OS 10.4 . . .

[RJSorensen]

Tiger is released today at 6:00 p.m. in your local time zone. Eleven hours and counting for me. ;)

I hope for new things and a nice platform for CS2! as well.

The rest of you Mac Men/Women going to make the change . . . or am I the only one going through it?

My kind regards as always.

[PacAce]

I'll be right there behind. But, being the conservative type, I'll wait until a few other more daring people have tried it first. I don't like being on the "bleeding" edge of technology...not if I can help it. :mrgreen:

[Turbowolf]

As soon as the college bookstore gets in the educational version of 10.4 I'll be updating. ($69)

Should be Monday since the campus bookstore closes at six today and does not have weekend hours.

[Homer]

I asked my friend about Tiger. She's an Apple BETA tester and this is what she had to say.

Tiger will be amazing however right now it is a little too buggy for my liking. I've been trying to run it on my main system to test but it crashes so much I end up going back to my panther partition a lot just to get stuff done. The dashboard is an interesting idea, although not one I'll use very much. Automator looks promising but is not very functional yet. It can only automate a few tasks in a limited number of Apple apps. Other than those features, I haven't noticed any significant changes to the interface or performance, although I'm not running it on a dual processor.

my two cents.


So I think I'll wait a little while until upgrading from Panther

[vcutag]

I'm eyeballs-deep in Ars Technica's review of OS 10.4, and I can't wait for my copy to get here. I ordered online with the expectation it would be here today... now FedEx is saying Monday. :-\

[PacAce]

I asked my friend about Tiger. She's an Apple BETA tester and this is what she had to say.

Tiger will be amazing however right now it is a little too buggy for my liking. I've been trying to run it on my main system to test but it crashes so much I end up going back to my panther partition a lot just to get stuff done. The dashboard is an interesting idea, although not one I'll use very much. Automator looks promising but is not very functional yet. It can only automate a few tasks in a limited number of Apple apps. Other than those features, I haven't noticed any significant changes to the interface or performance, although I'm not running it on a dual processor.

my two cents.


So I think I'll wait a little while until upgrading from Panther
That's the whole idea of Beta testing a product. What it's supposed to do is flush out as many bugs as possible so that they can be corrected before they go "general release" with the product. Hopefully your friend got back to Apple and reported these bugs to get fixed.

[smirchfa]

I'm planning on upgrading my computer soon, (4 year old, 466 Mhz G4) so I may just wait and get if for free when I get that dual G5 with 30 inch monitor. ;) However, if finances dictate a long wait for the G5 and my old 10.2.8 starts to become incompatable, I'll take the plunge...maybe along with a processor upgrade and more RAM to power PSCS2.

[Mills]

Bought mine from Amazon and should have it by May 3. Will be doing a lot of watching between now and then.

[RJSorensen]

Well after midnight here . . . OS went on sweet! My stuff seem to work like a charm. No I said NO problems. I see it as the best upgrade we ever got. On my dual 2x2 rev. A, she is smoking. Nice speed bump for me and apps.

Hope you guys have as good of luck as I. It is my intent to put it on the other two systems on the morrow . . . I am too sleepy now. I could not hardly sleep last night. This is like Christmas for me . . . lol

Night.

[Jonny]

The nice guy from TNT (uk) delivered my on the 29th around lunch time. I have installed it on my 12" Powerbook and it is fine, no problems so far at all apart from the lack of driver for my Ximeta netdisk :cry:

The Preview App now supports RAW, the new mail app looks nice and dashboard is great. Can't wait for more widgets! Spotlight works like a charm and all this for £50 (UK), education discount.

[Maureen Souza]

This is like Christmas for me . . . lol
Night.

Well I hope you got everything you dreamed of RJ..... and I hope you calm down soon and start posting again. Miss my daily commune with the Wyoming wildlife.

[PacAce]

The nice guy from TNT (uk) delivered my on the 29th around lunch time. I have installed it on my 12" Powerbook and it is fine, no problems so far at all apart from the lack of driver for my Ximeta netdisk :cry:

The Preview App now supports RAW, the new mail app looks nice and dashboard is great. Can't wait for more widgets! Spotlight works like a charm and all this for £50 (UK), education discount.
Well, that's very exciting news about the preview app supporting RAW files. I'm assuming this is the same preview app that gets launched from Finder when you double click on the file or select "Open" by right-clicking on the file?

[Jonny]

Well, that's very exciting news about the preview app supporting RAW files. I'm assuming this is the same preview app that gets launched from Finder when you double click on the file or select "Open" by right-clicking on the file?

Yes it is, the icons are the standard 'Preview' ones with 'RAW' stamped on them.
If you switch to column view in the finder you get thumbnails of RAW files. A nice and welcome addition!

[PacAce]

BTW, does anybody know if the 5-client family pack comes with 5 individual DVDs or if they all get installed from the same DVD. The reason I ask is because If they're all installed from the same DVD it would make it difficult to upgrade laptops of kids who are away in out-of-state schools.

[RJSorensen]

Maureen . . . lol, yes it has taken a lot of my free time for sure. I have been setting up SCSI systems and 10K Raptor drives and . . . well souping up the old bus.

Tiger is great . . . got it on two of three machines now. It only gets better.

Edit: On the family pack I think it is one disc with five licenses.

[KirkM]

I'm going to waiting a couple weeks myself before I upgrade the G5 and laptop. See how things look on the Apple discussions :) Now there's also the expense of CS2, QT Pro, iLife05 and my old version of Final Cut :)

Kirk

[PacAce]

This might be a useful reference for anybody comtemplating the upgrade to Tiger, just in case:

http://discussions.info.apple.com/tiger.install/

[Petergull]

Tiger is installed - first impressions: whole system seems slightly slower; Spotlight is absolutely brilliant (worth the upgrade alone). Hoping that the speed issue will be resolved.

[RJSorensen]

Speed is slowed down by spotlight while it indexes your system. So I hope and think that your speed will be back when it finished its job. It can take up to twelve hours or so on some systems.

I am having a SystemUIServer problem with mine . . . but I have a clue as to the demon in my system, lol. I will report back when and if it works.

[PacAce]

OK, now that Tiger's been out for a while, does anybody have any incompatibility issues to report, especially with Photshop CS or other photography related program?

I'm also curious to know if you did an upgrade or a clean install of Tiger.

Thanks.

[vcutag]

OK, now that Tiger's been out for a while, does anybody have any incompatibility issues to report, especially with Photshop CS or other photography related program?

I'm also curious to know if you did an upgrade or a clean install of Tiger.

Thanks.

I'm asking for trouble by saying this, but I apparently lead a charmed life. I've had no problems with the update that 10.4.1 didn't fix (namely issues with Airport reception). Nothing affecting PS CS or Preview.

I originally just upgraded, but once I got an external HD, I backed everything up and did a clean install.

EDIT: I forgot to add, it took Spotlight about 45 minutes to index my 80 GB hard drive (which was almost full). I've also upgraded from the stock 512 MB of RAM to 1.28 GB, and that's helped speed it up.

[PacAce]

Thanks, Tom. I'm just now starting to plan my upgrade strategy and I think I'm leaning towards a clean install on a clean harddrive (after a full backup is taken, of course). I'll see if I follow through with that plan after I inventory all my apps that will need to be reinstalled although, admittedly, I don't have nearly as many apps on my Mac as I do on my PC. :)

[Jonny]

When i first got it i went for the upgrade route and everything worked fine apart from a couple of issues:

No driver for my Ximeta netdisk (i am promised that this is soon though)
and
Continued problems with my Canon i865. Although to be fair i had problems before tiger and it may be the printer itself not the driver. I need to try it on a PC.


Because of the printer problems i decided to try a clean install. Whilst it didn't help that issue it has speeded my powerbook up somewhat. A nice clean, fast machine!! I got rid of all those apps i never use and verything is great.

I would suggest you back up everything and do a clean install. In fact after your back up, copy your entire home folder to an external drive. That way if you do forget about certain things you can retrieve them. I forgot to back up my iCal calandars and address book! Boy was i glad i backed up that home folder!!

[NickC]

I'll see if I follow through with that plan after I inventory all my apps that will need to be reinstalled although, admittedly, I don't have nearly as many apps on my Mac as I do on my PC. :)

If you install 10.4 on a clean drive, when it is done and rebooted you will go through the setup screens. At some point there is an option to copy over your information, apps, and files from another volume (whether it's a partition, Firewire drive, or a second internal). If you choose this option it will take awhile to copy your stuff, but you will not have to reinstall your apps. If you have shareware stuff, the licenses will come over just peachy. Your users and their passwords get copied too, if you so select.

It's a very cool feature.

-> Don't forget to repair permissions on your original volume first, whether you upgrade or install on a new volume!! It will save headaches.

[PacAce]

Thanks all for your insights and tips. I just ran a repair permissions earlier this evening so I'm OK there. I made a backup of my system drive (as a root user) over the weekend on to an external drive so I have at least one recent backup. I'm going to run another repair permissions and make another backup just before I do the actual install, probably this coming Friday. :)

[RJSorensen]

It has been great for me. I also upgraded to CS2 and have just love it as well. Hope you guys get along as well as I.