(Black and white)...for Canon300D?

[Vicki76]

OK i have a 300d and have had it almost a year now. I have read and reread the manuel heaps of times and tried to find an answer to this question by using the net. What i want to know is can you shoot in black and white with the 300D. I have alwasy converted using PS of PSP and figured you can't shoot in B&W, but i have read that SOME digi cams do.

I think i feel embrassed asking such a dumb question...lol

[rg-tom]

i dont think so, afaik it only started with the 20D?

[weemannie]

i dont think so, afaik it only started with the 20D?

Yes you're right. B+W out of the camera is a 20D thing :)

[robertwgross]

A few cameras have the capability of putting a B&W filter flag onto the image file. Unfortunately, the Digital Rebel is not one of those cameras.

---Bob Gross---

[Vicki76]

OK Thanks very much. I will continue to convert in PS.

[smittymike19]

No the 300d does not have a band w mode but the new rebel (the xt) lets you shoot in Black and white, though i dont see the usefulness, as i always shoot capturing the most info possible (raw + color). i can always take away information later, but I cant add it. you wouldnt want to get the once in a lifetime shot in b and white then realize it would look better in color.:)

[COKE CAN]

How do you convert a picture to B&W in PS7?

[CyberDyneSystems]

How do you convert a picture to B&W in PS7?

Take a quick look at the "Tutorials" sticky thread in "post processing" forum.. I think a few ways are described.. (there's dozens of methods)

the simplest AFAIC... is to click on "image", "adjustmnts", "hue/saturation" and just silde the "saturation" slider al the way to the left.

[mdr]

You can find a B&W workflow plugin on www.fredmiranda.com. It is very easy to use, and allows you to apply B&W filters, and change intensities and contrast very easily. Well worth the few $$$'s.

Alternatively, good quick results can be obtained by desaturating your image and subsequently adjusting the contrast using curves (I generally apply a slight S curve).

[COKE CAN]

Thanks guys!

[Medic1]

Keep converting in PS......alot of people firmly believe that converting to B&W is much more beneficial that shooting in B&W.....

[robertwgross]

Keep converting in PS......alot of people firmly believe that converting to B&W is much more beneficial that shooting in B&W.....
... because there are several ways of doing it in Photoshop, and there is only one way of doing it inside the camera. Several ways can be helpful, because each way gets a slightly different result. By trying each of the ways, you can decide which result is best.

---Bob Gross---

[rdenney]

How do you convert a picture to B&W in PS7?

The best way is to go to Image|Adjustments|Channel Mixer and click the Monochrome box. Then you can adjust which colors have what influence on the black and white image. It's like being able to filter after the fact. I would never want the camera to do that for me.

Rick "who has been able to get near IR effects with this method" Denney

[Vetteography]

Only the 20...

Wait a sec, the Digital XT (or 350D) has the ability to shot in B&W (Mine does).

[Michaelmjc]

Wait a sec, the Digital XT (or 350D) has the ability to shot in B&W (Mine does).

Ya I just noticed mine has it too, so its not only the 20D's

[JMAS]

The best way is to go to Image|Adjustments|Channel Mixer and click the Monochrome box. Then you can adjust which colors have what influence on the black and white image. It's like being able to filter after the fact. I would never want the camera to do that for me.

Rick "who has been able to get near IR effects with this method" Denney

I agree! By far the best way.

[the7ferret]

There are 3 ways to convert to B&W
* Image > Mode > Grayscale : Easy, Quick, not the best quality conversion
* Image > Adjustments > Hue/Saturation > Take Saturation down to 0 : Quick, Slightly more detailed
* Image > Adjustments > Channel Mixer > Click Monochrome box and play with sliders untill desired output. (They should all equal up to 100) : Challenging, Best detail, FULL Control

Normally the computer picks the red channel for conversion to B&W but that can possibly leave out detail thus why channel mixer is the best.

[mdr]

The B&W results tend to need dodge and burn (perfectioned by the darkroom printers over decades). Make sure you use the dodge and burn tool within PS before converting to B&W, resulting in less loss of detail.

[Steve Parr]

I ususally use a program called iPhoto for any post processing I do. It's a cartoonish program I got with my scanner some years back.

The thing about it is that it works really, really well when doing basic stuff. Converting to B&W is a snap; cropping, resizing, all that stuff. On those occasions where I want B&W, it's a simple matter of removing all of the color saturation.

Yeah, it's an extra step, but I'm usually not looking for B&W, so it's no biggie...

Steve

[MTalley]

you wouldnt want to get the once in a lifetime shot in b and white then realize it would look better in color.:)

I did some portrait work with my previous camera and was showing the subject's mother how an occasional shot might look in either Sepia or B/W by snapping a couple of shots, one in each mode, on the camera and showing her on the LCD review.

Later, when she was viewing the proofs, it turns out the B/W pic had one of the best smiles and poses of the particular set I was shooting. Her first question to me was if she could have a couple of 5x7's made of that picture, but in color. :o

With that said, I think I shot a total of maybe 10 shots (out of, at last count, 9000 photos) in either Sepia or B/W on that camera.

[mdclaros]

Hey guys,

I used to have the old rebel and that did not have B/W capabilities.
The new rebel does and the 20D has even a way to do filters on top of the B/W
the perfect combination for me is B/w filter with a red filter on top.

Now talking about color vs B/W .... well it depends of what you are looking for.
I usually plan my photo days ahead
I can say today I will go out and take pics of people only and only in B/W. SO I have to think how the shadows and color contrasts will look in monocrome. It is not easy to do because we see in color :)

Color is good but sometimes is a little redundant.... if you have a pic of a face with a nice smile and bright clothes, B/W would be a way to make the eye go and see that smile.

I have been doing shots on manual settings to B/W with my D20 and if I want the same one in color just turn the dial to any of the authomatic modes and the next pic will be in color. Turn it back again to the AV or any of the creative modes and it will take pics in b/w . like two cameras in one. and the possibilities increase if you shoot raw+JPEG.

[lancea]

What i want to know is can you shoot in black and white with the 300D
Just in case anyone doesn't realise - when you shoot in "black & white" (at least on a 20D) the image is still saved with all the colour information. It only appears as black and white when the progam you use to view it supports the "profile" contained in the jpeg file. I also liked the idea of shooting in B&W, particularly when I read that you can apply in-camera "filters". Then I happened to view the files in a viewer that didn't recognise them as B&W. "What's going on here?" I thought. So I searched the forums and found the answer. There's really no point shooting B&W on the camera unless you can't be bothered doing a conversion later. Also, the mode only works for jpeg, not RAW. Where it would be handy is when you are getting the shots printed straight off the card.

[Jon]

If you shoot RAW+jpeg, the JPEG will be B&W, no ifs, ands or buts. If you shoot only JPEG, it'll also be only B&W. If you shoot RAW, the original sensor data is saved, and you may choose after the fact to process the image as colour, B&W with any of the other parameters available. But you can't restore colour to a B&W JPEG. The palette information just isn't there.