Scoop the D60 is already DEAD!

[traveler1]

It is now official according to Canon France.
Look at:

http://www.photim.com/Infos/UneInfo.asp?N=747

(Chasseur d'images, a french photo magazine)

[mikeg]

Phil Askey already pointed this out on the dpreview site...

[beach512]

Good. Now I may be able to get one in a few months for next to nothing. Canon knows everybody wants the latest gadget and right now there seems to be a feeding frenzy for the latest digital SLR's with a hot review on Phil Askey. The stock will also drop again on the D30 too and there is nothing wrong with it (for hobbyist). Look at the pictures taken by members of this forum with the D30 and D60. They are incredible. For those who have these cameras, don't despair. Keep them and keep taking pictures. There is no hardware that can take the place of good photography skills.

[Hawkeye12]

oh my god!!.......does this mean that my D60 no longer works?
oh what'll i do...........what'll i do?

quit reading Troll messages i guess.

[DVWarrior]

Hawkeye the noo,

Lookin at yir web photos has yir D60 been taken out the box.








"L" glass is too chunky

[GenEOS]

Mine still works. As it will when the Dxxx is released in 20xx. But I am happy, and you can't take that away DVWarrior! :-_)

[jimwong]

can someone actually read the french and summarize the article for me. i would like to know exactly when this announcement was made. I consider purchase and now have to re think it. thanks.

[GenEOS]

At best they will show the new cameras in March at the tech show. Then it will be a year before you can get hold of one, if that.

Why wait. Jump in when you can and start taking great pictures!

One good thing about waiting for the best, bug free camera....you will never spend any money. There is always going to be something a bit better and faster, etc... It is the nature of the industry, engineered obsolescence...

I have read articles and posts which basically say the D60 is crap. But I am here to tell you, that it is a pretty darned nice piece of crap if it is. I love mine and have had few of its bugs get in my way.

[DVWarrior]

jimwong wrote:
can someone actually read the french and summarize the article for me. thanks.

"The D60 is... ow you say... duck soup...good-by Hawkeye...down the river without a ...ow you say paddle. No more will slip off the production line...(Ah, must get that fixed). Gone for good..op you were not one of the un-lucky ones to buy one...the D in 60 means Dead as a door nail...gone...ca-poot..psionarra.

End of translation.


"L" Glass is too chunky

[jimwong]

I called Canon USA and they do could not confirm that announcement of the D60 demise.

[Dans_D60]

Dear DVWarrior
Can I hire you for language translation? That’s the most accurate paraphrase I have ever read!
Dan

http://www.pettusphoto.com

[DVWarrior]

Dans_D60 wrote:
Dear DVWarrior
Can I hire you for language translation? That’s the most accurate paraphrase I have ever read!
Dan

Oui messeur...Dan

To be sung...

"Dan the Man, Dan the Man...take me a shot of a frying pan !!!"

"L" Glass is still Chunky

[Mr. Fogle]

10-4 0n the "L".... Big "S" all the way.

[Leighow]

jimwong wrote:
can someone actually read the french and summarize the article for me.

Colossal surprise this morning: career of the numerical reflex camera of Canon, the EOS D60, is already finished, hardly more than six months after its real arrival on the market! Canon-France has just officially confirmed the rumour which had circulated for a few days already: the Canon D60 stops, its manufacture is stopped and there will be no more delivery, stock being definitively exhausted! The rumour picked up by our English fellow-member dpreview.com was thus quite real: D60 leaves the scene! If you need D60 quickly, hurry down to your retailer while stock remains because Canon does not deliver more. There will be of course a substitute but, according to Canon-France, it will not be revealed before the (PMA) show(?), i.e. next March. No date given.

[Thomas]

Check the thread "D80 Snippet" on this forum.
wcapald wrote:

From another forum.......
http://www.photografica.com/news/default.asp?mode=display&category=25&id=127


My advice is: Keep using your gear or buy a D60 and enjoy it for a year. Later you may upgrade if you need to. Do not waste time waiting for the new model. Keep shooting.

Thomas

[rickm]

Thomas wrote:
My advice is: Keep using your gear or buy a D60 and enjoy it for a year. Later you may upgrade if you need to. Do not waste time waiting for the new model. Keep shooting.
Thomas
Don't forget though Thomas, some here are "still shooting" wih our D30's since the D60 was not a huge upgrade. Depending on what comes out next, it may be the perfect time to put the D30's up on a shelf.

[Longwatcher]

I like my D60, but the two primary limitations are

-- Resolution (AKA pixel count) for what I like it is limited, but the D60 met my minimum quality for 35mm film replacement and I could afford it. I would not be happy until it hits the aperture limit however somwhere around 25+ megapixels and dusts my old Hassleblad.

-- The 1.6x factor is annoying only because it prevents me from using very wide angle lenses and I found I had to back-up to get the same field-of-view. A full frame sensor would be preferred. In the meantime my D60 trades crop for pixels versus cost, which I can live with (at least after I got the 16-35L).

All other factors that I would like improvement on (other then LCD viewing as well as viewfinder) are just secondary features that I can work around.

If the D80 is 8MP full-frame and the cost is close to current D60 price, I will pick up one when I can as a primary, relegating my D60 to back-up camera. Right now the back ups are the Hassleblad or a Kodak DC4800 (good for web shots, bad for prints larger the 8x10).

As more and more opportunities are showing up for me to make money on photography, I want to make sure I have backup equipment so I don't lose these opportunities, I am a bit late starting out given that this will be a second career if I decide to go full time (which is beginning to look more likely). I had been considering the 1D or 1Ds, but cost is way scaring me off at this point, if I am not already making money, so a D80 is looking good to me if cost is not prohibitive.

I do anticipate some problems with having one camera doing full frame and the other doing 1.6x factor, but suspect I may end up keeping the telephoto lenses on the D60 and using the D80 for studio work. I will have to wait until at least March to see. Maybe I can manage a trip to Vegas....

Trivia: I did a on-line check of photographers in my local area, out of approximately 180 listed on the site I checked (onemodelplace) only 2 am I envious of and 3 are in the competitive category (which probably means they are better), so while my ego may be slightly out of control, I am slowly beginning to think I may have a good chance at photography as a second career. I should mention that I liked about 4 more, but their work on-line did not appear to be in competition with me based on style, they needed a class in how to create jpeg files, or just needed a better camera. So unless I have overrated the quality of my work, I appear to be in the top 5% in my area (or at least of those on that site). I can work with that. My biggest problem now is shooting more non-nudes/fetish so I can distribute examples of my work outside of adult sites. I am working on this.


Okay I have dronned on long enough, sorry. Can't wait to see the actual stats and costs on D80.

[Leighow]

DVWarrior wrote:
jimwong wrote:
can someone actually read the french and summarize the article for me. thanks.

"The D60 is... ow you say... duck soup...good-by Hawkeye...down the river without a ...
End of translation.



Note that these articles are not putting the D60 or Canon down.

The 2nd article says that what we have here is a sell out that is in line with a Japanese corporate strategy that has evolved over the past decade. You forecast, produce, and .. if you sell out you do not restart the production process. It seems that (as is the case with automobiles) you start the new year with a new model. Apparently consumers just have to get used to a newe form of product obsolescence (e.g. Ã* la PS 6).

The 3rd article gazes into the crystal ball. The D60 may have been constructed on an aging foundation. TOne dream would be to introduce C-MOS... but ... that would not satisfy the experts and it would leave a hole on the way up to the 1D. For most the purchase of a DSLR is an investment, but manufacturers ought to recognize that frequent redesigns are upsetting -- especially to amateurs.

[tpl2]

True or false?
http://ukdigitalcameras.safeshopper.com/8/467.htm?148

[DVWarrior]

I think the add is true but has taken the info from a less than informed source...

Like Mr Spock certain things in this world are logical...

Like...D30...D60...then logic says the next in line is a D90

Remember the old T90 SLR that was a great camera in it's day...I was one of the first to get a T90...anyway I digress.

Next we have the MP count....3MP...6MP...so the next in line would be 9MP...logical.

By keeping it 9MP it should not infringe on the 11MP 1Ds but at £6500 I have my doubts.

What about the price ok I will plum for £2.5-3K this keeps it appealing but a rethink if you have already forked out for a D60.

The last info I will impart to you will be that the D90 will also be a full 35mm footprint.
Canon do not hide from the fact that the pros do not like the 1.6 conversion and WA lenses have a greater reduced angle of view.

Remember one thing who told you first about the D90
Yes...Mr Warrior the guru on the pulse of Japan.

Psionarra

[Hawkeye12]

DVWarrior wrote:
I think the add is true but has taken the info from a less than informed source...

Like Mr Spock certain things in this world are logical...



Remember one thing who told you first about the D90
Yes...Mr Warrior the guru on the pulse of Japan.

Psionarra



LOL

[BobbyC]

I heard form someone who was at the Seniors Photographers Intl convention in Orlando about 2 weeks ago and he said at the Canon booth at the trade show were two large signs saying "The D60 is not discontinued."

[DVWarrior]

BobbyC wrote:
I heard form someone who was at the Seniors Photographers Intl convention in Orlando about 2 weeks ago and he said at the Canon booth at the trade show were two large signs saying "The D60 is not discontinued."


Bobby...Bobby...Bobby...now for goodness sake would Homer Simpson listen to his dad...these old guys get a bit muddled and Canon know this...He actually overherd the Canon rep tell him...."Mr Eye, the D60 is now discounted"....see sounds the same to older ears.

Psionara

[photography By Evangelos]

Well canon is aware that there is proplems in Digital SLR land and the D60 is over all a fair camera. It is a $2,000 camera with a $10.00 dollar Auto focus system which is sub standard for its price. Also at ISO 400 and up is plain has to much noise. My D1 at ISO 800 and 1600 is much sharper at 4.0 Pix. I hope the D80 A/F system is better in low light and that the Chip is larger than the D60s is. I hate the 1.6 X factor and will not spend $8,000 grand for a D1s that is plain crazy. The D80 is on the way do not buy the D60 wait. March is around the corner.

[BobbyC]

DVWarrior wrote:
Bobby...Bobby...Bobby...now for goodness sake would Homer Simpson listen to his dad...these old guys get a bit muddled and Canon know this...He actually overherd the Canon rep tell him...."Mr Eye, the D60 is now discounted"....see sounds the same to older ears.

Psionara

I'm not sure what the hell you are talking about? Did you read my post or is this a lame attempt at being funny?

[DVWarrior]

Get a life Bobby

[photography By Evangelos]

Hi have you had good luck with Sigma. I have had lots of problems with my 17-35 HSM and 50mm Macro. And sold them off and got the Canon L and EF macro no problems. What Sigmas are you have luck with?

[Terry]

I'm curious what people think about the timing of actually getting one of the "D80/D90/??" cameras, given Canon's past delivery performance (D60). I'm thinking the new cameras would not even start shipping until a few months after the announcement, and then actually getting one would be difficult since there probably would be a very high demand for them. The best bet would be to pre-order one and get you name put on a list, and then wait...wait...wait.

I'm thinking if they announce the new cameras at PMA in early March, then maybe August or September before you could get one. Other opinions??

[DVWarrior]

1st date will be June then set back to August with 10 cameras filtering into the USA market. 9000 for Spain and 2 for the UK. The 1st problem will be "the chip is hard to make" being full frame. 2nd problem will be a duff power supply and recall of all 12 cameras world wide less Spain as their warenty is different.
September will see the announcement of the D120 and the 1Dsdl 24MP camera.
The D120 will have the new 12MP "fool" frame chip for just under $3000 the 1Dsdl will have the 24MP Pro chip
costing $16,000 or there abouts...and it goes on...

[BobbyC]

What a waste of bandwith. It's obvious who needs to get a life.

[DVWarrior]

BobbyC wrote:
What a waste of bandwith. It's obvious who needs to get a life.

Hurt your wee feelings did I...poor old Bobby...
PS. Such a big word "bandwith" for a small brain to hold...keep taking the pills.

[BobbyC]

What are you 2 years old?

You must be the biggest waste of space I've ever run into on a forum.

I don't wear my feeling on my sleeve, so no, you didn't hurt my feelings.

It takes such a big man to call someone names hidden behind a computer. Probably has something to do with making up for certain shortcomings of your own. (You can take that one however you like)

Whatever you say, I'm sure in your mind you really beleive it, so rock on brother, I'll be in other forums where adults hang out and have something relevent to say, you stay here and keep making an idiot of yourself, I'm sure everyone is getting a good laugh from you, kind of like laughing at the town dunce.