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tangcla
3rd of July 2009 (Fri), 17:45
Last question (Im sure you are getting sick of them by now)....is it better then xp?

Also im on a laptop with a sata hdd which needs a driver. Does windows 7 have it in the install?

I'd say it's much better than XP. But then again, I liked Vista, so take that how you will... :p
So your laptop is running in SATA AHCI mode, it would come with a driver however I would still recommend you install the Intel Matrix Storage Manager driver (or whoever your chipset manufacturer is).

Old Fart
3rd of July 2009 (Fri), 18:25
Well it is Friday night and there must be a party somewhere or a good pub with band etc.


Pub had local final of Miss V8 Supergirl, with both league games on as well. :cool:

brenno
3rd of July 2009 (Fri), 20:40
Pub had local final of Miss V8 Supergirl, with both league games on as well. :cool:

Can you say "HEAVEN"... ;););)

Highlight_Photography
3rd of July 2009 (Fri), 21:53
Just installed Windows 7 RC...Wow Wow Wow!

tangcla
3rd of July 2009 (Fri), 22:05
Just installed Windows 7 RC...Wow Wow Wow!
RC? You're so behind. :p

BOSS
3rd of July 2009 (Fri), 22:09
Pub had local final of Miss V8 Supergirl, with both league games on as well. :cool:

Pics or ban
Can you say "HEAVEN"... ;););)

"HEAVEN". BOSS wanders off muttering under breath about 'Old Fart'(lucky bastard,damn,!#@$%&^**((

The Moose
3rd of July 2009 (Fri), 22:18
RC? You're so behind. :p

I've still got RC build 7100 from when I first installed it :p Can you upgrade to whatever you're using, no clean install?

Highlight_Photography
3rd of July 2009 (Fri), 22:21
Whats the latest one then?

Mines 7100

tangcla
3rd of July 2009 (Fri), 22:30
Yeah you can upgrade all the way up. There's a bit of a kink when it comes to upgrading to 7264, but upgrades all the way up to 7260 are transparent.

brenno
3rd of July 2009 (Fri), 22:36
Windows, Shmindows....

OS X FTW!!! :cool::cool::cool:

Highlight_Photography
3rd of July 2009 (Fri), 22:37
Yeah you can upgrade all the way up. There's a bit of a kink when it comes to upgrading to 7264, but upgrades all the way up to 7260 are transparent.
Gotch Ya ;)

Ta

brenno
3rd of July 2009 (Fri), 22:38
Anyone want a Lens case: LZ1324 - Suits both 70-200 2.8's, 100-400, 28-300, 180L macro.

$55 posted and I'll throw in a Transcend 2Gb 120x CF card too.

The Moose
3rd of July 2009 (Fri), 22:48
Anyone want a Lens case: LZ1324 - Suits both 70-200 2.8's, 100-400, 28-300, 180L macro.

$55 posted and I'll throw in a Transcend 2Gb 120x CF card too.


I might sell mine too if I can get a quick $50 for it :p

tangcla
3rd of July 2009 (Fri), 22:51
Windows, Shmindows....

OS X FTW!!! :cool::cool::cool:

Says the guy who is running a Windows Mobile device... :rolleyes: :p

You'll never get my iPhone! NEVARRR!!

(give me a few more weeks maybe)

brenno
3rd of July 2009 (Fri), 22:57
I might sell mine too if I can get a quick $50 for it :p

This one is surplus to my needs, I have one for my 70-200 still. I think they are around $80-$90 new, so $50 seems fair. Plus, I'm throwing in a CF card too. ;)

Says the guy who is running a Windows Mobile device... :rolleyes: :p

You'll never get my iPhone! NEVARRR!!

(give me a few more weeks maybe)

C'mon Claz, you know you want some HTC Touch HD goodness. :p

At least I'm not the only one though... I think Mic just got an iPhone, and he hates OS X. Maybe I should just swap with him. ;)

AdamC
3rd of July 2009 (Fri), 23:02
C'mon Claz, you know you want some HTC Touch HD goodness. :p

HTC, blergh. Won't touch an HTC ever again.

Highlight_Photography
3rd of July 2009 (Fri), 23:06
HTC, blergh. Won't touch an HTC ever again.
Any reaons? My friend is looking at getting one.

Im happy with my Nokia E65 :)

mickeyjuice
3rd of July 2009 (Fri), 23:09
RC? You're so behind. :p
Majorly :-)
Windows, Shmindows....

OS X FTW!!! :cool::cool::cool:
I own both ... anyone want to buy a 6-month-old MBP?

At least I'm not the only one though... I think Mic just got an iPhone, and he hates OS X. Maybe I should just swap with him. ;)

I've had an iPhone for a year - I've just upgraded to the 3GS. Major improvement, TBH.

AdamC
3rd of July 2009 (Fri), 23:12
Any reaons? My friend is looking at getting one.

We have about 10 Touch Duals at work, and every one of them except one has been back for repair, several of them two and three times. Just rubbish.

Highlight_Photography
3rd of July 2009 (Fri), 23:16
We have about 10 Touch Duals at work, and every one of them except one has been back for repair, several of them two and three times. Just rubbish.
Sounds worse then a Motorola...I had nothing but problems with Motorola :(

The Moose
3rd of July 2009 (Fri), 23:20
As much as I'd love an iPhone, my Nokia E71 is REALLY good. It's what's kept me from actually already having an iPhone, I think. I had one of the Motorola V3x's... we had two in the family actually. They were both so slow and one just stopped working altogether, the other just got worse and worse. I don't know how they ever sold any phones.

This one is surplus to my needs, I have one for my 70-200 still. I think they are around $80-$90 new, so $50 seems fair. Plus, I'm throwing in a CF card too. ;)
I never use mine anyway so I guess it's the same. You're throwing in a 2GB card because the 5D2 has such big files :p

AdamC
3rd of July 2009 (Fri), 23:30
Sounds worse then a Motorola...I had nothing but problems with Motorola :(

Well, funny story about that. We had a bunch of new Motorola Qs at first - awesome phones when you get a good one, but 90% of ours were faulty right out of the box - same buttons just don't work, etc. Kicked up a stink about it and Telstra replaced them all with the Touch Duals, which turned out to be at least as bad. Fast forward a year or so, I still have the Qs sacked up in the corner, and I find out that the faults we had with them can be fixed with a hard reset...doh

As much as I'd love an iPhone, my Nokia E71 is REALLY good. It's what's kept me from actually already having an iPhone, I think. I had one of the Motorola V3x's... we had two in the family actually. They were both so slow and one just stopped working altogether, the other just got worse and worse. I don't know how they ever sold any phones.


Motorola used to be beyond reproach, don't know about now. In any case, now I've got an iPhone, all WinMo phones look stupid to me. Won't be going back, ever.

Collin85
3rd of July 2009 (Fri), 23:33
iPhones FTW!

Collin85
3rd of July 2009 (Fri), 23:35
As much as I'd love an iPhone, my Nokia E71 is REALLY good. It's what's kept me from actually already having an iPhone, I think.

I went through the same thing a couple of months ago.. it was either the E71 or the iPhone. I went for the iPhone having decided there were too many features on the E71 I'd probably never end up touching. I've been very happy with the iPhone so far - I'm actually surprised how much I've been impressed with it.

The Moose
3rd of July 2009 (Fri), 23:40
I went through the same thing a couple of months ago.. it was either the E71 or the iPhone. I went for the iPhone having decided there were too many features on the E71 I'd probably never end up touching. I've been very happy with the iPhone so far - I'm actually surprised how much I've been impressed with it.

The only reason I have the E71 over the iPhone now is because it was $0 upfront. My parents didn't want me spending money on handset repayments (I was saving for my 70-200 :lol:) so I settled for it. I only really use the Wi-Fi but I like using the phone that much that if I really want an iPhone, I'll just get an iPod touch :p It's also built solidly for how thin it is.

That's not to say I wouldn't have loved the iPhone though :lol:

S7000
3rd of July 2009 (Fri), 23:50
Then grab a coldie and kickback and watch the league.

The league bloooooooooooooooows. I like the idea of a drink on a quiet night in though. :lol:



Colon, you reckon you gonna make the orgy?

I'm guessing he orgy is the Sydney meet? No changes while I was away?

Pub had local final of Miss V8 Supergirl, with both league games on as well. :cool:

Why would you even mention the league?

Can you say "HEAVEN"... ;););)

Easy there Brenno.

iPhones FTW!

I think once I can upgrade my current phone i'm gonna go for an iphone. I still have 10 months in contract, so I'll see how I go.

Ps. The snow was great! It was an epic adventure, drinks were cold, food was plentiful and the slopes were white! 3 solid days of fun. The drive home was done in record time too. Heh heh.

llenuts
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 00:13
iPhones FTW!


Nokia N97 FTW more like it.

Picked one up yesterday. Awesome piece of technology. Not as game/app friendly as the iPhone just yet. But for the technonerds like me, its perfect.

Can tell it's be designed for use, and not a fashion statement...

The Moose
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 00:22
Nokia N97 FTW more like it.

Picked one up yesterday. Awesome piece of technology. Not as game/app friendly as the iPhone just yet. But for the technonerds like me, its perfect.

Can tell it's be designed for use, and not a fashion statement...

Nice! It looks like a great phone. My mate was gonna get one but his N96 contract doesn't run out for a while still. I never liked the N96, feels so cheap and the "features" never appealed to me.

llenuts
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 00:26
Nice! It looks like a great phone. My mate was gonna get one but his N96 contract doesn't run out for a while still. I never liked the N96, feels so cheap and the "features" never appealed to me.


I considered the N96 when it first was around, but it also never appealed to me.

I've been living with an N70 for the past few years so its quite an upgrade to move onto the N97. So far, so good too.

alexanderGARDNER
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 00:26
For you bike and race fans...

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/mcy/usgp/2009/video/video_office.aspx

mickeyjuice
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 00:28
Nokia N97 FTW more like it.

Picked one up yesterday. Awesome piece of technology. Not as game/app friendly as the iPhone just yet. But for the technonerds like me, its perfect.

Can tell it's be designed for use, and not a fashion statement...

So it's like the iPhone, then. Excellent, everyone's happy.

llenuts
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 00:30
So it's like the iPhone, then. Excellent, everyone's happy.

In the way that they both make and receive phone calls and messages, yes.

Old Fart
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 00:42
Pics or ban


"HEAVEN". BOSS wanders off muttering under breath about 'Old Fart'(lucky bastard,damn,!#@$%&^**((

My camera stayed in the boot last night, but if you can tolerate photos shot with a D3X I'll endeavor to get a couple off a mate and post tonight.

mickeyjuice
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 01:00
In the way that they both make and receive phone calls and messages, yes.

And I use mine for business all day every day, so that's similar too. Terrific.

brenno
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 01:28
My camera stayed in the boot last night, but if you can tolerate photos shot with a D3X I'll endeavor to get a couple off a mate and post tonight.

We can tolerate it provided the shots contain some Miss V8 action. Hell, we'd tolerate them if they were camera phone pic's... :p

AdamC
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 01:42
Nokia N97 FTW more like it.

Picked one up yesterday. Awesome piece of technology. Not as game/app friendly as the iPhone just yet. But for the technonerds like me, its perfect.

Can tell it's be designed for use, and not a fashion statement...

Well, ignoring games, apps, and fashion, and focus just on the actual interface, iPhone v. WinMo is a one horse race, IMHO.

BOSS
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 01:53
My camera stayed in the boot last night, but if you can tolerate photos shot with a D3X I'll endeavor to get a couple off a mate and post tonight.

What Brenno said!

Collin85
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 04:50
In the way that they both make and receive phone calls and messages, yes.

Erm, which is the main point of a "phone" and what most people do with them.


Can tell it's be designed for use

Yes, like the iPhone. What are we bickering about again?

and not a fashion statement...

Some treat the iPhone as a fashion statement, many don't. The fact that it can pass off as a fashion statement doesn't detract from its merits of being a great phone.

Collin85
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 05:13
Just noticed this:

http://www.blackrapid.com/double-strap.php

I'm interested.

Highlight_Photography
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 06:07
Thats awesome!

Fut
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 06:43
For you bike and race fans...

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/mcy/usgp/2009/video/video_office.aspx


LOL, Rossi as receptionist

Edwards, "Respect My Authoritayyy !!!!!

The Moose
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 08:04
Just noticed this:

http://www.blackrapid.com/double-strap.php

I'm interested.

It's a bit daggy but if it works well, it's worth it. I don't think it's essential though. It would suit event photography, especially if you're moving around a lot. I wouldn't carry around more than a 24-70/70-200, 16-35/24-70 or 16-35/70-200 combo and most of the time you end up preferring one over the other anyway so it'd probably just keep it closer to your shoulder and you can worry less about it moving around or whatever as you walk.

NicD
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 08:04
Hey Guys.

I havnt had a chance to check the last few pages so i just came to say goodbye before i head off to the snow tomorrow morning.

Hope you all keep well and look forward to posting heaps of my photo's from the week ahead.

Cya on the other side guys!

Welby
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 08:16
You all talked me into getting windows 7 so i've chucked it on the laptop and wow i like it. Never thought i'd leave XP but i will now i reckon. Also Iphones rule Josh :p

tangcla
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 08:22
Does anyone use Firefox3 + IE Tab? I notice that when a page is being rendered with IE, the middle button doesn't work... any workarounds?

photobitz
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 08:33
Just noticed this:

http://www.blackrapid.com/double-strap.php

I'm interested.

Doesn't look like it would be too comfortable for the ladies... especially if they are larger in front... :confused:

Actually after walking around with that on for a couple of hours I reckon my man-boobs would be thoroughly chafed.

tangcla
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 08:36
Doesn't look like it would be too comfortable for the ladies... especially if they are larger in front... :confused:

Actually after walking around with that on for a couple of hours I reckon my man-boobs would be thoroughly chafed.

I think the bridging strap needs to be lower. That way it can be a push-up bra. :lol:

fungry
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 08:45
You all talked me into getting windows 7 so i've chucked it on the laptop and wow i like it. Never thought i'd leave XP but i will now i reckon. Also Iphones rule Josh :p
Woohoo :) Good stuff.
The most used feature in Windows 7 for me is the drag window to side of screen to make it occupy half of the screen real estate or whole if to the top. Love it! Wished OSX had that.

But OSX indexing is still far superior :)

The Moose
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 09:05
Someone should be able to tell me, I know Sam knows exactly, but is it the Dell Mini 9 that you can install OSX on? And how does it run for general things? My mum told me she can apply to get half the cost of a laptop back because we're in high school and she said I could get a new one and mine will go to my sister. I'm thinking about a smaller laptop but I'm not sure I want the 9. Does anyone know if the Mini 12 can run OSX? I would much prefer that size.

Edit: Apparently the Mini 12 is a terrible laptop for a lot of reasons. I might just get the 9 and put up with the size.

Another edit: The Dell website doesn't list the 9 anymore, it's only got two 10 options and the 12. I guess it's discontinued then :( But the 10 does look like a good option anyway, with Windows 7 :lol:

Collin85
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 09:27
Doesn't look like it would be too comfortable for the ladies... especially if they are larger in front... :confused:

Actually after walking around with that on for a couple of hours I reckon my man-boobs would be thoroughly chafed.

Yeh, I'm a bit worried about my moobs aswell.

I recall awhile ago people here were talking about using two modified R-straps effectively linked together in a cross-fashion, and here it is.. an official product being effectively just that. Not sure if it was Matt who was really interested in that one. Wonder how well it works.. anyone willing to take one for the team? :lol:

Collin85
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 09:27
That way it can be a push-up bra. :lol:

You think it'll look well with a mankini? :cool:

Collin85
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 09:28
Hey Guys.

I havnt had a chance to check the last few pages so i just came to say goodbye before i head off to the snow tomorrow morning.

Hope you all keep well and look forward to posting heaps of my photo's from the week ahead.

Cya on the other side guys!

Later boucher.

AdamC
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 09:34
Someone should be able to tell me, I know Sam knows exactly, but is it the Dell Mini 9 that you can install OSX on? And how does it run for general things? My mum told me she can apply to get half the cost of a laptop back because we're in high school and she said I could get a new one and mine will go to my sister. I'm thinking about a smaller laptop but I'm not sure I want the 9. Does anyone know if the Mini 12 can run OSX? I would much prefer that size.

Edit: Apparently the Mini 12 is a terrible laptop for a lot of reasons. I might just get the 9 and put up with the size.

Another edit: The Dell website doesn't list the 9 anymore, it's only got two 10 options and the 12. I guess it's discontinued then :( But the 10 does look like a good option anyway, with Windows 7 :lol:

You sure? I bought one only a couple of weeks ago. Yes, the 9 is the OSX compatible one - the chipsets in the 10 are totally different.

Edit: you're right, it's gone, replaced with the previously US-only 10v model for the same price.

The Moose
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 09:38
You sure? I bought one only a couple of weeks ago. Yes, the 9 is the OSX compatible one - the chipsets in the 10 are totally different.

Yeah, I just found out that the 10v was announced in late May as a replacement for the 9. It's apparently a stripped down version of the original 10 and it's $100 cheaper. Only thing I noticed through quickly looking at the specs is no webcam though :confused: I guess it will be in stores by now or soon and whatever is left of the 9 is the last of it.

To be honest, I would have had a go at installing OSX just because it was compatible. If it's not, I don't mind. I'm happy with Windows 7 as it is. I might mention it to my mum tomorrow. She wanted me to pay for some of it so it might be a case of Siggy 24-70 or new laptop and I think I'd rather the lens :p

AdamC
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 09:46
Yeah, I just found out that the 10v was announced in late May as a replacement for the 9. It's apparently a stripped down version of the original 10 and it's $100 cheaper. Only thing I noticed through quickly looking at the specs is no webcam though :confused: I guess it will be in stores by now or soon and whatever is left of the 9 is the last of it.

To be honest, I would have had a go at installing OSX just because it was compatible. If it's not, I don't mind. I'm happy with Windows 7 as it is. I might mention it to my mum tomorrow. She wanted me to pay for some of it so it might be a case of Siggy 24-70 or new laptop and I think I'd rather the lens :p

I must have got one of the last ones then, only had it a couple of weeks. TBH, it's very limited for general use - the screen resolution is too small and the keyboard is cramped. Fine for what I want (light for carrying to work every day, and the odd bit of network admin/troubleshooting) but you'd only want it for occasional use.

The Moose
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 09:49
I must have got one of the last ones then, only had it a couple of weeks. TBH, it's very limited for general use - the screen resolution is too small and the keyboard is cramped. Fine for what I want (light for carrying to work every day, and the odd bit of network admin/troubleshooting) but you'd only want it for occasional use.

Yeah that's why I was more inclined to get the 12 but I don't want a crippled laptop that I can't upgrade. All the 12/13" laptops seem to be tablets or just relatively expensive business models. The only one I've seen that's close to doable was a display model Toshiba at Harvey Norman for $1500 but even that's a lot.

Edit: What a lie :lol: I've just found a HP 12" for $1200 on their website. Full spec which is what I want! Definitely going to look into this one even though I've never really liked any HP laptops that I've used. http://h20386.www2.hp.com/AustraliaStore/Product.aspx?pdetail=P76149&pid=C64662&

Highlight_Photography
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 09:59
Yeah that's why I was more inclined to get the 12 but I don't want a crippled laptop that I can't upgrade. All the 12/13" laptops seem to be tablets or just relatively expensive business models. The only one I've seen that's close to doable was a display model Toshiba at Harvey Norman for $1500 but even that's a lot.

Edit: What a lie :lol: I've just found a HP 12" for $1200 on their website. Full spec which is what I want! Definitely going to look into this one even though I've never really liked any HP laptops that I've used. http://h20386.www2.hp.com/AustraliaStore/Product.aspx?pdetail=P76149&pid=C64662&
I love my HP laptop. Havent had a problem...yet

The Moose
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 10:04
I love my HP laptop. Havent had a problem...yet

My cousin has had a few problems with his, much more than you'd expect from a laptop, but he doesn't treat it that well and it's probably his use that's forced the problems because a the same time I know a few people who have HP's and they're fine. I just generally don't like the feel of them. I've never liked the touchpad and the keys of them. I don't really like the touchpad on Dell's or Asus' either, maybe I'm just used to the old style touchpad that my Toshiba has :lol: I'll get used to it if I get it though, and I think it's my first choice if it happens.

Highlight_Photography
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 10:09
My cousin has had a few problems with his, much more than you'd expect from a laptop, but he doesn't treat it that well and it's probably his use that's forced the problems because a the same time I know a few people who have HP's and they're fine. I just generally don't like the feel of them. I've never liked the touchpad and the keys of them. I don't really like the touchpad on Dell's or Asus' either, maybe I'm just used to the old style touchpad that my Toshiba has :lol: I'll get used to it if I get it though, and I think it's my first choice if it happens.
I dislike the touchpad too. I use a bluetooth mouse instead now

S7000
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 17:14
I have an HP media center, and my partner has an HP laptop. I haven't had any issues with my desktop (Except when I've done something stupid :lol:) and she's yet to have a problem with her laptop. She uses a USB mouse instead of the touchpad.

Backflipboy
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 19:13
Any Excel experts out there? Need advice.

I'm working on a comparison of the hours my depot worked in our last roster compared to a proposed new roster and I can't seem to get Excel to add up the hours properly.

We work varying hours between 7h 00m hours and 8hrs 33m on any given day and every time I use the formula SUM(B4:B36) to add up the 32 rows of hours worked, it only adds up the the first and last row. Either that or it doesn't understand I want hours/minutes as the output and it's giving me days/hours instead.

Suggestions? Office helps is absolutely not helping.

tangcla
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 19:16
Kev, www.excelforum.com is a great resource for future issues ;) It's been a while, but I know Excel has some funny methods of adding up time/date

Backflipboy
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 19:51
Thanks Clarrie - found my solution almost immediately.

Highlight_Photography
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 21:43
Afternoon All,

Having problems installing Windows 7 on another computer (Sata). Does anyone know if a USB key will work to put the Sata driver on so Windows 7 detects it?

Thanks

The Moose
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 04:47
This place is dead today... I guess everyone's been taking some photos :lol: I didn't, but I wanted to. I should have.

Highlight_Photography
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 05:00
This place is dead today... I guess everyone's been taking some photos :lol: I didn't, but I wanted to. I should have.
Too cold to take photos :p

alexanderGARDNER
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 05:12
Never too cold to take photos.

I was out riding today...very reluctantly I left the camera at home.

AdamC
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 05:16
I was out visiting my mum today. 150km round trip, so I'm usually gone all afternoon. Oh, bought a nice pair of hiking boots, too. :)

The Moose
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 05:28
I stayed inside most of the day until I went to the shops and bought a few PS2 games, $10 each :lol: Found out I'm working twice this week as well (for once) so that'll get me closer to a Siggy 24-70 :) Although I'm really keen on one of those Zenitar fisheyes in M42 mount (AU$250 on ebay) to use on my Voigtlander SLR and then buy an M42 to Canon adapter to use on my Canon's.

alexanderGARDNER
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 05:34
For this July's photo walk we're heading into the wilds of St Kilda.
So come on down on the 19th at 3pm.

We'll meet at the monument in the middle of the tram tracks at the intersection of Acland and Carlisle Streets across the road from the park and as depicted in this map (http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=st+kilda&sll=-24.846565,135.703125&sspn=0.305936,0.622101&ie=UTF8&ll=-37.867143,144.978146&spn=0.00104,0.00243&t=h&z=19)

We'll make a slow circumnavigation of the surrounds so I hope to see y'all down there.

S7000
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 05:56
Evening all, back from the POTN Sydney meet. Was good good to put some faces to names.

Here's some tax:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3550/3689191345_3f05f19fbd_b.jpg

S7000
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 06:04
And with some slight photoshop magic.

http://www.members.optushome.com.au/prischlfam/IMG_6136.jpg

S7000
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 06:12
Last one:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3645/3689221695_ea9e75ce7a_b.jpg

deletedpenguin
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 06:19
^ Nice shots Phil.

Bummed I couldn't make it. Hopefully next time.

alexanderGARDNER
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 06:20
Spanking shots. Cliched first shot but what the heck! It's my favourite!

mcminty
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 06:44
Evening all, back from the POTN Sydney meet. Was good good to put some faces to names.

Here's some tax:


Wow, nice shot!

Yeah, sorry about not making it. I was still feeling a bit sick from Saturday (my cold flared up, I think). Heh, actually, this is what my Saturday was like..

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3551/3687324472_4cb5b9d680.jpg

(and no, I wasn't drunk :lol:)

S7000
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 06:58
^ Nice shots Phil.

Bummed I couldn't make it. Hopefully next time.

All good matey. There was talk of another pizza day.

Spanking shots. Cliched first shot but what the heck! It's my favourite!

Cheers Al.

Wow, nice shot!

Yeah, sorry about not making it. I was still feeling a bit sick from Saturday (my cold flared up, I think). Heh, actually, this is what my Saturday was like..



(and no, I wasn't drunk :lol:)

No worries Andrew, there will another some time.

There should be a group shot too somewhere, I think it was taken on Mark's camera, so it might be a few days before it gets posted.

fungry
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 08:19
Finally a Sydney meet at last :). Yea they were taken on Mark's.

Backflipboy
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 08:37
Last one:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3645/3689221695_ea9e75ce7a_b.jpg
I like this one the best - certainly would have preferred to be out and about with you guys instead of doing 5 hours of roster reviews then having to go to work.

fungry
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 09:17
Hahaha

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2559/3689627559_0411928b2e_o.jpg

fungry
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 09:43
Some old tax, taken on my trip back from Melbourne to Canberra in April.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3644/3689696025_c158854a86_o.jpg

Highlight_Photography
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 10:54
One of my laptops just died....RIP :( Well kinda....BSOD soon as turned on. Did a OS repair but didnt help so now I'm sitting here deciding what to do :(

Mark
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 11:06
All good matey. There was talk of another pizza day.



Cheers Al.



No worries Andrew, there will another some time.

There should be a group shot too somewhere, I think it was taken on Mark's camera, so it might be a few days before it gets posted.
Here it is :p
Bit crap... :lol:

And Hi Ed

The Moose
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 11:08
Who's who in that photo? :p

Mark
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 11:09
Hahaha


It's a damn good lens though!
Now I want one

And a 10-20 (shot is 11mm on a mk III!)

And an FD 35mm TS!
:lol:

Mark
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 11:12
Who's who in that photo? :p
Left to right;
Coalcliff, Fungry, Justin, me, Justin's Mate, Phil, Photoblitz

I'll put up some proper photos once I CBF editing them...

Mark
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 11:13
One of my laptops just died....RIP :( Well kinda....BSOD soon as turned on. Did a OS repair but didnt help so now I'm sitting here deciding what to do :(
Ahhh damn, that sucks, don't have any important data lost?

The Moose
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 11:15
I never would have guessed that was you in the middle, Mark :p

Mark
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 11:18
I never would have guessed that was you in the middle, Mark :p
:lol: Who did you think I was :p

The Moose
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 11:20
:lol: Who did you think I was :p

Well at first I thought I spotted someone trying to swim back to the wall but I guess not :lol:

Edit: And did you say Sigma 10-20 on the 1D? :p

Mark
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 11:23
Well at first I thought I spotted someone trying to swim back to the wall but I guess not :lol:

Edit: And did you say Sigma 10-20 on the 1D? :p
Uhh, what :lol:

Yup, I was amazinged when first it fit, then it worked right down to 11mm without noticable vignetting! :D

The Moose
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 11:42
Interesting stuff right there. I'd love something really wide, I've been noticing more and more that 24 is not really that wide at all :lol: Not sure if you saw a few posts above but I mentioned that I might have a go at the Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye for $250. Wide enough, even if some of the fish is gone because of the 1.3x :p

tangcla
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 16:27
One of my laptops just died....RIP :( Well kinda....BSOD soon as turned on. Did a OS repair but didnt help so now I'm sitting here deciding what to do :(

Time for a fresh install...

S7000
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 17:34
Here it is :p


Bit noisy, but it's all good.

How'd hand held flash shots come out?

Highlight_Photography
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 17:54
Time for a fresh install...
Cant get the install to detect the SATA driver so it wont let me install :(

SeanDudding
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 18:05
Anyone know any 1d11n or 1d11s for sale, after using my 300 F2.8 is and 50d to take pictures of my daughter in centennial park yesterday, I was reminded how damn good this lens is, and I want to be able to use it more, so want a good full frame camera. Plus also looking for a 85mm F1.2.

wakko
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 18:09
Anyone know any 1d11n or 1d11s for sale, after using my 300 F2.8 is and 50d to take pictures of my daughter in centennial park yesterday, I was reminded how damn good this lens is, and I want to be able to use it more, so want a good full frame camera. Plus also looking for a 85mm F1.2.

can't help you with the sale, but you do know that the 1D2N isn't full frame right? only the 1Ds family is FF.

SeanDudding
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 18:30
can't help you with the sale, but you do know that the 1D2N isn't full frame right? only the 1Ds family is FF.


Thanks, I meant to look up whether the 2n was FF, it's a 1.3x then??

coalcliff
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 18:37
Phil, my pick of your three pics is the one where Dan is doing the picking.:D

My version of the scary face:

and another scary face at the Sydney meet. Justin zooming the wrong way according to the sign at the end of my 100-400!

wakko
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 18:38
Thanks, I meant to look up whether the 2n was FF, it's a 1.3x then??

yep... 1.3x

S7000
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 18:57
Phil, my pick of your three pics is the one where Dan is doing the picking.:D

My version of the scary face:

Saw that one coming Damo. :p

Looking good, a bit of posterisation?

coalcliff
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 19:11
Two image hdr followed by a some ol posterisation to suit the carnival atmosphere before the Magnificent Seven moseyed into the Luna Park and scared all the renta cops with our tripods and "professional" cameras. What a joke..

A couple of images, one near Noel the friendly Security bloke under the bridge, who had to check we were not terrorists for taking photos, looking back into the sunset, with Dawn on the left. Pacific Dawn the cruise ship. And one looking back into Circular Quay

Couple more images up on the original thread too.

JustinLawrence
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 20:19
Hahaha

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2559/3689627559_0411928b2e_o.jpg
Busted!
That is Van by the Way
Phil, my pick of your three pics is the one where Dan is doing the picking.:D

My version of the scary face:

and another scary face at the Sydney meet. Justin zooming the wrong way according to the sign at the end of my 100-400!

Theres a special way to zoom? Love the lens btw, 400mm is very nice.

wakko
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 20:32
Theres a special way to zoom?

one way sign at the end of the hood :)

coalcliff
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 20:43
Thanks Feng,
BTW where's my invoice....:rolleyes:

fungry
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 20:51
Good stuff :)
Feng, when will you be ordering in the goods?

It is safe to say, after the meet, I think my wishlist just expanded three fold O_O.
TT belt MMMMMM *mark*
FD 35mm TS *Dan*
1D3 *Mark and Dan*
Gitzo 1541T *Justin*
Leveler *Phil*
100-400 *Damian*

;)

Highlight_Photography
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 20:53
Sitting here at work fixing my laptop as I have nothing else to do. Installing windows 7 on it (Got the Sata driver to appear on usb key) but its getting stuck on "Expanding Windows files (28%)"

Edit- Windows cannot install required files. The file may be corrupted or mossing. Make sure all files required for installation are available and restart the appication.
Error code : 0x80070017
Any ideas?


Thanks,
Cam,

fungry
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 20:58
Sitting here at work fixing my laptop as I have nothing else to do. Installing windows 7 on it (Got the Sata driver to appear on usb key) but its getting stuck on "Expanding Windows files (28%)"

Edit- Windows cannot install required files. The file may be corrupted or mossing. Make sure all files required for installation are available and restart the appication.
Error code : 0x80070017
Any ideas?


Thanks,
Cam,
I think your memory or hard drive has gone kaput. The former most likely I believe. Do you have any spare parts lying around that you can try? If there are two memory chips on board, perhaps take one out and try to install win7 individually.

Highlight_Photography
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 21:05
I think your memory or hard drive has gone kaput. The former most likely I believe. Do you have any spare parts lying around that you can try? If there are two memory chips on board, perhaps take one out and try to install win7 individually.
Just installed xp and it installed fine so I'm not sure whats casuing it

Im thinking that the DVD could of been burnt too fast this morning (was running late for work so burnt it at 10x). I believe it is recommented to born between 1 - 5x.

Will burn another copy tonight once I get home from work. *Touch wood that it will work*

Going to Phillip Island tomorrow. Anyone know of anything interusting to take photographs of? Seal Rocks?

photobitz
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 21:33
one way sign at the end of the hood :)

ROFL!!

Well framed Damo :)

Thanks, I meant to look up whether the 2n was FF, it's a 1.3x then??

I'm selling my 1Dmk2 if you will be satisfied with 1.3x crop.

deletedpenguin
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 22:18
Just installed xp and it installed fine so I'm not sure whats casuing it

Im thinking that the DVD could of been burnt too fast this morning (was running late for work so burnt it at 10x). I believe it is recommented to born between 1 - 5x.

Will burn another copy tonight once I get home from work. *Touch wood that it will work*

Going to Phillip Island tomorrow. Anyone know of anything interusting to take photographs of? Seal Rocks?

Did you try copying to another partition to install? I just copied the files to a 2nd partition and installed Win 7 that way. Worked perfectly.

Mark
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 22:20
Interesting stuff right there. I'd love something really wide, I've been noticing more and more that 24 is not really that wide at all Not sure if you saw a few posts above but I mentioned that I might have a go at the Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye for $250. Wide enough, even if some of the fish is gone because of the 1.3x
Mmmm, I love that 10-20 now (Dammit damian :p)
11mm on 1.3 is 14.3mm equiv on FF :D
Bit noisy, but it's all good.

How'd hand held flash shots come out?
Noise is probably the crap jpeg compression, for some reason that image needed 50 to get it small enough but the others were fine with 70.... (oh, and I was at ISO 3200 for a 1.3 second exposure :p)

Handheld flash... Some people are a bit blown.. :lol:
Two image hdr followed by a some ol posterisation to suit the carnival atmosphere before the Magnificent Seven moseyed into the Luna Park and scared all the renta cops with our tripods and "professional" cameras. What a joke..

A couple of images, one near Noel the friendly Security bloke under the bridge, who had to check we were not terrorists for taking photos, looking back into the sunset, with Dawn on the left. Pacific Dawn the cruise ship. And one looking back into Circular Quay

Couple more images up on the original thread too.
Nice photoz man! :D
Yeah, those security guards were fools...
Busted!
That is Van by the Way


Theres a special way to zoom? Love the lens btw, 400mm is very nice.
Ohhh yeah, that's his name! Van, come on post something!! :p
Good stuff
Feng, when will you be ordering in the goods?

It is safe to say, after the meet, I think my wishlist just expanded three fold O_O.
TT belt MMMMMM *mark*
FD 35mm TS *Dan*
1D3 *Mark and Dan*
Gitzo 1541T *Justin*
Leveler *Phil*
100-400 *Damian*


Same, now I want a TS lens, Leveler, 100-400, 10-20, but I did manage to un-want a 1514T and instead now want a bigger, more expensive gitzo :lol:
Phil, my pick of your three pics is the one where Dan is doing the picking.

My version of the scary face:

and another scary face at the Sydney meet. Justin zooming the wrong way according to the sign at the end of my 100-400!
ROFL, great job :lol:

photobitz
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 22:36
I never realised I had such a fat head.

wakko
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 22:36
Thanks Feng,
BTW where's my invoice....:rolleyes:

Ran away with the dish and the spoon when the cow jumped o'er the moon :rolleyes:

Good stuff :)
Feng, when will you be ordering in the goods?


Probably toward the end of the week. Still waiting on Kristin and a couple of others as they have already expressed interest. Is that ok with everyone?

Mark
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 22:39
I never realised I had such a fat head.
That's the 11mm on 1.3 effect :D
Ran away with the dish and the spoon when the cow jumped o'er the moon :rolleyes:



Probably toward the end of the week. Still waiting on Kristin and a couple of others as they have already expressed interest. Is that ok with everyone?
Sweet as, thanks mate ;)

S7000
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 22:42
Two image hdr followed by a some ol posterisation to suit the carnival atmosphere before the Magnificent Seven moseyed into the Luna Park and scared all the renta cops with our tripods and "professional" cameras. What a joke..


Maybe the Luna Park renta cop saw you talking to the Bridge renta cop and felt left out so he made it his business to make sure we couldn't get any shots. So in turn, it's your fault Damo. http://www.members.optushome.com.au/prischlfam/confused0043.gif

S7000
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 22:43
There's some mirrors in Luna Park you should check out Dan, you'd look the same there. :p

Mark: Apart from the distortion it turned out ok.

fungry
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 22:49
Yup, perfectly fine Feng.

Mark
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 22:59
Here is my actual photo of Luna Park scary-face

The one I held up Ed and Phil for is coming once my computer finishes rendering it :lol:

And thanks heaps for the food Dan-the-man!

alexanderGARDNER
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 23:18
Mark,

I've always hated the look of that Luna Park face...I hate it even more. Grotesque.

mcminty
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 23:31
Sounded so fun. We must organise another thing soon XD Lol, tho rent-a-cops seem so stupid :P

So, today McHandyman has decided to make his own Sunbounce. :) I've already bought the PVC piping and junctions.. now I've got to cut the pipes down to size. :confused:

Mark
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 23:34
Mark,

I've always hated the look of that Luna Park face...I hate it even more. Grotesque.

I think that's the point :lol:

Ed, do you know where Ted and Sun Studios are?? I need to get that TT stuff tomorrow I think/hope :lol:

And Dan, thanks for making me want a TS lens:mad: Same with you and your 100-400 and 10-20 Damian!:mad:
:lol:

fungry
5th of July 2009 (Sun), 23:44
I think that's the point :lol:

Ed, do you know where Ted and Sun Studios are?? I need to get that TT stuff tomorrow I think/hope :lol:

And Dan, thanks for making me want a TS lens:mad: Same with you and your 100-400 and 10-20 Damian!:mad:
:lol:
I don't think they are selling TT yet. Perhaps give them a ring?

edit// Mark, just gave Sun Studios a call. They said they won't be getting any stock till late August. They did say they have two demo backpacks if you want to try, doubt for sale though haha. What do you plan on getting?.

Collin85
6th of July 2009 (Mon), 00:26
Hey guys, it was nice meeting all of you yesterday.


Bit crap... :lol:
http://collinzheng.smugmug.com/photos/583233275_WvwMy-O.jpg


Thanks for posting the group pic Mark. :)

Michael
6th of July 2009 (Mon), 00:33
Hey guys, it was nice meeting all of you yesterday.



Thanks for posting the group pic Mark. :)
ROFL. I was like- "I didn't think Collin went to that meet".. Then I saw you in the pic and absolutely pissed myself. :p

Mark
6th of July 2009 (Mon), 00:37
I don't think they are selling TT yet. Perhaps give them a ring?

edit// Mark, just gave Sun Studios a call. They said they won't be getting any stock till late August. They did say they have two demo backpacks if you want to try, doubt for sale though haha. What do you plan on getting?.

Daaaaam, I'll ring up Ted sometime and find out if they have it, planning on a Digital Holster something and some more bits (why I want to buy in a store so I can choose the ones that work......)

Mark
6th of July 2009 (Mon), 00:38
ROFL. I was like- "I didn't think Collin went to that meet".. Then I saw you in the pic and absolutely pissed myself. :p
+1 HAHAHAHA good job Dr. Colon! :lol:

Highlight_Photography
6th of July 2009 (Mon), 00:55
Fixed my computer. Burnt the windows 7 at 2x and it worked straught away :)

Thanks all for your suggestions :)

photobitz
6th of July 2009 (Mon), 01:22
Hey guys, it was nice meeting all of you yesterday.

Thanks for posting the group pic Mark. :)

BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

MANKINI FTW!!!

The Moose
6th of July 2009 (Mon), 01:41
Back before I got my 400D I went to this photography expo to look at some cameras and everything to make a decision. Turns out I went to PMA 2007 and I never even knew it :lol: I found the tickets today and I was just a bit surprised. Where is next years PMA?

S7000
6th of July 2009 (Mon), 01:57
Hey guys, it was nice meeting all of you yesterday.



Thanks for posting the group pic Mark. :)

haha!!! Classic.

fungry
6th of July 2009 (Mon), 02:43
Back before I got my 400D I went to this photography expo to look at some cameras and everything to make a decision. Turns out I went to PMA 2007 and I never even knew it :lol: I found the tickets today and I was just a bit surprised. Where is next years PMA?
Melbourne.

The Moose
6th of July 2009 (Mon), 02:50
Melbourne.
Definitely gonna go along then. June 4-6 according to the website (didn't think it would be up already :lol).

Side note, if anyone is after an amazingly cheap Tamron 17-50/2.8, I'm talking nearly half price, read this: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1214208. It has the makings of a scam but it turns out it's just a really cheap price. I'd go for it myself but AFAIK, it won't work on my 1D. Of course, it's still a bit of a risk even if someone else got their lens all good.

Fut
6th of July 2009 (Mon), 03:09
Going to Phillip Island tomorrow. Anyone know of anything interusting to take photographs of? Seal Rocks?


Apart from Seal Rocks, there's the Penguin Parade (don't use a flash) and also a Wildlife Park near there too, you can get right up close to the Koala's, but i can't remember the name of it ???

If you took a trip down there in a few months, you could come onto the race track with me ..... I'm down there for a ride day.
If you had leathers and a helmut, you could even get onto the track as a pillion rider.

tangcla
6th of July 2009 (Mon), 03:13
Cameron - if you're near me (Glen Iris) you can pass me the laptop and I'll see if I can work my Windows installation magic on it.

Sean - You're about a week late, I just sold my 1D Mark II N. For $2610 :cool:

Boucher
6th of July 2009 (Mon), 04:05
well I'm back, caving with a camera is a bit fun, besides the fact that dust gets everywhere..

The Moose
6th of July 2009 (Mon), 04:11
How often did you change lenses Boucher :p I wouldn't have been game enough to do it too often.

coalcliff
6th of July 2009 (Mon), 04:14
thanks Mark for organising the meet up in Sydney from Perth!

I never realised I had such a fat head.

Isn't that what your dadda calls you!:oops:

Hey guys, it was nice meeting all of you yesterday.

Thanks for posting the group pic Mark. :)
No, we were at the Quay, not Darlinghurts!

well I'm back, caving with a camera is a bit fun, besides the fact that dust gets everywhere..

Hey Boucher!

alexanderGARDNER
6th of July 2009 (Mon), 05:00
Cam,

Go to Seal Rocks and take the back road to the Penguin Parade centre. Stop about 200 metres from the Seal Rock carpark and walk down the hill toward the ocean. Careful where you step as there are Penguin nests under your feet!

Boucher
6th of July 2009 (Mon), 06:35
Surprisingly I used the 17-40L the whole time, I didn't even get the 85 out of the bag..

and yeah, I wasn't game either, we had to wear dust masks in one of the caves so heck I wasn't going to expose the sensor to that haha.

I think it might be worth sending into canon (5D and 17-40L) to get cleaned up proper. The focus ring makes lovely sounds as if there is a bunch of dirt in the mechanism.

ANGUS
6th of July 2009 (Mon), 06:39
Surprisingly I used the 17-40L the whole time, I didn't even get the 85 out of the bag..

and yeah, I wasn't game either, we had to wear dust masks in one of the caves so heck I wasn't going to expose the sensor to that haha.

I think it might be worth sending into canon (5D and 17-40L) to get cleaned up proper. The focus ring makes lovely sounds as if there is a bunch of dirt in the mechanism.


Try an authorised repairer for the cleaning. Cost me $170 to clean my 17-40 after Africa, Canon itself wanted closer to $300

The Moose
6th of July 2009 (Mon), 06:46
Haha yeah it's probably a good idea. I don't try to baby my gear but I never seem to be in any situations when I need to worry. Not that I'm complaining :lol:

Highlight_Photography
6th of July 2009 (Mon), 06:47
I cant seem to be able to install CS4 on Windows 7. Any pointers?

Boucher
6th of July 2009 (Mon), 06:52
Any one you can recommend Angus? I don't "really" mind sending it to canon but if I can get it cheaper elsewhere then why not..

so while I'm here, who wants an 85mm 1.8?

don't use the thing anyway..

soon it'll just be me and my trusty ole 17-40L. and an old minolta 55mm 1.4 that I haven't modded yet.

AndrewOz
6th of July 2009 (Mon), 06:59
Anyone else here a member of the small www.digitalslr.com.au (http://www.digitalslr.com.au) Forum? Its closing down on 19th July which is a shame. Small group of less than 1000 members which Ive learnt a lot from (as well as POTN and AusPhotog forums)

fungry
6th of July 2009 (Mon), 07:01
I cant seem to be able to install CS4 on Windows 7. Any pointers?
Odd.. any sort of error?
Installed and works flawlessly for me.. as far as I am concerned :)

ANGUS
6th of July 2009 (Mon), 07:04
Any one you can recommend Angus? I don't "really" mind sending it to canon but if I can get it cheaper elsewhere then why not..

so while I'm here, who wants an 85mm 1.8?

don't use the thing anyway..

soon it'll just be me and my trusty ole 17-40L. and an old minolta 55mm 1.4 that I haven't modded yet.

HL Camera Service in the Sydney CBD did mine.

tangcla
6th of July 2009 (Mon), 07:10
so while I'm here, who wants an 85mm 1.8?

LOL what is it Josh, are you selling what I'm selling?? First the 100mm macro, now the 85mm f/1.8... :p

The Moose
6th of July 2009 (Mon), 07:12
so while I'm here, who wants an 85mm 1.8?

don't use the thing anyway..

soon it'll just be me and my trusty ole 17-40L. and an old minolta 55mm 1.4 that I haven't modded yet.

An 85 sounds good but I'm going for a Sigma 24-70 soon so then I'll have the 24-70/70-200 combo covered. Would love something wider as well as that but I want f/2.8 and I'm not made of money :lol:

Edit: Something wider as in Tamron 17-50 but I want it to fit my 1D as well as my 400D so the 24-70 is the best option.

Highlight_Photography
6th of July 2009 (Mon), 07:16
Odd.. any sort of error?
Installed and works flawlessly for me.. as far as I am concerned :)
- Session has dependencies that can not be satisfied
Please see the setup log files for details

Found log but cant open that format