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westernminnguy
29th of June 2009 (Mon), 17:44
Moderators please move this where ever applicable...this is for fun only.

The year is 2012 and today is the day that Canon finally merges still photography and video...technologies that Canon has had for years but avoided merging...for marketing reasons.

The Canon 1D MKVI

Still photography:

(1) 60 mp sensor

(2) 45 AF cross type sensors for still shooting.

(3) ISO 25 - 50,000

(4) 10 fps...if you need more...de-interlace a video still(30 fps possible)....just as sharp with the new Zoombrowser.

(5) CF...any custom function needed. Write your own custom function.

Video

(1) Video is 24 fps, 30 fps and 60i)

(2) Recording times are 1 hour minimum via compact flash....still the main recording medium of the time.

(3) A new IS/AF system is announced. One that can work for still and video using Canon lenses. AF is instantaneous like the A-1.

(4) Iris is controlled via a smooth sliding(not increments) wheel of the MKVI(like the XH-A1).

(5) Sound is full via a separate mike using hot shoe with two XLR inputs and a full 48 hz input.

What would you like to see in the 1D MKVI in 2012?

Take care.

Trey T
29th of June 2009 (Mon), 18:00
-why do you want 24p?
-1hr??? do you mean create a nother file as soon as it hit the fat32 limit?
-current IS is pretty awesome, man. not sure about AF though, it's preferred MF by many due to 35mm format.
-n/a
-xlr wont happen, for sure. introducing the 35mm chip into their flagship camcorder is more plausible.

I do not make hollywood movies so everything the current 5dII offer is more than enough. there is and will be huge support for 5dII. canon 1d will always be their flagship photography, not for video.
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Video

(1) Video is 24 fps, 30 fps and 60i)

(2) Recording times are 1 hour minimum via compact flash....still the main recording medium of the time.

(3) A new IS/AF system is announced. One that can work for still and video using Canon lenses. AF is instantaneous like the A-1 with all L lenses.

(4) Iris is controlled via a smooth sliding(not increments) wheel of the MKVI(like the XH-A1).

(5) Sound is full via a separate mike using hot shoe with two XLR inputs and a full 48 hz input.

What would you like to see in the 1D MKVI in 2012?

Take care.

vadim_c
29th of June 2009 (Mon), 18:12
(2) Recording times are 1 hour minimum via compact flash....still the main recording medium of the time.
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Why do you need 1 hr minimum video ? That will make your camera unusable for a minimum of 1 hour even if you need to record only one minute clip.

HaroldC3
29th of June 2009 (Mon), 19:24
We can't take 3D VR photos by that time? Rubbish! :D

Why not have an upgradeable 1TB SSD built in? Forget CF cards.

powerslave
29th of June 2009 (Mon), 19:28
By 2012, I don't think Canon would go beyond MKIV. Maaybe MKV at most.

jbhswim
29th of June 2009 (Mon), 19:29
By 2012, I don't think Canon would go beyond MKIV. Maaybe MKV at most.
maybe you misread, the thread title is MKVI which is mark 6,

powerslave
29th of June 2009 (Mon), 20:13
Exactly.

bacchanal
29th of June 2009 (Mon), 20:21
Personally, I'm just waiting for them to add a bottle opener before I go to the 1 series.

Duncan Frenz
29th of June 2009 (Mon), 20:26
Personally, I'm just waiting for them to add a bottle opener before I go to the 1 series.

You meant wallet opener didn't you?

mbellot
29th of June 2009 (Mon), 20:43
(5) Sound is full via a separate mike using hot shoe with two XLR inputs and a full 48 hz input.

That's some pretty mean bass, but it gonna be worthless for voice.

:lol:

Karl Johnston
29th of June 2009 (Mon), 20:59
By 2012 I expect the aliens the mayan`s predicted to return and give us the technology to take pictures with our minds !

sanity1082
29th of June 2009 (Mon), 21:09
Personally, I'm just waiting for them to add a bottle opener before I go to the 1 series.

now that would be good marketing

basroil
29th of June 2009 (Mon), 22:30
If you are going to ask for something, ask for:
pellicle mirror so you get the same great af tracking in stills and video
30fps/60fps/ up to 1200fps (something like 120-240-360-etc to 1200) in 1080p
24p/30fps/60fps in 4k
h264 encoding with high profile 5.1, 5 b-frames bidirectional, etc. (reduces file size to half AND gives better quality)
34MP FF
15fps stills
2gb internal buffer
dual next gen SD storage (exfat syle, 100mb/s write speed, 32gb min card size, 2tb max) with the ability to hardware raid them (i.e. record that 4k video at 60fps without issues, probably good enough for up to maybe 240/360fps full hd)

EDIT: Karl, just for you, I'll add one more thing:
11MP Low noise and 11MP high dynamic range mode (ex200 on steroids, and fully functional)

Karl Johnston
29th of June 2009 (Mon), 23:23
Whats with all the megapixels guys ??? The noise control will be worse than if it had been made by olympus at 1600 with 34 mpx

mikeassk
30th of June 2009 (Tue), 01:58
My wish...

NO MORE MECHANICAL SHUTTERS... WHAT IS THE POINT?

Alexei TND
30th of June 2009 (Tue), 02:42
Gyroscopic antigrav image stabilization

IN 2012, CAMERA STABILIZES YOU

:D

Karl Johnston
30th of June 2009 (Tue), 03:31
My wish...

NO MORE MECHANICAL SHUTTERS... WHAT IS THE POINT?
They sound cool

westernminnguy
30th of June 2009 (Tue), 18:43
Thanks for all the responses...dreaming is fun isn't it...especially when someone else has to pay for R&D.

A few clarifications:

48 hrz refers to sound sampling. The reason I paid over $4K for a Roland 2480 recording board was that it had the ability to sample at 96hz. 96 hz. was the ideal sampling system but no one knew anyone who could reproduce it and few ears had the sophistication to hear it.

Fortunately neither 48 hz or 96 hz is an issue since the ability to hear detailed sound has been lost on the MP3 and MP4 generation who are lucky to discern any high quality sound at all.

60 mp sensor. Everyone seems to get a 'hard on' when a sensor size is increased in megapixels even though it may not have practical application in the real world of the net or in print. 2012 most internet sites will probably still only accept 1 mb of info and consumer printers will be lucky to reproduce that to detail.

24/25 fps. Desired by movie makers...who in this 21st century, want to emulate what was done in the middle of the last century.

1 hour minimum video using CF cards means... video can be captured from start - to 1 hour before changing recording media....i.e. CF flash. This is not much to ask considering most DV tape can do 80 minutes now.

Few mentioned instantaneous AF...big deal to videographers. The XH-A1(s) has this. What about the 5DMKII or it's successors?

The best part of dreaming about the next camera...and almost all are incremental....is what's to come.

Canon...we wish you the best....and the next greatest thing!

:D

Trey T
30th of June 2009 (Tue), 19:30
filmmakers that does film-out needs 24p, not regular Joes. all we need is 30p for NTSC and 25p for PAL. in relation, the PAL guys might want 24p bc they can interpolate to 25p.

you can not do that on a 4gb limit fat32. you're missing the main point about file size. you have to have continuous recording even ask or dream for longer record-time than 30min, as 5DII currently have.

AF is great but when you shoot 35mm (aka DoF), you want to manually pull focus onto the subject. the more plausible advancement is to have remote focus pulling or at least have it wired so you can control the focus.
Thanks for all the responses...dreaming is fun isn't it...especially when someone else has to pay for R&D.

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24/25 fps. Desired by movie makers...who in this 21st century, want to emulate what was done in the middle of the last century.

1 hour minimum video using CF cards means... video can be captured from start - to 1 hour before changing recording media....i.e. CF flash. This is not much to ask considering most DV tape can do 80 minutes now.

Few mentioned instantaneous AF...big deal to videographers. The XH-A1(s) has this. What about the 5DMKII or it's successors?

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:D

westernminnguy
30th of June 2009 (Tue), 20:13
filmmakers that does film-out needs 24p, not regular Joes. all we need is 30p for NTSC and 25p for PAL. in relation, the PAL guys might want 24p bc they can interpolate to 25p.

you can not do that on a 4gb limit fat32. you're missing the main point about file size. you have to have continuous recording even ask or dream for longer record-time than 30min, as 5DII currently have.

AF is great but when you shoot 35mm (aka DoF), you want to manually pull focus onto the subject. the more plausible advancement is to have remote focus pulling or at least have it wired so you can control the focus.

Trey,

Thank you for your input.

Remember. This forum is a still camera forum.

It is viewed by a whole bunch of folks that don't have a clue why the 5D2 is a predessor for or would be considered a movie camera.

Canon folks(like me) are at a crossroads.

An all in one camera(both video and still)are not that far away.

:)

Thanks.

paavor
9th of July 2009 (Thu), 03:28
you can not do that on a 4gb limit fat32.

Don't let limitations of FAT32 to limit you imagination. :) For example, exFAT is coming to town..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT

Palladium
9th of July 2009 (Thu), 16:57
Maybe a typo but the Canon 1D mark IV is being tracked @ Now in Stock...:rolleyes:

http://www.nowinstock.net/digitalcameras/canon/1d/

zaathrus
11th of July 2009 (Sat), 09:30
Now a "Not Found" on B&H. Mistake or cover up?

danielyamseng
11th of July 2009 (Sat), 23:34
1D mkVI? Wow that's really a way future ahead. If it does exist it'd be mounted on the head and use the brain activation :-)