Red-Ringed Tupperware Party with (ineffective) Tin Foil Hats

[Woolburr]

Not much different from Carolina, I hear, brother...or is that, cuzzin'?

Tain't no branches on da fambly tree here.

[wu_wei0]

y'all Argentina is really cheap.. maybe we should go there?...
Cheap is good. . .

[Permagrin]

Tain't no branches on da fambly tree here.

whaddaya mean...it IS A FAMILY BRANCH!

[Woolburr]

whaddaya mean...it IS A FAMILY BRANCH!

A branch....as in one...singular...not plural.... diagram of the fambly tree ---> |

[ejwebb]

Tain't no branches on da fambly tree here.

I do have a lot of cousins, most of whom I do not know. No joke. My dad has 6 brothers and sisters and they grew up on a farm. I ain't wearin' no shoes as we speak :lol::lol: Of course we are currently having a heat wave - with rain now. I think it cooled off this eveing to 55 degrees. But they say the winter storm is coming...

[ejwebb]

My avatar - cousin Billy!!

[puddlepirate44]

OK, here's a bed time story for you. There I was, bored out of my skull, trying to capture a macro shot of a water drip. Had the tripod all set up. the remote, the bowl of water, all that. I was really in the "zone". (Please excuse the blurry...)

trying to perfect the timing/exposure/etc.

http://static.flickr.com/120/310848056_89eb8dc808.jpg

What's that?...

http://static.flickr.com/106/310848340_94b9e50558.jpg

My cat decides to grab a quick drink in my afternoon project....

http://static.flickr.com/108/310848685_22fb9fb7d1.jpg

[Permagrin]

I do have a lot of cousins, most of whom I do not know. No joke. My dad has 6 brothers and sisters and they grew up on a farm. I ain't wearin' no shoes as we speak :lol::lol: Of course we are currently having a heat wave - with rain now. I think it cooled off this eveing to 55 degrees. But they say the winter storm is coming...

Wow, I thought there was a terrible storm running through that area down to the heartland...

[Woolburr]

Most of the relatives here say Moooooooooooooooooooooooo!

[wu_wei0]

OK, here's a bed time story for you. There I was, bored out of my skull, trying to capture a macro shot of a water drip. Had the tripod all set up. the remote, the bowl of water, all that. I was really in the "zone". (Please excuse the blurry...)

trying to perfect the timing/exposure/etc.

http://static.flickr.com/120/310848056_89eb8dc808.jpg

What's that?...

http://static.flickr.com/106/310848340_94b9e50558.jpg

My cat decides to grab a quick drink in my afternoon project....

http://static.flickr.com/108/310848685_22fb9fb7d1.jpg

ROFLMBO!! That is priceless. YOu should print and matte them together!

[ejwebb]

OK, here's a bed time story for you. There I was, bored out of my skull, trying to capture a macro shot of a water drip. Had the tripod all set up. the remote, the bowl of water, all that. I was really in the "zone". (Please excuse the blurry...)

trying to perfect the timing/exposure/etc.



What's that?...



My cat decides to grab a quick drink in my afternoon project....



Awesome series - the second one makes it... I need to try this sometime...

[wu_wei0]

A branch....as in one...singular...not plural.... diagram of the fambly tree ---> |
Gee you're a graphic artist, too! a man of many talents. One question - where do the nuts hang from a branchless family tree?

[Woolburr]

Classic!

[Woolburr]

Gee you're a graphic artist, too! a man of many talents. One question - where do the nuts hang from a branchless family tree?


Do you honestly want an answer to that? :lol:

[wu_wei0]

Do you honestly want an answer to that? :lol:
you can educate me later.:lol:
I better go to bed before I start any trouble.
'night all

[wu_wei0]

Sari, keep me updated on the trip :) Looks like it will have to be a world tour, after all.

[saravrose]

good night wu i'm right behind you.. I do have to be up at five...

[Woolburr]

I think inscrutable cousin Wun Hung Lo holds the key.

[Woolburr]

Good night ladies...happy dreams!

[puddlepirate44]

Awesome series - the second one makes it... I need to try this sometime...

Some of the end results... Post Pacha (the cat)

http://static.flickr.com/105/298468530_c66d1a4c43.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/107/298468668_c5a7cea34b.jpg

[saravrose]

Sari, keep me updated on the trip :) Looks like it will have to be a world tour, after all.


hehe.. careful I'm constantly watching t.v. I could decide that we have to go to Iceland, or Germany next.. or Scotland or Poland or China...

[Permagrin]

Goodnight all...it's been too fun tonight!

[ejwebb]

you can educate me later.:lol:
I better go to bed before I start any trouble.
'night all

Maybe that's what I should have done...

[saravrose]

night.. ttyl..

[ejwebb]

Some of the end results... Post Pacha (the cat)




Very cool...I see a project in my future !! :D:D

[Woolburr]

Maybe that's what I should have done...


Hell no cuzzin Webbster....this is the place for fun.;)

[ejwebb]

Hell no cuzzin Webbster....this is the place for fun.;)

Thanks. Night all...

[Woolburr]

Hasta manana

[Lightstream]

Now take that back...I've been trying to convince you to buy the 7-2 f4 IS!
And he was "requested"....he's doing the martyr thing to inspire sympathy from all you manly men types...I simply asked him to post the shot....batted my eyelashes, turned down the lights and dangled the 24-105L in front of him....(that's called subtle persuasion) ;)

OK! OK! I do.. you were trying to convince me to buy the 7-2 ;)

... and the 200/2.8 after that.. :mrgreen:

Subtle as a tactical nuclear strike.:rolleyes: Females....sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh

I thought that was my idea of subtlety when 'firing warning shots'.. great minds think alike eh PG ;)


OK, here's a bed time story for you. There I was, bored out of my skull, trying to capture a macro shot of a water drip. Had the tripod all set up. the remote, the bowl of water, all that. I was really in the "zone". (Please excuse the blurry...)

trying to perfect the timing/exposure/etc.
What's that?...
My cat decides to grab a quick drink in my afternoon project....

http://static.flickr.com/108/310848685_22fb9fb7d1.jpg

HAHAHAHHAHAHA.. I was seriously laughing at that!! That's brilliant!

Some of the end results... Post Pacha (the cat)

http://static.flickr.com/105/298468530_c66d1a4c43.jpg


Nice, I like the blue tint of the water. Looks like you pulled it off really well after pulling the cat off :D

Man this thread seems to be back to its usual self.... I go to another important meeting for just 3 hours and it adds 4 pages..

[Permagrin]

Wow, this thread quieted down...I leave for a while to attend to domesticities and *poof* all have done their disappearing act...IT IS A CIRCUS!


SO LS, have you purchased any of those lenses I've being dangling in front of you? :lol:

Whoa, Webby, your avatar is seriously frightening!

[Lightstream]

I thought you said you were going to bed! Surprised to see you still here....

I am waiting to get home to purchase the 70-200/4 IS, and then we will see about the 'fast prime' problem after that.. either that or I may be so happy with the 7-2/4 ISL that I don't bother buying any fast primes and simply leave it. 5D + ISO rules..

The 300/4 is up to $610 now...hoping it will fetch closer to what it is worth.

See my 'low light dilemma' thread : http://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=2337189#post2337189 :D

I wish my decision was as easy with a predictable subject, then the decision would be a snap. Liza's sports recommendations are very good ones.. just that events in general are completely unpredictable and no two are ever the same.

[Permagrin]

I thought you said you were going to bed! Surprised to see you still here....

I am waiting to get home to purchase the 70-200/4 IS, and then we will see about the 'fast prime' problem after that.. either that or I may be so happy with the 7-2/4 ISL that I don't bother buying any fast primes and simply leave it. 5D + ISO rules..

The 300/4 is up to $610 now...hoping it will fetch closer to what it is worth.

See my 'low light dilemma' thread : http://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=2337189#post2337189 :D

No, I said goodnight to everyone who was saying goodnight...then I went to get a bit of work done before bed.

You'll probably like the 7-2F4IS the best...Ed is just toying with me...dangling it's photos all around the place so that like a pet shark I'll BITE!!! auuuugh If he posts one here, I'm a goner, you realize that...:)

okay I'll check out the thread...

[Lightstream]

No, I said goodnight to everyone who was saying goodnight...then I went to get a bit of work done before bed.

You'll probably like the 7-2F4IS the best...Ed is just toying with me...dangling it's photos all around the place so that like a pet shark I'll BITE!!! auuuugh If he posts one here, I'm a goner, you realize that...:)

okay I'll check out the thread...

Ahh, I see, that's cool.. I missed out on most of the thread but oh well occasionally one actually has to get things done :mrgreen:

Go for it!! Buy first, think later! :D

[theflyingkiwi]

. . . I am currently playing with a themometer.. One of the guys bought the wrong kind so they can't be used outside.. but, I stuck it on the door of my patio and i'm watching the temperature drop. just as soon as it stops I plan on taking a picture. . .

I think you should post that here. I will be interested in seeing how cold it gets. I don't get the snow where I am.

OK, here's a bed time story for you. There I was, bored out of my skull, trying to capture a macro shot of a water drip. Had the tripod all set up. the remote, the bowl of water, all that.

I read somewhere the best way of doing this is strobing your flash. If you don't already have an external flash, get one and make sure it does the function of stobe. What you do is have the shutter open for a bout a sec or so and strobe the flash. the camera will capture the light coming of the water.

As for the next trip, what about a world trip. As a group I am sure we could get a discount.

[Lightstream]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TRAVEL/11/30/traveler.screening.ap/index.html

Hmm... looks like it just got more difficult to visit the Land of the Free.. I would love a chance to go back (there are so many wonderful things to see), but it sure seems difficult with all the new security in place.

[Permagrin]

Okay, Lightstream, I just paved the way for you to sell half your kit!

[Lightstream]

Okay, Lightstream, I just paved the way for you to sell half your kit!

I know....I'm crushed http://pix.lightrefineries.org/img/cry.gif http://pix.lightrefineries.org/img/crackup.gif

Actually it's a good strategy if you view things from a logical perspective. Your suggestions on what to buy are great! I might actually start with the 85/1.8 so as not to punch that big a hole in the wallet. Oh, did y'all notice that B&H recently hed a gigantic Condition 10 sale? I bookmarked their "Used lenses" page and got SO many results I accidentally thought I loaded the regular lens pages so I refreshed a couple of times!!

These are probably a bunch of Canon refurbs that have come back (B&H is the 'factory outlet' so to speak). 135/2 was $699 last night, down from $900. But not now.. I don't feel tempted. I will wait for the next sale.. but I can tell you these sales are fantastic! What a way to save a bundle. The stuff is all gone today, but it was nice to know they come around. One has to act fast though..

[Permagrin]

I know....I'm crushed http://pix.lightrefineries.org/img/cry.gif http://pix.lightrefineries.org/img/crackup.gif

Actually it's a good strategy if you view things from a logical perspective. Your suggestions on what to buy are great! I might actually start with the 85/1.8 so as not to punch that big a hole in the wallet. Oh, did y'all notice that B&H recently hed a gigantic Condition 10 sale? I bookmarked their "Used lenses" page and got SO many results I accidentally thought I loaded the regular lens pages so I refreshed a couple of times!!

These are probably a bunch of Canon refurbs that have come back (B&H is the 'factory outlet' so to speak). 135/2 was $699 last night, down from $900. But not now.. I don't feel tempted. I will wait for the next sale.. but I can tell you these sales are fantastic! What a way to save a bundle.

Hey, I considered listing you for sale but I was going for the high ticket items! http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/108890997-S.gif J/K!!! No I haven't been to B&H lately...the "hurrah, I've lost my weight (and paid off the bowflex) treat" is a new lens...

[puddlepirate44]

I read somewhere the best way of doing this is strobing your flash. If you don't already have an external flash, get one and make sure it does the function of stobe. What you do is have the shutter open for a bout a sec or so and strobe the flash. the camera will capture the light coming of the water.



That sounds cool. I'll have to see if the 580 ex has that function. To be honest, I don't think I've ever used it.... (it's my wife's. I'll have to sneak it out of her kit bag....) Thanks for the info!

[Lightstream]

Hey, I considered listing you for sale but I was going for the high ticket items! http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/108890997-S.gif J/K!!! No I haven't been to B&H lately...the "hurrah, I've lost my weight (and paid off the bowflex) treat" is a new lens...


WTS: photographer, condition 6. Shows signs of prior abuse. Not very good condition, with more-than-normal sanity loss for its age due to a high toll inflicted by its usual operating environment. Occasionally takes good photos but takes a lot of digital exposures to ensure that. Lots of brassing around the edges but edges still remain sharp. Optics are in fair condition but require dioptric correction.


You're right, finding a buyer could be hard ;)

[Lightstream]

Interesting thought:

28/1.8 and 85/1.8

Take two bodies (obviously). This will give me

28mm (28 on 5D)
45mm (28 on 350D)
85mm (85 on 5D)
135mm (85 on 350D)

Wow....that *IS* a very nice spectrum of cover with just two lenses that can be easily switched when the situation demands!

[Permagrin]

WTS: photographer, condition 6. Shows signs of prior abuse. Not very good condition, with more-than-normal sanity loss for its age due to a high toll inflicted by its usual operating environment. Occasionally takes good photos but takes a lot of digital exposures to ensure that. Lots of brassing around the edges but edges still remain sharp. Optics are in fair condition but require dioptric correction.


You're right, finding a buyer could be hard ;)

man you should NEVER let the owner value the property...either they value it too high or way too low!!!
The ad should run something like this:
WTS: photographer...mid 20's or thereabouts, condition 10. Works hard. Is funny and kind. A little lacking in sanity but makes up for it in humor. Takes very good photos but more importantly likes to travel all over to take them. Promises to drink less when happy! Inquire by PM.

Now that's what I call an evaluation based on fact (not prejudice) ;) Night LS!

[Lightstream]

man you should NEVER let the owner value the property...either they value it too high or way too low!!!
The ad should run something like this:
WTS: photographer...mid 20's or thereabouts, condition 10. Works hard. Is funny and kind. A little lacking in sanity but makes up for it in humor. Takes very good photos but more importantly likes to travel all over to take them. Promises to drink less when happy! Inquire by PM.

Now that's what I call an evaluation based on fact (not prejudice) ;) Night LS!

Hahaha cool! :) Thanks for the kind words and the even kinder evaluation.. (mine was written a little tongue in cheek though) night!!

[Lightstream]

WOOOOOOHOOOOOO!!!

I'd been bidding on a tripod collar, but was outbid a day before, and forgot to put in an updated bid. Then just today, I logged into my account to see a second chance offer, either the top bidder chickened out, or whatever (I don't know, nor do I care), so I nailed the collar with Buy It Now...... OH YEAH!!!!

This is a 3rd party collar, but it is $40 cheaper than the cheapest price I could find on the original and has been tested by our own POTN'er LightRules, so it's good to go.

Oh, and .. what collar.. 70-200/4 collar..

We all know where this is going.. that basically means I'm all set to buy the lens!

[Permagrin]

WOOOOOOHOOOOOO!!!

I'd been bidding on a tripod collar, but was outbid a day before, and forgot to put in an updated bid. Then just today, I logged into my account to see a second chance offer, either the top bidder chickened out, or whatever (I don't know, nor do I care), so I nailed the collar with Buy It Now...... OH YEAH!!!!

This is a 3rd party collar, but it is $40 cheaper than the cheapest price I could find on the original and has been tested by our own POTN'er LightRules, so it's good to go.

Oh, and .. what collar.. 70-200/4 collar..

We all know where this is going.. that basically means I'm all set to buy the lens!

Well, I guess we DO know where this is going......:lol: :lol: :lol:
I've never had a second chance offer from Ebay so I don't know what it is, but I'm glad that you were able to get your collar.

It's 2:54 AM here...sigh. I am trying to sleep because I've got a long day tomorrow but alas I'm unable to achieve: (to quote Shakespeare)
Sleep that knits up the ravelled sleave of care
The death of each day's life, sore labour's bath
Balm of hurt minds, great nature's second course,
Chief nourisher in life's feast.

[Lightstream]

Well, I guess we DO know where this is going......:lol: :lol: :lol:
I've never had a second chance offer from Ebay so I don't know what it is, but I'm glad that you were able to get your collar.

It's 2:54 AM here...sigh. I am trying to sleep because I've got a long day tomorrow but alas I'm unable to achieve: (to quote Shakespeare)
Sleep that knits up the ravelled sleave of care
The death of each day's life, sore labour's bath
Balm of hurt minds, great nature's second course,
Chief nourisher in life's feast.

Oh dear... another BFK maybe?

Sometimes I don't sleep well when I know I have much to do tomorrow.. I sleep best when tomorrow's gonna be same ole routine.

Ebay second chance offer - let's say you're a seller, you sell an item, highest bidder wins, the usual stuff. After winning, highest bidder contacts you to back out, or you determine he is not eligible (ie. needs shipping to a country you don't ship to). So you cancel the bid and send a Second Chance offer to the next-highest-bidder who's notified and then has an option (non-binding) to purchase the item at their previous highest bid.

Looks like something happened and I got it.. at a few bucks less too :D


Anyway after reading a bit more I have decided that the 70-300 IS is far superior to the 70-200/4 ISL in terms of value, so I am keeping it.









JUST KIDDING!!!

(wait, that was not good, I'm not supposed to wake you up and make you spilll the BFK am I ;) )

[Permagrin]

Oh dear... another BFK maybe?

Sometimes I don't sleep well when I know I have much to do tomorrow.. I sleep best when tomorrow's gonna be same ole routine.

Ebay second chance offer - let's say you're a seller, you sell an item, highest bidder wins, the usual stuff. After winning, highest bidder contacts you to back out, or you determine he is not eligible (ie. needs shipping to a country you don't ship to). So you cancel the bid and send a Second Chance offer to the next-highest-bidder who's notified and then has an option (non-binding) to purchase the item at their previous highest bid.

Looks like something happened and I got it.. at a few bucks less too :D


Anyway after reading a bit more I have decided that the 70-300 IS is far superior to the 70-200/4 ISL in terms of value, so I am keeping it.

JUST KIDDING!!!

(wait, that was not good, I'm not supposed to wake you up and make you spilll the BFK am I ;) )

:lol: :lol: :lol: (I'm not drinking...may take some nyquil though. I really DO have a busy day tomorrow.) I AM wondering just HOW MANY lenses you are going to come back with, after your visit home though....

[Lightstream]

:lol: :lol: :lol: (I'm not drinking...may take some nyquil though. I really DO have a busy day tomorrow.) I AM wondering just HOW MANY lenses you are going to come back with, after your visit home though....


That is the problem of having an outstanding LCS (Local Camera Shop) with good dealers whom you get on well with. The senior staff are photogs themselves, some of which have fairly impressive work they share with us on occasion. All have their own eccentricities and preferences and some even like Noink... ;) (should hear the D200 pimping going on!!)

Hmm...

All I want for Christmas is a 85/1.8, 100 macro, 135/2, 200/2.8, 70-200/4 ISL, 1.4X TC, 2X TC, 70-200/2.8 ISL, now how many was that?

:D

Naah.. I am not greedy and I am grateful for how many of my dreams have already come true (FF, 24-105, 1-4, collar, 724ISL). I just ask for one. I will decide whether to build the lowlight kit when I get back, perhaps I may not. I am actually hoping that the 5D will pull thru on f/4 (you'd be surprised how much of a difference f/5.6 to f/4 is, but even more surprised that f/4 to 2.8 is NOT, at least not to me) with clean high ISOs.. and work out :)

It is easy to forget how some have to work with less.. I was just advising someone with a 350D, 18-55, 75-300 - and realizing that not so long ago *I* was that user. Sub the long lens with a Tamron 70-300 and you know where we're driving at.

[Permagrin]

Here's to all my fellow "cuppa's"......(I just read these quotes about coffee and thought they should greet your mornings as well...since hopefully I'll be asleep by then!)

"Sleep is a symptom of caffeine deprivation. ~Author Unknown

Decaffeinated coffee is kind of like kissing your sister. ~Bob Irwin

I drink way too much coffee. But if it weren't for the coffee, I'd have no identifiable personality whatsoever. ~David Letterman

No coffee can be good in the mouth that does not first send a sweet offering of odor to the nostrils. ~Henry Ward Beecher

[Permagrin]

I'm sure you'll find just what you want...and won't be long now. ;)

Now that I have tried to bore myself to sleep with quotes....

"...I, in the chilling twilight stand and wait At the portcullis, at thy castle gate, Longing to see the charmed door of dreams Turn on its noiseless hinges, delicate sleep!"
Author: Thomas Bailey Aldrich

so goodnight again.:)

[Lightstream]

puddle already knows one of the good ones.. too much blood in the caffiene stream ;)

Saw him mention it in another thread.. yes.. about you.. ;)\

night! x2 :D

I would show you a pic of the Tamron but you would then never be able to get to sleep :p

I got ONE keeper out of that and you wouldn't believe how much PP work was required to make it look good.

[Woolburr]

Yoda...get yourself an 85 f/1.8....that should do you just fine.

[Lightstream]

Sounds like a plan :)

I never did appreciate the 50/1.8 (80mm equiv) on a crop.. but then again the 50/1.8 never lent itself to being that much appreciated anyway!

Hmm.. maybe I will like the 85 better especially if I mount it on the 350D (135mm). I did use the long end of my 17-85 quite a fair bit too.

[saravrose]

Sounds like a plan :)

I never did appreciate the 50/1.8 (80mm equiv) on a crop.. but then again the 50/1.8 never lent itself to being that much appreciated anyway!

Hmm.. maybe I will like the 85 better especially if I mount it on the 350D (135mm). I did use the long end of my 17-85 quite a fair bit too.

I agree that I don't like the length of the 50 on a cropped body.. I've found it more than difficult indoors but, it does have it's places and definately has a justifiable following.. I've appreciated it on more than one occasion... ;) ..

sari

[ejwebb]

Yoda...get yourself an 85 f/1.8....that should do you just fine.

I think I need one, too... and a 30 1.4 and a...

I have been thinking of selling the 24-105 for an 85 and either Tammy 17-50 or Siggie 17-70. I really thought I needed the long end but now feel the short end is more important... will i ever be satisfied?

[saravrose]

I think I need one, too... and a 30 1.4 and a...

I have been thinking of selling the 24-105 for an 85 and either Tammy 17-50 or Siggie 17-70. I really thought I needed the long end but now feel the short end is more important... will i ever be satisfied?

nope. I don't think you will.. i'm kind of wanting that 30 myself.. i'll get around to it eventually and i'm LOVING my tammy.. ;) ..

[ejwebb]

I love the 24-105 - it's sharp, has unparallelled color and contrast but it just ain't long enough at times - and a bit too slow at others...

I had a Tammy 28-75 and now regret selling it...

I just bought a $60 kit lens to see how I get along with the focal lenght to see if a change would be worthwhile - we'll see how that goes.

[Lightstream]

POTN strikes me as a little strange at times, you hear lots of folks bitching that "Don't ever buy an EF-S lens because it won't fit on full frame/1.3X crop, what if you upgrade some day" and then turn around and recommend 3rd party 1.6X-only lenses. Not like I have anything against the Sigma 30/1.4 but ya think they would be a bit more consistent in their complaining wouldn't ya ;)

I have a 28/1.8 because I am caring for and feeding a FF/1.3X system in addition to a EF-S system. No regrets. The 28 is nice on 1.6X too (45mm slightly-wider-than-standard appeals to me)

EJ.. oh please.... selling the awesome 24-105 for a Tamron or Sigma..

If you want wide try the 17-55/2.8 IS USM - now that is a BEAST of a lens. There is NOTHING that does the job as well. For available-light events coverage that is absolutely the lens to work with.

BTW I don't particularly like the 24-105 on 1.6X crop either.. wide is nowhere near wide enough.

It's either that or upgrade to the 5D, PG and I both use the 24-105 as the bread-n-butter go everywhere do everything zoom and love it to death. The 5D's ISO advantage gives us back the one stop we need, so I can functionally use this lens in a 17-55/2.8 role and get away with it.

[ejwebb]

POTN strikes me as a little strange at times, you hear lots of folks bitching that "Don't ever buy an EF-S lens because it won't fit on full frame/1.3X crop, what if you upgrade some day" and then turn around and recommend 3rd party 1.6X-only lenses. Not like I have anything against the Sigma 30/1.4 but ya think they would be a bit more consistent in their complaining wouldn't ya ;)

I have a 28/1.8 because I am caring for and feeding a FF/1.3X system in addition to a EF-S system. No regrets. The 28 is nice on 1.6X too (45mm slightly-wider-than-standard appeals to me)

EJ.. oh please.... selling the awesome 24-105 for a Tamron or Sigma..

If you want wide try the 17-55/2.8 IS USM - now that is a BEAST of a lens. There is NOTHING that does the job as well. For available-light events coverage that is absolutely the lens to work with.

BTW I don't particularly like the 24-105 on 1.6X crop either.. wide is nowhere near wide enough.

It's either that or upgrade to the 5D, PG and I both use the 24-105 as the bread-n-butter go everywhere do everything zoom and love it to death. The 5D's ISO advantage gives us back the one stop we need, so I can functionally use this lens in a 17-55/2.8 role and get away with it.

I just don't get hung up in the name or things like "build quality". If this was a profession, maybe it would matter, but for me, it's getting the shot I want that matters. The 24-105 excels in certain areas but is lacking in others. Lately the lacking aspect is nagging at me. Plus, I hate having that much money tied up in a single lens when it could almost fund 3 others that I might rather have...

I consider the 28 1.8 as well - have you seen a comparison to the 30? I picked up a 28 2.8 for next to nothing as a normal lens and I like it but the AF is extremely slow - another stop or two wouldn't hurt either.

[Lightstream]

I just don't get hung up in the name or things like "build quality". If this was a profession, maybe it would matter, but for me, it's getting the shot I want that matters. The 24-105 excels in certain areas but is lacking in others. Lately the lacking aspect is nagging at me. Plus, I hate having that much money tied up in a single lens when it could almost fund 3 others that I might rather have...

I consider the 28 1.8 as well - have you seen a comparison to the 30? I picked up a 28 2.8 for next to nothing as a normal lens and I like it but the AF is extremely slow - another stop or two wouldn't hurt either.


True, I guess I have been let down hard before. Not to say I didn't want to like the other lenses - who wouldn't? Let's see, similar specs for 1/3rd the price.. what was there not to like? But.. it didn't work out I guess :(

Haven't seen any comparisons, but I was just playing with the little 28 on the 350D and I have been reminded of how awesome a fast 1.8 prime can be. AF is VERY fast thanks to the ultrasonics, in fact, ranks up there with my best. It actually helps the 350D a lot because it provides so much extra light to work with.

IIRC the Sigma 30/1.4's AF performance was very good thanks to the HSM motor. I have a 70-200 zoom and AI Servo with the 1D is just as good as everything I have come to expect from the USM L's, so I have faith in their HSM technology. Ultrasonics (generically referring to both brands/types) are important not only for focus speed, but focus accuracy, the latter carrying extra weight in my eyes. SIlent AF? I could care less, the 35/2 buzzing hornet AFD does not faze me in the least.

PS: Similar specs for 1/2 the price actually did work out for me - got my 70-200/2.8 for less than half of what a Canon would have cost me.

[ejwebb]

I know, the 24-105 is a fine piece of gear - so much so that I have not pulled the trigger yet... but you never know...

[Woolburr]

Fear not Master Yoda...you will never hear me recommend a third-party lens.

[Woolburr]

Webby...what areas do you find the 24-105 to be lacking in? The only short coming I have noticed is it doesn't have quite the range of the 28-135...

[Lightstream]

Fear not Master Yoda...you will never hear me recommend a third-party lens.

I would do the Permagrin "MY HERO" thing but it would be too sappy especially since I am a guy ;)

[saravrose]

well then.. Okay so no third party glass.. regardless of how pretty the PICTURE is.. I won't recommend any anymore.. but, will happily shoot with my Tammy and plot my next purchase.. will it be Canon? will it not be Canon.. who knows?.. I suppose it will have to depend on income, wants, needs and what will get the job done.. I wonder if anybody has done some research as to how much faster tammy or sigma's break down and fall apart compared to Canons?.. I'd be curious to see just how much more durable they are in comparison..

sari

[ejwebb]

Webby...what areas do you find the 24-105 to be lacking in? The only short coming I have noticed is it doesn't have quite the range of the 28-135...

It's not wide enough about 1/3 of the time for me - but a 50mm wouldn't be long enough 1/3 of the time either. A range of 17-75 would probably be about perfect for most situaitions which is why I am entertaining a 17-50 and 85 combo. The long end is mostly for kid stage performances and sports - they are young for now so it's plenty of length and speed for what I need.

F4 is limiting - both from a speed and DOF/bokeh perspective - my Tammy 28-75 was much nicer in this respect.

It's big and heavy - I know, better than the 24-70 but I feel liberated when I have a smaller, lighter, less-imposing lens on the camera...

Expensive for a single lens...

Note, I do love the lens and am not mentioning it's great attrubutes - IS, sharpness, build, AF speed/accuracy, color, contrast, etc.

[ejwebb]

well then.. Okay so no third party glass.. regardless of how pretty the PICTURE is.. I won't recommend any anymore.. but, will happily shoot with my Tammy and plot my next purchase.. will it be Canon? will it not be Canon.. who knows?.. I suppose it will have to depend on income, wants, needs and what will get the job done.. I wonder if anybody has done some research as to how much faster tammy or sigma's break down and fall apart compared to Canons?.. I'd be curious to see just how much more durable they are in comparison..

sari

Recommend all you want, Sari. :D Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. You can't make everyone agree with you but you can articulate the arguments for your position - which may help someone else make the right decision for them. Different strokes and all, you know...;)

[saravrose]

Recommend all you want, Sari. :D Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. You can't make everyone agree with you but you can articulate the arguments for your position - which may help someone else make the right decision for them. Different strokes and all, you know...;)

very true.. and completely fair.. ;) .. Kind of funny don't ya think. How different folk's opinions can be in what is largely about numbers and putting different things together.. In a which lens thread I was reading one poster said to not go above 400ISO. the next reply down somebody said to use 3200... Now, describing the same situation with the same gear two photographers have the opposite opinion.. and they both get the job done and have something to show for it.. Kind of interesting..

Like Petey's penchant for L and Dave's pride in his old school MF glass... there's no real way to completely judge who's choices are better.. I suppose that's where the artist in us comes out. I find nothing wrong with my Tammy I enjoy it completely and i'm thrilled with the photos from it. Other's think that it's under par and that there are a lot better options out there that make the Tammy not worth considering..

But, at the end of the day we all come home with our photos have you noticed how if you have a bad shot with an L it's completely the users fault but if you have a good shot with a third party than the photographer gets all kinds of accolades. 'Photographer triumphs over cheap glass'...

sari

[Woolburr]

well then.. Okay so no third party glass.. regardless of how pretty the PICTURE is.. I won't recommend any anymore.. but, will happily shoot with my Tammy and plot my next purchase.. will it be Canon? will it not be Canon.. who knows?.. I suppose it will have to depend on income, wants, needs and what will get the job done.. I wonder if anybody has done some research as to how much faster tammy or sigma's break down and fall apart compared to Canons?.. I'd be curious to see just how much more durable they are in comparison..

sari

Photography is totally subjective....and the bottom line is....if you are happy with the images produced by your camera and lens combinations, it doesn't matter who manufactured them. There is nothing really wrong with third-party lenses, with a few little caveats. Because they are not endorsed or supported by Canon...every third-party lens is a bit of a compromise...they don't have the same quality of components and technology that Canon can offer on it's own line, the lenses are all reverse engineered, which can lead to a bit of slop in tolerances and in an effort to hold the price to a reasonable level, compromises have to be made in build quality, optical performance and focus speed and accuracy. On top of that, Sigma lenses make the most annoying sound on the face of the planet. That said, I use Tamron TC's.

[saravrose]

hehe.. note to self sigma glass sounds annoying.. is it like nails on chalkboard or listening to nifty hunt for focus?... LOL.. good points i'm not disagreeing with anybody.. There's no point...

sari

[Woolburr]

Nails on chalkboard...a very fair comparison....I just use my Sigma for macro stuff...and only on MF....I can't deal with the sound of it.

[ejwebb]

Nails on chalkboard...a very fair comparison....I just use my Sigma for macro stuff...and only on MF....I can't deal with the sound of it.

My Canon 28 2.8 is pretty buzzy as well...

[Lightstream]

very true.. and completely fair.. ;) .. Kind of funny don't ya think. How different folk's opinions can be in what is largely about numbers and putting different things together.. In a which lens thread I was reading one poster said to not go above 400ISO. the next reply down somebody said to use 3200... Now, describing the same situation with the same gear two photographers have the opposite opinion.. and they both get the job done and have something to show for it.. Kind of interesting..

Like Petey's penchant for L and Dave's pride in his old school MF glass... there's no real way to completely judge who's choices are better.. I suppose that's where the artist in us comes out. I find nothing wrong with my Tammy I enjoy it completely and i'm thrilled with the photos from it. Other's think that it's under par and that there are a lot better options out there that make the Tammy not worth considering..

But, at the end of the day we all come home with our photos have you noticed how if you have a bad shot with an L it's completely the users fault but if you have a good shot with a third party than the photographer gets all kinds of accolades. 'Photographer triumphs over cheap glass'...

sari

Or "if you use L glass it's all the glass's work if you get a good shot" (despite the WAY overused line "it's the photographer not the glass" apparently that does not apply the other way around) view held by some.

But either way it does not bother me, and should not bother you. My line "Happy is the one who is content" would apply to your situation too, if you are content/happy with your Tamron, who am I to tell you otherwise? :)

A lot of folks go ballistic when I say 3rd party is a compromise (agreed with Wool on this). Nevertheless I own a Sigma 70-200/2.8. Put it this way.. there are compromises that we are happy with.. I loved the low price on that one :)

[saravrose]

Nails on chalkboard...a very fair comparison....I just use my Sigma for macro stuff...and only on MF....I can't deal with the sound of it.

make the back of your teeth hurt huh?... ;) .. I feel you there.. I have just about no experience with sigma noise... the Tammy noise isn't bad though.. almost sounds like productive gear doing it's thing... :D .. but, I have a high threshold before my annoyed button get's pushed.. (kids)..

sari

[Woolburr]

The first time I heard a Sigma focusing, I wanted to grab it and throw it against a concrete wall. "Must...stop....evil...noise..............." Everyone has something that sets them off...for me...it is the Sigma trying to focus. It literally makes my skin crawl to hear it. Way worse than anything that anyone has ever done with a blackboard.

[saravrose]

The first time I heard a Sigma focusing, I wanted to grab it and throw it against a concrete wall. "Must...stop....evil...noise..............." Everyone has something that sets them off...for me...it is the Sigma trying to focus. It literally makes my skin crawl to hear it. Way worse than anything that anyone has ever done with a blackboard.

oh that needs to be in your sig line.. too funny... strangely enough I don't have anything that sets me off.. Well somebody trying to say my name and butchering it get's a bit annoying but mostly I just tell them they can't say it so call me Sari.. and I do get slightly annoyed at my cousin's new hobby of digging into my camera bag just to see if she likes my kit... should never have encouraged her to buy that camera... :evil: :evil: ..

[ejwebb]

Or "if you use L glass it's all the glass's work if you get a good shot" (despite the WAY overused line "it's the photographer not the glass" apparently that does not apply the other way around) view held by some.

But either way it does not bother me, and should not bother you. My line "Happy is the one who is content" would apply to your situation too, if you are content/happy with your Tamron, who am I to tell you otherwise? :)

A lot of folks go ballistic when I say 3rd party is a compromise (agreed with Wool on this). Nevertheless I own a Sigma 70-200/2.8. Put it this way.. there are compromises that we are happy with.. I loved the low price on that one :)

I agree third-party is a compromise... like all things in life:D. That is why I value everyone's opinion and forums like this that allow information to be shared. Even though there is a lot of crap included about all lenses, if you pay attention you can get the usefule info you need to make an informed decision.

[ejwebb]

oh that needs to be in your sig line.. too funny... strangely enough I don't have anything that sets me off.. Well somebody trying to say my name and butchering it get's a bit annoying but mostly I just tell them they can't say it so call me Sari.. and I do get slightly annoyed at my cousin's new hobby of digging into my camera bag just to see if she likes my kit... should never have encouraged her to buy that camera... :evil: :evil: ..

Do I annoy you calling you SaraV or Rose or Sara?? Must have thick skin around here as you are likely to be called anything but your name! :D Not sure what youre real name is anyway... and how DO you pronounce Sari?

[puddlepirate44]

My Canon 28 2.8 is pretty buzzy as well...

Want buzzy? Try the 35 f/2.0. I call it the "Buzzsaw".

[saravrose]

Do I annoy you calling you SaraV or Rose or Sara?? Must have thick skin around here as you are likely to be called anything but your name! :D Not sure what youre real name is anyway... and how DO you pronounce Sari?

SaraV is fine.. my mother used to call me that, Sari is exactly like sorry just swap the O with an A.. my full name is Sara-vorheese a confusing handle passed down through a few generations.. the correct way to pronounce it though is a bit harder and I believe impossible to spell so you'll understand (i've tried).. But, every once in a while I get folks who think it's really cool or exotic so they try to say it and end up annoying me more than if they'd just except the nickname that is my way of being agreeable.. But with the exception of work i've gone by Sari since I was in first grade i'm used to it...

sari

[puddlepirate44]

SaraV is fine.. my mother used to call me that, Sari is exactly like sorry just swap the O with an A.. my full name is Sara-vorheese a confusing handle passed down through a few generations.. the correct way to pronounce it though is a bit harder and I believe impossible to spell so you'll understand (i've tried).. But, every once in a while I get folks who think it's really cool or exotic so they try to say it and end up annoying me more than if they'd just except the nickname that is my way of being agreeable.. But with the exception of work i've gone by Sari since I was in first grade i'm used to it...

sari

Sooo, what you're really saying is that calling you "Frank" is out. Right?

[Lightstream]

I agree third-party is a compromise... like all things in life:D. That is why I value everyone's opinion and forums like this that allow information to be shared. Even though there is a lot of crap included about all lenses, if you pay attention you can get the usefule info you need to make an informed decision.

Yup...and btw, I was poking fun at you over selling the 24-105 for the 3rd-party comment. Really at heart I think everybody needs to find what works for them :) my solutions don't necessarily work for everybody - my preference for f/4 zooms may be way too slow for someone else who needs the aperture for example.

Want buzzy? Try the 35 f/2.0. I call it the "Buzzsaw".

35/2 rules! :D

That lens really lets you know when it is working.. I almost bought one, in fact I think one of my earliest posts on POTN was whether I should bring one home. They said yes, but I couldn't find any in stock locally - or even at B&H! So.. I never did own one in the end.

[saravrose]

Sooo, what you're really saying is that calling you "Frank" is out. Right?

yep. pretty much.. Rosy or Rose is okay... I can't tell you how many times folks have thought my first name was Rose.. ;) ;) ..

[puddlepirate44]

35/2 rules! :D

That lens really lets you know when it is working.. I almost bought one, in fact I think one of my earliest posts on POTN was whether I should bring one home. They said yes, but I couldn't find any in stock locally - or even at B&H! So.. I never did own one in the end.

I really like my Buzzsaw. It's a good all around lens for me. On the 30D crop, it's like a 50mm. I used it while playing tourist in Seattle once, and got some great shots.

[saravrose]

I really like my Buzzsaw. It's a good all around lens for me. On the 30D crop, it's like a 50mm. I used it while playing tourist in Seattle once, and got some great shots.

buzzsaw?

[puddlepirate44]

buzzsaw?

Go down to post 1579... I call the 35 f/2 a Buzzsaw because it's so loud when it focuses...

[saravrose]

Go down to post 1579... I call the 35 f/2 a Buzzsaw because it's so loud when it focuses...

is it as bad as wool's simga's? and is it nice?..

[Woolburr]

Nifty is noisy....and 35 may be a buzzsaw...but they still are not as annoying as the Sigma sound...there is just something about the pitch and volume of those things...........makes you want to poke your eyes out.

[saravrose]

Nifty is noisy....and 35 may be a buzzsaw...but they still are not as annoying as the Sigma sound...there is just something about the pitch and volume of those things...........makes you want to poke your eyes out.

LOL.. wool i'm gonna go try a sigma just to see how bad they are... :lol: :lol: .. Poor guy I have you on a tear...

[puddlepirate44]

is it as bad as wool's simga's? and is it nice?..

I like it. At f/2, it's pretty quick, and it has good IQ. I'm no pro or anything, but I like it for walking around, say, Pikes Place, or places like that where I don't want some honkin' lens getting in the way or breaking my neck. On your XT it will crop out close to a 50mm which is good for portraits. I've done some landscape with it, but it's not that wide. Sure, there's other lenses out there that will do better, but it was inexpensive, and the size makes it handy. IMHO. I'll try to see if I can scare up some shots that I took with it, if you want.

[Woolburr]

LOL.. wool i'm gonna go try a sigma just to see how bad they are... :lol: :lol: .. Poor guy I have you on a tear...

ROFL....I'm just trying to up my post count....;)

[saravrose]

I like it. At f/2, it's pretty quick, and it has good IQ. I'm no pro or anything, but I like it for walking around, say, Pikes Place, or places like that where I don't want some honkin' lens getting in the way or breaking my neck. On your XT it will crop out close to a 50mm which is good for portraits. I've done some landscape with it, but it's not that wide. Sure, there's other lenses out there that will do better, but it was inexpensive, and the size makes it handy. IMHO. I'll try to see if I can scare up some shots that I took with it, if you want.

yes please... and I know exactly what you're talking about Pike's is a tight fit on slow days but trying to compose anything in there you need really short for any success...

[puddlepirate44]

yes please... and I know exactly what you're talking about Pike's is a tight fit on slow days but trying to compose anything in there you need really short for any success...

OK, I'll track some down... it'll be a bit, hold on... :)

[Woolburr]

What should we hold on to?

[puddlepirate44]

What should we hold on to?

Your coffee cup? That's what I've a death grip on...

[Woolburr]

That wouldn't do me much good...don't even own any coffee cups.

[wu_wei0]

ROFL....I'm just trying to up my post count....;)
To think, we turned 1000 together - now I shall never catch up

[puddlepirate44]

OK, here's what you get when I hurry... :rolleyes:

The first two were of Yaquina Head Lighthouse. Obviously it was foggy, so it might not be the best pic's to show the IQ of a lens:

http://static.flickr.com/79/311225774_56bf7dfd19.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/99/311225991_c536bae50c.jpg

This one was taken in the wee hours of the morning during a pre-lift off Balloon show:

http://static.flickr.com/112/311226125_10f42c319b.jpg

[puddlepirate44]

I'm sure I've got some others... somewhere. My wife's the organized one. I just download shots onto Aperture, and from there they kinda go into a black hole.... :shock:

[saravrose]

I'm sure I've got some others... somewhere. My wife's the organized one. I just download shots onto Aperture, and from there they kinda go into a black hole.... :shock:

LOL.. you should see my hard drive.. I'd make you look organized..excellent photos by the way.. how much does this lens run?

[Woolburr]

To think, we turned 1000 together - now I shall never catch up

Just wait until the bricks arrive...you will catch up!

[puddlepirate44]

LOL.. you should see my hard drive.. I'd make you look organized..excellent photos by the way.. how much does this lens run?

They run around $200-$250, I think. Amazon's got one for $233, or something like that.

[wu_wei0]

Just wait until the bricks arrive...you will catch up!
:D ;)

[Woolburr]

:D ;)

Snowday or are you at work?

[Belmondo]

Snowday or are you at work?Very chilly here, but not much chance of snow. I think it's only going to get up to 73F or so.

[Woolburr]

70 here too....but just over the mountain in TN it is in the mid-40's....they say we have changes afoot as well. Yuck.

[puddlepirate44]

Very chilly here, but not much chance of snow. I think it's only going to get up to 73F or so.

Remember, Belmondo, layers of clothing help fight off that early morning chill. :)

[puddlepirate44]

Mr. Burr, I noticed that one of your "Crayons" is a Canon DO IS lens... is that the 70-300?

[Woolburr]

It is indeed the 70-300 DO IS...Nice little travel lens.

[saravrose]

I'm thrilled we are warming up.. it's 13 degrees outside.. Wool I think you should go fall asleep outside and get a sunburn.. :evil: .. j/k.. i'm jealous... ;)

sari

[Woolburr]

I'm thrilled we are warming up.. it's 13 degrees outside.. Wool I think you should go fall asleep outside and get a sunburn.. :evil: .. j/k.. i'm jealous... ;)

sari

Don't be jealous....we have 60mph wind gusts...the temperature has dropped to 64 and is falling like a rock. Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh.

[wu_wei0]

Snowday or are you at work?
I'm at work. :(:evil: :lol: It'll be an all day affair.
There wasn't enough jingling going on last night to seduce the great snow fairy.

23, snow has stopped, looks like a high of 36 today. I will miss my snow shots.

[Woolburr]

Here is another ice shot for you to ponder. "Dragon's Breath"
http://www.pbase.com/woolburr/image/71000208.jpg

Can you find the dragon?

[Woolburr]

I'm at work. :(:evil: :lol: It'll be an all day affair.
There wasn't enough jingling going on last night to seduce the great snow fairy.

23, snow has stopped, looks like a high of 36 today. I will miss my snow shots.

Sorry....I even tried a few Gregorian chants to see if that would help!

[ejwebb]

33F here and windy - "feels like" 20F according to weather.com - it was almost 50f when i left for work this morning... No significant precipitation expected, though - even though it is very cloudy...

[wu_wei0]

Here is another ice shot for you to ponder.
http://www.pbase.com/woolburr/image/71000208.jpg
Oh my! This one really brings a smile to my face and a nice warm and exciting feeling. So far, my favorite, although Shanghai Momma is still running second. Well done reds and oranges are always faves.

Thanks for the chants and jingling. I appreciate the effort.

[Woolburr]

We aim to please around here. Everyone needs a snow day on occasion. We do struggle a bit trying to attain one for our Hawaiian members.:lol:

[Belmondo]

We aim to please around here. Everyone needs a snow day on occasion. We do struggle a bit trying to attain one for our Hawaiian members.:lol:

Snow or not, I cling firmly to my vow of only wearing shorts for the rest of my life. The two blue sticks holding me off the ground were a little hard to explain up in the Bay Area earlier this week, however.

[saravrose]

Snow or not, I cling firmly to my vow of only wearing shorts for the rest of my life. The two blue sticks holding me off the ground were a little hard to explain up in the Bay Area earlier this week, however.

LOL.. I don't even own a pair of shorts.... :rolleyes: but, if you were to come up here you would be bustled in Carhartts and snow suits within a day..

[Woolburr]

LOL.. I don't even own a pair of shorts.... :rolleyes: but, if you were to come up here you would be bustled in Carhartts and snow suits within a day..

You must have very brief summers there....even our crazy Canadian neighbors have shorts for the momentary summer season they experience.;) I bet Peter owns a pair or two.

[Woolburr]

Snow or not, I cling firmly to my vow of only wearing shorts for the rest of my life. The two blue sticks holding me off the ground were a little hard to explain up in the Bay Area earlier this week, however.

I understand that Aruba is very conducive to wearing shorts year round...I think it might be worth a try.

[Permagrin]

What sets me off is when people eat those chewy red rasp. candies...for some reason the "chewing" sets my teeth on edge. (I'm not kidding here)...my jaws tighten and hurt and I feel like someone is plugging my ears...(for a short time I had a "friend" who bought them whenever we were together...)

f the day we all come home with our photos have you noticed how if you have a bad shot with an L it's completely the users fault but if you have a good shot with a third party than the photographer gets all kinds of accolades. 'Photographer triumphs over cheap glass'...
sari

This is a very good point....had to laugh too because it's TRUE, people do respond this way. And for the record, I have a Tamron 90mm that I wouldn't part with any faster than I'd part with my 24-105L. I LOVE that lens.

35/2 rules! :D

That lens really lets you know when it is working.. I almost bought one, in fact I think one of my earliest posts on POTN was whether I should bring one home. They said yes, but I couldn't find any in stock locally - or even at B&H! So.. I never did own one in the end.

The 35F2 is a fast sharp lens...and the absolute loudest one I've personally ever heard. Buzzsaw doesn't even begin to explain it. Puddle dear, you should post some of your shots from Silver Falls. You used it then and the shots came out quite lovely.

is it as bad as wool's simga's? and is it nice?..

It has very good IQ but it's just so loud. But it's sharper than the 50 1.4 to the edges. IMO anyway.

Oh, and good semi-morning all!

[Woolburr]

Hey Permie...happy almost morning. :lol:

[Permagrin]

Man Wook, I had such a bad case of insomnia last night...when I clicked on I just KNEW you'd be awake so I could chat (Lightstream was at work so he could chat irregularly to fill in gaps too). But lo and behold, you were practicing being the 35F2....and I was ALL ALONE.....

[ejwebb]

Mornin'...ahhh afternoon...

What sets me off is when people eat those chewy red rasp. candies...for some reason the "chewing" sets my teeth on edge. (I'm not kidding here)...my jaws tighten and hurt and I feel like someone is plugging my ears...

I always thought that was some kind of "sour" response - happens to me sometimes, too but not from the "sound" more the perceived "flavor"...hmmm...

This is a very good point....had to laugh too because it's TRUE, people do respond this way. And for the record, I have a Tamron 90mm that I wouldn't part with any faster than I'd part with my 24-105L. I LOVE that lens.

I would feel much the same way about mine if I had a 5D!!:cool:

[Permagrin]

Mornin'...ahhh afternoon...



I always thought that was some kind of "sour" response - happens to me sometimes, too but not from the "sound" more the perceived "flavor"...hmmm...



I would feel much the same way about mine if I had a 5D!!:cool:

Webby, I know I mentioned this before, but your avatar is frightening...what the heck is it?

And you're probably right about the "sour response" thing....I don't eat sour at all myself if I can help it...just thinking about those red things actually is enough to set my jaws on edge!

[Woolburr]

Man Wook, I had such a bad case of insomnia last night...when I clicked on I just KNEW you'd be awake so I could chat (Lightstream was at work so he could chat irregularly to fill in gaps too). But lo and behold, you were practicing being the 35F2....and I was ALL ALONE.....

Sorry about that...I seem to be all messed up lately...need to get my schedule fixed.

[Permagrin]

Sorry about that...I seem to be all messed up lately...need to get my schedule fixed.

I take it that means you're sleeping well?

[Woolburr]

No...just means that I am sleeping occasionally....but I have to admit I do like my Tempur-pedic.

[saravrose]

No...just means that I am sleeping occasionally....but I have to admit I do like my Tempur-pedic.

occasionally. good word and about accurate for me too.. dang meds Sometimes I wonder what it's like to actually go to bed and sleep through a whole night and not in four hour incriments or one day a week for ten hours?..

[Permagrin]

No...just means that I am sleeping occasionally....but I have to admit I do like my Tempur-pedic.

Yeah, I like mine too...sometimes even the best mattress cannot help a mind diseased...:lol:

Is the weather pretty bad there? All the news is talking about is the horrible storm...

[Permagrin]

occasionally. good word and about accurate for me too.. dang meds Sometimes I wonder what it's like to actually go to bed and sleep through a whole night and not in four hour incriments or one day a week for ten hours?..

Do your meds prevent your sleep Sari?

[Woolburr]

we just have high winds and falling temperatures...no sign of rain or snow though. Wind gusting up to 60mph...was 70 at 11am and has now dropped to 53

[Permagrin]

we just have high winds and falling temperatures...no sign of rain or snow though. Wind gusting up to 60mph...was 70 at 11am and has now dropped to 53

wow...with all that wind, I'm surprised you have power...

[Woolburr]

I wonder if Claire fell asleep on the train this morning and ended up in Norway? Haven't seen any posts from her today....kind of unusual.

[Permagrin]

I wonder if Claire fell asleep on the train this morning and ended up in Norway? Haven't seen any posts from her today....kind of unusual.

:lol: :lol: :lol: True....or on the bus. And where's Wu? She won/tied on the craic post

[Woolburr]

wow...with all that wind, I'm surprised you have power...

Interestingly enough....we have many buried utilities here. I also have a generator if the power does go out. :D

[ejwebb]

Webby, I know I mentioned this before, but your avatar is frightening...what the heck is it?

I don't know - some kid in a Halloween mask a few years ago. I took the shot 'cause I thought it was pretty unusual. I was rummaging through the archives the other night and came accross it. I'm glad you like it :lol: :lol:

[wu_wei0]

:lol: :lol: :lol: True....or on the bus. And where's Wu? She won/tied on the craic post
I am in SWARM right now- hordes of students coming to pre-enroll after most of the classes are already full. :( How about Webby doing the craic-ing? He's so much better at it than I am!

[wu_wei0]

I don't know - some kid in a Halloween mask a few years ago. I took the shot 'cause I thought it was pretty unusual. I was rummaging through the archives the other night and came accross it. I'm glad you like it :lol: :lol:
It reminds me of cannibal cows! they have long faces like that

[Permagrin]

I am in SWARM right now- hordes of students coming to pre-enroll after most of the classes are already full. :( How about Webby doing the craic-ing? He's so much better at it than I am!

Sure...that's up to you two...this non-contest was really hard. I liked SO many of the entries...it almost ended up a three way tie but Olli said his was not an entry.

[Woolburr]

OK...share a picture, share a thought, share your new gear or your old...seek advice or feel free to offer some...not a competition...not a test...you don't need an L....but don't be a pest....check you attitude and ego at the door!:p If your here for fun...come on in....if you're here to stir up some **** go darken another door. Can't get much simpler than that.;)

http://www.pbase.com/woolburr/image/48536179.jpg

I changed the sign on the front door to expand the audience.

[wu_wei0]

Like it, Wool. wonder what kind of characters it will attract

[puddlepirate44]

...Puddle dear, you should post some of your shots from Silver Falls. You used it then and the shots came out quite lovely....

*rustles through LaCie to find shots....* *mumbles curses under breath*

[Permagrin]

WOOL! That is TOO funny! I love signs...though Dan's the one that really takes photos of them...

[Woolburr]

"Red-Ringed Tupperware Party with Tin Foil Hats"....The fun quotient is falling forum wide....some folks are getting way too serious...Hey Dan...I think that picture for the critique section sounds more and more like a must do!

Even I am starting to sound serious. http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2339027&postcount=9

[Permagrin]

"Red-Ringed Tupperware Party with Tin Foil Hats"....The fun quotient is falling forum wide....some folks are getting way too serious...Hey Dan...I think that picture for the critique section sounds more and more like a must do!

Even I am starting to sound serious. http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2339027&postcount=9

Funny new Sig....didn't notice you'd actually done it! :lol:

[puddlepirate44]

As requested, more shots with the 35 f/2. These were taken at the Silver Falls State Park:

http://static.flickr.com/107/311370218_08b962f448.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/110/311370590_99cc40f4f3.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/112/311369898_7a58bb3b77.jpg

[ejwebb]

As requested, more shots with the 35 f/2. These were taken at the Silver Falls State Park:



"Nice Shots!" I thought about this lens until my local used equipment dealer came up with a 28 f2.8 for $75 and some unused odds and ends. It's a nice, sharp lens but AF is a little loud and slow - wider but slower than the 35 but a good value purchase for a "normal" view on the world...

[Woolburr]

For $75 I would think you could do loud and slow for sharp images.