HELP ==> Premiere Edited Vid Degraded

[Leorooster]

Hi all, first of all I am a newbie in digital videography. I have a 5D2, so naturally I would use my digitcam to record some footages from time to time. However, I find myself use the video feature of my 5d2 more and more recently and there is a need for me to learn video editing. Gee.....I thought Photoshop was difficult to learn, but I had no idea what all those panels were for when I first installed and opened up Premiere. Okay.....so I did some basic search and reading, and then I tried my hands on shortening a clip myself. It went well and everything. However, after I saved the edited video, I found that the quality has been degraded quite a bit. Long story short, is there any way to presearve the quality of the original clip (I am sure there is, but I just could seem to find any related reading)? Any help would be appreciate.

:) :) :)

[pepperoni]

How did you save it? Settings you selected?

[Leorooster]

I exported the clip......and I don't recall that it gives me any saving options.

[pepperoni]

File > Export > Media.
All the options are on the right under Export Settings.

[Leorooster]

Thanks, Pepperoni :)

I don't see the "Media" option in Premiere. I do this:
FILE > EXPORT > MOVIE

I was also able to change the setting, and tried many different options. However, I don't seem to be able to keep the HD quality and small file size at the same time. The original file is a little over 1GB (and that's why I needed to trim it down a bit in Premiere), but the exported/processed file is about 35GB. I was able to keep the file size down to just under 1GB, but HD was gone and the aspect was changed.

Thanks :)

[pepperoni]

Thanks, Pepperoni :)

However, I don't seem to be able to keep the HD quality and small file size at the same time.

Unfortunately, with HD, you can't have both.
I'm using Premiere CS4, so you must have a previous version?
Under Export Settings, check Windows Media for HDTV 720 24p. Then select 29.97 frame rate (fps) down below under the Video tab.

[pepperoni]

Here's a few screen grabs, but your interface might look a little different.

On the left, choose Output. This way you can see if the aspect ratio changes when you select different presets.
Try Windows Media under the Format menu.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3378/3657011317_785bd2cbaa_o.jpg


Under the Preset menu, select HDTV 720 24p and choose where you want to save it.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3579/3657011323_7c5004cf3b_o.jpg


Under the Video tab, select the fps to 29.97 (or Same as Source). Notice the file size below. This doesn't always show up depending on the preset you pick.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3318/3657011333_5981db254e_o.jpg

Give that a whirl and see if it helps. This is just a test to see if you can get local playback to look better. If you're uploading to Vimeo, the settings are different.
Good luck.
:)

[westernminnguy]

I use Adobe Primier Elements 7.0.

When I'm done editing, I go to the 'share' folder..upper right.

If I chose 'burn to DVD' and widescreen, the default option is to downconvert(read compress) to SD or standard definition. This really softens the video but allows it to be watched on a regular SD TV.

Otherwise, if I post it to Vimeo in HD, I go to Sharing> personal computer> Windows Media file and convert it to HD 720 p. However, this can only be viewed in high definition on-line, on a PC or some other player that can play high definition video.

Also, you might want to find your version of Photoshop Primier Elements here and see if there is anything about 5DII video.

http://forums.adobe.com/community/photoshop_elements

Hope this helps.

:)

[Leorooster]

Thanks all for the advices.......I will go back and see which works the best for my purpose. Thanks all again :)

[Forseti]

I'm also pretty new to this video editing game having recently purchased a Canon SX1 and having scoured the net for hours for advice, practised on short 2 minute videos etc this is what, to date, I have found works for me.

(a) The free player (VLC Player) plays back all types of video formats including MOV at a far higher quality than Quick Time.

(b) To reduce the size of the captured videos WITHOUT any apparent loss in quality whilst at the same time converting to an easily editable format (AVI) I have found that the free converter (SUPER) does an excellent job. Finding the correct settings can be a bit daunting at first, but again, by research and trial and error the following settings (in Professional mode) appear to be the best:-
Box 1 - AVI, Box 2 MPEG-4, Box 3 - mp3. Encoder -Mencoder, Video - No Change, 16:9, 30. The bitrate kbps setting seems to do a good job when set at 4000 but for even higher quality the 6000 or 8000 settings can be used. Audio - 22050, Channels 2, Bitrate 128, DVD language to default.

When converted the video file size drops dramatically but when the now AVI file is played by in either WMP or VLC there appears to be no difference in appearance to the original MOV file. By the way, the original file is left untouched with only a new AVI file being created.

This AVI file is now easily editable in Windows Movie Maker (WMM) or for more professional editing in Vegas Movie Studio Platinum Pro.

An important note - codecs has always been a bit of a mystery to me and it's not always made clear that various applications require the right bits of codecs. Another free application that should be installed, and that also installs every conceivable codecs one will ever need is ffdShow (current version rev 3014 2009-06-20).

One final point about Vegas Movie Maker Platinum Pro is that it is available as a 30day free trial and when you go to the download site that is what you see e.g. the trial of MMPP. What isn't made clear (until you purchase a licence) is that you also need DVD Architect 4.5 and the Cinescore Studio 1.0 plug-in in order to burn your project to DVD. These are also included in the purchase price of course and also available as trial downloads it's just annoying to find that when one comes to burn a DVD of a project that the option isn't available.