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aram535
27th of May 2009 (Wed), 14:05
Ok, Second try. Sorry about the first attempt, I didn't like the green background and after I converted them to jpeg, it just got uglier.

Here is the original story:

I've got a new project coming up . These are some test shots with similar bottles, actual product will be perfume (similar size/color). Please let me know what you do or don't like.


http://www.mbcli.com/%7Eawm/2009/BottleTest2_011.jpg

RMXSeven
27th of May 2009 (Wed), 18:07
Looking great!

The orange one's label is quite hard to read but I guess thats part of the difficulty in shooting this specific subject.

Also, the crop of the reflections seem to be a bit awkward. A tighter crop on the bottom might alleviate this. Perhaps less of a crop too lol.

~Ronen

buurin
27th of May 2009 (Wed), 19:10
This may / may not apply to the actual product shots but in this case:

Id remove the rear labels of the 2 leftmost bottles. I find the bar code in the middle one to be distracting. Also in the middle one there is some printed stamp on the bottom of the bottle.

I also agree the crop of the reflections needs improvement.

And maybe its just be but the focus seems off -- the photo looks soft around the bottle caps & text.
I think something has to be done about the readability of the yellow label. With this white background, I don't know what you can do other than trying to change the angle.

Do you have a setup shot? I am just curious about how you lit this.

PFDarkside
28th of May 2009 (Thu), 08:13
I'd love to see your lighting setup too. What are the dimensions of your base?

aram535
28th of May 2009 (Thu), 08:43
The shot they sent me is from a phone camera from the 1990s. I can tell it's perfume only because they said it in the email. They're in pre-production right now for more demo bottles and some fake liquid the same color/consistency.

That being said, no idea if they will have back labels, I doubt it. Also I'm hoping that it isn't clear. that was more of a problem than anything else. Although the White label on the orange is very hard to read.

As far as focus, it's f/16 I think and the focus is on the name (100mm FF) and from the orange bottle it looks pretty in focus. Let me know if you see something that I don't.

I'll do another crop, I was hoping to do a full reflection but I couldn't find a high enough angle to let me do that and keep everything readable. These are only about 3" tall.

Lighting setup attached.

aram535
28th of May 2009 (Thu), 08:45
I'd love to see your lighting setup too. What are the dimensions of your base?

It's a white (art store) sheet, 24" x 48". There is plexiglass underneath everything obviously. That's I think 20" x 36", not much bigger. The setup is still up in one of the stations so I'll take a shot later on today.

aram535
28th of May 2009 (Thu), 09:30
Here is the setup and an uncropped image. Also I figured out why the cap doesn't look sharp. I never went through my normal workflow for these, so they never got imported into LR and therefore were never sharpened. Good eye -- I didn't notice it until I went and looked at the original.

The "darker" area which was original cropped out is the reflection of the black muslin from behind the subjects. I just ran out of the white paper to cover the top as well.

http://www.mbcli.com/~awm/2009/BottleTest2_011-uncropped.jpg

The 580EX was pulled back so that there wouldn't be strain on the arm for nothing. It was directly above subject 's background area.

http://www.mbcli.com/~awm/2009/BottleTest2-setup.jpg

RMXSeven
28th of May 2009 (Thu), 18:46
Thanks for the setup shots.
Quick question,
In the uncropped version, the horizon is much harsher.
Any reason for this? Or was it softened PP originally?

~Ronen

aram535
28th of May 2009 (Thu), 18:52
Patch tool in photoshop.