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USER876
28th of April 2009 (Tue), 10:23
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Sisyphus
28th of April 2009 (Tue), 11:14
I've seen this photo before. Bridges are at the top of my list of favorite subjects and I like this one. The exposure into the sun seems to work okay here (I always have a hard time getting it just right). This appears to be but a small section of a much longer bridge.

Robert_Lay
28th of April 2009 (Tue), 11:47
Too bad all the verticals are tilted.

Flo
28th of April 2009 (Tue), 11:57
Too bad all the verticals are tilted.

Agree, it just sits funny. But I like the processing.

JRB
28th of April 2009 (Tue), 12:06
Could you explain "all the verticals are tilted".

Flo
28th of April 2009 (Tue), 12:23
Could you explain "all the verticals are tilted".

The horizon is titled, thus so are the verticals.

-Douglas-
28th of April 2009 (Tue), 14:15
The sun does not appear to be in the "right" part of the sky!

glare on vehicle windows,
highlights on light poles,
highlight/shadow area under the bridge,
various little things here and there,
white matte/fringe around light poles and over sharpened.
Did you replace the sky? I'm curious what the original looks like.
Just my opinion here, it looks a little wonky ;)

USER876
28th of April 2009 (Tue), 14:50
The sun does not appear to be in the "right" part of the sky!

glare on vehicle windows,
highlights on light poles,
highlight/shadow area under the bridge,
various little things here and there,
white matte/fringe around light poles and over sharpened.
Did you replace the sky? I'm curious what the original looks like.
Just my opinion here, it looks a little wonky ;)

Hats off you to....damn you're good! Have to admit the sun was on the other side of the bridge that I couldn't access. I thought the picture was missing something so moved the sun to where it is. I didn't feel the shadows and glare would give it away. but it seems like there is a lot more in the pic you don't like either. Oh well, I saw some potential in this pic, maybe I'll just scrap it.

-Douglas-
28th of April 2009 (Tue), 15:09
^^ ah ha!! Well, I didn't say I didn't like it.......just a little wonky :lol:

Robert_Lay
28th of April 2009 (Tue), 15:29
Yes, the horizon does seem to be a little bit not horizontal. However, that is hard to measure with as little as we have to go by.

The problem with the street lampls is that they tilt a little to the right. This is a common phenomenon caused by holding the camera so that it tilts upward or downward or twisting right or left. In other words, the photographer was not noticing as he took the picture that he was holding the camera in some orientation other than perfectly level.

Anyway, pointing either above or below the horizon is very common and shows up as vertical objects tilting in toward the center or outward, away from the center. Likewise, it is common to inadvertantly twist the camera right or left causing the horizon to dip to the right or left, slightly.

While this happens almost universally, it is seldom noticed except when there are architectural objects in the scene, such as buildings or poles, that are normally taken to be vertical. If you hold the camera so as to point directly at the horizon, or where you think the horizon is at, your result should be perfectly plumb verticals and a perflectly level horizon.

USER876
28th of April 2009 (Tue), 15:56
Yes, the horizon does seem to be a little bit not horizontal. However, that is hard to measure with as little as we have to go by.

The problem with the street lampls is that they tilt a little to the right. This is a common phenomenon caused by holding the camera so that it tilts upward or downward or twisting right or left. In other words, the photographer was not noticing as he took the picture that he was holding the camera in some orientation other than perfectly level.

Anyway, pointing either above or below the horizon is very common and shows up as vertical objects tilting in toward the center or outward, away from the center. Likewise, it is common to inadvertantly twist the camera right or left causing the horizon to dip to the right or left, slightly.

While this happens almost universally, it is seldom noticed except when there are architectural objects in the scene, such as buildings or poles, that are normally taken to be vertical. If you hold the camera so as to point directly at the horizon, or where you think the horizon is at, your result should be perfectly plumb verticals and a perflectly level horizon.

Robert, that was very helpful. Thank you.

JRB
29th of April 2009 (Wed), 09:49
Yeah, moving the sun is what I think really threw everything out of perspective due to the shadows and reflections. Good eye Douglas!

-Douglas-
29th of April 2009 (Wed), 11:04
As an after thought about the post processing, when you have a selection made, try using
a "defringe" of 1or 2 pixels to help clean up your selection. I tried to use "Remove Black Matte" and
"Remove White Matte" on a recent edit here (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=7821460&postcount=1000), (the goober with eyes bugged out in the front right:rolleyes:) but "defringe" seemed to work the best
on this one, YMMV.