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mdm
28th of April 2005 (Thu), 06:26
I'm going on a cruise in June. I would like to hear any ideas or suggestions for storage of my shots. I plan to take my laptop and transfer the raw images as needed. I'll burn them to a new cd every day and keep in another location just in case something happens to the laptop. If I save in raw will they burn to a cd like jpegs? I just started shooting in raw and I have not tried this. I also plan to get the "nifty fifty" since many shots will be inside the cruise ship and shoot in raw so I will be able to make adjustments to the shot. Any Ideas, suggestions will be welcome and helpful. I don't wont to lose any of these shots.

tommykjensen
28th of April 2005 (Thu), 06:56
raws are just files like jpeg so they are stored on cd just as easy, You just need more cd's ;-)

Adam Hicks
28th of April 2005 (Thu), 07:54
Or more compact flash. I took 5.5Gb of CF on my last cruise, and shot JPEG. No real need for RAW out in the nice bright sunlight 95% of the time. I use RAW quite a bit when doing product shots or indoor portraits or weddings, but vacation pics aren't quite a critical. Plus you'll get 3-4x as many shots on the card and might not need to worry about dumping them.

mdm
28th of April 2005 (Thu), 13:12
Ok,thanks

Danny Boy
28th of April 2005 (Thu), 13:15
I purchased an Epson P-2000 to store pics on when I was on a trip. I didn't want to lug a PC w/ me on the trip so I dished out the $$ for this slick small device. It holds 20GB and you can see the Raw images on the screen as well as the JPEG's.... and you can watch a movie on it if you have the storage space available. It's a slick little device.

Dan

deedas
28th of April 2005 (Thu), 14:04
Anybody here has an iPod? I was thinking about getting that card reader adapter for it. For 30 bucks I could back up all my pictures on the go to the remaining 10gb left on my iPod.

mdm
28th of April 2005 (Thu), 15:04
good ideas, thanks

sageone
29th of April 2005 (Fri), 19:28
You have to check the compatability with the ipod and your camera. What adapter are you referring to?

cyclone
30th of April 2005 (Sat), 09:01
I'm going on a cruise in late May and have been pondering this myself. Over on the cruise boards, there is split between getting more CF cards, or burning as you go. I have decided to buy more CF cards (total of 5Gb), primarily since I can use them again, and I probably won't use the portable burner that much afterward. I plan on using jpegs on outdoor shots as Adam suggested. However, for some of the indoor stuff with funky lighting, I will probably use RAW. I will also bring some blank CDs in case I need to transfer pictures over. I figure I might run into someone with a portable burner (its easy to spot the guy with the DSLR who might have one) or the ship might burn CDs for a cost or I might find a shop on one of the stops to burn a CD if that need occurs.

Cyclone

rfreschner
30th of April 2005 (Sat), 10:03
Or more compact flash. I took 5.5Gb of CF on my last cruise, and shot JPEG. No real need for RAW out in the nice bright sunlight 95% of the time.

No offense Adam, but I'd like to hear your reasoning behind this. There are many situations where one might want to make corrections to an image taken in bright sunlight and having more image to work with is never a bad thing. There might even be more instances in this lighting situation than in others if you want/need to bring out shadow details. And, speaking from experience, it is not always sunny on a cruise! :D

I use RAW quite a bit when doing product shots or indoor portraits or weddings, but vacation pics aren't quite a critical.

Perhaps not to a professional, but to others the memories that vacation pics provide can be priceless. I would kill to have the images that I shot in Italy a few years back in my early days with digital in RAW format. Back then, I was more concerned with quantity vs. quality because I really hadn't done my homework.

There are many pros and cons on both sides of the RAW vs. jpeg issue so one should evaluate them all and decide which are important to their situation.

mdm
30th of April 2005 (Sat), 10:28
So it's important to shoot raw for outside shots as well? Now you have me thinking I should shoot raw. I'm beginning to think I will bring my laptop. I'd like to put quality over quantity. And if I have the laptop I can shoot unlimited shots. Also it has a burner so I can backup shots as I go and let a friend keep in other location.

jimsolt
30th of April 2005 (Sat), 10:38
So it's important to shoot raw for outside shots as well? Now you have me thinking I should shoot raw. I'm beginning to think I will bring my laptop. I'd like to put quality over quantity. And if I have the laptop I can shoot unlimited shots. Also it has a burner so I can backup shots as I go and let a friend keep in other location.
I see no validity in saying that you shouldn't use the same criteria for shooting RAW or not shooting RAW for outside shots that you use for inside shots, or for that matter, aerial or underwater shots, or even VACATION shots.
If you need it or want it, it's there. If you don't shoot it, it isn't. I sound like I'm promoting the lottery:).
Jim

rfreschner
30th of April 2005 (Sat), 10:45
So it's important to shoot raw for outside shots as well?

I'm just saying that there are many reasons for shooting in RAW or jpeg and that whether you're inside or outside doesn't seem, to me at least, to be a real factor. There are plenty of threads here dealing with this debate so I won't rehash it. You should take some time to learn a bit more about it and decide whether the benefits outweigh the drawbacks. Good luck!

mdm
2nd of May 2005 (Mon), 00:09
I believe raw is the way to go. Then I will not regret not be able to work on them if needed. thanks

symes
2nd of May 2005 (Mon), 01:04
So it's important to shoot raw for outside shots as well? Now you have me thinking I should shoot raw. I'm beginning to think I will bring my laptop. I'd like to put quality over quantity. And if I have the laptop I can shoot unlimited shots. Also it has a burner so I can backup shots as I go and let a friend keep in other location.

Having your laptop will not be a hindrance on a cruise...great hotel room that goes with you, only a quick jump away...and on a laptop you can see the picture, and see if you need to improve it in a way the little LCD screen might not show you...

Have fun on the cruise...

Rob612
2nd of May 2005 (Mon), 01:20
IMHO, having available a cabin (I suppose, being on a cruise), I do not see any reason for not to having a laptop with you. It can be useful for everything you said, including a little editing, plus, whatever else you can do with it in those "boring" moments. I do have a small portable storage HDD, but when I am in a vacation that does not needs a lot of changes in logistics, I always have a laptop with me. Just my .02

mdm
2nd of May 2005 (Mon), 14:54
My gosh I can't wait to start taking pictures. I have 20 gigs free and I'll take a pack of cd blanks. I've just signed up for some land activities. Swim with the dolphins, turtle farm, and the butterfly farm and aquarium.

mdm
2nd of May 2005 (Mon), 14:55
For the kids of course !

jrm
12th of May 2005 (Thu), 14:14
I did an Alaska cruise last year. At first I looked into other storage solutions, but in the end decided to take the PowerBook and some blank CDs.

A big factor about a cruise is that no matter how much you travel around, you are in the same "hotel room." Just set you laptop up on the first day, and you always have an easy place to offload images, view them, catalog them and burn backups.

Note that I always take my laptop with me anyway, so I was pre-disposed to this solution. (Between email, video conference capability, online access to re-book travel in an emergency, access to my office/clients/calendar I am lost without my computer).

On the cruise, I averaged well over 100 photos per day. Since I had an easy backup solution, I just shot away. With the laptop, I was able to view each day's shots and make some preliminary adjustment to the RAW files (and also correct my mistakes for the next day's shooting). Also got rid of some bad shots right away and categorized things. This would have been more difficult if I had to deal with >1,000 shots when I got home.

Never underestimate the ability to preview shots in the field. Many years ago I was in Hawaii and took several film shots. Didn't find out until all my rolls were developed that the camera's shutter was broken. Sure the camera preview/histogram may help, but (for me) it is no substitute for a full screen image to see if exposure/focus/etc. is off.

--Joe

jrm
12th of May 2005 (Thu), 14:21
... I plan on using jpegs on outdoor shots as Adam suggested. However, for some of the indoor stuff with funky lighting, I will probably use RAW. ...
Cyclone

Funny, I found the opposite on my Alaska cruise. There was such a wide range of light outdoors, RAW was essential to balance the heavy shadows and the strong highlights (water reflections, glaicers). The sunsets would have been impossible (at least at my skill level) without RAW. I didn't do much indoors, but with a decent flash unit, I think jpeg would suffice in most cases.

--Joe

the.digital.guy
12th of May 2005 (Thu), 16:21
I purchased an Epson P-2000 to store pics on when I was on a trip. I didn't want to lug a PC w/ me on the trip so I dished out the $$ for this slick small device. It holds 20GB and you can see the Raw images on the screen as well as the JPEG's.... and you can watch a movie on it if you have the storage space available. It's a slick little device.

Dan

The Epson P-2000 has a "40GB Hard Drive" not 20GB as stated.
It is capable of storing 36.5 GB/the other 3.5GB is for system OS.
Just a FYI