Epson 2100 or the new Epson R1800

[mdr]

I'm planning to buy an A3+ printer shortly. I produce colour prints on Epson Premium Glossy and both colour and black and white prints on Somerset Velvet or Satin.

I can't afford the Epson Pro 4000, so I'm considering either the Epson 2100 or the just released R1800. Or should I wait for the successor of the 2100 to be released.

What are your views/experiences?

Cheers,

Marc.

[chris.bailey]

I have not got good results from the 2100 on true glossy, Premium Semi is great though.

[scottbergerphoto]

I love the results from my Epson 2200.

[Hellashot]

Is the 2200 called the 2100 outside the USA? If so I think the R1800 is the replacement for the R2200/2100. I believe the differences between the 2200/2100 and 1800 are 1800 is now ultrachrome inks and 1.5 picoliter vs. 4picoleter (2200).

[mbze430]

I went to Camulet to try out the R1800, not impress. the edge of certain prints doesn't look right to me.

[rcrobert]

I've had the R1800 for a couple weeks now and like it a lot. Very nice prints, much faster than my old 1270. If you print borderless, there is a little bit of image quality loss at the edges -- but other than that, the prints are picture perfect. I would highly recommend for color prints. Have not tried any B&Ws yet.

[Jesper]

I have neither the 2200 nor the R1800 (thinking about buying the R1800 in a few months...). From all the info I've read, the 2200 is very good especially for matte papers and the R1800 is very good especially for glossy papers. So if you mainly want to print on glossy papers, the R1800 is probably the better choice.
Is the 2200 called the 2100 outside the USA? If so I think the R1800 is the replacement for the R2200/2100. I believe the differences between the 2200/2100 and 1800 are 1800 is now ultrachrome inks and 1.5 picoliter vs. 4picoleter (2200).Yes, the 2200 is called 2100 outside the USA. The R1800 doesn't seem to be the official replacement for the 2200/2100... Epson is still selling the 2200/2100 too.

[mdr]

I've read in BJP this week that the R1800 is not a replacement for the 2100/2200, and a replacement for the 2100/2200 is coming soon.

A couple of observations.

The printer prices are a good indication that the R1800 is not a replacement. If it was, then the 2100/2200 price would officially have droped below the R1800 price. It hasn't.

The 2100/2200 are also available bundled with calibration software/hardware, very much targeting pros. There is no such bundle of the R1800, so the target buyer is not the pro.

The build quality of the R1800 is pretty flimsy compared to the 2100, certainly not accepting a pro's abusive use.

All signs tells me that Epson will bring out a 2100/2200 replacement, probably costing double the price of the R1800. The only question is when.

[mdr]

I've read in BJP this week that the R1800 is not a replacement for the 2100/2200, and a replacement for the 2100/2200 is coming soon.

A couple of observations.

The printer prices are a good indication that the R1800 is not a replacement. If it was, then the 2100/2200 price would officially have droped below the R1800 price. It hasn't.

The 2100/2200 are also available bundled with calibration software/hardware, very much targeting pros. There is no such bundle of the R1800, so the target buyer is not the pro.

The build quality of the R1800 is pretty flimsy compared to the 2100, certainly not accepting a pro's abusive use.

All signs tells me that Epson will bring out a 2100/2200 replacement, probably costing double the price of the R1800. The only question is when.

[chtgrubbs]

I talked to an Epson rep recently who also said the the R1800 is not a replacement for the 2200, and that the 2200 would likely be replaced this summer.

[Bodog]

I understand the color gamut of the 1800 is a little smaller also.

[Hellashot]

The R1800 doesn't seem to be the official replacement for the 2200/2100... Epson is still selling the 2200/2100 too.

Of course it is. It was just released, so stores and Canon have stock of the 2200. The 10D is been eclipsed by 3 cameras in its price range now but is still on canon's website as their current line of cameras.