Singh Ray Vari-ND-Duo

[AVG]

Can i use this filter in 17mm ff camera witout vignetting? (Canon 5d2 + 17-40), there is any way to use it with nd gratuated slot in filters?

thanks

[argyle]

I'm getting ready to order one myself. From what I've read, the filter will cause vignetting at 24mm and below. Singh-Ray now has a slimmer version of this filter, but I'm not sure at what focal length the vignetting will occur (also is not front-threaded, so using a filter holder is a no go). You can always hand-hold the GND filter in front at very wide angles.

EDIT: Just noticed that you have a 1.6 crop camera...the numbers I gave you for vignetting are for a FF camera.

[AVG]

I sold the 40D and i'll buy one 5d2 so its ff =) and about the warming polarizer? can it be attached to the Lee system with the 105mm ring?

[Hogloff]

I've read somewhere that vignetting goes all the way to 28mm with the 5D.

[North of Auckland]

I have the thin mount one for my 40D and it starts to vignette at 12mm.

When I spoke to Bob Singh he said they vignette at 18mm on FF.

By the way they are a bloody amazing bit of kit, very expensive but oh what fun :D

[gixxer]

I've been debating on this filter for a while now I want to use it at wide angles but I also want to be able to attach a filter holder. Could get the slim mount and hand hold the fitlers as argyle said but I'm not very good at hand holding fitlers at long exposures (which is what I would be doing with this fitler) and I also like to stack filters sometimes.

[sf1]

Are you using this with the Mor-Slo filter? I need to get some reviews on the combo before I order them. Looks like a great combo for mid day fun, but at a cost of $640, it needs to be bloody amazing.

[North of Auckland]

I am just using it on it's own, even here with NZ's harsh light it works wonders.

I managed to get 8 second exposure's at midday in broad sunlight with lighting temps of around 6500k, if you are in the Northern hemisphere you are going to get even longer exposures.

This shot was taken at about 11am with an exposure of 6 seconds.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3653/3446035031_e1e74ba8c0_b.jpg

[North of Auckland]

I did get shading at 12mm on this shot.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3357/3451271306_5ca7dfe545_b.jpg

[sf1]

I am just using it on it's own, even here with NZ's harsh light it works wonders.

I managed to get 8 second exposure's at midday in broad sunlight with lighting temps of around 6500k, if you are in the Northern hemisphere you are going to get even longer exposures.

This shot was taken at about 11am with an exposure of 6 seconds.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3653/3446035031_e1e74ba8c0_b.jpg

Thank you.

[cfibanez]

I am just using it on it's own, even here with NZ's harsh light it works wonders.
I managed to get 8 second exposure's at midday in broad sunlight with lighting temps of around 6500k, if you are in the Northern hemisphere you are going to get even longer exposures.
This shot was taken at about 11am with an exposure of 6 seconds.


I am also chasing the Vari-ND filters and found this thread quite interesting. A question to you NoA is whether you find the CPL capability useful. I noticed that you did not use it in this shot since it is full of reflections from teh stones and water. Thanks.

[rouxeny]

Isn't some of that shading due to the polarizer also though? With a wide angle and polarizer on, the sky will look different in different parts of the picture as the polarization effect is different.

I would think if it was shading, or vignetting, it would also be apparent on the top right of your shot.

The simple answer to the first of the OP's questions is, "No".

[North of Auckland]

I am also chasing the Vari-ND filters and found this thread quite interesting. A question to you NoA is whether you find the CPL capability useful. I noticed that you did not use it in this shot since it is full of reflections from teh stones and water. Thanks.Bare in mind this was the first out with this filter so....... ;)

Yes, this thing is very expensive for a filter, but I can hand on heart say it will be the best bit on kit you will ever buy!

If you look at my Flickr photostream you will see what this thing is capable of.

If you can afford one and you like to take long exposure photographs, then this beast is a no brainer. Buy it!

Isn't some of that shading due to the polarizer also though? With a wide angle and polarizer on, the sky will look different in different parts of the picture as the polarization effect is different.

I would think if it was shading, or vignetting, it would also be apparent on the top right of your shot.

The simple answer to the first of the OP's questions is, "No".
TBH I was probably using it wrong :oops:

I'm now FF and it vignettes to about 20mm I think.

[MDJAK]

TaDa, a member here, has one and I watched him use it. He subsequently sold it for the thin mount as the normal one vignetted on my 24-70 at 24.

It is amazing though and I'm dying for one.

me

[cfibanez]

I have now ordered the thin mount of this filter and am looking forward to a good opportunity to test it.

[jdizzle]

I have owned the Singh Ray Vari-ND and I thought it was ok but, it would vignette at 24 and below. As long as you get the thin mount, you should be ok. Too bad they don't make the thin mount in 82mm. I'd be all over it.

[MDJAK]

what lens would the 82 be used for?

[Jon]

16-35 Mk. II and Sigma 24-70 are both 82 mm native thread. Using a step-up ring 77-82 might reduce or eliminate the reported vignetting with the 24-70 L.

[rklepper]

That is a great idea. I wonder since they only make a standard in 82mm and a thin in 77mm whether using a step up ring with the standard 82mm would be better that a 77mm thin.



16-35 Mk. II and Sigma 24-70 are both 82 mm native thread. Using a step-up ring 77-82 might reduce or eliminate the reported vignetting with the 24-70 L.

[Traumuh]

I would think so, 82mm is considerably larger.

[jdizzle]

I had the 82 mm for my 16-35 II and it vignetted a bit. I also had the step-up ring 77-82 for the 24-70 and it also vignetted on that as well.

[jdizzle]

Here's the filter on the 16-35 II. Looks pretty but, it vignettes. :)

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb83/delarosaIII/3R1I1887.jpg[/IMG]

Here's the filter with the step-up ring on the 24-70.

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb83/delarosaIII/3R1I1891.jpg[/IMG]

If I ever buy this filter again, I would definitely buy a thin mount in 77mm.

[TheFloridaShooter]

How bad is the Singh Ray Vari-ND thin mount going to vignette on a EF-S 10-22mm? Will it vignette at 10mm. At what mm will it stop?

Thanks

[jdizzle]

How bad is the Singh Ray Vari-ND thin mount going to vignette on a EF-S 10-22mm? Will it vignette at 10mm. At what mm will it stop?

Thanks

You should be fine with the thin mount on the 10-22. If it does, I'll buy it from you. :)

[North of Auckland]

How bad is the Singh Ray Vari-ND thin mount going to vignette on a EF-S 10-22mm? Will it vignette at 10mm. At what mm will it stop?

Thanks

It will almost certainly vignette at 10mm. On a crop sensor the thin mount vignettes to about 12mm, well it did on my Sigma 10-20mm on a Canon 40D.

[jdizzle]

It will almost certainly vignette at 10mm. On a crop sensor the thin mount vignettes to about 12mm, well it did on my Sigma 10-20mm on a Canon 40D.
It may or may not on the 10-22 though. I have the thin mount LB Color Combo and it doesn't vignette at 16mm on FF.

[jdizzle]

Scratch that! I'm forgetting that this the Vari-N-Duo is a bit thicker on the thin mount. :)

[North of Auckland]

Scratch that! I'm forgetting that this the Vari-N-Duo is a bit thicker on the thin mount. :)

I was going to say it's about double the thickness ;)

[argyle]

I've had the Vari-N-Duo for about six weeks now and love it, but on a FF the vignetting can be a problem below 35mm. I called the folks at S-R yesterday and they agreed to rework my filter into the slim mount for only a slight labor charge...no need to try and sell it on the Buy/Sell forum for a loss and then buy the thin mount outright. Shipped it back this morning...time to wait and see.

[North of Auckland]

I've had the Vari-N-Duo for about six weeks now and love it, but on a FF the vignetting can be a problem below 35mm. I called the folks at S-R yesterday and they agreed to rework my filter into the slim mount for only a slight labor charge...no need to try and sell it on the Buy/Sell forum for a loss and then buy the thin mount outright. Shipped it back this morning...time to wait and see.

Wicked customer services ay?

[argyle]

Funny thing is, I didn't even have to ask...they outright volunteered to do this for me. Their prices may be more expensive than others, especially when it comes to specialty filters, but I don't mind paying a premium when it also includes stellar service.

[scottda]

I'm interested in how the thin mount fairs with the 24-105. Please post picks and thoughts when you can.

Edit: interested in FF result.

Thanks,
Scott

[North of Auckland]

I'm interested in how the thin mount fairs with the 24-105. Please post picks and thoughts when you can.

Thanks,
Scott

Well I took this at 24mm with the slim mount fitted, though it was on a 40D crop not a FF sensor.

I though it was a sweet lens, in fact I will be getting one sometime.

The thin mount shouldn't vignette on this at all so you'll be fine.

Anyway here a test shot I took with it.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2609/3672956799_e8c2549121_b.jpg

[D_M_T]

Thanks for the info, I'm also trying to decide on a Grad ND filter for my upcoming Alaska trip.

[DozerLYP]

Great, an other thing I need to add to my gear list. Oh well, money is made to be spent, but when is it gonna end? I guess never:rolleyes:

[harv3589]

Going to bring this old post up to see what the thoughts are on using it on a 21mm Ziess lens? Going to vignette? Given that its a 82mm already. I am also using it on a 5D MkII.

[jdizzle]

Going to bring this old post up to see what the thoughts are on using it on a 21mm Ziess lens? Going to vignette? Given that its a 82mm already. I am also using it on a 5D MkII.
It's going to vignette. I recommend a Lee Big Stopper instead. :)

[harv3589]

It's going to vignette. I recommend a Lee Big Stopper instead. :)

Thanks! I will check it out

[antifire]

^^ me too. I have a vari-n-duo for sale, but I might keep it for my 67mm and 58mm lenses. I think I'll get the Lee Big Stopper when I go to Europe, it's a little difficult to find in the states....