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Tparr
1st of May 2005 (Sun), 10:55
When I look at the information about the parameter settings, that that I have set up on my 20D do not seem to be the ones shown. No matter what I set as a parameter, it appears in the shooting information as Sharpness level -0
Tone Curve - Standard & Color Tone - Normal. Has anyone any experience with this?

Tparr
1st of May 2005 (Sun), 11:03
I have found an answer to my own question. Apparently in the creative zone the camera automaticaly sets to Parameter 2. Now the question becomes why?? It seems that the term "creative" was not considered when Canon developed this option. It would be nice if one could set up the desired parameters in all modes of shooting

robertwgross
1st of May 2005 (Sun), 17:32
I assume that Canon wants to "dumb down" the camera for Basic modes. So, Parameter 1 makes the images look vivid and sharp.

If you are in the Creative modes, then Parameter 2 is the default, so everything looks flatter, which is more accurate and true.

However, they just give the user the many choices to set it up like you want.

---Bob Gross---

Medic1
2nd of May 2005 (Mon), 08:24
I do not own a 20D (yet, in a couple weeks I will), but what mode are you sooting in Tparr? Jpeg or RAW files? As I said I do not own a 20D, but from what I understand sharpness level does not translate to RAW files because, well, its raw image data. I don't know if it shows 0 on the camera or not because of this......

aam1234
2nd of May 2005 (Mon), 09:58
Bit confused here. If I set, say, the sharpening to +2 in Av, it doesn't affect the picture?

robertwgross
2nd of May 2005 (Mon), 11:37
Bit confused here. If I set, say, the sharpening to +2 in Av, it doesn't affect the picture?

If you are shooting JPEG files, then sharpening settings are applied to the stored file. If you are shooting RAW files, then sharpening settings are not applied to the stored file. However, the data of what the setting was is written to the file so that RAW conversion can use that setting at that stage, if you choose.

Where it gets complicated is that you can be set up to shoot RAW files, and then you shift the mode from Av to Basic modes and the camera will shift you over to JPEG files, so all of a sudden things look completely different.

---Bob Gross---

aam1234
2nd of May 2005 (Mon), 11:42
Thanks Bob, that clarifies it quite a bit (and I only shoot JPEG).

robertwgross
2nd of May 2005 (Mon), 11:49
Thanks Bob, that clarifies it quite a bit (and I only shoot JPEG).

It can be very confusing if you think you are changing only one thing, like Av to Sports mode, and all of a sudden three or four different aspects are changing.

---Bob Gross---

suryad
22nd of May 2005 (Sun), 13:13
I realize this is an old post but I stumbled on it using the search funtion. I just received my 20d like 2 weeks ago and have been amazed by it. I read in the manual I guess Parameter 1 makes pictures lifelike and the colors exactly what we see and Parameter 2 makes things stand out. For non creative zone photos and I am shooting in JPEG format, I am able to change the parameter settings but for when I am not using any of the creative zones, as far as I understand it there is no way to change the parameter settings right?

So does that mean I need to be takign pictures all the time in the creative zone settings? What if I want to shoot from the hip and take some quick pics? What creative zone setting would your prefer? Andother question would be if instead of using the parameters and I did my own custom setting, what would your recommendations be for sharp, bright colors and great contrasts? followup to this question would be then that since I am only able to set these kind of settings in the creative zones...if I revert back to the automatic modes, then the custom settings on sharpness and so on...they would not apply is that correct?

Once again sorry to bring up and old thread admins, but I didnt want to create a new thread just for asking questions that seemedvery related to this particular thread.

Thanks in advance.