Red-Ringed Tupperware Party with (ineffective) Tin Foil Hats

[T.D.]

Just a point of curiosity....why the big fascination with shooting a picture of a BIF? Its not like there is any big market for them....nor are they all that interesting...

That's a matter of opinion! ;)

It gets in your blood, I tell ya!

[Maureen Souza]

I like BOAB better.......(birds on a branch) actually.

[Woolburr]

Too many other fun things to shoot...I wouldn't want to expend all my energy on just one thing.

[Kevin]

Well I am back after a long afternoon with only one trophy. I posted it with the other birds http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=2650373#post2650373. BTW, I don't wear slippers their built into my Pj's.

[Woolburr]

I like BOAB better.......(birds on a branch) actually.

BOAB seems way more interesting to me...catch them acting natural.

[Maureen Souza]

Mo.. just read your comments in the trade thread re: 5D. You've got some very good points there - I would never give up my FF for anything despite the chorus of all those screaming "FF is not what it's cracked up to be and the N is so much better". Never. If it's anything to go by, I sold my 1D recently.

See?




Congrats on your wedding Mo.

I have another one June 9th. They are really fun...people are so interesting and I am not one of those photographers who gets my panties in a bundle to get the "perfect shot". I prefer most of the candids of the day.

[wu_wei0]

I agree with Wool about the BIF. YOu have other talent. Eyes for other things.
Go look at your gallery, woman. you have lovely shots there. Think of those awesome Abbey shots!
Don't give it up. Muses get lazy and ornery sometimes. look at mine. been on vacation for months. I went through the "sell it all" phase several times. I keep hanging on. one day I'll find some inspiration. OR the weather will get nice enough to get out and force me to go look at the world again.

[Maureen Souza]

Too many other fun things to shoot...I wouldn't want to expend all my energy on just one thing.
I agree 100%. Besides, it is fun to shoot whatever spikes your interest at the moment. I don't profess to be the greatest photographer at anything but I have tons of great memories of everything in my life. And that makes me happy.

[Woolburr]

No way in hell I would toss a portfolio full of great work just because I don't have the perfect BIF shot....not worth it...go shoot some macro!

[Maureen Souza]

No way in hell I would toss a portfolio full of great work just because I don't have the perfect BIF shot....not worth it...go shoot some macro!
That's what I would like to try ....do you recommend one lens (cuz that's all I would buy). Some have said get the 100, others swear by the 60mm. I am not sure....

[wu_wei0]

I miss my 100mm, but have enjoyed my tubes with my other lenses

[T.D.]

That's what I would like to try ....do you recommend one lens (cuz that's all I would buy). Some have said get the 100, others swear by the 60mm. I am not sure....

I have the 60 (which is ef-s). I love it. But if I had it to do over again I'd probably get the 100. I think it's more versatile. I've never used the 100, that's just my perception based on what I've read.

[Woolburr]

The 100 is the nicest one that I have played with...I like it better than the 180 Tupperware version.

[Jon]

No, OTOH, I don't feel a compelling need to go out and shoot every day, or even every weekend. I shoot when my muse takes me, and what I like to. Today I pulled out the D60 (and reaffirmed that the 20D was an essential step up), 5D and A620 with 24-70 and 24-105 for a Peke Club meeting, expecting just to get the 2 dogs of our hosts. In addition (and I really regret not having brought the 70-200 IS) I ended up with 2 new fosters and the club president's pack all romping together in the late afternoon. Tough conditions; not a lot of good stuff, but I was able to firm up my equipment needs and ideas.

[Woolburr]

Plus you got to spend an afternoon with the doggies....

[Jon]

To the dismay of our three :{)#

[T.D.]

Okay Perm, just for you I'm going to completely humiliate myself.

Here is my best BIF shot from today -- and I'm not kidding! Like I said earlier, the light today was horrible. Had to go to ISO 500 and still didn't get it.

Sometimes it just isn't going to happen. My biggest learning so far has been to know when to not set myself up for disappointment. In the past I took it personally when I couldn't get a decent shot. Now I recognize when a great shot isn't possible (and I try anyway...:rolleyes:)

Anyway...here you go:

[Maureen Souza]

Okay Perm, just for you I'm going to completely humiliate myself.

Here is my best BIF shot from today -- and I'm not kidding! Like I said earlier, the light today was horrible. Had to go to ISO 500 and still didn't get it.

Sometimes it just isn't going to happen. My biggest learning so far has been to know when to not set myself up for disappointment. In the past I took it personally when I couldn't get a decent shot. Now I recognize when a great shot isn't possible (and I try anyway...:rolleyes:)

Anyway...here you go:
And that looks GOOD compared to some of my efforts!!:rolleyes:

[puddlepirate44]

That's what I would like to try ....do you recommend one lens (cuz that's all I would buy). Some have said get the 100, others swear by the 60mm. I am not sure....

I've got the old 100. It's probably the sharpest lens I own. Not only does it do spot on macro, but it's also an awesome portrait lens. I'm not too sure the 60 would be in that same portrait field. Something for you, Mo, to consider....

[T.D.]

And that looks GOOD compared to some of my efforts!!:rolleyes:

Oh believe me, I've got a lot worse shots than this. This is just my best from today. :o

[Jon]

That's what I would like to try ....do you recommend one lens (cuz that's all I would buy). Some have said get the 100, others swear by the 60mm. I am not sure....
Get the 100. That way you've got larger 1:1 objects and 2 FoV choices available. The 60 and you're stuck with 1:1 no larger than 15x22.5 mm and only on the 20D.

[Kevin]

That looks like the majority of mine today. But more of an operator problem and not the weather. Which I would really like to blame.

[T.D.]

Played around with the new 50 1.4 for a minute today. The catchlight in this is freaky (it's from my ceiling fan :rolleyes:).

I can't believe the DOF of this thing!

[Kevin]

I can't believe the DOF of this thing!
What DOF.:lol:

[T.D.]

What DOF.:lol:

:lol::lol::lol:

[Maureen Souza]

Played around with the new 50 1.4 for a minute today. The catchlight in this is freaky (it's from my ceiling fan :rolleyes:).

I can't believe the DOF of this thing!
That is too funny. I have that lens and use it alot. It's a great buy.

[T.D.]

That is too funny. I have that lens and use it alot. It's a great buy.

Especially since it doubled my 100-400 rebate to $80! I mailed in my stuff today for my $120 rebate. Not too shabby.

[greg20d]

And that looks GOOD compared to some of my efforts!!:rolleyes:

I havent been able to shoot a moving bird since I sold my shotgun .lol but I keep practicing ..

[Maureen Souza]

I've got the old 100. It's probably the sharpest lens I own. Not only does it do spot on macro, but it's also an awesome portrait lens. I'm not too sure the 60 would be in that same portrait field. Something for you, Mo, to consider....
Can you show me some portrait type shots with that lens, Dan?

[Kevin]

Okay Perm, just for you I'm going to completely humiliate myself.

Here is my best BIF shot from today -- and I'm not kidding! Like I said earlier, the light today was horrible. Had to go to ISO 500 and still didn't get it.

Sometimes it just isn't going to happen. My biggest learning so far has been to know when to not set myself up for disappointment. In the past I took it personally when I couldn't get a decent shot. Now I recognize when a great shot isn't possible (and I try anyway...:rolleyes:)

Anyway...here you go:
I hated to see you humiliate yourself alone. So here's my best DIF from today.
http://www.buzzardgraphics.com/kevin/noduck.jpg

[puddlepirate44]

Can you show me some portrait type shots with that lens, Dan?

I'll see if I can find them.... That's the tough part... I'm very disorganized right now. My New Year's resolution was to sort out my XHD, which I'm doing right now. If and when I find them, I'll get them to you, and alert you to their presence via PM. If nothing else, I'll shoot some new ones tomorrow after our friends take off.

You know, in retrospect, I believe I took some portraits of Lisa with the 100... and she, like most women, wanted me to immediately delete them, even though they turned out pretty nice....

[T.D.]

I hated to see you humiliate yourself alone. So here's my best DIF from today.
http://www.buzzardgraphics.com/kevin/noduck.jpg

Thanks, we're partners in Shame! :rolleyes::lol:

[Kevin]

We only missed the shot by thiiiiiiiiis much.;)

[Kevin]

Can you show me some portrait type shots with that lens, Dan?
You might also check with the Macro guy's.

[Lightstream]

Mo.. I'm an owner of the 60 macro. I recommend you get the 100 ONLY because it is FF compatible. I bought my 60 at a time when FF meant 1DsM2. Even today, that is simply not financially feasible for me. However...

There is something truly special about the 60. The look and feel of its images is something I have rarely seen. I don't know what it is - but every shot that comes out of the 60, regardless of what I mount it on, has a look that is nothing short of amazing. I 'reengineered' my 60 and mounted it on my 1D and the shots that came out of it absolutely floored me. So it transcends platforms as well. It would be my portrait lens of choice. I bought a 85/1.8 and the 60 macro makes it look like a sorry excuse for a lens. Purple fringing, soft wide open.. naah. Give me my 60 any day of the week. I might be axing the 85/1.8 if it doesn't shape up any time soon. The only draw of the 85/1.8 is the large aperture, but I have to stop it down to f/2.0 to get rid of the purple haloing (even indoors in controlled lighting), and there's only one stop difference - I'll bump ISO to compensate.

The ONLY tiny item I would want to add to my wishlist of the 60 is a focus limiter. When working at normal-to-infinity ranges, the 60's USM is blindingly fast. It's when it hunts, that it slows down.

When I got my 30D recently it was like a breath of fresh air being able to use the 60 again. I contemplated selling it so many times because it didn't fit on my 5D - and simply couldn't bring myself to do it. I'm glad I didn't. There are things about the 100 I'm not too keen on, but these concerns have always been dismissed as irrelevant here, so I won't bring them up.

[T.D.]

We only missed the shot by thiiiiiiiiis much.;)

Which, as it turns out, was not nearly as much as I missed this one by!

:oops::oops: I'll never be able to show my face in the bird forum again!:oops::oops:

(And Perm thinks she can't shoot BIF! :rolleyes:)

[T.D.]

Mo.. I'm an owner of the 60 macro. I recommend you get the 100 ONLY because it is FF compatible. I bought my 60 at a time when FF meant 1DsM2. Even today, that is simply not financially feasible for me. However...

There is something truly special about the 60. The look and feel of its images is something I have rarely seen. I don't know what it is - but every shot that comes out of the 60, regardless of what I mount it on, has a look that is nothing short of amazing. I 'reengineered' my 60 and mounted it on my 1D and the shots that came out of it absolutely floored me. So it transcends platforms as well. It would be my portrait lens of choice. I bought a 85/1.8 and the 60 macro makes it look like a sorry excuse for a lens. Purple fringing, soft wide open.. naah. Give me my 60 any day of the week. I might be axing the 85/1.8 if it doesn't shape up any time soon. The only draw of the 85/1.8 is the large aperture, but I have to stop it down to f/2.0 to get rid of the purple haloing (even indoors in controlled lighting), and there's only one stop difference - I'll bump ISO to compensate.


This is one of my favorite shots from my 60 mm ef-s Macro.

http://hoyboy.smugmug.com/photos/69111461-L.jpg

[Kevin]

This is one of my favorite shots from my 60 mm ef-s Macro.
WOW, love it. I have had my eye on the 60 for some time. I think that will be my next gift from B&H.

[Lightstream]

This is one of my favorite shots from my 60 mm ef-s Macro.

http://hoyboy.smugmug.com/photos/69111461-L.jpg

Oooooo... nice!

Love the background of blue and green blending into each other - it makes the bright pink (bold pink? ;) ) of the flower stand out.

And as for the 60's raw imaging performance, it has an MTF curve that is shared only by less than half a dozen other lenses - all of them Big and White.

[Lightstream]

Some of my favorites from the 60. It's usually tasked with product photography in my hands, so you'll see more gear and less flowers.

http://pix.lightrefineries.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=1684&g2_serialNumber=2

http://pix.lightrefineries.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2022&g2_serialNumber=2


Semiconductor LED shown next to a grain of rice for scale. This is full 1:1 macro.. couldn't get any larger than this!
http://pix.lightrefineries.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=559&g2_serialNumber=2

[T.D.]

WOW, love it. I have had my eye on the 60 for some time. I think that will be my next gift from B&H.

Oooooo... nice!

Love the background of blue and green blending into each other - it makes the bright pink (bold pink? ;) ) of the flower stand out.

And as for the 60's raw imaging performance, it has an MTF curve that is shared only by less than half a dozen other lenses - all of them Big and White.

Thanks. I hurriedly took this shot on my front porch last spring to beat the deadline of a photo contest in our local newspaper. This one got published (in a really tiny size). It received honorable mention.

The wind was blowing. So I was trying to hold it with one hand and shoot with the other. The blue is the pot it's in on the front porch.

Thanks again for the feedback!

[theflyingkiwi]

it's good to see that so many others are good at taking some bad shots. :) that's one thing I like about digital, I can keep trying.

that's also why I like shooting macro. it's easer to get the photos than say shooting birds. However I don't think I could just shoot macro, I like to keep trying to shoot different things.

[Lightstream]

it's good to see that so many others are good at taking some bad shots. :) that's one thing I like about digital, I can keep trying.

that's also why I like shooting macro. it's easer to get the photos than say shooting birds. However I don't think I could just shoot macro, I like to keep trying to shoot different things.

That's the thing.. I would never have learned if I had never put well over 22K+ frames thru my DSLRs. I'm actually losing track of how many frames I've used, but it's becoming less and less relevant as I climb into the higher numbers. I just use what I need to and don't give a hoot about those saying 'you shoot too much' or 'you this, you that'. Not like I care about film. When I used film I was so afraid of making mistakes and so concerned about using up film that ONE 36exp roll would last me six months.

You should see my workflow. Yes I shoot extensively in JPEG, I would say 80% of my stuff is JPEG, but you should also see me bracketing and culling. I'm very efficient at that :p Fastest and most practiced part of my workflow is the delete key..


Speaking of digital..

Last night at the dinner table, I was demonstrating drive mode on a friend's Powershot S3 IS and drew a comment "You took all those photos of WHAT?" and I said "I'm just pointing it out of the window and testing" only to draw a look of horror till my friend said "It's DIGITAL.. he's not wasting film"

OMG. http://pix.lightrefineries.org/img/banghead.gif

Later, same person shot across the table "I think anybody who spends $3K on a camera is just stupid" in front of my face (full well KNOWING what I do).

At least I didn't diss them to their face.

[Kevin]

"I think anybody who spends $3K on a camera is just stupid" in front of my face (full well KNOWING what I do).
I had a similar experience some time back. My comment back to the person was " well I guess you are looking at a very very stupid man."

[Lightstream]

I had a similar experience some time back. My comment back to the person was " well I guess you are looking at a very very stupid man."


Great reply! I'll bear that in mind the next time it comes up.

Some people are so old fashioned and conservative they 1. cannot see why others think differently and 2. are completely unwilling to accept anything that conflicts with 'their' ideals. This relic is definitely one of them.

At least I pretend to smile at the dinner table even if I totally disagree with their comments.. one would have think they would have learned at least that much in life.

[Kevin]

Well, I would like to stick around but time to call it till tomorrow.

[theflyingkiwi]

Fastest and most practiced part of my workflow is the delete key..


Speaking of digital..

Last night at the dinner table, I was demonstrating drive mode on a friend's Powershot S3 IS and drew a comment "You took all those photos of WHAT?" and I said "I'm just pointing it out of the window and testing" only to draw a look of horror till my friend said "It's DIGITAL.. he's not wasting film"

OMG. http://pix.lightrefineries.org/img/banghead.gif

Later, same person shot across the table "I think anybody who spends $3K on a camera is just stupid" in front of my face (full well KNOWING what I do).

At least I didn't diss them to their face.

Yep, that delete key. could never figured out where it is. in fact the 10D is a bit slow I don't think it works well on the field. In fact I even hate reviewing photos on it. It just takes toooooooooooooooooooo long.

some people just don't get it. I like telling people how many photos I can take just for the shock value.

[Lightstream]

Night Kevin.. cya tomorrow.

Mark.. I cull on computer, unless I know I botched the shot so bad I would rather delete it, sometimes you find interesting stuff that looked bad or average on the LCD but looks fine on computer. The 1D was pretty bad for image reviewing, no zoom either.

[Belmondo]

When I was in Reno, I ran into the people with the 10D and the 17-40L. When I offered to take the picture for them, the loudmouth at their table asked me if I'd ever seen a $10,000 camera before. I assured him I had not. I didn't have the heart to tell him he hadn't either.

[theflyingkiwi]

Night Kevin.. cya tomorrow.

Mark.. I cull on computer, unless I know I botched the shot so bad I would rather delete it, sometimes you find interesting stuff that looked bad or average on the LCD but looks fine on computer. The 1D was pretty bad for image reviewing, no zoom either.

now that's something I got to learn. I am getting better. I now only delete the ones where I have missed the target. :(

[Lightstream]

When I was in Reno, I ran into the people with the 10D and the 17-40L. When I offered to take the picture for them, the loudmouth at their table asked me if I'd ever seen a $10,000 camera before. I assured him I had not. I didn't have the heart to tell him he hadn't either.

Good one Chief :)

Better to remain silent, and be thought a fool, than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt! You can obviously tell the one mouthing off in this situation.

[T.D.]

Question for you (especially Woolly):

I ordered the Carson Lenspen MiniPro when I ordered the 50 1.4. When I touch the tip, it turns my finger black. It does the same thing to paper.

Am I missing something or is this not right? I'm afraid to touch it to a lens. Any advice?

[Woolburr]

When I was in Reno, I ran into the people with the 10D and the 17-40L. When I offered to take the picture for them, the loudmouth at their table asked me if I'd ever seen a $10,000 camera before. I assured him I had not. I didn't have the heart to tell him he hadn't either.

Should have shown him the 1Dsmk2 with a "brick" on it...ask him for an estimate...that must be a $50,000 unit by his math.;)

[Woolburr]

Question for you (especially Woolly):

I ordered the Carson Lenspen MiniPro when I ordered the 50 1.4. When I touch the tip, it turns my finger black. It does the same thing to paper.

Am I missing something or is this not right? I'm afraid to touch it to a lens. Any advice?

It is supposed to be black....uses a graphite based cleaning compound...harmless to fine optics. Put the cap on...give it a couple of twists to reload the compound and then clean away.

[Belmondo]

It is supposed to be black....uses a graphite based cleaning compound...harmless to fine optics. Put the cap on...give it a couple of twists to reload the compound and then clean away.Really? Hmph. I learn something new here each every day.

[T.D.]

It is supposed to be black....uses a graphite based cleaning compound...harmless to fine optics. Put the cap on...give it a couple of twists to reload the compound and then clean away.

You're not pulling my leg are you?

Won't it mark the lens?

[Lightstream]

Never liked the lenspens. Graphite it may be, but it leaves a residue. I can see smudge marks when I angle the lens against the light.

I use bad breath and microfiber. Usually, the bad breath makes the dirt so terrified, it simply leaps off the lens. Simplest and easiest field cleaning solution.

Of course I don't kiss people on a regular basis either, so that works for me. :p

[Woolburr]

I'm not pulling your leg...that is the honest to goodness truth...and it will not harm your lens or the coating.

[Woolburr]

Look here....http://www.lenspen.com/404#4

[T.D.]

Really? Hmph. I learn something new here each every day.

I'm in the same boat!

I'm not pulling your leg...that is the honest to goodness truth...and it will not harm your lens or the coating.


Thanks!

It's counter-intuitive for my little brain, but I trust you.

[T.D.]

Look here....http://www.lenspen.com/404#4

Okay, okay, I believe you! :o;)

[Woolburr]

I have been using them for almost 10 years now...with no problems at all...I have a friend that works for Kodak....he is the one that turned me on to them to begin with...

[T.D.]

Well folks, I'm exhausted. See you all tomorrow.

[Woolburr]

Sounds like a plan....hasta manana.

[Belmondo]

Well folks, I'm exhausted. See you all tomorrow.I just exhausted, too. Wife is looking at me funny.

[Lightstream]

I just exhausted, too. Wife is looking at me funny.


Quick! Blame the cat! Before it's too late......

[puddlepirate44]

It's not Dolly's fault. Belmondo's just lounging around in his breechclout again.

[Belmondo]

It's not Dolly's fault. Belmondo's just lounging around in his breechclout again.Ha! I'm watching a movie called 'Guardian,' and they used the term 'Puddle Pirate' in it.

I was in the Navy and had never heard that one.

[puddlepirate44]

Ha! I'm watching a movie called 'Guardian,' and they used the term 'Puddle Pirate' in it.

I was in the Navy and had never heard that one.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Puddle Pirate.
Shallow Water Navy
Rich Man's Navy (don't understand that one)
Cops of the Deep

My dad was in the Navy. I was in the USCG. We used to have "lively" discussions....

[Belmondo]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Puddle Pirate.
Shallow Water Navy
Rich Man's Navy (don't understand that one)
Cops of the Deep

My dad was in the Navy. I was in the USCG. We used to have "lively" discussions....

That makes two things I learned tonight. Shall we go for three?

[puddlepirate44]

That makes two things I learned tonight. Shall we go for three?

No matter how cold it gets, gasoline won't freeze. Below -180 F, it just turns gummy

[Permagrin]

Thank you everyone for your encouragements. Sometimes I just get down...it's that old "I refuse to accept that I cannot accomplish X" I guess....

No company...they bailed and forgot to tell us :confused:
so while I waited, I pp'd some landscapes I'd taken last Sat (but hadn't even looked at). The 70-200 and the 1.4 tc combo wasn't really made for landscapes but hey, I don't think they did too bad...

http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/127406094-L.jpg

http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/127406567-L.jpg

my ocean :D
http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/127406371-L.jpg

the beginnings of sunset
http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/127406468-L.jpg

and a bird NOT in flight ;)
http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/127406209-L.jpg

[wu_wei0]

all very nice-- two and three are my faves! sunset is pretty in 4!

[theflyingkiwi]

wow, nice. see you shouldn't give up. if you give up who are we going to admire?

I like 2 best myself

[Belmondo]

No matter how cold it gets, gasoline won't freeze. Below -180 F, it just turns gummyDon't we all?!

[Permagrin]

all very nice-- two and three are my faves! sunset is pretty in 4!

Thans Sis...those were my favorites too :)

wow, nice. see you shouldn't give up. if you give up who are we going to admire?

I like 2 best myself

:D Thanks Mark. That was a nice thing to say!

[puddlepirate44]

Don't we all?!

No. I'll probably get gummy around 75.

[Lightstream]

2 and 3 are nice.... the telephoto compression works here. I know this is a term that is thrown about a lot by the knowledgeable and the not so knowledgeable, and it can make no sense at all - let me explain

An ultrawide angle can make small spaces look huge. Distant objects look MUCH further away than they really are. Telephotos are the reverse - they compress a scene, bringing distant objects closer. #3 is a good example.. the ocean looks as if it is almost going to jump on top of the people :)

So UW increases the apparent relationship distance between the objects, tele does the opposite. Problem with shooting beaches with a UW I find is that everything just looks so tiny, small and far away. Good idea.. maybe I should try a tele next time.

[theflyingkiwi]

2 and 3 are nice.... the telephoto compression works here. I know this is a term that is thrown about a lot by the knowledgeable and the not so knowledgeable, and it can make no sense at all - let me explain

An ultrawide angle can make small spaces look huge. Distant objects look MUCH further away than they really are. Telephotos are the reverse - they compress a scene, bringing distant objects closer. #3 is a good example.. the ocean looks as if it is almost going to jump on top of the people :)

So UW increases the apparent relationship distance between the objects, tele does the opposite. Problem with shooting beaches with a UW I find is that everything just looks so tiny, small and far away. Good idea.. maybe I should try a tele next time.

That I didn't know.

I knew that wide everything is going to be smaller but in all honesty I didn't know about using telezoom.

well I learned something new today.:lol:

[Permagrin]

Believe it or not, the ocean is VERY close to jumping on those people. They weren't very smart that day ;) It was huge and wild and very unpredictable.

It did make for an interesting shoot, to use the telephoto...hard to compose...but you see the results.

[theflyingkiwi]

I guess it comes down to being able to see. my brother likes to use his zoom for everything, I can't understand why.

[Maureen Souza]

Lisa, your photos are wonderful. Don't let a few birds get you down. Here is one of my blurry shots...and they aren't even in flight!!!:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Oh we are a shameful bunch.....sure to set the Bird forum people into a tizzy;)

[Lightstream]

That I didn't know.

I knew that wide everything is going to be smaller but in all honesty I didn't know about using telezoom.

well I learned something new today.:lol:

Yeah I first saw that effect when working crazy ultrawide (10-22mm). I was shooting around my home city and I KNOW the city doesn't look like that.. it was very cool :)


Believe it or not, the ocean is VERY close to jumping on those people. They weren't very smart that day ;) It was huge and wild and very unpredictable.

It did make for an interesting shoot, to use the telephoto...hard to compose...but you see the results.

If it HAD jumped on them.... then you would have had a very interesting photo shoot. Including lifeguards, rescue services and then some. ;)

Here's one of my favorite telephoto shots from yesterday.

I tend to 'see' more in ultrawide but it so happened I looked up and saw this shot.
http://pix.lightrefineries.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2312&g2_serialNumber=2


And here's one for you... coffee on the go! (back to the 17-40/30D)
http://pix.lightrefineries.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2303&g2_serialNumber=2

[Permagrin]

Thank you Maureen...the bird people would ban me for sure! They'd love that other pink flamingo shot you got though...that was perfect!!

[puddlepirate44]

Lisa, your photos are wonderful. Don't let a few birds get you down. Here is one of my blurry shots...and they aren't even in flight!!!:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Oh we are a shameful bunch.....sure to set the Bird forum people into a tizzy;)

Mo, is that a shot of your front lawn?

[Maureen Souza]

Mo, is that a shot of your front lawn?
Oh yeah. I have a huge duck pond there too.

[Maureen Souza]

Thank you Maureen...the bird people would ban me for sure! They'd love that other pink flamingo shot you got though...that was perfect!!
I did get some great bird shots at the zoo. Even through the bars....

[tommykjensen]

BOAB seems way more interesting to me...catch them acting natural.

And a flying bird is not natural ?

I like trying to get a good bird in flight photos. It is difficult to get it right. Taking a photo of a bird sitting still is easy enough :lol:

Now something like this I like to get

http://photo.klein-jensen.dk/photo.php?n=060702_harrishawk5.jpg

[puddlepirate44]

And a flying bird is not natural ?

I like trying to get a good bird in flight photos. It is difficult to get it right. Taking a photo of a bird sitting still is easy enough :lol:

Now something like this I like to get



What, is he handcuffed?

[tommykjensen]

Hehe no. Its a bell and a strap to let the trainer hold the hawk so it does not fly away.

[Permagrin]

Hey guys...was playing around with PE4 and PEframes...what do you think:

before:
http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/127406468-M.jpg


after:
http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/127427308-L.jpg

[puddlepirate44]

Off to bed. Night, All.

[Lightstream]

I like the richer colors in the framed version. A good frame can make a big difference.

[saravrose]

I like the richer colors in the framed version. A good frame can make a big difference.

I just like the colors.. very well done!!

[Permagrin]

thanks Yoda :)...I think I need to apply myself more to PP...it does seem to make a difference...

I like this one better PP'd and framed as well
http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/127430558-L.jpg

[Maureen Souza]

Super Bowl tomorrow....just finished making some dips and buying veggies. I'd cook but I had to buy an new oven today:evil: :evil:
Now I've settled down with my Saturday Bloody Mary and be off to bed soon.

[saravrose]

very pretty.. Perma!!.. I need to wind down and get to bed.. seven hours before my next shift.. My goodness I was busy tonight.. I am soo glad the dang carnival is over..

sari

[tommykjensen]

I prefer simple frames like your first one.

[saravrose]

Super Bowl tomorrow....just finished making some dips and buying veggies. I'd cook but I had to buy an new oven today:evil: :evil:
Now I've settled down with my Saturday Bloody Mary and be off to bed soon.

hi. Oh.. superbowl. I'm annoyed at Superbowl.. for some reason my cousin (22 year old male) has decided to move his daughter birthday party to accomodate a game... :evil: ..

sari

[saravrose]

I went through a frame phase about a year ago.. thought it was fun to add frames and borders to everything!!.. For some reason i've pretty much given up on it lately.. Maybe i'm just getting lazy..

sari

[Maureen Souza]

Your beach photos are beautiful, Lisa. Remember...you only have to please yourself with your photos. As soon as I felt like I didn't have to have validation from anyone else, I started enjoying my shots alot more.
Of course it is always fun to share them and get feedback.

What do you think of this wedding photo? I love the way the reds travel throughout the picture.

[Permagrin]

Super Bowl tomorrow....just finished making some dips and buying veggies. I'd cook but I had to buy an new oven today:evil: :evil:
Now I've settled down with my Saturday Bloody Mary and be off to bed soon.

Now you need to buy a new cook for your new oven :)



And thanks Sari...I like the colors too...jury is still out on the frame for me...

And thanks Tommy, I'm still trying to decide what sort of frame I like...but it's fun playing....

Nice BIF shot too!

[Permagrin]

Your beach photos are beautiful, Lisa. Remember...you only have to please yourself with your photos. As soon as I felt like I didn't have to have validation from anyone else, I started enjoying my shots alot more.
Of course it is always fun to share them and get feedback.

What do you think of this wedding photo? I love the way the reds travel throughout the picture.

I think it's LOVELY. You are right, the red running through it just adds to the romance of the shot! (why do you think red is my favorite color?)

[saravrose]

Your beach photos are beautiful, Lisa. Remember...you only have to please yourself with your photos. As soon as I felt like I didn't have to have validation from anyone else, I started enjoying my shots alot more.
Of course it is always fun to share them and get feedback.

What do you think of this wedding photo? I love the way the reds travel throughout the picture.

I love this.. and the red is really fun and you've made it work for the composition.. great expressions as well..

[Lightstream]

thanks Yoda :)...I think I need to apply myself more to PP...it does seem to make a difference...

I like this one better PP'd and framed as well
http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/127430558-L.jpg

PP helps. I usually only do those that I intend to frame though. You've seen my framing template.. it's the same one, all the time now ;)

Your beach photo is very nice.....very idyllic!

[Permagrin]

I really do very little pp on my stuff. Wu showed me the other day though, how a few adjustments can make amazing differences. I guess I need to not be so lazy :)

Night all...have fun and enjoy the super bowl tomorrow. I know I'm going to.
(and thanks again for the encouragements today...they really did help!)

[Lightstream]

:)

If you shoot RAW you tend to need more. I shoot JPEG with settings optimized for immediate upload for media, so it's a slightly different story. It still benefits from PP though.

Sleep well and we'll see you tomorrow.. no super bowl for us (it's meaningless outside the US.. no offence.. just the way the world is..)

[Permagrin]

Yeah I first saw that effect when working crazy ultrawide (10-22mm). I was shAnd here's one for you... coffee on the go! (back to the 17-40/30D)
http://pix.lightrefineries.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2303&g2_serialNumber=2

I need this vehicle! I didn't see this shot before. Looks like it was a fun day's shoot! And the colors are perfect as usual!

Night all!

[Lightstream]

I need this vehicle! I didn't see this shot before. Looks like it was a fun day's shoot! And the colors are perfect as usual!

Night all!

Thanks.. I was thinking of you when I shot that ;)

I'm a coffeeholic too so it would be the coffee grinds calling the coffee beans black :mrgreen:

[Maureen Souza]

Nite everyone. I am off to bed too. Sleep is soooo good on the weekends:):):)

[Skip Souza]

I need some advice guys.
Maureen's computer keeps crashing and I have been driving myself crazy (a short drive, I know) trying to fix it. I've done everything I can think of except replace the MOBO all to no avail. It will work for awhile then go back to random crashes. It was in the shop for a week while she went back east and never once hiccuped :evil:

Anyway I've decided that a new unit is the way to go. Check out my proposed build from www.ibuypower.com (http://www.ibuypower.com) and tell me what you think.

Oh yeah I will be installing 2GB PC 6400 RAM for an additional $200 from NewEgg rather than the $270 that ibuypower wants.

Case ( NZXT Trinity ATX Mid-Tower Case w/400W Power Supply Silver )
Processor ( [Socket-AM2] AMD Athlon™64 X2 4600+ Dual-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology )
Free Software/Game ( Free Games - [Age of Empires III] and [Rise Of Nations: Rise Of Legend]
Processor Cooling ( Certified CPU Fan and Heatsink )
Motherboard ( GigaByte GA-M55SLI-S4 nForce4-SLI Chipset w/7.1 Audio, Gb LAN, S-ATA Raid, USB 2.0, IEEE-1394 Dual PCI-E MB )
Memory ( 512 MB [512MB X1] DDR2-800 PC6400 Memory Module Corsair-Value or Major Brand )
Video Card ( NVIDIA GeForce 7300LE 256MB Turbocache w/DVI + TV Out Video )
Hard Drive ( 250 GB HARD DRIVE [Serial-ATA-II, 3Gb, 7200 RPM, 8M Cache] )
CD-RW/DVD-RW Drive ( [Lightscribe Technology] 16X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive Black )
Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard )
Speaker System ( 600W PMPO 3 PCS Super Bass Subwoofer Speaker System )
Network Card ( Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100) )
Floppy Drive ( None )
Monitor ( None )
Keyboard ( Combo: Multi-Media/Internet Keyboard + Optical Internet Mouse Silver )
USB 2.0 Accessories ( Build-in USB 2.0 Ports )
Flash Media Reader/Writer ( 12-In-1 Internal Flash Media Card Reader/Writer Silver )
Operation System ( Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium )
Additional Software ( MS Works Suite 2006 [Word, Works, Money, Encarta, Digital Image, Streets and Trips] )
Warranty ( Warranty Service Standard 3-Year Limited Warranty + Lifetime Technical Support )
Rush Service ( Rush Service Fee (not shipping fee) No Rush, Ship Out in 5~10 Business Days )

Sub Total: $800.00

[theflyingkiwi]

thanks Yoda :)...I think I need to apply myself more to PP...it does seem to make a difference...

I like this one better PP'd and framed as well
http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/127430558-L.jpg

very nice.

I have never been a fan of frames on the web. You could say that I am bit old fashion with thinking that frames are for the photo once it's printed.

And it seems that a lot of people choose the same old ones, which look boring.

However when it comes to a printed subject then that's a different case, I believe that each frame should enhance the photo, just applying the same frame to each photograph regardless of the content seems dumb.

[thomascanty]

Check out my proposed build from www.ibuypower.com (http://www.ibuypower.com) and tell me what you think.

Sounds like a nice build. Now you have me looking at a new system!

[Skip Souza]

It is easy to get the itch for one.
Maureen and I each have nearly identical computers built by ibuypower. AMD XP3200 Barton cores. Last of the truly fast 32 bit computers. Three months later AMD hit the market with the Athlon 64 and left me in the dust :-)

[Claire]

Morning all. Argh, more packing! Have to demount the bed today, clean, try to fit some stuff in small boxes, put stuff for throwing away into the garage. Probably leave a heap of paper & folders so I can go through them another weekend.

[Skip Souza]

Morning Claire. I hate moving. Never again. I swear I'll burn everything in place if I have to do it again :evil:

[Lightstream]

Morning Claire. I hate moving. Never again. I swear I'll burn everything in place if I have to do it again :evil:


Feels like my sentiments too! Glad I'm not alone in a way..

[Claire]

I'm more worried for my next move after this, by then I'll have even more stuff!

I'm debating if I should wait with the guitar, plates & TV until later. I don't trust the van, probably better to have them in regular car.

[tommykjensen]

Morning Claire. I hate moving. Never again. I swear I'll burn everything in place if I have to do it again :evil:

Well the actual moving part I hate too but I would actually like to move to a bigger place someday. I have too little space. But apartments in Copenhagen is extremely expensive. Something like 3.000.000 to 5.000.000 dkr = about $500.000 to $850.000

[Skip Souza]

Holy tamoly! Yup that is a considerable sum.

[thomascanty]

Feels like my sentiments too! Glad I'm not alone in a way..

Me three! I'm not in exactly the best neighborhood where I live now, but I stay because I despise moving!

Ok, after spending a little time playing around on ibuypower.com, this is what I've come up with:

. Case: Raidmax Ares Gaming Tower Case w/420W Power Supply Black
. Case Lighting: Neon Light Green
. Processor: [Socket-775] Intel® Pentium-D Processor 940 [3.2GHz, Dual-Core, 2x2MB Cache, 800MHz FSB, 64-Bit]
. Processor Cooling: Certified CPU Fan and Heatsink + 2 Extra Color Lighting Case Fans
. Motherboard: [DDR2] ECS 945P-A i945P Chipset w/7.1 Sound, Gb LAN, USB 2.0 PCI-E MB
. Memory: [Req.DDR2 MainBoard] 512MB DDR2-667 PC5300 Memory Corsair-Value or Major Brand
. Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 7300LE 256MB Turbocache w/DVI + TV Out Video
. 1st Hard Drive: 250 GB HARD DRIVE [Serial-ATA-II, 3Gb, 7200 RPM, 8M Cache]
. 2nd Hard Drive: 250 GB HARD DRIVE [Serial-ATA-II, 3Gb, 7200 RPM, 8M Cache]
. Raid Configuration: Raid-1 [Data Mirroring] With 2X Hard Drives
. CD/DVD Drive: 16X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive Black
. Sound Card: 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard
. Speaker System: 600W PMPO 3 PCS Super Bass Subwoofer Speaker System
. Network Card: Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100)
. Keyboard: Microsoft Internet Keyboard Beige
. Mouse: Logitech Optical Internet Mouse Black
. USB 2.0 Accessories: Add External USB 2.0 Hub (4x USB 2.0 Ports)
. Operation System: MS Windows XP Home Edition w/ Service Pack 2
-- $811

I need to hurry up and get my taxes done. I'm pretty sure my refund this year will pay for it. And, like Skip, I'd be bumping that up to 2Gb, but I'll do that on my own instead of pay them to do it.

[Claire]

Well the actual moving part I hate too but I would actually like to move to a bigger place someday. I have too little space. But apartments in Copenhagen is extremely expensive. Something like 3.000.000 to 5.000.000 dkr = about $500.000 to $850.000

Yikes! That much?? For how big place?

Do you live in central Cph, how big now & did you buy or is it a rental?

[Skip Souza]

Nice build Lonnie.
I'm partial to AMD cpu's and one thing I learned, SILVER cases show much less dust than BLACK, much more low maint. That is the lazy streak in me.
When I get the extra RAM I also plan on blue lighted 120mm fans.

[thomascanty]

I'm partial to AMD cpu's and one thing I learned, SILVER cases show much less dust than BLACK, much more low maint.

I only had one AMD, and that sucker always ran so hot even the case was too hot to rest a hand on. That PC scared me, and I've avoided AMD ever since then. The P4 I have now stays very cool, even on hot summer days, so I guess I'll just stick with what works for me.

I never thought of trying a different colored case. I've always had black. It sits under my desk mostly hidden though, so I guess it doesn't matter much to me if it gets dusty. :)

[Skip Souza]

Yikes! That much?? For how big place?

Do you live in central Cph, how big now & did you buy or is it a rental?
I just saw a T-V program where really nice 650 square ft apartments in San Francisco and Washington D.C were $500,00 and up but in Montana you could get a 3500 square foot house on a bit of land for that.
Location, location, location :rolleyes:

[theflyingkiwi]

I just saw a T-V program where really nice 650 square ft apartments in San Francisco and Washington D.C were $500,00 and up but in Montana you could get a 3500 square foot house on a bit of land for that.
Location, location, location :rolleyes:

in that case then don't check out prices in the south island of new zealand. they will make ya cry :)

[tommykjensen]

Yikes! That much?? For how big place?


It varies but about 100 square meters.


Do you live in central Cph, how big now & did you buy or is it a rental?

I don't live in the center but only have about 20 minutes with bus to the center. My apartment is a rentall. I pay only 1800 dkr a month ($300). Very cheap but only 68 squaremeters.

[Claire]

I don't live in the center but only have about 20 minutes with bus to the center. My apartment is a rentall. I pay only 1800 dkr a month ($300). Very cheap but only 68 squaremeters.

1800 dkr/mth?! For 68kvm? That's disgustingly cheap! That's what students here pay minimum for 28kvm.*faints*

Is it a nice flat & area? Geesh, and you have a good salary, no wonder you can go to Africa...:p

I'm paying 5280 skr ($755) for my 55kvm.

[tommykjensen]

Ouch. Yeah I was really lucky getting this place.

Its a nice apartment just too small. The area could be better. There has been several break-ins in my building. Fortunately for me the apartmens that has been hit sofar all have their frontdoor hidden from view. My front door is in plain view. All the surrounding neighbours would be able see a thief. But just in case I put up bars at the windows and when I leave I lock my front door with a lock that can't be opened without a key. So if a thief gets in through the small space at the windoes he won't be able to walk out the front door with my stuff.

[Woolburr]

Mooooooooooooooooorning all! Apartments here average about $1.25/square foot per month. Most of them are right around 800 square feet and about $1,000 per month. There are some smaller and less expensive ones right around the university....but those are really student housing.
http://www.pbase.com/woolburr/image/44539741.jpg
The apartments in this building are about 600 square feet and go for $2500 a month....

[Woolburr]

I need some advice guys.
Maureen's computer keeps crashing and I have been driving myself crazy (a short drive, I know) trying to fix it. I've done everything I can think of except replace the MOBO all to no avail. It will work for awhile then go back to random crashes. It was in the shop for a week while she went back east and never once hiccuped :evil:

Anyway I've decided that a new unit is the way to go. Check out my proposed build from www.ibuypower.com (http://www.ibuypower.com) and tell me what you think.

Oh yeah I will be installing 2GB PC 6400 RAM for an additional $200 from NewEgg rather than the $270 that ibuypower wants.

Case ( NZXT Trinity ATX Mid-Tower Case w/400W Power Supply Silver )
Processor ( [Socket-AM2] AMD Athlon™64 X2 4600+ Dual-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology )
Free Software/Game ( Free Games - [Age of Empires III] and [Rise Of Nations: Rise Of Legend]
Processor Cooling ( Certified CPU Fan and Heatsink )
Motherboard ( GigaByte GA-M55SLI-S4 nForce4-SLI Chipset w/7.1 Audio, Gb LAN, S-ATA Raid, USB 2.0, IEEE-1394 Dual PCI-E MB )
Memory ( 512 MB [512MB X1] DDR2-800 PC6400 Memory Module Corsair-Value or Major Brand )
Video Card ( NVIDIA GeForce 7300LE 256MB Turbocache w/DVI + TV Out Video )
Hard Drive ( 250 GB HARD DRIVE [Serial-ATA-II, 3Gb, 7200 RPM, 8M Cache] )
CD-RW/DVD-RW Drive ( [Lightscribe Technology] 16X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive Black )
Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard )
Speaker System ( 600W PMPO 3 PCS Super Bass Subwoofer Speaker System )
Network Card ( Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100) )
Floppy Drive ( None )
Monitor ( None )
Keyboard ( Combo: Multi-Media/Internet Keyboard + Optical Internet Mouse Silver )
USB 2.0 Accessories ( Build-in USB 2.0 Ports )
Flash Media Reader/Writer ( 12-In-1 Internal Flash Media Card Reader/Writer Silver )
Operation System ( Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium )
Additional Software ( MS Works Suite 2006 [Word, Works, Money, Encarta, Digital Image, Streets and Trips] )
Warranty ( Warranty Service Standard 3-Year Limited Warranty + Lifetime Technical Support )
Rush Service ( Rush Service Fee (not shipping fee) No Rush, Ship Out in 5~10 Business Days )

Sub Total: $800.00

Skip...that looks like a nice set-up...I think it must be about time to replace my 3200 Barton as well...but it has served rather faithfully and used to run circles around anything out there before the x64 stuff hit the market.

[T.D.]

Thank you everyone for your encouragements. Sometimes I just get down...it's that old "I refuse to accept that I cannot accomplish X" I guess....

No company...they bailed and forgot to tell us
so while I waited, I pp'd some landscapes I'd taken last Sat (but hadn't even looked at). The 70-200 and the 1.4 tc combo wasn't really made for landscapes but hey, I don't think they did too bad...

http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/127406094-L.jpg

http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/127406567-L.jpg

my ocean
http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/127406371-L.jpg

the beginnings of sunset
http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/127406468-L.jpg

and a bird NOT in flight
http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/127406209-L.jpg

Lisa, I totally understand why you want to sell your gear and give up photography - these are horrible. :rolleyes:

PLEASE!!!

These are fantastic!!!

I especially like the first one. My dad worked just down the street from where you were standing when you took this. (For everyone else's edification, this is the town I lived in for 17 or so years, moved 3.5 years ago).

Seriously, Lisa, these are really nice. Let the bird picture skills develop. It'll happen. Focus on these (pun intended;)) types of shots while bringing up your skill in the other area. Before you know it, your BIF shots will be right there as well.

Another thought about your BIF shots...given your preferred shooting areas (National Wildlife Refuges) and the inherent distance of said birds, you may need to consider re-purchasing the 1-4. You're going to be hard pressed to get a really good shot, except on rare occasions, with anything shorter. Just a thought. Now, if you were to take up pigeon-park shooting like PekToral, you wouldn't need to worry about it! ;)

[Woolburr]

Good Moooooooooooooooooooorning Dogfather...how's tricks?

[T.D.]

Good Moooooooooooooooooooorning Dogfather...how's tricks?



Good morning!

I'm listening to NPR and enjoying a little breakfast and getting ready to clean the kitchen. Joy...

When the sun is up a little more, in a few minutes, will start doing my project feeder watch bird count for Cornell.

How are you doing.

[Jon]

I need some advice guys.
Maureen's computer keeps crashing and I have been driving myself crazy (a short drive, I know) trying to fix it. I've done everything I can think of except replace the MOBO all to no avail. It will work for awhile then go back to random crashes. It was in the shop for a week while she went back east and never once hiccuped :evil:

Anyway I've decided that a new unit is the way to go. Check out my proposed build from www.ibuypower.com (http://www.ibuypower.com) and tell me what you think.

Oh yeah I will be installing 2GB PC 6400 RAM for an additional $200 from NewEgg rather than the $270 that ibuypower wants.

Case ( NZXT Trinity ATX Mid-Tower Case w/400W Power Supply Silver )
Processor ( [Socket-AM2] AMD Athlon™64 X2 4600+ Dual-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology )
Free Software/Game ( Free Games - [Age of Empires III] and [Rise Of Nations: Rise Of Legend]
Processor Cooling ( Certified CPU Fan and Heatsink )
Motherboard ( GigaByte GA-M55SLI-S4 nForce4-SLI Chipset w/7.1 Audio, Gb LAN, S-ATA Raid, USB 2.0, IEEE-1394 Dual PCI-E MB )
Memory ( 512 MB [512MB X1] DDR2-800 PC6400 Memory Module Corsair-Value or Major Brand )
Video Card ( NVIDIA GeForce 7300LE 256MB Turbocache w/DVI + TV Out Video )
Hard Drive ( 250 GB HARD DRIVE [Serial-ATA-II, 3Gb, 7200 RPM, 8M Cache] )
CD-RW/DVD-RW Drive ( [Lightscribe Technology] 16X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive Black )
Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard )
Speaker System ( 600W PMPO 3 PCS Super Bass Subwoofer Speaker System )
Network Card ( Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100) )
Floppy Drive ( None )
Monitor ( None )
Keyboard ( Combo: Multi-Media/Internet Keyboard + Optical Internet Mouse Silver )
USB 2.0 Accessories ( Build-in USB 2.0 Ports )
Flash Media Reader/Writer ( 12-In-1 Internal Flash Media Card Reader/Writer Silver )
Operation System ( Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium )
Additional Software ( MS Works Suite 2006 [Word, Works, Money, Encarta, Digital Image, Streets and Trips] )
Warranty ( Warranty Service Standard 3-Year Limited Warranty + Lifetime Technical Support )
Rush Service ( Rush Service Fee (not shipping fee) No Rush, Ship Out in 5~10 Business Days )

Sub Total: $800.00
I'd up the power supply; in my circles NZXT's pretty much an unknown for reliability, and a marginal power supply (on any of the rails, not just overall rating) can give some of the hardest-to-isolate problems; and a power supply degenerates faster than almost any other component. Ideally, PC Power and Cooling, but the Enermax or Thermaltake are good lines.

[Belmondo]

Happy Super Bowl Sunday, everyone.

By the way......something you should all know about me. I was born in America's Dairyland. Mooo.

[puddlepirate44]

Mooooooorning, All. I was all ready to get into the Super Bowl mood, but then I realized that I didn't really care for either team. I think I'll root for the refs this year.

[Woolburr]

Mooo. mooo. Go Colts!

[T.D.]

Mooooooorning, All. I was all ready to get into the Super Bowl mood, but then I realized that I didn't really care for either team. I think I'll root for the refs this year.

I'm with you, for the most part. I would like to see Payton Manning win, but other than that I really couldn't care less....

[puddlepirate44]

I'm torn. I've always liked da Bears defense, but Manning has been so close for so long, and I really respect Dungy.

I guess I just want a good game. I'm getting a bit tired of "one hit wonders". (Oakland, Tampa, Pitt, etc.)

[puddlepirate44]

what time does the game start, anyway?

[Belmondo]

I'm not a big football fan, so I don't much care. I did happen to watch most of the Colts game against New England, and it was one of the better games I can remember. For that reason, I'll probably silently root for them. Beyond that, I won't care who wins or loses, and by Tuesday, probably won't remember.

[T.D.]

what time does the game start, anyway?

Pregame starts at 11:00. Kick off at 3:20.

[puddlepirate44]

Pregame starts at 11:00. Kick off at 3:20.

Pre-game is 4.5 hours long?! Oh yeah. I'm going to sit through all that.... Just like I'll be sure to catch the half time show with Prince.... Oh geez, I hope he doesn't have a wardrobe malfunction.... :shock:

[Belmondo]

Pre-game is 4.5 hours long?! Oh yeah. I'm going to sit through all that.... Just like I'll be sure to catch the half time show with Prince.... Oh geez, I hope he doesn't have a wardrobe malfunction.... :shock:It's already started. CBS just devoted the whole Morning Show to it.

[Woolburr]

I'll turn on the game at 6:20....no need for that other nonsense. Turn it off at halftime....or find something else entertaining for a few minutes.

[Woolburr]

Isn't this the sorriest excuse for a caboose you have ever seen?
http://www.pbase.com/woolburr/image/73851243.jpg

[tommykjensen]

So its going to be quiet in here all day/evening :lol:

[puddlepirate44]

Isn't this the sorriest excuse for a caboose you have ever seen?


Yes. I miss the old cabooses of my youth.

[wu_wei0]

I miss my youthful caboose, too.