View Full Version : 20D Battery Grip...WHY?
britt777
27th of April 2005 (Wed), 11:57
:confused: Why is it that eveyone with the BG-E2 Grip is pulling and trying to make the power go off??? I have done everything eveyone has said to do to make LCD display reset and it does, if I pull away from the connection. but when I have my 70-200L and 580 EX flash on camera, I have NO PROBLEMS WHAT SO EVER!!!
I think this talk about the battery grip and telling everyone who says theres works to pull the grip to see if the LCD power goes is CRAZY.
STOP PULLING ON THE GRIP!!!! You might find your problem with the grip will be solved.
Once again, If I pull on the grip it will reset, but used as should be, it works just fine. Can't get much more weight on the camera than that.
Just my personal advice, Hope I didn't offend any of you who are posting such post!
Britt
kevin_c
27th of April 2005 (Wed), 13:02
Had my 20D and grip for about 6 weeks and quite often use the 100-300 USM (not a HUGE lense I know) and have had no problems at all - I think there are a few people with problems, but I agree, If you go pulling and trying to break it you more than likely will :D :D . Open floodgates...
Toogy
27th of April 2005 (Wed), 14:33
I agreed with your thinking until I mounted my 580EX on my camera and flipped my camera to the portrait position while holding the grip and that was enough for it to lose power. If it had been writing to the buffer at that time, I would have lost images.
Todd Jacobsen
27th of April 2005 (Wed), 15:27
I agreed with your thinking until I mounted my 580EX on my camera and flipped my camera to the portrait position while holding the grip and that was enough for it to lose power. If it had been writing to the buffer at that time, I would have lost images.
Never have had problems with my grips (10/20D), and, as it has been noted here, I have not TRIED to have problems with my grips. Even with the portrait rotation on my bracket/monopod head - no problems.
But unfortunately, I have yet to REALLY TRY...amazing how trying to find problems, the problems show up...
elbirth
28th of April 2005 (Thu), 09:30
I should have my grip later today, so I can't say anything specific yet. However, from the big thread that I started back in December about the grip, it seems that there are plenty of people losing power with just a big flash on there. Of course, there are still plenty more that are actively pulling on the grip and causing it to lose power.
I'm hoping my grip will be of the newer models and if it does lose power, that will only come about if I actively pull on it. When I first get it, I'm going to attach my heaviest lens and my external flash and hold it vertically by one hand, maybe give it a slight shake and see what happens. If it loses power with that, I'll have a problem with it. If not, then I don't think I'll actively pull on it. After all, it's plastic, right?... plastic is going to flex somewhat anyway, it's in its nature
BottomBracket
28th of April 2005 (Thu), 10:02
:confused: Why is it that eveyone with the BG-E2 Grip is pulling and trying to make the power go off??? I have done everything eveyone has said to do to make LCD display reset and it does, if I pull away from the connection. but when I have my 70-200L and 580 EX flash on camera, I have NO PROBLEMS WHAT SO EVER!!!
I think this talk about the battery grip and telling everyone who says theres works to pull the grip to see if the LCD power goes is CRAZY.
STOP PULLING ON THE GRIP!!!! You might find your problem with the grip will be solved.
Once again, If I pull on the grip it will reset, but used as should be, it works just fine. Can't get much more weight on the camera than that.
Just my personal advice, Hope I didn't offend any of you who are posting such post!
Britt
The grip works fine most of the time. I only have issues with it whenever I use my monopod - its weight pulls the grip away and causes an annoying momentary power loss. It is something that I can easily compensate with, such as gripping the monopod when I lift the camera instead of holding the camera body. However, considering that the grip costs $150+, I expect it to be a lot more sturdy. I've had battery/motor drives before (well, with film bodies) and they all connected to the camera body like a barnacle. Somehow I expected pretty much the same with the 20d's grip.
Homer
28th of April 2005 (Thu), 10:05
I just picked up a grip the other day for my 20D and was a little hesitant at first after reading all the problems of forum members. As a test I attached my 70-200 f4 and 580EX flash and then attached the camera to my tripod and put it in the portrait position. It held tight without the power going out.
But the other problem members have mentioned I did experience. I took the camera battery out (it wasn't a full charge) and stuck it in the grip. After about 30 shots the camera died and the battery symbol was flashing indicating dead battery. I stuck the battery back in the camera (without the grip) and the camera happily kept on shooting. I'll try it this weekend with two fully charged 511As in teh grip and see what happens..
drisley
28th of April 2005 (Thu), 11:35
Well, I just got my replacement grip... SAME DAMN PROBLEM!
Attach the 420ex, hold by the grip, give a little shake, and voila the power goes off/on.
BTW, you have to have the LCD on to know if it happens, because the power returns immediately after it shuts off.
DocFrankenstein
28th of April 2005 (Thu), 12:03
I think it's a shame for canon to put out products like this. For 150 bucks it should be friggin carbon fiber space age materials.
elbirth
28th of April 2005 (Thu), 12:09
I think it's a shame for canon to put out products like this. For 150 bucks it should be friggin carbon fiber space age materials.
and super lightweight that has an anti-gravity mechanism so you can have it float above the ground for stability, rather than relying on a tripod/monopod that could be kicked
but seriously, I agree... it sounds like there are entirely too many compliants about it
drisley
28th of April 2005 (Thu), 12:41
You know, whenever I've heard complaints about a product on the web, I usually have found that the problems are exagerated, and of course you only hear from the people who have trouble. When I get the product it's usually just fine. Like my 20D for example. I bought it from the very first batch in September, and it has been flawless.
However, the BG-E2 is just as bad as all the forum posters claim. Now having tried 2 brand new grips, both with the exact same power disconnect problem, and seeing many others with the same results, I am sure that if I went to a local camera shop, and tried 10 grips, all 10 would exhibit the same problem.
The thing is, most people out there probably have the problem, but just never notice it since the power goes off then back on immediately. Unless you lost pictures in the buffer, or tested by having the LCD on, you probably wouldnt notice. However, as soon as I put my external flash on, and was viewing images on the LCD, my camera lost power with just a little shake when held by the grip. It didnt take much at all. But more than that, I am shocked at how loosely the grip fits the camera compared to the 300D's grip.
I still don't know how Canon missed this problem. They even denied there was a problem when the retailer I bought my grip from, the largest camera retailer in Canada, tried to return a PILE of defective grips.
Also, this whole grip sitution also stresses another important, and probably obvious point... don't believe what you read on the internet, no matter how "matter of factly" the info is stated!
I'm referring to the well known "if the grip has a serial # newer than 04xxxx then Canon has applied a fix". Well, we all know that Canon JUST released a statement this week that they are aware of problems with the grip, and that a "fix" won't be available until middle-late May. So obviously the whole serial # thing was a HUGE rumour that somebody started, and now many believe to be true.
JZaun
29th of April 2005 (Fri), 10:34
nuff said..:)
See canons response
http://consumer.usa.canon.com/ir/controller?act=PgComSmModDisplayAct&keycode=2112&fcategoryid=215&modelid=10464
JZ
drisley
29th of April 2005 (Fri), 12:54
unfortunately Canon's responses mentions nothing about the biggest problem with the grip... and loose fit causeing power disruptions.
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