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PhotosGuy
1st of May 2005 (Sun), 23:11
The usual scam, except it targets us. Copied from the ASMP site:
http://asmp.org/news/spec2005/internet_scam.php
There’s a yet another set of Internet scams making the rounds. This one is aimed specifically at photographers, but there are variations for many different professions. Here’s what it looks like.

Good Day,

My name is Anthony Lewis. My wife Becky and I are planning to have our wedding on November 20th,2004 at St Vincent De Paul Church,Tallassee,Alabama.I am looking for the best photographer who will come and snapshot on the D-day and when I came across your advert I was impressed.Let me know your charges for your required services if you are to work for at most 6 Hours on that day.We want about 150 copies of different photos in both black and white and in coloured both in the church and reception and of both the bride and the bridegroom,their parents,the officiating ministers and our guests.We will want you to work for at least 6 Hours at the occasion and if you are out of Alabama,we will pay the transportation charges to and from the party venue so indicate in your email if you are out of Alabama and state what it will costs either via Plane or through Car transport to Alabama and what amount you will receive working for 6 hours at the occasion. Also,we will have the photographs snapped at the wedding forwarded to the Publisher of a Magazine Company in U.K so they could feature it in their celebrity journal. However,I will be making the payment by means of a Cashiers Cheque.Let me have your full names,Address, Phone Number,Cellular Number where a Cashiers Cheque will be mailed to for the payment.Moreso, should you be out of state,the Hotel accomodation will be provided for by me. Waiting to read from you soon as regards this.

Best regards,
Anthony Lewis

It’s just plausible enough that you might send back a quote. But there are several earmarks that should make you suspicious.



The most important is that the sender clearly has no idea who you are — in the above case, he doesn’t seem to know whether you are in Alabama or not. And he wants you to send him your name, address, etc. (Wouldn’t a real customer already know this?)

Looking closely, you may find that your email address is not in the To field of the message. And perhaps the Reply address is on a service that allows instant creation of new mail accounts, such as Yahoo or Hotmail.

The strange use of capital letters, the occasional misspellings and odd spacing are quite intentional. They are designed to make the email look like it was hand-typed.


But still, you may think, the message is only asking for a quote. Surely there can be no harm in replying, perhaps just to request a couple of further details. And that’s mostly correct — although it might mark you as a prospect for future scams.

The plot thickens. It’s what happens next that makes it interesting. After you name a price, the scammer will send you a cashier’s check for substantially more than that amount. He may say the check was already made out, perhaps for a deal that fell through earlier. Or the check may come from a third party who — so sorry! — has made a clerical error. In any case, he will ask you to refund the difference to him.

You, of course, are both honest and careful. You say that you will happily make the refund as soon as the check clears your bank. Indeed, a couple of days later, the bank releases the funds to your account.

The sting. The problem is that a bad cashier’s check can bounce around the banking system for two or three weeks before someone determines that it is a forgery. When the dust settles, your bank will reverse the credit to your account. If you have sent the refund in the meantime, your money will be gone without a trace.

For further reading. One of the most fascinating sites on the Internet is Snopes.com (http://www.snopes.com/). It mainly tracks urban legends, but it has a section devoted to online scams, including cashier’s check scams (http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/scams/carsale.asp), of which this is but one variation.

mdm
1st of May 2005 (Sun), 23:16
Wow! You'd think they would lower the boom on these rats!

Skip Souza
2nd of May 2005 (Mon), 03:30
The only way to effectively deal with such scam artists, phishers, malicious code writers and the like is to hunt them down and dispatch them with extreme predjudice.

Littlenose
2nd of May 2005 (Mon), 03:53
i think the thing that gave it away for me was the "at most 6 hours", then "at least 6 hours" a sentence later... but i wouldn't have picked up on the other things you mentioned... i guess i'm not as internet savvy as i thought :o

Wazza
2nd of May 2005 (Mon), 04:20
Working in a bank for over 2 years, it's incredible to see how many people get tricked into giving their money back.

Sometimes I honestly think it's partially the banks fault for making available, uncleared funds. Especially those personal cheques.

Receiving money from people I'll only accept direct money transfers, such as Telegraphic Transfers (Overseas), but beware again, DON'T SIGN some form of paper with your details on it. They can then fax an instruction to your bank with the specimen signature to transfer money out of the account. Silly again, how fax indemnities are part of the account opening form these days where I work. I don't trust anything, apart from the person being present, with some form of ID.

But can I please fly to Alabama.. I may have missed the wedding though, as it was 2004. :p

sixshot
2nd of May 2005 (Mon), 04:49
Well if I got such an email I'd no it was fake straight away....coz there is no way I am the best, not even close!! I'd have passed it on to one of you guys or gals!!

Tom W
2nd of May 2005 (Mon), 05:27
I think that with the EFT systems in place today, the banks ought to know if a Cashier's check is legit or not within a day, not 2 weeks. Or, they surely shouldn't credit an account until the funds are proven to be good.

PhotosGuy
2nd of May 2005 (Mon), 07:22
It seems that "Certified" checks are only worth the paper they're printed on. One bank charges you to write the check. Another gives you the money for it. Then it's, "Sorry, we want our money back!" Which raises the question, just who's running a scam on who?
A month ago I sent a letter "Certified, receipt requested." The letter was delivered (Hurray!), but I've seen no evidence of my signed reciept, which cost almost $5US! Your tax dollars at work!?

pradeep1
2nd of May 2005 (Mon), 13:11
Just the odd (for American's that is) usage of words and spelling would give this guy away.

FlyingPete
2nd of May 2005 (Mon), 15:57
i think the thing that gave it away for me was the "at most 6 hours", then "at least 6 hours" a sentence later... but i wouldn't have picked up on the other things you mentioned... i guess i'm not as internet savvy as i thought :o

Yep that did it for me as well.

The whole mail generally smells bad anyway, the language wording etc, very simular to most fraud messages I have read.

Bruce Hamilton
2nd of May 2005 (Mon), 17:59
First line clues you in that it's a scam...
My wife Becky and I are planning to have our wedding...
If the wedding is being planned, she's fiance, not wife... ;)

GerryDavid
2nd of May 2005 (Mon), 19:20
I probably would have replied but would have been cautioius. Once they send me to much money and wanting the difference right away I would take it to the police or someone.

And I agree that the banks need to update thier systems. With todays technology and inter/intra nets the banks could find out if its real or not in seconds. Same with credit cards, why does it take days for some charges to show on the card? But anywase. :0)

cjm
2nd of May 2005 (Mon), 19:55
How about this,

I saw you picture on this site and I would love to pay you $5000 to take pictures of you. So if your an attractive sexy female then email me back and we can set something up.

Got that in my email. It was a little longer then that written above. I laughed at that since, if this guy saw me on a website then he'd know I am not a sexy female. He emailed me through eBay of all places and on eBay I have a photo of me and Robert Bateman on my me page.

http://members.shaw.ca/cmonline/Pictures/CMbateman.jpg

Boy look at me, arn't I a sexy female. :lol: :rolleyes: Losers with their scam emails I tell ya.

Citizensmith
2nd of May 2005 (Mon), 22:09
Well I've got a scanner and photoshop. If they need a refund I can print them off some nice $200 bills.

GerryDavid
2nd of May 2005 (Mon), 22:39
Good luck doing that with PS CS unless you got a hack. :0)

FlyingPete
3rd of May 2005 (Tue), 00:05
Good luck doing that with PS CS unless you got a hack. :0)

Works fine with our local currency :twisted: