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IainB
9th of May 2005 (Mon), 17:57
When I set this challenge, I figured there would be some wide interpretations of this topic, and I have not been disappointed. Thanks to each one of you for entering.

To me, body language conveys a mood, feeling or thought, and I’ve judged each entry on how strongly it impacts. Regrettably, I’ve had to play ‘hard ball’ with some of you! There are only three posting rules, and one states that the photo title must be in the message line. In fairness to all, I have stuck to that rule, and three entries have to be disqualified.



I’m breaking with tradition and posting the winners first! (Not sure how to post links to the photos, sorry.)





The winner! :lol:

Digidog: “Mona Lisa” Now this would make a brilliant jigsaw puzzle! There is so much going on in this shot that you can study it for ages. In places it is quite hilarious. Imagine those who have queued for ages to see the famous Lady, only to stand at the back of the crowd, camera raised above head, for a measly photo! Others seem quite disinterested and are looking around. Of course there are some going “Aaaah!” Congratulations on a great shot. But I read somewhere that photos are not allowed in that part of the gallery….. J



2nd Place

Dchemist: “The Lady” Who said you get frail in your old age? What I love about this shot is the sense of independence and determination in the old lady’s demeanour. The way she is carrying that crutch says plenty… “I certainly don’t need this!” or “Just try anything, young man, and I’ll give you a biff round the ear!” A well taken shot, (on your knees?).



3rd Place

Bottombracket: “Officer, I didn’t do it” There is a stark impact about this shot that is loaded with mood. While we can’t see the faces, the body language tells lots. The two felons seem resigned to their fate while for the officers, it seems like just another day on the job. The setting – an austere, unattractive building, is enough to make me shudder. Excellent composition.




A brief comment about the others, in order of posting:
KC Jewel: "A little help here!" (I'd better make it clear I omitted commenting on this one in my first posting of results through my own unparalleled dimwittedness rather than through any fault of the photo or photographer, as my draft notes would clearly show!) KC Jewel, you were fast out of the blocks in posting this one. It has me guessing what happened next...skid marks along the sand...two kite surfers....a pair of shorts left behind...Such possibilities! I do think there could be a great shot in this subject matter -perhaps a different angle, perspective or closeup to create a little more impact and drama.

Gkuenning: “Chance Encounter” One of my favourites, as it expresses sheer childish joy – a wonderful emotion. As a shot, it’s a bit soft, but better that than missed altogether!

Monkey-wrench: no title This is another super shot, and certainly would have been ‘in the finals’ had there been a title! The grey mode is a brilliant choice of mood-enhancement. The posture of the old man and the angle of the seats all work so well. He’s holding a note…Has he been to the doctor, or is he on his way there…? Going to collect his pension? Whatever it is, he’s deep in thought. A favourite shot.

RAW: “Unseparated” The graffiti and the empty bench next to the woman, contrast with the tiny dog and the eye contact the young woman has with her pet. Good title, and not an easy shot to take without causing her some anxiety is such a setting. Another favourite!

4nR: “Shhh, he’s working” I feel any impact has been lost by retreating to a safe distance for this shot. Unfortunately it becomes just a shot of someone carving. A ‘drive-by shooting’ would have been worth the risk here.

Boutty: “Hello?”This is a nice shot in sepia, and while it’s a good photo, it’s not strong in the body language category as the boys are 'aware', and deliberately responding.

Feihung08 “Ho-hum” You realised this entry didn’t fit the criteria. See you in the next challenge!

Partridge9 “Speaking Volumes” Kids on stage can be a terror, but this shot needs a bit more action for my liking. There’s not quite enough boredom, and ‘get on with it, we’re bored!’ in the body language of the others.

Marie: “Kicks all round” Trust Marie! I’m not sure I want to be seen agreeing with this title J but we’ll take it that Marie does! Clever, and brave even, (who’d want to be seen shooting this shot?) but I don’t feel it has enough impact, even though one player is standing quietly taking in the view...
txfirebug: “You want it done by when?” This seems to be a familiar sight around building sites anywhere. It has the right ingredients, but I feel it needs more of the building’s size to emphasise the enormity of the work ahead of the men. That might have made the shot very difficult.
Kidpower: “Inner City Stranger” I like the confidence shown to get this shot. It’s not what many of us would be keen to try. That said, the shot is posed, and body language less obvious. He looks pretty well-fed too.

CiderSpy: no title I take it that this kid posed for the shot, so his expression is created for the camera. He looks like trouble!

Thefly: “waiting for a rainy day” Isn’t that a sun umbrella? The monochrome gives the shot an appearance of in the past, but it’s too static for my liking. True, the lifeguard (?) may be bored, or even glad to be sitting in the sun. Maybe he wishes rain would come so he can have a day off…. I’d like to see his face for a clue.

abat: “The Seal Kiss” I can’t help but like this. The blur of the child’s face strongly portrays the frantic urge to avoid that fishy breath and wet slobber! Difficult I know, but a bit of sharpness on the seal or foreground would have helped. Dad in the background is loving it!

bikerider: no title I’m not sure how risky this sort of shot is. Bikers can be fickle, I know, but the shot is rather too static to send a message and taken from a safer angle. Maybe a riskier ‘drive-by’ shot is needed to get a close-up of expressions.

Again, thanks to all for entering. Let’s see what digidog sets as a challenge…:lol:

Dchemist
9th of May 2005 (Mon), 18:29
Re: "The lady"

Since you asked... I was sitting on a park bench in the Kensington section of London of a Saturday AM when the lady walked by. With the G3 and the display folded out you, the photo was taken from a fairly low angle. Thanks for asking and the 2nd place recognition. Congratulations to Digidog!

abat
9th of May 2005 (Mon), 18:37
Great choices, IanB and congrats to Digidog. This was an interesting topic and a aspect of photography I'd never consciously thought of before. Part of the fun of taking part in the challenges!
I would have liked a bit more sharpness in my seal too and perhaps a head on the keeper but the shot still makes me laugh whenever I look at it! And by the way, I got the next kiss and it sure did stink.
Andrew

txfirebug
9th of May 2005 (Mon), 18:57
Congrats to the winners, this was one of the most challenging contests so far and I would have hated to be the one to judge them. Great job everyone.

BottomBracket
9th of May 2005 (Mon), 20:04
Congratulations to DigiDog and DChemist! Well judges, IainB. I believe too that this was one of the more difficult challenges so far. I think that you chose the best picture - I really love the expressions on the Mona Lisa shot. Well done, DigiDog. On a side note, I read somewhere that the Japanese Government donated some 5 million dollars for the restoration/upkeep of the Mona Lisa, since Japanese tourists love it so much.

My photo was the product of being in the right place at the right time. I was in NYC's Chinatown scurrying for groceries last Saturday when I noticed a police van stop at a side street's corner. These four men came out and trudged silently towards the imposing gates. I had all of a minute to set down my groceries, whip out my trusty G6 from my backpack and shoot several frames. I had to act discretely as I didn't want any attention from the cops. I didn't have time to even take out the attached wide angle converter, hence the barrel distortion. Had I did, it would have resulted in clearer resolution.

It was shot in RAW. At the RAW converter, I boosted contrast, desaturated a bit and reset the white balance to cloudy. At PS CS, i adjusted levels and applied some USM.

I'm interested to know the workflow of others here, and the circumstances of taking their shots. We're here to learn! Thanks for reading.

am_pitbull_terrier
9th of May 2005 (Mon), 20:54
Congrats everyone, Nice photos. I didn't have time to do a photo for this contest, so I can't wait to see you all in the next one. :)

KC Jewel
9th of May 2005 (Mon), 22:37
Mine must have really been bad, didn't even get mentioned. I'll try harder on the next one. John

IainB
9th of May 2005 (Mon), 23:01
Mine must have really been bad, didn't even get mentioned. I'll try harder on the next one. John

John, John, John, I am mortified! :o :o :o I don't know how I missed you out! My rough notes clearly include comments on your shot, but in my haste to type them into the browser before cut-off time, I've skipped yours completely.:o:o :o My wife had said "Make sure you don't miss anyone out." I can't let her know that I did....:( I can just hear her derision!
Please accept my humble apology!
IainB:rolleyes:

RAW
9th of May 2005 (Mon), 23:11
Congrats to the winners and a good judging from the host. I loved this challenge the most myself, because it made me go out there and pretend to be a journalist and acting is my other good side...;) .

Bottombracket and all, I shot several shots for this challenge, one was of an artist painting in a building, one of a musician in the subway with people around, one people all at one time getting out of the train and the last the photo I posted. It was hard to choose but in the end i chose this one for I though it had more body language than the others. I cropped the photo a little, other that that I did nothing else...

First I took the shot and latter explained to the girl why I took it for and she agreed and gave me the right to post it...I took several shots after but I posted the one I took without her conscience...it was taken auto for i had only one try and not time to play and fix the best setting for my camera...I wish I knew how to make the best setting without trying and taking one shot first...:confused: .


Thanks for the good challenge Ian.

Regards,
Artan.

IainB
9th of May 2005 (Mon), 23:31
:( I can just hear her derision!

IainB:rolleyes:

She just discovered that I missed KC Jewel out! There go my domestic credits....
The results have now been edited to include my comments on his shot.

Thanks for your comments, RAW. You clearly went to a great deal of effort for your shot. I appreciate your comments about the challenge, and I am glad you had fun. I think we all recognise and respect that there's a lot that goes on to create our shots, and great that judges each week choose to make a comment on every entry. I certainly enjoyed that challenge!
I wonder what digidog will have for us....

KC Jewel
10th of May 2005 (Tue), 00:01
IainB, no problem, stuff like that happens to me all the time. Sorry to get you in trouble at home. It actually worked out that there was more talk about my photo than ever before. Thanks for the insight into my picture, I'm using everyones comments each week to slowly improve my shots. I'll make it to the podium some day. Congrats to all the winners. John

Feihung08
10th of May 2005 (Tue), 00:02
Yeah, congrats to ALL!!
It just sucks that my first 'contest' and I blow it by not reading the rules all the way! :o

BottomBracket, I didn't do anything to mine except a tighter crop.
The lighting was all from the one lamp above his head and I had to use an empty box turned sideways on the coffee table along with a 2 second timer release to keep it as sharp as possible. But he was moving his head around quite a bit!
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Boutty
10th of May 2005 (Tue), 00:34
Wow! This is so good. Well done to everyone. I am learning heaps from these challenges.

I think IainB needs a special pat on the back and may be a "back massage" for his hard work to put on the interesting challenge and well worded comments.

We should also learn from BottomBracket to carry our camera everywhere we go for those 'candid' movements or/and 'good photograph' opportunities.

Shall see you all again in the next challenge!!! ;)

IainB
10th of May 2005 (Tue), 00:56
may be a "back message" ;)

Now we're talking... Maybe if I vacuum the house....;)
IainB

monkey_wrench
10th of May 2005 (Tue), 05:17
well to downrate a picture due to no title in my opinion is abit harsh alot of art work has no title and to be honest i liked it better with no title but i guess it was your decision in the end.

see you all next round

4nR
10th of May 2005 (Tue), 06:03
congratulations everyone, great shots, digidog, dchemist & bottombracket! i guess taking shots of people isnt my strong suit. i just dont feel very comfortable taking pictures of strangers. as for my shot, i had a feeling that guy was crazy, and i really did think that he wouldnt have liked having his picture taken (especially since he had a knife). ;P

BottomBracket
10th of May 2005 (Tue), 06:24
well to downrate a picture due to no title in my opinion is abit harsh alot of art work has no title and to be honest i liked it better with no title but i guess it was your decision in the end.

see you all next round

Don't be too harsh on the judge. That rule has been in effect ever since the Challenge started, and you're not the only one whose picture was ineligible. Every contest has rules, and as in most of life, you do have to abide by them.

As for your pic, I like it. It is amazingly sharp, and if the tension of the old man is what you wish to convey, it works. Nicely desaturated without being too contrasty. Did you use PS3?

monkey_wrench
10th of May 2005 (Tue), 07:58
Don't be too harsh on the judge. That rule has been in effect ever since the Challenge started, and you're not the only one whose picture was ineligible. Every contest has rules, and as in most of life, you do have to abide by them.

As for your pic, I like it. It is amazingly sharp, and if the tension of the old man is what you wish to convey, it works. Nicely desaturated without being too contrasty. Did you use PS3?

i still stand by my comment if you saw an amazing piece of art work and you looked at the name and it said "untitled" would you change your mind and say " i hate it because it hasnt a name" and walk away? no one has to give a name to there art work

but thankyou for the kind words on my picture! :)

BottomBracket
10th of May 2005 (Tue), 08:25
Dura lex, sed lex :)

partridge9
10th of May 2005 (Tue), 08:27
i still stand by my comment if you saw an amazing piece of art work and you looked at the name and it said "untitled" would you change your mind and say " i hate it because it hasnt a name" and walk away? no one has to give a name to there art workWould "Untitled" be an acceptable title? I guess that would be up to the judge.

BottomBracket
10th of May 2005 (Tue), 08:48
If the work's title were "Untitled', then I would accept that the artist would rather that the work speak for itself. But if the title were "Re: POTN G-Series Speed Challenge #13 - Body Language" at the title heading, it shows that either the artist is ignorant of the few Challenge rules, or blatantly disregarding it. Both grounds for ineligibility, I would think. But that's just me. :)

monkey_wrench
10th of May 2005 (Tue), 08:55
If the work's title were "Untitled', then I would accept that the artist would rather that the work speak for itself. But if the title were "Re: POTN G-Series Speed Challenge #13 - Body Language" at the title heading, it shows that either the artist is ignorant of the few Challenge rules, or blatantly disregarding it. Both grounds for ineligibility, I would think. But that's just me. :)

i give up

monkey_wrench
10th of May 2005 (Tue), 09:04
Would "Untitled" be an acceptable title? I guess that would be up to the judge.

but doesnt having no title and the word untitled mean the same thing ??

digidog
10th of May 2005 (Tue), 09:12
:) thanks for picking my shot Iain! It's great when someone else likes one of your pictures - you made my day! Congrats to everyone else too. This challenge is a great way of stretching yourself a bit.
As you mentioned the situation in the Louvre was bordering on the hilarious and the famous picture itself was a bit of a let down compared to the human exhibition :) I'm not big on taking candid shots of strangers but the flip screen on the G-cameras is great for this sort of thing as you can pretend to be reviewing your last shot while secretly snapping away. I don't think there was a ban on pictures but I didn't use my flash just to be on the safe side ;) (I've had problems with that in the past in galleries).

teekay
10th of May 2005 (Tue), 09:39
I have to agree with Monkey-Wrench on this title business. Judges may be technically correct in rejecting entries without titles under the current rules, what is the point of this rule anyway?

So I'm posting a follow up in the appropriate "rules" sticky thread in the hope that we can continue the discussion there.

partridge9
10th of May 2005 (Tue), 11:12
but doesnt having no title and the word untitled mean the same thing ??My point exactly.

IainB
10th of May 2005 (Tue), 15:15
Would "Untitled" be an acceptable title? I guess that would be up to the judge.

Yes, that would be acceptable, for me anyway. It suggests a deliberate choice by the submitter. Leaving the default "Re:POTN G-Series....etc" in the title box doesn't suggest "untitled" to me. I don't like to see any photo ruled out on a technicality either. Perhaps the rule needs to be clarified. At present it implies that the entry needs a word or words. "Untitled" is a word. Perhaps future winners, in posting a new challenge, can add that clarification for his or her challenge along the lines of "Entries with "untitled" in the title box will be accepted."

IainB

marie
10th of May 2005 (Tue), 16:54
Congratulations to everyone especially the winners
Digidog 1st and Dchemist 2nd and Bottom Bracket 3rd

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http://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=71249 (http://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=71249)


the pictures are on that url for anyone who would like to see them at a glance
(kindof at a glance)
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Thank you very much Iain for all the thoughts /remarks which you gave with all the pictures.
it's hard work to pick the winners and I don't envy anyone having to do it


to explain my entry
I had just taken the shot (shown below) and was moving away when I saw that incident happening (the shot I entered for the comp )
the boys knew I was right there beside them taking the other shot,


thought it may be more what you were asking for ,
you said..............

'Have some fun, be cheeky, clever, daring even'

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Congratulations everyone.
I loved your shots http://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif





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IainB
10th of May 2005 (Tue), 17:10
'Have some fun, be cheeky, clever, daring even'



And you were! :D
And it WAS tough to judge. It's not a case of "there are winners and the rest are losers". That's why we like to have some comments about the merits of all entries. We enter, knowing the judge's opinion is subjective, but that's just part of the fun. :)
IainB

BottomBracket
10th of May 2005 (Tue), 17:10
Thanks Marie! I really liked your pic, I think you take the price for cheekiness! I mean, the circumstances of taking your shot....
Your photo evoked memories - I used to play futsal (indoor football) and football a lot - heck I even have several of those yellow and green Brazil jerseys (among others). Thanks for a great pic.

marie
10th of May 2005 (Tue), 17:55
And you were! http://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif
IainB



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I like to be obliging.
no worries

but in all honesty I was a bit worried about showing that shot I entered

funny, a girl shot something like it would not seem so bad (on the forum)
but to show the 'stronger' sex like this ........well, I worried

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and
shh don't say it, but
I never want to win.
I never want to do what you or any winner has to do


Very many thanks Iain

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marie
10th of May 2005 (Tue), 17:56
Thanks Marie! I really liked your pic, I think you take the price for cheekiness! I mean, the circumstances of taking your shot....
Your photo evoked memories - I used to play futsal (indoor football) and football a lot - heck I even have several of those yellow and green Brazil jerseys (among others). Thanks for a great pic.


thank you very much for commenting on the picture BB
I never expected any comments
glad you liked it and that it brought back memories


I didn't say anything about any of the pictures as I hate leaving anyone out or naming anyone in particular
but just to say I enjoyed all the shots very much

thanks again everyone
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