only one who didn't say anything when I pointed the camera at them was my 6 month old nephew! I like catching people off guard though :lol:
It was like that at the reception last night, the oldies refused to let me take group photos of them. So I just used my 70-200 on the 1D2n and sniped them from a distance :p

[Michael]

Our meets over the last two days were awesome! Thanks for having me guys!

[DAdeGroot]

My Tax from this weekend's Strobist Meeting.


#1 is a wee soft on the face, looks like focus ended up on the hair.

Pretty decent effort all round though, very edgy lighting in #2.

[alexanderGARDNER]

#1 is a wee soft on the face, looks like focus ended up on the hair.

Pretty decent effort all round though, very edgy lighting in #2.

Yeap. Her face ended up being closer during the flick than I anticipated. You'll also notice a lightened strip near her hairline from pulling back beyond the edge of the shoot through panel we were using.

Still, she made for one of the more impressive shots of the day. I am looking to upgrade my body though. The 400's AF is a let down.:confused:

[tangcla]

What's the going price for a 1D Mark III?

[ed.]

What's the going price for a 1D Mark III?

What's the going price for a MKIIN? :lol:

[tangcla]

What's the going price for a MKIIN? :lol:

"looking for offers ove $3000" ;) haha

I don't know, I was thinking maybe $2200-2400. Fully boxed, about 40K actuations, second owner. No scratches, managed to find a screen protector for it (these are rare as!) and put it on as soon as I got it.

[mickeyjuice]

Our meets over the last two days were awesome! Thanks for having me guys!

Was all good. Shame about your curfew though, we had awesome souvlakis @ Hollywood Palace :-)

What's the going price for a 1D Mark III?

Same as yesterday, $3500+ :-)

[tangcla]

Was all good. Shame about your curfew though, we had awesome souvlakis @ Hollywood Palace :-)

We will definitely be organising more kebab/souvlaki nights in the near future ;)

[alexanderGARDNER]

Oh yeah. Souvlaki it is.

[fungry]

Sounds like you guys had fun.. Mmmm

[tangcla]

My 85L is scheduled for delivery today :)

[alexanderGARDNER]

I got my business cards today....flashes should follow later this week.

[NicD]

I got my business cards today....flashes should follow later this week.

Nice Al, who did you get them printed through?

Is there a design we could see?

I plan on designing mine next week once i have time from exams finishing.

1 exam down, three to go!

[S7000]

I got my 50mm Yashica today! It's tiny!!! Adapter next week, and then pics after that. Wooo!

[alexanderGARDNER]

I'll grab a shot or 2 tonight of the cards. Really simple design as I needed something to hand out before I get a website up and running with the appropiate URL.

[Welby]

Got my new tripod today and man is it better than the $30 thing i was using :lol:

Got the Slik 700DX PRO legs and a manfrotto 486RC2 ballhead. I Feel so much safer about leaving the camera on it than the old thing.

[tangcla]

How are the Slik tripods? I keep wondering if the newer, lighter tripods these days are worth getting - the 055MF4 is a few years old and even with the new 055CXPRO4, it has shaved an extra 500g of weight.
However the weight problem is mainly in the head...

[alexanderGARDNER]

Buying domains. What's the deal with that?
Anyone dealt with sedo.com?

[NicD]

Buying domains. What's the deal with that?
Anyone dealt with sedo.com?

Al, i use jumba for my domain

http://www.jumba.com.au (http://www.jumba.com.au/)

they are Australian and they have worked well for me

[mickeyjuice]

How are the Slik tripods? I keep wondering if the newer, lighter tripods these days are worth getting - the 055MF4 is a few years old and even with the new 055CXPRO4, it has shaved an extra 500g of weight.
However the weight problem is mainly in the head...

I've got the 700PRO legs in storage - here in a month or so. Nice to use, but reasonably heavy.

Buying domains. What's the deal with that?
Anyone dealt with sedo.com?

I use enetica.com.au.

[Welby]

How are the Slik tripods? I keep wondering if the newer, lighter tripods these days are worth getting - the 055MF4 is a few years old and even with the new 055CXPRO4, it has shaved an extra 500g of weight.
However the weight problem is mainly in the head...


This thing so far seems awesome. Built like a tank and gets nice and low for under half of the price of a manfrotto similar model. Mickey you need to get to the gym mate there not that bad :p

[tangcla]

I'm using godaddy for www.tangcla.com and unlimited-spaces for www.tangcla.com.au .

[tupper]

GoDaddy has a good rep for domains, they always have good deals also.

[Welby]

I use Godaddy for mine.

[wakko]

I use go daddy for my international domains (which it has)... and then shop around for AU domains... i've used netregistry, melbourneit, jumba, smartyhost, and a few others that I can't remember off the top of my head.

[tangcla]

I got home and there was a big parcel on my front porch, much the size that a lens would arrive in.

I got another big parcel on my front porch, much the size that a lens would arrive in.

[fungry]

I got another big parcel on my front porch, much the size that a lens would arrive in.
Lmao. Oh oh, unpacking pictures? :D Or have you already ripped the box apart and mounted that baby.

[tupper]

I got another big parcel on my front porch, much the size that a lens would arrive in.

Its just junk mail, send it my way and i'll dispose of it..

[tangcla]

Lmao. Oh oh, unpacking pictures? :D Or have you already ripped the box apart and mounted that baby.
More or less :lol: can definitely recommend James (cineraceus) as a great seller. Overkill bubblewrap ftw :lol:

[tangcla]

Its just junk mail, send it my way and i'll dispose of it..
haaha, f##k off, someone over in your country has a lens of mine, retrieve that for me and you can have it :)

[tupper]

haaha, f##k off, someone over in your country has a lens of mine, retrieve that for me and you can have it :)

Really now.. I can have it? :lol:

[BOSS]

@ justal,Love shots 1&3 the way the hair flows out and the lighting although I don't know that up the nose is a good angle 4 I like the mood as for 2 the finger pointing detracts from it.

[tangcla]

Really now.. I can have it? :lol:

If you can find the guy in Indonesia who has it (you have his alleged phone number) it's yours ;)

[ANGUS]

More or less :lol: can definitely recommend James (cineraceus) as a great seller. Overkill bubblewrap ftw :lol:

Yup, he is great.

[tangcla]

Is anyone interested in buying an 85mm f/1.8 with lens hood, in box? Immac.

[alexanderGARDNER]

Is anyone interested in buying an 85mm f/1.8 with lens hood, in box? Immac.

Clarry....pssst.

[mickeyjuice]

Clarry....pssst.

He is?

BTW Al, as usual, I'm reminding you to change yer sig :-)

[JustinLawrence]

My 85L is scheduled for delivery today :)

Damn you! any trips up to syd planned? ;)
btw where did you get it from and what did it cost you?

[tangcla]

Damn you! any trips up to syd planned? ;)
btw where did you get it from and what did it cost you?

31st of July, 1st of August, I should be up in Sydney. I got it from here, $2050 delivered :)

Here's two shots with the 85L. One is at f/2, one is at f/8.

[AdamC]

Buying domains. What's the deal with that?
Anyone dealt with sedo.com?

I've been using namecheap.com for years, and been very happy with them (non-.au domains.)

Is anyone interested in buying an 85mm f/1.8 with lens hood, in box? Immac.

Did I miss something, or are you selling it the same day you got it?

[mickeyjuice]

Did I miss something, or are you selling it the same day you got it?

1.2 =! 1.8 :-)