Raw & Color setting in camera,etc

[karjar]

If you are shooting RAW, (300d), and processing in PSCS2, do you set your camera color at Adobe RGB, your raw converter at AdobeRGB, and PSCS2 color space at AdobeRGB? when do you use sRGB?
any insights welcome. thanks
jeff

[Dante King]

Shooting raw is just that RAW. No setting will effect the data. Well at least that is my understanding of it.

[BigRed450]

Exposure and ISO are the only settings that affect your RAW file. Everything else is done in the RAW converter after.....

[cmM]

I use Adobe RGB for processing etc, because it has a larger color gamut. I use sRBG whenever the final output needs to be in sRGB color space (for web, and most printers), so converting to sRGB is the last step, I do all the editing in Adobe RGB

[tim]

Exposure and ISO are the only settings that affect your RAW file. Everything else is done in the RAW converter after.....

That's correct.

[karjar]

Thanks, that makes sense as far as RAW in the camera. So you can leave the camera on any parameter or setting, and that will only effect if in Jpeg then, right?. So using AdobeRGB in Photoshop, so you set your color space for your computer to AdobeRGB as well (in dipaly properties)? Just trying to figure out where monitor calibration fits in, as opposed to software color space.
jeff

[Jesper]

Thanks, that makes sense as far as RAW in the camera. So you can leave the camera on any parameter or setting, and that will only effect if in Jpeg then, right?.Yes, right.
So using AdobeRGB in Photoshop, so you set your color space for your computer to AdobeRGB as well (in dipaly properties)? Just trying to figure out where monitor calibration fits in, as opposed to software color space.If you are talking about the colour space setting in Display Properties in Windows (accessible by right-clicking on the desktop and choosing Properties / Settings / Advanced / Colour Management): No! The Windows colour space setting is for associating a device dependent ICC profile for your monitor. You can create such a profile for your monitor by using calibration software (and hardware).

There are two kinds of ICC profiles: (1) device dependent and (2) device independent. A device dependent profile is a profile that describes how a particular device, such as a monitor, printer or scanner, displays or sees colours. A device independent profile describes how a standard colour space like Adobe RGB or sRGB represents colours.

In Photoshop you should set your working space to a standard, device independent colour space like Adobe RGB or sRGB.

[karjar]

Thank you Jesper. So until I buy a color calibration spider/software, what is the best setting to have in the device dependent profile in windows, or does it even matter (yes I was referring to right clicking desktop and going to advanced color management).
So when would someone ever use AdobeRGB in the Canon 300d as their color format? Is this just for professional graphics type applications?

[RDKirk]

If you are shooting RAW, (300d), and processing in PSCS2, do you set your camera color at Adobe RGB, your raw converter at AdobeRGB, and PSCS2 color space at AdobeRGB? when do you use sRGB?
any insights welcome. thanks
jeff

The settings are primarily used for JPEGs. Although the settings don't affect the RAW image directly, the camera does record them and include them in the file data for each image. The RAW converter uses those setttings as the default "as shot" settings; you can change them at that time or keep them.

But there are a couple of definite advantages to setting the camera as you want the image to appear even if you're shooting RAW.

First, the settings are used for the LCD preview and camera histogram (the camera creates a tiny JPEG thumbnail for the LCD, even if you have the camera set to RAW only). If the settings are 'way off, it decreases the utility of both the preview and the histogram.

Second, if you have a standard setting, you can frequently make a changes to one RAW image and apply them in batch to the entire session.

Third, if your card space gets tight, you might switch to JPEG in the heat of the action and forget to correct the settings.

[karjar]

Thanks for the info.I may slowly be getting this figured out. I think I am doing too much reading :p

[Steven M. Anthony]

One thing still confuses me (at least about color spaces...): I have seen the argument/suggestion to use ARGB over sRGB because ARGB has a larger color gamut. I've also seen the diagrams of the ARGB and sRGB color gamuts and how the former is, indeed, larger than the latter.

But if one's printer (or image-editing software printer driver) is going to convert the ARGB file to sRGB before printing, it seems it would be better to just start off with the sRGB color space. I know when I do all my editing work in ARGB and then convert to sRGB for the web or to print, there is a noticible color shift that I have to correct.

Is the another benefit(s) to ARGB in terms of editing that you lose with sRGB?