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Huckaback Photo
26th of April 2005 (Tue), 07:54
Now thats got your attention.
I hear people saying to themselves "it can't be done"

not true a mate has just brought his 18 to 55 EFS lens and I fitted it to my D60 and my 1D mk2 and took some close up shots.

all you need for this to work is a 12mm extension tube.

I was so suprised thought I would post an image for all to see.

just hand held and not to special but is proof that this works.

Martin (Huckaback Photo)

defordphoto
26th of April 2005 (Tue), 08:05
Hah! And "everyone" says this lens is crap. The extension doesn't make it a very useful lens, but that's sure a nice, sharp photo.

Huckaback Photo
26th of April 2005 (Tue), 08:09
Cheers Jim
my mate Quadphoto (on here ) just turned up with the lens, realised this worked and just had to share with all the forum.

Thanks for quick reply
Martin (Huckaback Photo)

PS. obviously you lose infinity focus but close up is fine.

Longwatcher
26th of April 2005 (Tue), 08:29
Now I am really curious what a 10-22 EF-s would do with the extension tube on a 1DsMkII.
I only have the EF 25 II extension tube (I could cheat a bit with that) but really can't afford to pick up a 10-22 just to try it. Wondering if I can find a camera store that will let me borrow one for a few minutes.

Cadwell
26th of April 2005 (Tue), 08:56
Martin, I'm presuming those are crops since in theory the EF-S lens only projects an image large enough for a 1.6x sensor?

kawter2
26th of April 2005 (Tue), 09:04
Now I am really curious what a 10-22 EF-s would do with the extension tube on a 1DsMkII.
I only have the EF 25 II extension tube (I could cheat a bit with that) but really can't afford to pick up a 10-22 just to try it. Wondering if I can find a camera store that will let me borrow one for a few minutes.

I would be VERRY interested in this as well!! I have a 10-22 and would like the idea of it working on a 1 serries..


Anyone in OC CA with a MKII wanna meet up sometime we can test it out

Huckaback Photo
26th of April 2005 (Tue), 10:32
A bit more info
this image was not a crop its the full image as taken in camera.
I first tested on my older D60 and worked fine, so I then tried the 1 D mk2 the result is the 1 st shot above we were gobsmacked.
put it in PS. levels were OK, I run Luminance sharpen action on the image and then save for web
to get it to 800 wide under 100kb.

the camera was set at ... medium jpeg ....AV mode
Hand held.....1/40 th......f 5.6......400 ISO at the 55mm setting without any flash.

Glen
I just done a crop from the above shot. its below.

Cheers
Martin ( Huckaback Photo)

I've not seen mention of this before, perhaps it will make me famous, ????
I can cope with that.

Huckaback Photo
26th of April 2005 (Tue), 10:39
Just a thought
dont judge this cropped picture from your desk, walk away 6ft and look, imagine viewing a 4ft print its bound to look soft up close.
Martin

Dante King
26th of April 2005 (Tue), 10:41
Martin, I'm presuming those are crops since in theory the EF-S lens only projects an image large enough for a 1.6x sensor?

I am very curious to know as well. These cant be full sensor shots? can they?
:confused:

Huckaback Photo
26th of April 2005 (Tue), 11:12
I promise the first image really is the full frame taken on 1D mk2
using the setup you see in the second second picture.
my second was taken with the D60 and a 17 to 40mm L.
So that I could show you all how the 18 to 55mm EFS lens with canon 12mm extension tube,
works on the cameras THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO WORK ON.

the first picture I did was with the D60.
the whole image as shot is now posted below

Cheers
Martin (Huckaback Photo)

Dante King
26th of April 2005 (Tue), 11:15
Very cool idea and results!

Headcase650
26th of April 2005 (Tue), 11:28
A 1D mkII is still a 1.3 crop camera. Some one needs to test it on a 1DS to see if it will cast a full 35mm image on the sensor.

I think the above results are outstanding!

Huckaback Photo
26th of April 2005 (Tue), 11:59
Thanks Guys.

Headcase650
quite agree with you, someone out there must have the right collection of kit to try it.
any offers
help....needed A 1Ds...plus a EFS... plus a 12mm extension tube,
it could of course be tested with a 35mm body and some print film.
but is worth checking out.

This all came about from my mate ( quadphoto on here) saying he might get rid of that lens
realising it was no good to myself, then I looked at the projecting rear of the 18 to 55 and thought extension tube,

Martin (Huckaback Photo)

Jon
26th of April 2005 (Tue), 12:00
Shove a long enough extension tube on it, and it will cover anything. The coverage is actually a cone emanating from the rear nodal point. At design focal length, it covers as per spec (27 mm). If you move the lens away from the sensor, the field (not angle) of coverage gets larger. Shove a 12 mm extension tube on a 10-22 EF-S and you'll be working at between 1/4 and 1/2 life size. Not terribly useful, given the working distance for those focal lengths.

Huckaback Photo
26th of April 2005 (Tue), 12:29
Jon
Thanks for that info,I sort of had a feeling by moving lens away from body it would cover OK
years ago I did lots of Bellows work and my lenses were flat field enlarger lenses, including a 80mm, 50mm and a 30 mm, the 30mm was designed to work for 1/2 frame film format, covering the whole frame was not a problem, and huge magnifications on bellows.

where this could be useful for others, they may buy say new 60 mm EFS macro lens to use with 300D or 20 D.
Later upgrade to a body that will not take EFS fit so lens is redundant.
this may not be the case with use of extension tube behind that lens.
I do appreciate your imput.

Martin (Huckaback Photo)

Longwatcher
26th of April 2005 (Tue), 13:43
If someone happened to live in the Hampton Roads area of Virginia (SE VA) had a EF-s lens (even better a 10-22), I would be willing to use my 1DsMkII and extension tube to try it out (after I try it on my 10D first). Am willing to probably let you play with 1DsMkII for a few shots in return.

Longwatcher
28th of April 2005 (Thu), 09:31
Arggh!!
I had my hands on a 10-22 Ef-s lens, my 1DsMkII and my 25mm extension tube only to find out I have an old one and the Ef-s lenses will only mount to the new tubes.

However as it was at a tech show with Canon reps, they were fairly sure that while it would mount it would not be able to focus even with the shorter tube. I still want to try it for myself though.

Huckaback Photo
28th of April 2005 (Thu), 16:33
Hi Longwatcher
Thanks for your input ,
now how often have we heard a Canon rep say something wont work !!! etc.
been a bit of confusion on here within the last few days, I believe, regards what had been said by a rep.
I used it without any problem with my 1D mk2 and also my D60 .
good point you made about the previous version of extension tube ( no EFS lenses around when they came out)
the suprise was the quallity that came from the lens.

Cheers Martin

mbze430
28th of April 2005 (Thu), 17:48
I don't think the 10-22 will focus correctly. I tried my EF12 II on the 15mm fisheye, and it can never focus. Matter afact, trying to manual focus is not even possible. I would assume that at 10 it's going to result in the same. 22 might be able to, but probably lose infinite.

Huckaback Photo
29th of April 2005 (Fri), 00:44
My second post I did mention you lose infinety.
I dont know of any lens once fitted to a extension tube that would still allow infinety focus to work
my thoughts were that the lens could be used for close up shots. and certainly if it were the EFS 60mm macro it could be fitted to cameras that the EFS series will not normally fit.
Do you see any problem with the focus in my shots above.I think not.

Cheers
Martin (Huckaback Photo)

I do not own this lens, but thought someone may find this usefull.

raylks
29th of April 2005 (Fri), 02:38
This is a very clever way to test the sharpness of EF-S lens with the aid of a full frame camera!
Not too bad EFS is.

Huckaback Photo
22nd of July 2005 (Fri), 02:22
Just wondered if anyone else on here had tested this out for themselves ?

should have produced interesting results from the EFS 60mm macro on a 1D mk2 or 1Ds Mk2,
as already pointed out full frame would be a good test of lens quallity.

Martin (Huckaback Photo)

Huckaback Photo
27th of September 2005 (Tue), 03:17
Just brought this back to the top.
Wondering if anybody has had the chance to test the EFS 60mm macro fitted with a 12mm extension tube on a 1Ds.
this really would be a good test of EFS lenses at full frame.

Thanks
Martin (Huckaback Photo)