Poor Results: Kodak Professional Inkjet Paper & Canon i960 & similar

[J Rabin]

I have tried every method, downloading Kodak's priinter profiles, following their workflow recommendation exactly, etc. The colors are never true on printing (and yes my monitor is profiled). There is always a warm-yellow-off color cast. Less so with Kodak Ultima, but it's just an OK paper.
I like the feel of Kodak's Professional Inkjet Luster finish. Is it just me that can't get the output right for this paper on Canon Printer?
With Canon paper, and with Ilford paper (both the Ilford Classic pearl and the cheap CompUSA Ilford Printasia) types, I get wonderful true results, even when printing 13x19 on an i9900. FWIW: Ilford Printasia discount line of paper is a SOLID BARGAIN AND HI QUALITY. Canon's Semi-Gloss prints well, but expensive and not available in all sizes
I have not identified other brands who make as cheap and hi quality a pearl/luster paper for Canon inkjet as Ilford, but I'd like to use Kodak for customers who feel more satisfied with the "Kodak" traditional trademark on back.
Me or they just don't work together?

[Longwatcher]

Three questions
Have you profiled the printer?
Are you double color managing? This means are you color managing the print in PS and then again in the print driver (one preferably the printer one, needs to be turned off).
and since you didn't state for sure, Are you using Canon OEM inks?

Now I get wonderful results from my i9900 which uses the same ink set and I don't even follow Kodak's profile (I use my own), And although I like the output of Kodak's profesisonal paper, slightly better the the Ultima paper, I trust the ultima paper to last. I do tend to use Ilford's classic pearl these days a lot more though (similiar to Kodak profesional lustre paper coating). I was actually tending to get more yellow on my Ilford paper then Kodak, so maybe different batches of paper or ink (or both).

But knowing what does what, I have a profile for each paper which gives me very good consistent results.

[Hellashot]

Try epson paper. Kodak should get out of the photo paper business.

[J Rabin]

Longwatcher.
I am very careful to NOT double color profile manage in workflow, so that's not it. I have the monitor profiled, and downloaded Kodak's i960 and i9900 profiles, but I have NOT profiled the printer because I do not own a flatbed scanner. Are you saying you use Kodak paper with your own custom profile? Or are you just using a generic profile of some type?
With Ilford, I use stock Canon Photo Paper Pro (PR 1) profile with -15 yellow and +5 intensity as Ilford recommends. I like the subtle warm tone.

Hellashot.
Which Epson Premium paper do you get good results on? I see they have Pro Luster and a Pro SemiGloss. Which one have you achieved good results and what profiles do you use? I assume as a Canon competitor they are not going to release Canon printer profiles for their papers! Are one or both for Epson pigment inks versus Canon dye inks?

I don't want to blow $50 on Epson paper and not get good results. Thanks in advance for advice guys. Jack

[Hellashot]

I've only used premium glossy. I've never bought any paper of any brand that was "professional". I've mentioned several times on here that Epson's paper was the only brand that gave results that made my prints not look as if they were injket on my Canon i560. That's why I just bought the Epson R1800.

I never changed profiles, I always (after discovering them) used the print space profile for my printer and didn't make any adjustments from "auto color".

[Longwatcher]

In my case I created a separate profile for Kodak Ultima high-Gloss paper and Ilford Classic pearl paper which seems to work very well for me. It does require me to add some yellow (+14 in PS CS) to the image before printing on Kodak paper which I sometimes forget to do, which is why I recently ordered a color management kit so I can profile everything together and not have to remember to convert the image for the Kodak paper.

Then I will just have to remember which paper I have loaded. 8)

[J Rabin]

Thanks. I think I'll just have to borrow a scanner then and make a profile if customers want to flip the photo over and feel comfortable when the back says "Kodak."....J

[JBillings]

I've been extremely happy with the output of my Canon i9900 on Kodaks Professional Photo Paper (E) Lustre. I have profiled my monitor and printer. I don't use any profiles supplied by paper manufacturers. Try profiling your printer