View Full Version : rebel xt focus issues.please see( pics)
felix21685
26th of April 2005 (Tue), 01:21
hey guys
reading around i found the focus test which you are probably aware of..
now please take a look at my following 2 pictures.
the first was taken with my 28-80 sigma lens granted its not high end but i think it should still do better than what it did , no ?
the second one was taken with my sigma 70-300 DL macro II
this is also not a high end lens and look at the results..
is this all i can expect from my 2 sigma lenses ? will it be better with a new midrange-high end canon lens?
thanks for your help..
DReb-MO
26th of April 2005 (Tue), 03:20
I think it would be helpful to know whether you used AF or MF, the shutter speeed and AV. I am assuming this was from a steady tripod, or did you hand hold? All are relevant .
tim
26th of April 2005 (Tue), 04:27
I'd like the answers to those questions too, and also can you put the full sized files on a server somewhere so we can see them?
felix21685
26th of April 2005 (Tue), 11:43
alright guys heres the full size files.
http://dana.ucc.nau.edu/~fdt2/rc/xt/IMG_0509.JPG
exif:
1/50 f5.6 80mm tripod.
http://dana.ucc.nau.edu/~fdt2/rc/xt/IMG_0518.JPG
1/50 f5.6 214mm tripod (different lens)
Steven M. Anthony
26th of April 2005 (Tue), 14:40
Okay: The test board is not straight (perpendicular to the lens axis). It looks like the focus is fine onthe right side of the images--but because the left side of the test board is shifted a bit towards the camera, the focus seems off.
kawter2
26th of April 2005 (Tue), 14:43
What are your issues? overall sharpness or location of the focus..
BTW i don't really see an issue with either, given the lenses you have.... remember, ther is a reason that good lenses are so expensive
felix21685
26th of April 2005 (Tue), 14:45
do you think that if i spend more on a quality lens everything will be considerably sharper?
some macro shots which i did arent sharp like i want them to be..
is this only because of the lenses i own or is it partially the camera as well?
Jon
27th of April 2005 (Wed), 11:43
Try the same test outside in sunlight so you can use a higher shutter speed. Unless you used a remote release, you probably introduced a bit of vibration when you pressed the shutter. This may also have been a factor in your macro shots.
robertwgross
27th of April 2005 (Wed), 14:55
I agree with Jon.
Getting a good amount of light on the scale is important. Also, if possible, place some sort of high contrast target at the zero focus point (the word "perfectly"). I used a tiny red arrow that is about one centimeter long. If the autofocus system struggles with that, then there may be a real problem.
---Bob Gross---
Phil V
27th of April 2005 (Wed), 15:46
Okay: The test board is not straight (perpendicular to the lens axis). It looks like the focus is fine onthe right side of the images--but because the left side of the test board is shifted a bit towards the camera, the focus seems off.
Yep:rolleyes:
Michael_Lambert
27th of April 2005 (Wed), 17:14
Increase your Feild of Depth.. You are shooting at F/5.6 Increase it to f/11 or higher..
tim
27th of April 2005 (Wed), 17:28
Increase your Feild of Depth.. You are shooting at F/5.6 Increase it to f/11 or higher..
Nope, don't do that, that masks the issue. Shoot wide open, the camera should focus perfectly wide open. The image could be a little soft wide open, but that's different to focus.
Felix, do you have a URL to download that focus test?
fetching
27th of April 2005 (Wed), 18:27
can someone please point me in the direction of one of these focus tests?
glangston
27th of April 2005 (Wed), 18:41
You can pretty much lay a nice metal or wood ruler out on a flat surface and then shoot down on it's length at a 45 angle, focusing on a given mark and them comparing the depth of field in front of the mark and behind it. Should be roughly equal. I'd use a tripod, cable release and mirror lockup to get the best info. Plenty of light so focus issues are not prevalent and shutter speed can be adequate. All this was advice I got back a few weeks or months ago.
Michael_Lambert
27th of April 2005 (Wed), 18:44
Nope, don't do that, that masks the issue. Shoot wide open, the camera should focus perfectly wide open. The image could be a little soft wide open, but that's different to focus.
Felix, do you have a URL to download that focus test?
But you are not going to get the whole image Sharp and clear shooting at a F/5.6 on an angle???
tim
27th of April 2005 (Wed), 18:49
But you are not going to get the whole image Sharp and clear shooting at a F/5.6 on an angle???
That's the point of a focus test - you want to see if it focuses where you tell it, the way you do that is by focusing on the centre of the image and using a narrow depth of field. If you use a small aperture for a large DOF you're defeating the purpose of doing a focus test.
felix21685
27th of April 2005 (Wed), 20:53
i am not at home right now when i get home ill look and see where i got it from
Michael_Lambert
28th of April 2005 (Thu), 18:24
I found this?
http://www.photo.net/learn/focustest/
felix21685
28th of April 2005 (Thu), 18:28
i saw that one too
the one i used is here
http://md.co.za/d70/chart.html
tim
28th of April 2005 (Thu), 18:51
http://md.co.za/d70/chart.html
That's a great resource, especially for people who don't already understand how camera focusing systems work. I have to assume that the D70 descriptions he gave apply to the Canon range too.
Johnny V
29th of April 2005 (Fri), 21:27
Here's a really good chart too:
http://www.canon-dslr.com/Canon_Jan05/Canon_SLR_Focus_Test.htm
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