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dolina
30th of May 2009 (Sat), 15:54
This is shipping in limited quantities worldwide so post your samples here.

Mention what body you used it on and if you used LiveView.

nazdravanul
31st of May 2009 (Sun), 02:46
Did you see it shipping anywhere ?

pdjetlic
15th of June 2009 (Mon), 16:02
I've tried TS-E24mm II on one presentation. Can say it's build very nicely. Didn't have enough time to try it because everyone wanted to get their hands on it. This was pre-production model. I've also seen TS-E 17mm, but had no chance of touching it :)

timnosenzo
31st of July 2009 (Fri), 12:17
Alright, I've had this lens for about 2 weeks now, but have only had a few opportunities to try it out so far. Not sure if anyone else out there has one yet, but I figured I would try and kick off this thread a bit. :)

Initial impression? I sold my 45 TS-E in order to buy this one. I'm still not 100% sure whether I will find the 24mm FL better than the 45mm FL yet. For landscape and architecture photos, the 24 is easier to use, for general stuff I am still trying to get used to the wide angle. Build quality wise, this lens is MUCH nicer than the 45. It's built like a tank, it feels much more solid, and the movements are smoother. The focusing ring is big and movement of it is very well dampened and smooth. It also has a lock for the tilt movement, which is nice to keep it from moving accidentally when taking it in and out of the bag. Having the freedom to rotate the tilt and shift planes independently is also a really nice feature.

Here's a picture OF the lens. :)

http://www.timnosenzo.com/photos/597499078_CU8fi-L.jpg

And here's a few of the pictures I've taken with it so far. Nothing spectacular, but I'm still in the "getting to know you" stage with this lens. :o

http://www.timnosenzo.com/photos/606875397_f6gBC-L.jpg

http://www.timnosenzo.com/photos/602155541_WQ5JG-L.jpg

http://www.timnosenzo.com/photos/606002448_94Jav-L.jpg

xoldboy
31st of July 2009 (Fri), 13:30
tim, those shots look really good, cant wait to see some more shots!

timnosenzo
6th of August 2009 (Thu), 10:16
tim, those shots look really good, cant wait to see some more shots!

Thanks!

Here's one from yesterday, this is shifted down a bit, and tilted to reduce the DOF.

http://www.timnosenzo.com/photos/612565028_rVP26-L-1.jpg

jenabean4
13th of August 2009 (Thu), 17:32
Wow! GREAT SHOTS! I am thinking about getting one of these bad boys (one day) Haha! Love it, post more when you can!

Does anyone have the 17mm?

sebmour
13th of August 2009 (Thu), 22:38
Did you own the first version? how does it compare?

I am expecting the TS-E 17mm tomorrow in the mail as a loaner from Canon. I get to play with it for 2 weeks :P but I am thinking more about the Ts-E 24LII

timnosenzo
18th of August 2009 (Tue), 12:19
Did you own the first version? how does it compare?

I didn't own the 24 TS-E, but I did own the 45 TS-E. Build quality wise, there is no comparison--the new TS-E is MUCH nicer. Being able to rotate the shift and tilt movements independently is also a really nice feature; it opens up a lot of possibilities.

I am expecting the TS-E 17mm tomorrow in the mail as a loaner from Canon. I get to play with it for 2 weeks :P but I am thinking more about the Ts-E 24LII

The 17mm looks really sweet as well, but I know for me, I will get more use out of the 24. I wouldn't rule out picking up the 17 in the future though. ;)

Also, The Digital Picture posted a nice review of this lens worth checking out:

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-TS-E-24mm-f-3.5-L-II-Tilt-Shift-Lens-Review.aspx

Scuff
6th of September 2009 (Sun), 15:22
I have been using the Mk1 TSE-24 and the TSE-90 for quite a while, and like many, I was excited about the new TS-E's when Canon announced them.

First reviews seemed very positive on both the new 17mm and 24mm. The decision I had to make was which one to purchase. I looked at the negatives of each lens and, for me, the 17mm came second mainly due to the exposed front element and the uncomfortable perspective given for exteriors when shifting (should be great for interiors though).

So the 24 arrived and today was its' first outing. Typical English weather left me with a flatly lit afternoon as I spent a bit of time at Rockingham Castle.

I have to say that the lens is worth every penny (cent). It is very sharp with virtually no CA. I would not hesitate to recommend it to those thinking of buying a TS-E. I would go so far as to say that even those considering the standard 24L may wish to give it a serious look.

Here are some test shots.......



This first one shows how close you can focus, the lens was swung 4 degrees right to place the plane of focus along the flower.

http://www.gtmedia.com/Photos/Rockham1.jpg



A general view with 0.5 of downward tilt applied.

http://www.gtmedia.com/Photos/Rockham2.jpg


Here I used 2 degrees of tilt forward to start the plane of focus under the camera to infinity given the camera height of around 5ft 6inches. The front of the lens was dropped 4mm to keep the buildings from 'bending the wrong way'.

http://www.gtmedia.com/Photos/Rockham3.jpg


A shot with no adjustments !!! :-)

http://www.gtmedia.com/Photos/Rockham4.jpg


Flat lighting and a drab sky... but shifting the lens up 3mm kept the verticals looking 'normal'.

http://www.gtmedia.com/Photos/Rockham5.jpg


And finaly, a tilt of 2.5 degrees altered the plane of focus enough to keep the seat in focus from back to front.

http://www.gtmedia.com/Photos/Rockham6.jpg

timnosenzo
6th of September 2009 (Sun), 17:14
I have to say that the lens is worth every penny (cent). It is very sharp with virtually no CA. I would not hesitate to recommend it to those thinking of buying a TS-E. I would go so far as to say that even those considering the standard 24L may wish to give it a serious look.


Agreed. This lens is *astounding*.

Couple more from me:

http://www.timnosenzo.com/photos/635496197_9HDzg-L.jpg

http://www.timnosenzo.com/photos/631750661_RY9C7-L.jpg

http://www.timnosenzo.com/photos/624233671_FNacT-L.jpg

brownbugger
9th of September 2009 (Wed), 02:17
Agreed. This lens is *astounding*.

Couple more from me:

http://www.timnosenzo.com/photos/635496197_9HDzg-L.jpg

http://www.timnosenzo.com/photos/631750661_RY9C7-L.jpg

http://www.timnosenzo.com/photos/624233671_FNacT-L.jpg

loved #1 , where is this lens available ? b&h & other online stores show it in backorder or out of stock , will this be a limited edition ?

timnosenzo
9th of September 2009 (Wed), 06:42
loved #1 , where is this lens available ? b&h & other online stores show it in backorder or out of stock , will this be a limited edition ?

Thanks!

I think it's just difficult to get now because it's still relatively new and Canon has limited production on lenses like this. I just kept an eye on B&H's stock status and grabbed one when they had them. They don't usually last long though. :)

iAMB
10th of September 2009 (Thu), 14:48
How difficult did you find the learning curve for this lens? I am thinking about selling my Tokina 11-16 to help fund for the 24 ts-e. I thought I would use the Tokina lens to help with wide angle shots of buildings, but it gives a big distortion. It seems that it just sits in my bag. I am an architecture student so the ts-e would definitely make sense. I also am hoping to go Fullframe by next summer as well.

Scuff
25th of September 2009 (Fri), 17:55
Here are a few more, this lens can really focus close!!!!

Taken with a 1ds2 - so no live view (but a very bright viewfinder)

http://www.gtmedia.com/photos/BCM-1.jpg


http://www.gtmedia.com/photos/BCM-2.jpg


http://www.gtmedia.com/photos/BCM-3.jpg


http://www.gtmedia.com/photos/BCM-4.jpg


http://www.gtmedia.com/photos/BCM-5.jpg

robonrome
24th of October 2009 (Sat), 04:32
Here are a few more, this lens can really focus close!!!




wow scuff I'm inspired, I love this close stuff... I want it:cool:

ast
28th of October 2009 (Wed), 02:03
more pictures please! I am facsinated by what this lens is capable and the quality.

GMCPhotographics
28th of October 2009 (Wed), 19:07
I've just had my first play with one of these sweet hearts at the UK Canon-Pro Solutions Day 2009.
Here's a shot from my 5DII....through my usual Post Prod:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2604/4054133636_8edc45d270_o.jpg

It's a seriously nice piece of glass.

Regards,

Gareth

Treat me like a tourist
29th of October 2009 (Thu), 18:04
Thanks!

I think it's just difficult to get now because it's still relatively new and Canon has limited production on lenses like this. I just kept an eye on B&H's stock status and grabbed one when they had them. They don't usually last long though. :)

I love the layout of your blog where did you find such a code?

ast
30th of October 2009 (Fri), 00:38
This lens always render some kind of artistic feel to the photos. Intriguing!!!

I've just had my first play with one of these sweet hearts at the UK Canon-Pro Solutions Day 2009.
Here's a shot from my 5DII....through my usual Post Prod:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2604/4054133636_8edc45d270_o.jpg

It's a seriously nice piece of glass.

Regards,

Gareth

Todd Lambert
30th of October 2009 (Fri), 00:53
Damnit! Stop posting pictures! I can't spend $2300 right now!

Argh!

ast
31st of October 2009 (Sat), 03:46
my TS-E 24 II is on its way. Urah!

ast
2nd of November 2009 (Mon), 23:28
Just got mine a four hours ago. Very exciting yet very intimidating!

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh40/abetong/IMG_0329.jpg

GMCPhotographics
3rd of November 2009 (Tue), 04:22
...tis a thing of beauty

onefstopshort
3rd of November 2009 (Tue), 10:09
Still waiting for DHL to deliver mine. Should be here tomorrow at the latest.
This thread needs lots more pictures!

ast
4th of November 2009 (Wed), 00:46
Wondering what filter, UV or Polarizer, is recommended for TS-E 24 II ?

The hood came with the package can't protect the lens at all. The manual recommend to use a Canon 85mm Ciruclar Polarizer filter. Will it fit? Anybody use other filters?

onefstopshort
4th of November 2009 (Wed), 07:50
I just ordered a 82mm Hoya UV filter. I went for the higher grade pro-digital ones, it is the same as I have on my other L lenses.

One thing the lens has an 82mmm thread not 85mm.
edit: A few pics (not great I know, but this lens has a huge learning curve)
3shot shifted pano:
http://photos3.pix.ie/61/96/61964FB6E05C4247B4B2D4550F8C11C3-500.jpg (http://pix.ie/ttcomet/1325421)

No tilt or shift:
http://photos5.pix.ie/FE/E4/FEE45FF56B2642D7BE33B0AB8CD4F7BC-800.jpg (http://pix.ie/ttcomet/1325418)

I have no idea :). I had the shift rotated and the tilt rotated and some tilt and shift applied on top of that.
http://photos3.pix.ie/B2/37/B237B5FA3B67488F8CFAE7E03271A61A-500.jpg (http://pix.ie/ttcomet/1325414)

GMCPhotographics
8th of November 2009 (Sun), 09:09
I currently have a TS-e 45mm, which is a fine lens. I particularly like to take panos with it, but with the 45mm focal length, it's not too wide. I recon that I'm hitting about 28mm with a 3 shot pano in landscape format. What would a TS-e 24mm offer me in terms of pano equivelent focal length?

wimg
8th of November 2009 (Sun), 09:56
I currently have a TS-e 45mm, which is a fine lens. I particularly like to take panos with it, but with the 45mm focal length, it's not too wide. I recon that I'm hitting about 28mm with a 3 shot pano in landscape format. What would a TS-e 24mm offer me in terms of pano equivelent focal length?

TS-E 24L II FoV equivalent for panos: 14.4 mm horizontal, 18 mm vertical, see: http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/tilt-shift-lenses1.htm

Note: 12 mm shift. And yes, the TS-E 45 (11 mm shift) gives you ~28 mm horizontal, and 35 mm vertical.

BTW, the TS-E 17: 10.2 horizontal, and 12.8 vertical :D.

Kind regards, Wim

GMCPhotographics
8th of November 2009 (Sun), 10:17
Thanks Wim

Really appreciated!

onefstopshort
8th of November 2009 (Sun), 15:36
A few more shots on the 5D.
I still have no idea how to use the lens, it is going to take a lot more getting used to. I may get a different focusing screen for the 5D, I need all the help I can get with it.

No tilt or shift:
http://photos5.pix.ie/DF/1E/DF1E8951B54240F5BF939D63A7FFB0ED-500.jpg (http://pix.ie/ttcomet/1335970)

Another shifted Pano:
http://photos5.pix.ie/71/4E/714E7D84C888497B9D7690D618836106-800.jpg (http://pix.ie/ttcomet/1335971)

Tilted fully:
http://photos5.pix.ie/AB/56/AB568226F4AF412A86BD0FECBDBE3256-500.jpg (http://pix.ie/ttcomet/1335967)

http://photos4.pix.ie/E8/83/E8836EE15A7446308216BDBB8D18037B-500.jpg (http://pix.ie/ttcomet/1335957)

robonrome
8th of November 2009 (Sun), 21:00
A few more shots on the 5D.
I still have no idea how to use the lens, it is going to take a lot more getting used to. I may get a different focusing screen for the 5D, I need all the help I can get with it.


http://photos4.pix.ie/E8/83/E8836EE15A7446308216BDBB8D18037B-500.jpg (http://pix.ie/ttcomet/1335957)

I love the "toyland" look and feel of this... :D This is why I want a TS-E

ast
8th of November 2009 (Sun), 21:08
Testing my new TS-E 24L II.

Maximum horizontally tilted:

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh40/abetong/IMG_0477_1.jpg

ast
8th of November 2009 (Sun), 21:10
Cont'd.


No Tilt/Shift at all:

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh40/abetong/IMG_0479_1.jpg


Maximum horizontally tilted:

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh40/abetong/IMG_0481_1.jpg

Scuff
10th of November 2009 (Tue), 02:19
Here are a couple from last week, the more I use it, the more I like it..... :cool:

http://www.gtmedia.com/photos/Rainbow%20at%20Derwent%20Water.jpg


http://www.gtmedia.com/photos/Autumn in the fells.jpg

onefstopshort
10th of November 2009 (Tue), 12:09
On a 1d2N:
http://photos2.pix.ie/48/AE/48AE2F4AFEA74AB38DA2D00782285E19-800.jpg (http://pix.ie/ttcomet/1338367)

jetcode
10th of November 2009 (Tue), 12:13
Just got mine a four hours ago. Very exciting yet very intimidating!

if you are overwhelmed I live not to far from you and would be happy to take it for a spin.

Cyclone_S
12th of November 2009 (Thu), 06:43
Here are a couple from last week, the more I use it, the more I like it..... :cool:

http://www.gtmedia.com/photos/Rainbow%20at%20Derwent%20Water.jpg


http://www.gtmedia.com/photos/Autumn in the fells.jpg


Nice shots, love the composition of the 2nd one. Were they tilt-shifted at all? I'm considering getting this as a landscape lens and would like to know what others think.

Scuff
12th of November 2009 (Thu), 11:25
Nice shots, love the composition of the 2nd one. Were they tilt-shifted at all? I'm considering getting this as a landscape lens and would like to know what others think.

The second shot had about 2 degrees of tilt applied. The lens is superbly sharp and I will be using it without concern for anything that 24mm can be used for!!!!

brownbugger
12th of November 2009 (Thu), 11:30
awesome images guys, i am really tempted to get this

windpig
12th of December 2009 (Sat), 13:23
I picked up the 90mm last week and have the 24mm on order. The 90mm is incredibly sharp. Using it is very inspirational, it makes me look at composition in a different way. I'm not much into the "miniature" looking shots, but shooting the extended DOF and isolation of flowers using tilt. The shift is awesome, large fishing vessels and ships up close, along with buildings. You really can not appreciate how cool these lenses are until you try one. If you rent one, read up on how to use them before hand. It's not as difficult as it appears, it just takes a bit to get your mind wrapped around the concept (at least it did with me).

ken2000ac
12th of December 2009 (Sat), 16:26
Seeing as how this lens is selling out every time it appears online, there must be folks out there with it. I'd love to see this thread blow up with some examples.

Can't get enough of the recent TS-E offerings from Canon.

windpig
12th of December 2009 (Sat), 18:09
Seeing as how this lens is selling out every time it appears online, there must be folks out there with it. I'd love to see this thread blow up with some examples.

Can't get enough of the recent TS-E offerings from Canon.

B&H just got stock, I canceled my order with adorama 'cause the don't know when they will get them. I went through bing.com, got 6% cash back through adorama if the order would have gone through, not sure what I'll get through B&H. I'm stoked!

Misiek
13th of December 2009 (Sun), 06:04
I'm always sad that there are so few pictures from T&S lenses :/

J-B
13th of December 2009 (Sun), 06:07
This thread needs more photos, I agree :)

zone555
14th of December 2009 (Mon), 01:46
Rented this lens for a weekend. Addictive. Simply addictive.

Hope you don't mind my rookie T/S shot, but this was one of my faves. I'm amazed by the miniature effect and focus isolation. Handheld on a 7D:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4001/4183492385_7907dcaa29_b.jpg

smashing.poot
14th of December 2009 (Mon), 14:28
Here are a couple from last week, the more I use it, the more I like it..... :cool:

http://www.gtmedia.com/photos/Rainbow%20at%20Derwent%20Water.jpg


http://www.gtmedia.com/photos/Autumn%20in%20the%20fells.jpg

Excellent landscapes here with crisp composition and colors. Keep posting more. Lovely stuff.

windpig
17th of December 2009 (Thu), 20:10
Just arrived today. Used the 90mm t and s at f/2.8 to take a quick shot.

windpig
17th of December 2009 (Thu), 20:13
BTW, above was taken with 7.5 degrees down tilt, focus plane is directly across the top of the box.

J-B
20th of December 2009 (Sun), 19:10
I actually ordered a Zeiss distagon 21mm ZE, but I've got a TS-E24II try for a while.
(here's the story about that: http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=9227055&postcount=169)

This lens is so incredibly sharp, it must be the sharpest canon lens I've ever tried (and I own/have tried some great lenses) and no CA. Incredible.
The tilt and shift is fun.

When the Zeiss is back in stock, I can choose. Keep the TS-E24II and pay extra or exchange it for the zeiss.
Although I had desided to buy the Zeiss, I'm in doubt now :eek:

wimg
20th of December 2009 (Sun), 19:22
I actually ordered a Zeiss distagon 21mm ZE, but I've got a TS-E24II try for a while.
(here's the story about that: http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=9227055&postcount=169)

This lens is so incredibly sharp, it must be the sharpest canon lens I've ever tried (and I own/have tried some great lenses) and no CA. Incredible.
The tilt and shift is fun.

When the Zeiss is back in stock, I can choose. Keep the TS-E24II and pay extra or exchange it for the zeiss.
Although I had desided to buy the Zeiss, I'm in doubt now :eek:
These guys at the shop know what they do....

Keep the TS-E 24, and then try the TS-E 17 while you're at it ... :lol:

Kind regards, Wim ;)

J-B
20th of December 2009 (Sun), 19:45
These guys at the shop know what they do....

Keep the TS-E 24, and then try the TS-E 17 while you're at it ... :lol:

Kind regards, Wim ;)

They suggested me to take the Zeiss 18mm with me till the 21mm would be in stock, but I asked about the TS-E24II. No problem, they wanted to offer a solution. Few moments later they came back with a TS-E17 (remember, I paid for a zeiss 21 which is a LOT cheaper:)), but no thanks. That one is just too expensive, so I didn't want to take that one with me to try :lol:

EdBray
21st of December 2009 (Mon), 03:25
The TSE24L II shifted horizontally both ways and stitched together will give you a much wider AOV than the 21mm Zeiss. Then use a touch of tilt to make the focus plane along the ground and you have the perfect landscape lens for digital bodies.

J-B
26th of December 2009 (Sat), 07:30
Nothing special, just a testshot in the backyard. This lens has great flare and CA control!

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4069/4216929543_6e5bb1e529_o.jpg

JelleVerherstraeten
27th of December 2009 (Sun), 08:16
I want to see more pictures!!

zincozinco
27th of December 2009 (Sun), 15:18
try and not make me to dissapointed, I just picked up a UW datecode - last of its kind MK I iteration of this lens. Is it worse and if so why?? I thought id ask here as you guys would know.

J-B
28th of December 2009 (Mon), 09:06
I have decided to keep the TS-E24II instead of the Zeiss 21ZE that I originally ordered.
The control over perspective and depth of field is addicting and it's just fun to use.

This is the best canon lens I've tried so far. It -for example- puts my 35L to shame in pure image quality (but ofcourse, that lens has other qualities).


try and not make me to dissapointed, I just picked up a UW datecode - last of its kind MK I iteration of this lens. Is it worse and if so why?? I thought id ask here as you guys would know.

What do you mean exactly? Are you asking about the date code or how it compares to the mkII version?

Date code doesn't matter I think, haven't heard anything about bad ts-e24 date codes.

Compared to the TS-E24II:
It's not as good.
The mark II is sharper, has better CA control, has a nicer build and you can rotate tilt & shift both independently.

Don't feel bad, the mark I is a lot cheaper.

zincozinco
28th of December 2009 (Mon), 09:51
Compared to the TS-E24II:
It's not as good.
The mark II is sharper, has better CA control, has a nicer build and you can rotate tilt & shift both independently.

Don't feel bad, the mark I is a lot cheaper.

jus made me feel bad.... :)

windpig
1st of January 2010 (Fri), 21:00
I want to see more pictures!!
Well, I've not had any time to play with this lens since I got it. Here is a pic from my messing around today. both eyes in focus. I love these T and S thingies.

robonrome
3rd of January 2010 (Sun), 04:56
I bought this lens in Bangkok a month ago before heading out to an archaeological dig in the northeast of the country. It's my first TS lens and I'm still at the base of the learning curve.

I thought this would be a great lens for photographing into and down in the pits we're digging - e.g. to correct perspective and to get good depth of field at fast apertures (not much light in the pits). It shows a lot of promise, but still very much gettiing the hang of it. Had a go below at using the tilt up to place a narrow band of focus over the artefacts at the bottom of the pit.

The last one of the dig team at rest I have no idea what I did... somehow managed to get a band of focus straight down the centre:confused:

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4040/223hf.jpg

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/4403/220hf.jpg

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/4107/217hf.jpg

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/3479/216hf.jpg

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5491/214hf.jpg

And an attempt at foreground to background focus with a wide aperture of F5 - allowed a fast enough shutter speed to avoid wind blur on the grass.

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/2976/woodgate011hf.jpg

Misiek
3rd of January 2010 (Sun), 07:41
What's the price of this baby in the US?
rob: love the second photo :)

timnosenzo
3rd of January 2010 (Sun), 08:08
The last one of the dig team at rest I have no idea what I did... somehow managed to get a band of focus straight down the centre:confused:

It looks like you had the lens tilted to the left or right. ;)

J-B
3rd of January 2010 (Sun), 12:53
A few from today.
My fingers were nearly frozen, not easy to twist those tilt&shift knobs in this cold weather.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2612/4241543622_a1cc83a1cc.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4070/4240770063_238bed8480.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2737/4241542992_cc5250c2c6.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2622/4241535162_8652e23568.jpg

JC4
4th of January 2010 (Mon), 14:06
Wow, some great stuff here. You all kill me. Just ordered one from ebay, bing 8%. :)

Some of the images in this thread are spectacular. Of course its not the lens, but still, the Ts-e looks like a fun tool to experiment with some new ideas. I needed something new to spark some motivation in the cold. I should have had it shipped overnight. :)

Misiek
4th of January 2010 (Mon), 14:48
What is the price JC4? :D

Maybe I'll think about getting one from US...

JC4
4th of January 2010 (Mon), 15:08
$2,197(pmidigital on ebay) - 8%(bing) free s/h. Got my tracking number, should have it by Wednesday. Woot!

J-B
4th of January 2010 (Mon), 15:58
$2,197(pmidigital on ebay) - 8%(bing) free s/h. Got my tracking number, should have it by Wednesday. Woot!

Congrats JC4!
Post some photos in this thread :)

DwightMcCann
4th of January 2010 (Mon), 17:22
I have this lens but haven't had much luck with trying to use it for some product shots of a Pandora bracelet using tilt ... mostly I can't focus it as when I focus on the far part and then try to tilt to focus on the near part the whole image shifts and no longer has the bracelet centered. Anyone point me to tutorials on how to go about using tilt in macro ranges?

robonrome
4th of January 2010 (Mon), 17:32
I have this lens but haven't had much luck with trying to use it for some product shots of a Pandora bracelet using tilt ... mostly I can't focus it as when I focus on the far part and then try to tilt to focus on the near part the whole image shifts and no longer has the bracelet centered. Anyone point me to tutorials on how to go about using tilt in macro ranges?

me too, actually tutorials on TS in any range would be great;)

robonrome
4th of January 2010 (Mon), 17:35
It looks like you had the lens tilted to the left or right. ;)

DOH, that would be it:rolleyes:

wimg
4th of January 2010 (Mon), 18:34
I have this lens but haven't had much luck with trying to use it for some product shots of a Pandora bracelet using tilt ... mostly I can't focus it as when I focus on the far part and then try to tilt to focus on the near part the whole image shifts and no longer has the bracelet centered. Anyone point me to tutorials on how to go about using tilt in macro ranges?
What I do is focus on the centre part of the object to be in focus, either using an Angle Finder at 2.5X magnification, or LiveView, than slowly tilt the lens in the appropriate direction, in very tiny amounts, and in turn readjust focus and tilt, until I am happy with the result in the VF, checked at 1X magnification as well. Next shoot, with manual settings as measured prior to tilting, adjusting with exposure correction until I get a shot I like, exposure wise (which may well be the first shot). You could use a handheld exposure meter here if you'd like to.

If the result of focusing and tilting doesn't look right yet, I will do more adjusting, in turns as described above, and shoot again, until I am happy.

In macro mode the focus plane will always be shallow, whatever way it is tilted, so I think the above described method is the only way to deal with it when getting really close.

And with practice, like with most things, it gets easier to do :D.

HTH, kind regards, Wim

EdBray
5th of January 2010 (Tue), 09:35
I have had this lens for a few weeks now but have not had the opportunity to use it to it's best. All this will hopefully change now that I have a 1DsMk3 which will allow its full AOV to be utilised.

I took these images as a wind-up as they were all taken at with the same camera settings but with the use of the tilt function as swing. 1/10 sec @ f3.5 exif intact

http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m338/EdBray/bat1.jpg

http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m338/EdBray/bat2.jpg

http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m338/EdBray/bat3.jpg

rmlewis1
5th of January 2010 (Tue), 21:15
me too, actually tutorials on TS in any range would be great;)

I just purchased the earlier version of this lens off eBay - if I can work out how to successfully use it I may upgrade to the current version.

I found this article informative - http://www.davidsummerhayes.com/Focusing%20the%20tilt-shift%20lens.pdf

J-B
7th of January 2010 (Thu), 07:14
Here's another link that could be useful:
http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/article_pages/tilt_and_shift_ts-e.html

EdBray
7th of January 2010 (Thu), 15:03
Couldn't get out today as I was looking after my ill Grandson, whilst he had a snooze I took the opportunity to shoot a 3 shot burst out of the front door on my 1Ds Mk3 at +2, 0, -2 and merged to HDR in PS CS4.

This combination is stunning, no tilt or shift just a straight shot!

http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m338/EdBray/24LTSE_HDR2.jpg

100% Crop

http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m338/EdBray/24LTSE100.jpg

JC4
7th of January 2010 (Thu), 19:17
Just got it last night, and snowed pretty heavy today, so haven't done much but try and learn how to use it. Did get up on the roof after dusk, and tried a shift panorama, just to see how wide it gets with out moving the camera.

Our backyard with just a bit cropped off the top and bottom, full left + right shift, stitched in CS4.
Second image is the uncropped, unedited version, so you can see the amount of vignette and full coverage.

WB was the most unusual I've experienced, 11,000, -19, in Lightroom for what you see below. If I used the eyedropper on the snow, LR set WB to 20,000, -22. Crazy or what? The lens? No filter, it was dark, ISO 100, f/8, 2.5 seconds.

robonrome
8th of January 2010 (Fri), 18:34
Just got it last night, and snowed pretty heavy today, so haven't done much but try and learn how to use it. Did get up on the roof after dusk, and tried a shift panorama, just to see how wide it gets with out moving the camera.

Our backyard with just a bit cropped off the top and bottom, full left + right shift, stitched in CS4.
Second image is the uncropped, unedited version, so you can see the amount of vignette and full coverage.

WB was the most unusual I've experienced, 11,000, -19, in Lightroom for what you see below. If I used the eyedropper on the snow, LR set WB to 20,000, -22. Crazy or what? The lens? No filter, it was dark, ISO 100, f/8, 2.5 seconds.


Thanks John, until you posted this I didn't even know that shift could be used for pano without moving the camera...though I guess that should have been obvious... this lens just get's better and better. I gave this a try yesterday in the city. This is effectively uncropped and is near to (but not quite) maximum shift.

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4715/brisbaneshiftpano.jpg

EdBray
8th of January 2010 (Fri), 19:16
Don't forget, that by turning the camera to portrait mode and then use the shift to take 3 horizontal images +12, O, -12 and stitch them together in Photoshop is similar you end up with what in effect would be a sensor size of about 35mm x 50mm which would have a resolution of about 40MP.

JC4
8th of January 2010 (Fri), 20:57
Nice, glad I was of help, while learning this lens myself.

Tried Canon's 2x TC II this evening. It works, just like I read somewhere it would. Non-reporting, which doesn't make sense, but it doesn't. So, the camera displays non TC'd apertures, as does the EXIF.

Below is a simple battery shot with the 2.x TC, full 8.5 degree tilt. 2/3 stops down, so f/9. The grain in my desk lets you see how shallow DOF is at the close batter. In fact the face of the first battery is a bit soft.

I also walked around downtown a bit today(no TC). Way too cold to fiddle with the little knobs, so didn't get many snaps. Pretty much failed at handheld tilt shots, because I just couldn't keep my hands outside long enough to get things focused properly. Did get a few shifted shots in, like the one below. Nothing special, just a doorway, but its my first T/S lens, so gotta play with the basics. :)

robonrome
8th of January 2010 (Fri), 23:51
Been trying out the selective focus minituarising effect...bit cliche, but fun :-)

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/1246/118hf.jpg

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/4180/104hf.jpg

meta4
9th of January 2010 (Sat), 00:04
Been trying out the selective focus minituarising effect...bit cliche, but fun :-)





Nice to see some shots of Brisbane!
Rob, I'm interested in this or the 17mm. I'm curious about your pano of the city a few posts back. Was this done handheld or on a tripod/monopod?
I want to take shots like your pano but don't necessarily lug a tripod around if I can avoid it. In other words, can these sorts of shots [shifted] be done successfully without a support? Thanks.
Adam

robonrome
9th of January 2010 (Sat), 00:13
Nice to see some shots of Brisbane!
Rob, I'm interested in this or the 17mm. I'm curious about your pano of the city a few posts back. Was this done handheld or on a tripod/monopod?
I want to take shots like your pano but don't necessarily lug a tripod around if I can avoid it. In other words, can these sorts of shots [shifted] be done successfully without a support? Thanks.
Adam

Thanks:D, That pano was done using a gorillapod attaching the camera to a railing above the river - I like you don't want to lug tripods around town and the gorillapod is a great little compromise. I expect you could do the shift pano stuff hand held just haven't tried it.

JC4
9th of January 2010 (Sat), 09:40
Nice miniature attempts. I've yet to give that a go. I'm guessing a bit more elevation would improve the effect.

Sure can tell we're on opposite hemispheres. All that green grass vs our total white-out. :)

DwightMcCann
9th of January 2010 (Sat), 11:33
I have had this lens for a few weeks now but have not had the opportunity to use it to it's best. All this will hopefully change now that I have a 1DsMk3 which will allow its full AOV to be utilised.

I took these images as a wind-up as they were all taken at with the same camera settings but with the use of the tilt function as swing. 1/10 sec @ f3.5 exif intact

http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m338/EdBray/bat3.jpg

This is amazing to me. Any suggestions on how to focus/tilt to acquire this DOF or is it simply trial and error?

EdBray
9th of January 2010 (Sat), 11:47
This is amazing to me. Any suggestions on how to focus/tilt to acquire this DOF or is it simply trial and error?
I tend to use live view as it is similar to the use of camera movements on a view camera. There are charts around on the internet that give you mathmatical figures but the best way is to actually see what is happening at the time.

DwightMcCann
9th of January 2010 (Sat), 12:47
I tend to use live view as it is similar to the use of camera movements on a view camera. There are charts around on the internet that give you mathmatical figures but the best way is to actually see what is happening at the time.
Do you focus on front or back first and then iteratively adjust with tilt and focus ring? Or something different? Or no system at all?

EdBray
9th of January 2010 (Sat), 14:09
I try to imagine where the 3 planes (sensor/film plane, focus plane & lens front plane) will align and use that to start and then using live view adjust it until it is how I want!

Scheimpflug principle (looks more complicated than it actually is)! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scheimpflug_principle)

robonrome
9th of January 2010 (Sat), 16:57
Nice miniature attempts. I've yet to give that a go. I'm guessing a bit more elevation would improve the effect.

Sure can tell we're on opposite hemispheres. All that green grass vs our total white-out. :)

Definitely some more elevation would help and I've got a couple of locations in mind to try out where the crowds of people will be a little crowdier;)

EdBray
10th of January 2010 (Sun), 13:24
Canon 1Ds MkIII, 24L TS-E MkII, 1/60 sec, f4, ISO 100.

Sainsbury's Roof, Marsh Mills, Plymouth, UK..

http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m338/EdBray/SainsburysRoof.jpg

robonrome
10th of January 2010 (Sun), 17:47
Canon 1Ds MkIII, 24L TS-E MkII, 1/60 sec, f4, ISO 100.

Sainsbury's Roof, Marsh Mills, Plymouth, UK..



Nice one ED, I'd like to see this with a big saturation boost...it adds to the "toy" effect.

cheers,

rob

EdBray
10th of January 2010 (Sun), 18:13
Nice one ED, I'd like to see this with a big saturation boost...it adds to the "toy" effect.

cheers,

rob
Not done this before, is this any better?

http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m338/EdBray/SainsburysRoofEdit.jpg

windpig
10th of January 2010 (Sun), 18:31
I'm thinking that focusing on the middle of the parking lot would have only the cars in focus, thus yielding a bit more toy effect. It seems like the background is not as out of focus as the foreground. Keep posting, it's interesting to see what other people are coming up with.

robonrome
10th of January 2010 (Sun), 20:22
Not done this before, is this any better?



definitely better, how much uptilt were you using, I'd use 8deg to maximise the effect. Ideally you'd want to be a bit closer to the action to.

cheers,

windpig
10th of January 2010 (Sun), 22:10
definitely better, how much uptilt were you using, I'd use 8deg to maximise the effect. Ideally you'd want to be a bit closer to the action to.

cheers,
max uptilt, but have the focus in the middle.

windpig
10th of January 2010 (Sun), 22:18
I'm not sure how these will be posted, so the file name should inform. 24mm non tilt at 3.5 and 14, then tilted at 3.5 and 14

windpig
10th of January 2010 (Sun), 22:21
these at f14

windpig
10th of January 2010 (Sun), 22:27
angle of the orchid is about 30 degrees
the first set, pic one is no tilt f3.5, second is tilt f3.5
second set is pic one no tilt f14, second is tilt f14
I love these lenses.

windpig
10th of January 2010 (Sun), 22:35
crop of tilt f14

ferretkingdom
10th of January 2010 (Sun), 23:40
The more I read, the more intrigued I am............ When i first saw these TS-E lenses on canon's website I thought, "now there's something I would never use. Who uses those? How on earth do they work? What are they for?"

Well, I still have no idea exactly how they work, LOL, but I'm totally intrigued! I love the miniature effect you can get with these! I mostly take pics of animals, flowers and my daughter, so still not sure what i'd use it for, but I want one anyway! LOL

....................... Just came along to the flower pics at the end of the page........ WOW! Would be a good macro-type lens for the flower photography?

robonrome
11th of January 2010 (Mon), 00:10
The more I read, the more intrigued I am............ When i first saw these TS-E lenses on canon's website I thought, "now there's something I would never use. Who uses those? How on earth do they work? What are they for?"

Well, I still have no idea exactly how they work, LOL, but I'm totally intrigued! I love the miniature effect you can get with these! I mostly take pics of animals, flowers and my daughter, so still not sure what i'd use it for, but I want one anyway! LOL

....................... Just came along to the flower pics at the end of the page........ WOW! Would be a good macro-type lens for the flower photography?

yes, good for macro, but key uses are correction of perspective in shooting up or down at big things like buildings, and best of all for infinite depth of field at near wide open apertures for landscapes where you can't afford long shutter speeds (e.g. where you don't want movement blur)

wimg
11th of January 2010 (Mon), 08:12
yes, good for macro, but key uses are correction of perspective in shooting up or down at big things like buildings, and best of all for infinite depth of field at near wide open apertures for landscapes where you can't afford long shutter speeds (e.g. where you don't want movement blur)
Actually, TS_Es are not just good for macro, but because of the tilt possibilities they are excellent for macro - just my take :D.

By tilting the plane of focus one can achieve way more effective DoF than would ever be possible with a "normal" macro lens. Obviously, the longer TS-Es are better for this than the shorter ones due to the large WDs at larger magnifications, but I even used the TS-E 24 quite succesfully for semi-macro shots.

Kind regards, Wim

JC4
11th of January 2010 (Mon), 16:43
Took it to the Franklin Park Conservatory today, just playing around.

Used full tilt at about 45 degrees on this one, nearly got it right. Just missed the tip.
http://johnjcaputophoto.com/Flowers/Franklin-Park-Conservatory-10/IMG4624e-2/762658072_xwd6c-L.jpg (http://johnjcaputophoto.com/Flowers/Franklin-Park-Conservatory-10/10920617_wuJ4s/1/762658072_xwd6c)

Used tilt, which probably helped get the top of the cactus in focus, but its more of a macro like shot.
http://johnjcaputophoto.com/Flowers/Franklin-Park-Conservatory-10/IMG4613e-2/762641409_5Z6Tq-L.jpg (http://johnjcaputophoto.com/Flowers/Franklin-Park-Conservatory-10/10920617_wuJ4s/1/762658072_xwd6c)

Not bad pop for 24mm. I don't think I had any tilt in this one. f/5.6, ISO 800
http://johnjcaputophoto.com/Flowers/Franklin-Park-Conservatory-10/IMG4637e-2/762678718_iLkHf-L-1.jpg

Used tilt to get more of the front orchid in focus, but should have stopped down more to get more DOF on the flower itself. f/4, ISO400 But, its a good image to see the bokeh, which is fairly pleasing.
http://johnjcaputophoto.com/Flowers/Franklin-Park-Conservatory-10/IMG4634e-2/762675494_caNCV-L.jpg

DwightMcCann
11th of January 2010 (Mon), 17:15
Those orchid shots are stunning and I really like the spiny cactus shot. I guess I need to try shooting the image I am having trouble with and bring it here for help.

ferretkingdom
11th of January 2010 (Mon), 21:37
Actually, TS_Es are not just good for macro, but because of the tilt possibilities they are excellent for macro - just my take :D

I am so adding one of these babies to my ever-growing lens/camera stuff wish list! :D

windpig
11th of January 2010 (Mon), 21:57
jc4
nice shots, I like the first 2. To me, these lenses are like having fast lenses where you get separation.

windpig
11th of January 2010 (Mon), 22:04
yes, good for macro, but key uses are correction of perspective in shooting up or down at big things like buildings, and best of all for infinite depth of field at near wide open apertures for landscapes where you can't afford long shutter speeds (e.g. where you don't want movement blur)
I got the 24 for perspective (but it does well at semi-macro with tilt) and the 90m for macro with tilt not shift.
Read about these and rent so you can try. I'd only do it with a body that has live view.

ferretkingdom
11th of January 2010 (Mon), 22:12
I got the 24 for perspective (but it does well at semi-macro with tilt) and the 90m for macro with tilt not shift.
Read about these and rent so you can try. I'd only do it with a body that has live view.

I have a T1i, so have live view. Where do you rent lenses from!? I didn't know you could do such a thing! That's awesome!

windpig
11th of January 2010 (Mon), 23:42
I have a T1i, so have live view. Where do you rent lenses from!? I didn't know you could do such a thing! That's awesome!
I'm in Seattle, so glazers camera does it. I'm sure there are good, reputable on-line rental places also.
I would read up on how these lenses work, then plan on spending a couple days experimenting.

Scuff
14th of January 2010 (Thu), 07:48
Another one from me. Processed in PS CS4 and Silver Effex Pro.

Canon 1Ds2, hand held.

http://www.gtmedia.com/Photos/Winter-stream.jpg

JC4
15th of January 2010 (Fri), 19:25
Another wonderful image Scuff. Great eye, and some fantastic locations.

Hayden Falls during a thaw. A couple degrees tilt.
http://johnjcaputophoto.com/Landscapes/Local-Landscapes/IMG4877e/765417489_9MfyC-L.jpg





I also did this 6 exposure pano, but wasn't too thrilled with the outcome. Its sharp and all, just didn't like the composition. A couple degrees tilt.
http://johnjcaputophoto.com/Landscapes/Local-Landscapes/IMG4864e/765429979_Gdu37-L.jpg








The 2 attached images were playing with perspective, full shift up and down. Other than that, just a re-aim, same position on the tripod. They're straight out of the camera.

robonrome
17th of January 2010 (Sun), 06:05
A shift pano (with ~1.5deg tilt) from the shore of North Pine Dam Brisbane Australia

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/5259/panoramicnorthpindamhf.jpg

timnosenzo
19th of January 2010 (Tue), 09:26
From last night. 5D MKII + TS-E 24L II

http://www.timnosenzo.com/Daily-Photo/January-2010/PAD01182010b/768316217_naEuF-L.jpg (http://www.timnosenzo.com/Daily-Photo/January-2010/10863042_vJga2/1/#768316217_naEuF-A-LB)

windpig
19th of January 2010 (Tue), 21:04
-A shift pano (with ~1.5deg tilt) from the shore of North Pine Dam Brisbane Australia-
Nice job, it looks like your gotta have your waders on. These web pictures really do no justice to these lenses for landscape (IMO). I'll bet this shot would look cool in HDR.

windpig
19th of January 2010 (Tue), 21:07
timnosenzo
Great shot. I love this sort of look. Shift only? Live view should ramp up the sale of the tilt and shift lenses. I can't imagine using them without it.

robonrome
19th of January 2010 (Tue), 22:08
-A shift pano (with ~1.5deg tilt) from the shore of North Pine Dam Brisbane Australia-
Nice job, it looks like your gotta have your waders on. These web pictures really do no justice to these lenses for landscape (IMO). I'll bet this shot would look cool in HDR.

Thanks yes, the web-sizing doesn't do justice, the detail on the reeds is amazing. I actually did a bit of HDR for this site, but had trouble getting a natural look - the sky is the problem and transition to the tree's end up with a "halo" of light along the treeline.

And no waders required. It's warm here, just tossed off my thongs (fli-flops what have you) and waded straight in ;)

EdBray
20th of January 2010 (Wed), 03:04
timnosenzo
Great shot. I love this sort of look. Shift only? Live view should ramp up the sale of the tilt and shift lenses. I can't imagine using them without it.
Tilt/Shift lenses with Live view rock! It's like using a minature view camera.

I already have the 24L TSE Mk2 and 90 TSE and hope to have the 17L TSE by next week. Ijust love using them and they just give so much control and it makes me feel like a proper photographer again.

windpig
20th of January 2010 (Wed), 09:12
--hope to have the 17L TSE--
I'll be curious as to how much of an issue having the front element that unprotected is.

EdBray
20th of January 2010 (Wed), 14:51
--hope to have the 17L TSE--
I'll be curious as to how much of an issue having the front element that unprotected is.
I don't see it as a problem, I had a Siggy 12-24 and never had a problem with that either!

A little bit of care works wonders!

JC4
22nd of January 2010 (Fri), 09:16
Handheld with a bunch of shift, no cardboard. :) Its a bit twisted, so I apparently wasn't holding the camera level(cold windy day). Tried some new PP too.

http://johnjcaputophoto.com/Landscapes/Local-Landscapes/IMG4530e-2/770147546_ymFtR-L.jpg

Cat pic was just low-light MF practice. ISO6400, f/4.0, 1/40th.

robonrome
22nd of January 2010 (Fri), 16:32
Handheld with a bunch of shift, no cardboard. :) Its a bit twisted, so I apparently wasn't holding the camera level(cold windy day). Tried some new PP too.

Cat pic was just low-light MF practice. ISO6400, f/4.0, 1/40th.

Nice shots John. I really like the treatment in the first and for the second, I'm a dog person, but you've made that cat look strikingly good :-)

snowboarder
24th of January 2010 (Sun), 00:36
a very poor showing in this thread, can't believe nobody can show an image
which would really show what this lens can do...

ferretkingdom
24th of January 2010 (Sun), 01:24
a very poor showing in this thread, can't believe nobody can show an image
which would really show what this lens can do...

I think there've been some nice pictures up here. I of course do not have a T&S lens, and If i were able to get one, i doubt i'd be able to do it justice since i've never held one before.

Since you don't think anyone is doing a good job, why don't YOU post some images here and show us?

J-B
24th of January 2010 (Sun), 06:09
a very poor showing in this thread, can't believe nobody can show an image
which would really show what this lens can do...

The fact you think everyone here s*cks is fine, that's personal, but
I don't think anyone or anything could please you in this thread because of your love for your zeiss 21mm.

Based on your earlier reactions in other threads that seems obvious to me ;)

snowboarder
24th of January 2010 (Sun), 07:46
Didn't want to sound like that, as a potential owner of one of the new
ts-e lenses, which have a reputation of being outstanding, I was hoping for some
outstanding examples of what it can do, not just shots of batteries or other tests...

J-B
24th of January 2010 (Sun), 08:16
I understand your opinion, test shots are not the most fun to look at.
I think those shots are more to show people what ts-e lenses can be used for, because sadly many seem to think these lenses are only for doing 'miniature' shots.

Take a look here, a lot of fine examples of what this lens can do:
http://www.flickr.com/groups/1030703@N20/

JC4
24th of January 2010 (Sun), 08:55
a very poor showing in this thread, can't believe nobody can show an image
which would really show what this lens can do...

Sorry to disappoint. Haven't seen the sun since I got the lens, or been out of town to shoot anything exotic, so just playing with it and learning some of its features. Very few pics in the thread overall, so posting what I have. I've seen your posts, and I don't have the skills/talent to match your work, but is there something I could target that would help you evaluate the lens?

edit: From what I've seen so far, if I owned the z 21mm I wouldn't bother, unless I wanted the T/S features. 3mm can easily be cropped and 2/3 stop slower is a big deal in the VF.

snowboarder
24th of January 2010 (Sun), 09:26
is there something I could target that would help you evaluate the lens?

edit: From what I've seen so far, if I owned the z 21mm I wouldn't bother, unless I wanted the T/S features. 3mm can easily be cropped and 2/3 stop slower is a big deal in the VF.


Sorry John, I apologize. I just want to see some great photos, that's all :)
Look, thanks a lot for your offer, I would love to see some examples
of achieving a great depth of field, impossible without this lens.
Specifically I would love to see some pictures with a front object being very close
to the camera and the background very sharp.
Something people usually use f22 for. Without a big success. But try to push it,
please put something really close to the lens and if you could, show a crop
of the background to demonstrate how sharp it really is.
Thanks!
I do consider the 17mm version more than the 24mm, but I love using filters.
A lost case I guess...

windpig
24th of January 2010 (Sun), 09:49
TS-E 24mm f/3.5L II
shot at f/2.8
1st is no tilt, 2nd is with tilt.

J-B
24th of January 2010 (Sun), 09:51
I can show that. I'm sorry that I'm using my sucky examples I posted earlier in this thread but the weather has been too bad to go out lately.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2622/4241535162_a8c4aea134_o.jpg

100% crop foreground near edge:

http://www.a-lone.be/jochen/voorgrond.jpg

100% crop far background near edge:

http://www.a-lone.be/jochen/achtergrond.jpg

And this is only at f5.6, handheld.

This shot could not be done without a tilt shift lens:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2737/4241542992_8ca4e00e72_o.jpg

The tree is very close to the lens. Plane of focus goes into the forest.
This is only F4.

windpig
24th of January 2010 (Sun), 09:55
J-B
That last shot is really nice

J-B
24th of January 2010 (Sun), 10:02
Another example with crops:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2661/4240768205_0b4623962b_o.jpg

edge foreground 100%:

http://www.a-lone.be/jochen/voorgrond2.jpg

Extreme background 100%:

http://www.a-lone.be/jochen/achtergrond2.jpg

Only at f7.1

Thanks windpig

DwightMcCann
24th of January 2010 (Sun), 10:59
Ah, J-B, lovely, lovely images and I really appreciate the cropped demonstration. I have this lens and while I need it most for exactly the kinds of images that look like tests, I'm hoping to be doing some wildflower fields this Spring. I will admit that I cannot relate to the excitement about the "miniature look" ... those generally just look like bad photographs to me ... but these others are stunners.

I will be taking a workshop with Jennifer Wu in the middle of March at Light Photographic Workshops in Los Osos, California, on Macro & Wildflower Field Photography, http://www.lightworkshops.com/Jennifer_Wu_Macro_Photography_Workshop.html, and Jennifer has promised to work with me on how to use this lens.

Again, thanks!

snowboarder
24th of January 2010 (Sun), 13:00
This shot could not be done without a tilt shift lens:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2737/4241542992_8ca4e00e72_o.jpg

The tree is very close to the lens. Plane of focus goes into the forest.
This is only F4.

Great, thanks. Could you do something exactly like that, but with every tree
everywhere in the frame sharp and the front tree still closer to the lens?

The other examples just show the fg/bg but your front objects
are not close to the lens, they are on the ground.

An ideal example is a low angle landscape shot with a flower basically
sitting on the lens. Everything sharp in the frame staying, let's say at f8

Even though the lens is created for this kind of benefits, can't find
any good examples anywhere.

windpig
24th of January 2010 (Sun), 17:19
-Could you do something exactly like that, but with every tree
everywhere in the frame sharp and the front tree still closer to the lens-
in the above shot, the"plane of sharp focus is running from the left side of the FG tree through the 3 trees behind it that are in focus. It is a vertical plane. The depth of field is going to be on both side of the "plane of sharp focues" starting very narrow close to the camera and increasing as you go further out. DOF will be pie shape. Stopping down may allow the trees to the left to be more in focus. the 24mm at f8 with 6 degrees of tilt will have about 11 degrees of total angular DOF.

zincozinco
24th of January 2010 (Sun), 17:25
great shot!! since the version 1 of this lens thread is dead I just wanted to say great shot!!!

JC4
28th of January 2010 (Thu), 08:25
A couple more shots, still having fun with this lens, even as a straight-up 24mm. I need a darker filter, 3 stops wasn't really cutting it yesterday. I would have liked a bit more motion blur; I was shooting f/11-f/16 to get 1/6. I'm covered in 77mm, but just getting started in 82's.

Clifton Gorge
http://johnjcaputophoto.com/Landscapes/Local-Landscapes/IMG5294e2-2/774878130_ARc7m-L.jpg (http://johnjcaputophoto.com/Landscapes/Local-Landscapes/4931206_HYrhj/1/774811581_wdoKZ)




http://johnjcaputophoto.com/Landscapes/Local-Landscapes/IMG5280e/774811581_wdoKZ-L.jpg

SB, still not what you're looking for. I was in a gorge, so the landscape went vertical quickly, and using tilt as a DOF aid would have failed. I'll need some scene with a close by subject and vertical objects are very distant, or where I want the upper parts deliberately blurred. I think the other thing missing, to really compare with the 21ZE is colors. Your pics are always so vivid and colorful. Not gonna happen here for a while, with no sun, browned out trees & grass, snow.... I'm curious too, how this lens will render a colorful scene. My simple tests look promising, as the look is different than my Canon primes, but I haven't snapped anything real yet. Hopefully we'll at least get some blue skies soon. This grey is getting old. :)

ken2000ac
28th of January 2010 (Thu), 10:37
John, do you have any 82-77mm step down rings? I'm extremely interested to see if or how badly vignetting (or worse, mechanical vignetting) occurs in this situation. One of my favorite landscape filters (ND110) is not offered in 82mm, only as large as 77mm. Indeed all of the filters I own are 77mm, so this is a concern for me to purchase any lens which takes 82mm.

JC4
28th of January 2010 (Thu), 11:02
Nope, no step-up ring, just a step-down to 72mm. If I had to guess, shifting/tilting would be an issue with 77mm filters. Since all I have is the one 3 stop, I haven't even tried stacking yet, so I don't how much I can get away with on this lens. I've got a CPL on order, so I'll find out soon.

zone555
28th of January 2010 (Thu), 19:03
Great shots in the recent postings!

Just curious.. how are you guys focusing with this lens? Built-in focus confirmation, Live View or upgraded focusing screens?

robonrome
28th of January 2010 (Thu), 23:10
Live View for me!

windpig
28th of January 2010 (Thu), 23:26
Live View for me!
yup

EdBray
29th of January 2010 (Fri), 03:10
Live View for me!

And me, it's just akin to using a view camera!

zone555
29th of January 2010 (Fri), 13:41
Thanks for your responses. And so it begins.. the saving of funds for a TS-E 24mm II :p

jp2010
30th of January 2010 (Sat), 06:27
Hello,

Here's an image taken a couple of weeks ago after fresh snow at about 8.30pm; its a couple of 15 second 1600ISO exposures on the 5Dmk2. I used vertical shift to keep the tower upright and also get the extra foreground. I've only recently returned to using a DSLR, having been using a 5x4 view camera recently. It was the introduction of this new lens that was one of the deciding factors to get the 5D - I think the live view has really made T/S lenses a joy to use on a DSLR.

Really enjoying this lens :)

Jonathan

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2597136/potn/watertower_and_orion.jpg

GMCPhotographics
30th of January 2010 (Sat), 06:46
I wonder how star trails would look with a shifted image?

EdBray
30th of January 2010 (Sat), 07:34
I wonder how star trails would look with a shifted image?

In what way exactly?

zincozinco
30th of January 2010 (Sat), 07:38
straight... :)

J-B
8th of February 2010 (Mon), 08:58
Great, thanks. Could you do something exactly like that, but with every tree
everywhere in the frame sharp and the front tree still closer to the lens?

The other examples just show the fg/bg but your front objects
are not close to the lens, they are on the ground.

An ideal example is a low angle landscape shot with a flower basically
sitting on the lens. Everything sharp in the frame staying, let's say at f8

Even though the lens is created for this kind of benefits, can't find
any good examples anywhere.

I don't think it's possible with a subject sitting on the lens, low angle. You have limitations. When you are too close to the ground, the maximum of 8 degrees tilt won't be enough.
It explains why you can't find an example of it. :)

great shot!! since the version 1 of this lens thread is dead I just wanted to say great shot!!!
Thanks;)

J-B
13th of February 2010 (Sat), 15:11
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4046/4336227800_57a167e769_o.jpg

Misiek
13th of February 2010 (Sat), 15:46
Great one! More!