Red-Ringed Tupperware Party with (ineffective) Tin Foil Hats

[Lightstream]

I'm baaaaaaack.. :)

[Claire]

NO SLEEPING ON THE TRAIN, CLAIRE! Good heavens. Who know where you'll wind up. Sweden?

He he End station is Gothenburg, but if I don't get off I have no clue where the train might go afterwards. Maybe I'd end up in Copenhagen!

[Lightstream]

Then you can visit Tommy :)

[puddlepirate44]

He he End station is Gothenburg, but if I don't get off I have no clue where the train might go afterwards. Maybe I'd end up in Copenhagen!

Well, I guess that's be OK. Tommy would come and get you then you could go to that castle and see the Belmondad statue.

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2647334&postcount=1

[Lightstream]

I've got a few good shots from today... now.. first up, some for Sari:

Happily setting off on safari.....
http://pix.lightrefineries.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2347&g2_serialNumber=2

Very well equipped..
http://pix.lightrefineries.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2350&g2_serialNumber=2

Small problems... (yes that is a 1-4 courtesy of yours truly)
http://pix.lightrefineries.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2356&g2_serialNumber=2

So what's preventing it from getting fixed? If you look in the lower left hand corner you'll see.. a TAIL.

Tail of WHAT?
http://pix.lightrefineries.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2359&g2_serialNumber=2

Ohh, errm.
http://pix.lightrefineries.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2353&g2_serialNumber=2

Hey uhh, did anybody bring the lion bait? ;)



This was actually a very well put together exhibit at the Werribee Open Range Zoo where I was shooting during the afternoon.. very 'safari' feel and reminded me of the little expedition to Africa. I took the 100-400 off to shoot all of these with the standard zoom (17-85). That also explains the glass walls - yes, the front of the jeep is built into the glass. Of course we were in no danger at all. But glass or not, I have never stood a foot from a very sleepy lioness.. ever.

[puddlepirate44]

That's a pretty cool exhibit, LS. Cool how they put the jeep in the middle to give the impression of the safari.

And, yes, I agree with you. I wouldn't want to get too close to the lioness either. :shock:

[Lightstream]

I shot a chook* specially for Wool, who asked to see the Duck from my brand new 30D which went on this expedition.

* Aussie for chicken

http://pix.lightrefineries.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2362&g2_serialNumber=2

Then I came across a gigantic Duck Conference, and therefore my 30D has been appropriately blessed because I took 4 frames and these are the best two:


Attendees gathering round:
http://pix.lightrefineries.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2365&g2_serialNumber=2

Discussion in full swing!
http://pix.lightrefineries.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2368&g2_serialNumber=2

[Woolburr]

Lions and tigers and beers oh my...

[theflyingkiwi]

LS you should have just kicked the cat out of the way. what harm could it do ya.:lol:

[Woolburr]

Yep....those are ducks...you are good to go.

[Lightstream]

Just getting caught up on this thread too:

Manfrotto 679B with a 3229RC2 head. I can't figure out why anyone wants a ball head on a monopod....I can tilt all I want with the pod...no need for anything more than a flip from landscape to portrait.

The choice of pod are probably the only things Wool and I agree on ;)

I am a 679B user as well, but no head. I have a Giottos MH625 quick release plate, which is just a plate - no head functions at all. This enables me to snap the 1-4 off the pod quickly. I tilt the pod too. For flipping between landscape and portrait, I just loosen the tripod collar, and turn the lens in the collar.

That's a pretty cool exhibit, LS. Cool how they put the jeep in the middle to give the impression of the safari.

And, yes, I agree with you. I wouldn't want to get too close to the lioness either. :shock:


Yup.. had a great day.. :) (rare, but they are wonderful when they happen :) )

I was standing less than a foot away from her, separated only by the glass.. you can even see where she's drooled on the glass!!

Had one guy comment that was the most awesomely huge zoom he'd ever seen.. he was sooooo taken with it. I'm used to the attention. I suppose that is how we react when we meet the 1200mm f/5.6.

They also run a bus tour, although it was tremendously hard to shoot through the windows since they were horribly coated with dust. Actually, everything is coated in dust. I got the authentic "Africa" experience since AU is in the midst of a drought, and the fine particulate sand was blowing everywhere. Incidentally, for those not acquainted with the country, MOST of AU is the Great Australian Desert. So yes.. it is quite easy to find some fairly hard-core desert around these parts complete with dust and all.

BIG surprise: Negligible impact of dust.. one or two spots more after racking the zoom backwards and forwards the whole darn afternoon. So I think after you 'season' the 1-4, the dust problem goes away.

I still felt a lot more comfortable with my B+W filter on the front, though. Many of the shots were fired straight thru dust clouds.. I lost a couple thanks to the dust, it was that bad. But it was still fun!

They are running the Open Top Vehicle tour - which has no windows. I think I will be back one of these days to take that tour!

[saravrose]

LS that is cool!! I don't imagine that i'll be quite soo close to the lions in Africa..or that i'll have glass between me and them..

[puddlepirate44]

Well, folks, I'm off to bed. Sorry to take off just as you show up, LS and Mark. Perhaps more time together tomorrow!

Cheerio, All!

[saravrose]

goodnight Puddle see ya later..

[Lightstream]

Lions and tigers and beers oh my...

Beer yes! Man I'm dehydrated! :mrgreen:

LS you should have just kicked the cat out of the way. what harm could it do ya.:lol:

Better hope Sari "Lion Bait" Rose doesn't take your advice if she should encounter the cat on safari.. ;)

Yep....those are ducks...you are good to go.

Was quite surprised to see so many ducks, and so far from water..


Couple of other lessons I learned today - if you are shooting wildlife, even in a zoo, a crop camera is very useful.. Sari - I recommend you keep your XT, it will be VERY useful on that mission. Myself, I would have paired a 5D/24-105 and 30D/1-4.

Here's a plot of the focal lengths I used today:

http://pix.lightrefineries.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2370&g2_serialNumber=1

All focal lengths are after crop factor has been applied.. so my 100-400 registers as a 160-640. (shorter FLs are my 17-85 in action)

Doubt I could be happy with a dedicated 400mm. I was all over the place, with lots of shots at 300mm, 640mm, and 160mm.

[saravrose]

I absolutely plan on keeping the XT and maybe picking up a 20 or 30D for the trip.. I think the crop will work for me.. and I can always go FF when I get back..

sari

[Lightstream]

LS that is cool!! I don't imagine that i'll be quite soo close to the lions in Africa..or that i'll have glass between me and them..

Yeah.. just thought I'd whet your appetite for adventure.. myself I'm quite happy to do it all for the price of a $15 zoo admission ticket. :D

When I do go back for the open vehicle tour there won't be any glass between me and them either.. just distance! You probably don't want to be too close to the hungry beasts.......

Well, folks, I'm off to bed. Sorry to take off just as you show up, LS and Mark. Perhaps more time together tomorrow!

Cheerio, All!

No worries.. point PG to the thread when she wakes up.. I'll have lots more shots on the way :) used 162 frames today, MOST of them are keepers.. I am so surprised.. maybe I am a little bit more proficient with the hardware than I thought I was..

I'm going thru them right now..

I absolutely plan on keeping the XT and maybe picking up a 20 or 30D for the trip.. I think the crop will work for me.. and I can always go FF when I get back..

sari


Definitely. FF is sweet but having a crop camera is tremendously useful for long reach tele work. There's a reason why I invested in a 30D again.. plus the 8MP gives me the freedom to crop, frame, and print big. I can just imagine that some of these would look wonderful on the walls.. and draw the comments from the visitors "You been going on safari?" "Yeah, thirty minutes from the big city on M1" :D

[Lightstream]

OK... here come them lions!

Sulky, sleepy and not interested in the camera:
http://pix.lightrefineries.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2382&g2_serialNumber=2

http://pix.lightrefineries.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2373&g2_serialNumber=2

http://pix.lightrefineries.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2376&g2_serialNumber=2

http://pix.lightrefineries.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2379&g2_serialNumber=2

[Claire]

There's no decent zoo in Gothenburg.:( Have to take train to Borås if I want a zoo experience. Maybe later in spring/summer.

I just got to my flat to leave a bag of clothes. Really don't want to head for work now. At least my day is shorter; 8:30-14:00. Then off to my 4hrs studio lighting course. :D

[Lightstream]

Enjoy your course.. :)

[theflyingkiwi]

yea enjoy, you will be able to teach us all something when ya get back ;)

[tommykjensen]

I'm watching the making of parts of Beyond Borders from my netflix and the area that they filmed in was Namibia... Wow!! Still doesn't feel quite real that i'm going to go there..

sari

How funny. Danish television show the movie Beyond Borders tonight :lol: Is it a good movie?

[Claire]

yea enjoy, you will be able to teach us all something when ya get back ;)

I doubt I'll be able to teach anyone anything! But I do hope to have some decent shots to post. :)

[Jon]

Ah.... guess that's why you're a mod, and I'm just one of the serfs. The tigers are a good idea, and the PETA group is almost too scary for words.
I wouldn't rely on PETA (http://www.roanoke-chowannewsherald.com/articles/2005/06/18/news/news1.txt). WWF or Environmental Defense, maybe.

[puddlepirate44]

I wouldn't rely on PETA (http://www.roanoke-chowannewsherald.com/articles/2005/06/18/news/news1.txt). WWF or Environmental Defense, maybe.

:shock: :evil: People like that tick me off.....

[Woolburr]

These two clowns have managed to do what rational people have tried to do for ages...show what a bunch of whack jobs PETA types really are. Heaven only knows what their true agenda is....but it sure isn't animal welfare.

[puddlepirate44]

These two clowns have managed to do what rational people have tried to do for ages...show what a bunch of whack jobs PETA types really are. Heaven only knows what their true agenda is....but it sure isn't animal welfare.

Well, that about sums it up. Right up there with those that "spike" trees so that they cannot be cut down, and cause damage to the loggers who attempt to do so.

[Woolburr]

Yes...it doesn't matter who gets hurt as long as I get the attention.
I could smack a few heads off this wall...that would be good attention.
http://www.pbase.com/woolburr/image/74159004.jpg
Canon EOS 1D Mark II N ,Canon EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM
1/400s f/4.0 at 105.0mm iso100

[puddlepirate44]

That's a really cool shot, Dan. I like the mix of colors and textures. Good shootin', pard.

[Woolburr]

Thanks...more fun from yesterday....bricks for Wu.

[puddlepirate44]

Thanks...more fun from yesterday....bricks for Wu.

Well, then, I'm sure she'll enjoy them....

[saravrose]

Well my rainy day yesterday looks like a few inches of snow got dropped last night with more coming down... :( :( :( .. weeks of clear weather and pretty skies!! and the second I get a new lens and really, really want to go outside and shoot.. Just not fair. With any luck it won't last all day..

sari

[puddlepirate44]

That happens to us, too. We get a three day weekend, or plan something fun, then the wx literally rains on our parade. Or I've got unexpected work, or something.

Sorry, Sari. (well, typing that was kinda fun... ;) ) Hopefully it'll clear up soon for you.

[Woolburr]

Fresh snow will give your shots that neat and clean appearance!

[saravrose]

That happens to us, too. We get a three day weekend, or plan something fun, then the wx literally rains on our parade. Or I've got unexpected work, or something.

Sorry, Sari. (well, typing that was kinda fun... ;) ) Hopefully it'll clear up soon for you.

it's not even wimpy snow. the kind that you just wander around in anyway.. Nope. this is angry stormy snow with all the cold that goes with it. Just not fair!! :evil:

[Woolburr]

That sucks....sorry...maybe it will clear off this afternoon and you will get some nice sun to go play in.

[saravrose]

maybe. it didnt clear yesterday though.. if anything it got worse. I was banking on it clearing today.. figured that would be fair.. I was a good sport about not being able to shoot yesterday.. two days in a row on my days off is just obnoxious and not fair!!

[puddlepirate44]

it's not even wimpy snow. the kind that you just wander around in anyway.. Nope. this is angry stormy snow with all the cold that goes with it. Just not fair!! :evil:

I can just envision this puppy lens named Chuck, sitting by the door, wanting to go out and play. Poor Chuck looking over his shoulder, "Mommy... I wanna go play"

[Woolburr]

Your forecast doesn't look too promising...high of 34...continued snow and clouds. Partial clearing tomorrow.

[saravrose]

did you look up my weather for me?.. thanks. yeah.. I'm stuck inside.

[Woolburr]

Looked at 3 different sites...they all are painting a rather bleak picture for today...90-95% chance of snow or rain for the remainder of the day. Google is wonderful, even when the weather isn't!

[saravrose]

Looked at 3 different sites...they all are painting a rather bleak picture for today. Google is wonderful!

yep.. I was going to ignore the weather report.. I've lived up here long enough to tell when the storms aren't going to stop. I met get very brave and if there's even a little texture I might just go shoot anyway.. isn't that what hoods are for?..

sari

[puddlepirate44]

Your forecast doesn't look too promising...high of 34...continued snow and clouds. Partial clearing tomorrow.

I looked it up, too. But mine said,

Winds of 200 knots expected with acidic sulphur based rains and flame bursts of methane throughout the 127 hour day. Solar flares likely to disrupt all communications. Massive plate tectonic shifts might be seen in the NW quadrant of the planet, as the molten magma resurfaces again for the third day straight.

Wait, that might be wrong. Yep, that's for Zolkar-6 in the Blasington System. I misspelled my Google search. Sorry.

[Woolburr]

Gee Dan...perhaps Firefox with the built-in spell check is in your future? hehehe

Use that hood Sari....what the heck...there must be something out there to see and shoot. Besides...you never know if you might encounter crappy lighting in Africa...so a bit of practice under less than perfect conditions might just help...I do doubt you will see a whole lot of snow in the jungle....but you never can tell...

[saravrose]

hehe.. I'm concerned about light.. Might give it a couple more hours and atleast go get my photo day shot. and see if I can shoot anything else..

[wu_wei0]

Thanks...more fun from yesterday....bricks for Wu.

That is an awesome shot, Wool! The texture is amazing. almost where I can reach out and explore the variations. Love the color too.

Thanks, Dan :D Two smiles in one day! you are on quite a roll.

[puddlepirate44]

Gee Dan...perhaps Firefox with the built-in spell check is in your future? hehehe

I'll try it again:

Glaciers of frozen nitrogen will continue to grind closer to the city center and volcanic activity is due to begin in the Great Lead Plains when the heated mercury of the planet's core is expected to erupt. Scattered showers of basalt and feldspar will be occur just before the daily meteorite impacts at noon. Some school closures are to be expected. Please stay tuned.

No, dangit, that's not right either...

[Belmondo]

Just spent 7 hours with Microsoft Support, both on the phone and live chat.

Bottom line: Vista works. It screwed up Outlook 2003, so I've been out of the email business since Thursday. It also screwed up Quicken, so I've been out of the business business since then as well.

For some reason, Vista won't let me upgrade to Office 2007. It doesn't recognize the previous installation of Office 2003 as a qualifying product for the upgrade.:confused:

The bottom line......Microsoft said, "Sorry." If we ever figure out what the problem is, AND if we consider it a significant enough of a problem to document the solution, we'll let you know. In the meantime, you're just SOL.

I should have listened to you all.

After all the time on the phone, I finally (sort of) figured out what happened to my Outlook and Quicken, and they're working again (turned off User Access Control), but I still can't get Office to upgrade, so I'll stick with 2003, return the software, and buy CF cards. (I have an authorization from Microsoft to return it even though it's opened.)

My mood definitely matches my avatar today. Maybe hugging my Mac will soothe me.

[puddlepirate44]

Just spent 7 hours with Microsoft Support, both on the phone and live chat.

Bottom line: Vista works. It screwed up Outlook 2003, so I've been out of the email business since Thursday. It also screwed up Quicken, so I've been out of the business business since then as well.

For some reason, Vista won't let me upgrade to Office 2007. It doesn't recognize the previous installation of Office 2003 as a qualifying product for the upgrade.:confused:

The bottom line......Microsoft said, "Sorry." If we ever figure out what the problem is, AND if we consider it a significant enough of a problem to document the solution, we'll let you know. In the meantime, you're just SOL.

I should have listened to you all.

After all the time on the phone, I finally (sort of) figured out what happened to my Outlook and Quicken, and they're working again (turned off User Access Control), but I still can't get Office to upgrade, so I'll stick with 2003, return the software, and buy CF cards. (I have an authorization from Microsoft to return it even though it's opened.)

My mood definitely matches my avatar today. Maybe hugging my Mac will soothe me.

Awwww, does Belmondad need a widdle wuv? Does he need a hug?

[puddlepirate44]

That is an awesome shot, Wool! The texture is amazing. almost where I can reach out and explore the variations. Love the color too.

Thanks, Dan :D Two smiles in one day! you are on quite a roll.

Mornin' Wu!

[Woolburr]

I was onboard with XP from the early stages of development. I went through all the beta versions and even as buggy as they were, didn't hear as much grief as I have heard about Vista as a finished product. Not a good omen in my book. This is smelling more and more like a repeat of ME. It really sucks that they can't figure out or even seem to care about figuring out how to solve your issues.

[wu_wei0]

Mooooooooornin' Puddle! How's your day?

[puddlepirate44]

Mooooooooornin' Puddle! How's your day?

Doin' good so far. Just found out that I'm clear to start on my taxes. Not that doing taxes is fun, but I sure do want to get that out of the way. Got a ton of little errands for the day, and I have little to no motivation to do any of it.

[Woolburr]

Howdy Wuudles! How's life under the rainbow?

[puddlepirate44]

I was onboard with XP from the early stages of development. I went through all the beta versions and even as buggy as they were, didn't hear as much grief as I have heard about Vista as a finished product. Not a good omen in my book. This is smelling more and more like a repeat of ME. It really sucks that they can't figure out or even seem to care about figuring out how to solve your issues.

I get this often at work. Some new, flash bang program that will solve all our ills comes down the pipe. "It's been tested and all the bugs have been removed". As soon as it's implemented, it creates more frustration and uses up more labor hours to utilize it. I think that there are VP's in corporate who sit around and think this stuff up to try and impress the CEO. The programs are a complete loss, but we must use them regardless. Grrr :evil:

[wu_wei0]

Doin' good so far. Just found out that I'm clear to start on my taxes. Not that doing taxes is fun, but I sure do want to get that out of the way. Got a ton of little errands for the day, and I have little to no motivation to do any of it.
At least it sounds to be off to a good start!!

Howdy Wuudles! How's life under the rainbow?
A little chilly. My office is about 60 degrees. Other than that, it is a smilie day. Still, hopin to be over the rainbow one day.

And you, Sultan?

[Woolburr]

About to swaddle myself in fresh robes and see if there is something begging to be immortalized by one of the Canons.;)

[gjl711]

We just this week got a note from out IT folks. They were adamant, no VISTA until it’s bugs were ironed out. I was talking to one of the IT guys and he said that they have been testing it for several weeks and found it too buggy for mass deployment. After hearing several other upgrade horror stories, I think I'll wait until I have to upgrade.

[Woolburr]

There are stories floating around on several other tech boards about it not even playing well with other MS products...talk about a slap in the face...pretty sad when you can't get your software to play with other versions of software that you developed and marketed.

[gjl711]

There are stories floating around on several other tech boards about it not even playing well with other MS products......
That’s the reason I was given. There were so many compatibility problems not only with third party software, but with MS software as well especially with older office products that integrating it into a large network is just too much work. For me, it doesn’t seem to do anything new or better. Just look prettier but then again, I haven’t played with it long. I’ll just stick with XP I think.

[Belmondo]

Suddenly XP is my friend. I'm still glad I did it (upgraded). I avoided doing any real work for almost two days. The irony is that I was able to fix my most immediate problems purely by dumb luck. I have Quicken back....that was crucial. I have Outlook 2003 back, and that's important too, but not critical. I have several other machines capable of handling my email.

The tech hinted at the fact that there were 'issues' with the activation codes on some of the Microsoft products since the release of Vista and Office 2007.

I'm sure the geniuses in Redmond are dealing with lots of problems right now.

[Woolburr]

I hope they manage to find some solutions in the near future. I like the idea of being able to fully address the ram on my system. That alone is reason to upgrade.

[CyberDyneSystems]

My stand on Vista is consistent with my position re: Microshaft since Win3.1

I will resist with all my will anything that I feel MS wants me to do. Flat across the board.

I will not use MS browser, I will not be pushed into there firewall, or auto updates, I will not allow "messenger" to run, I will disable "active x" which designed by MS and installed as part of the OS for the sole purpose of enabling spyware and trojans,. etc.

Thus, Vista will only be of interest to me when or if MS stops pushing it on me like a drug dealer.

[CyberDyneSystems]

I hope they manage to find some solutions in the near future. I like the idea of being able to fully address the ram on my system. That alone is reason to upgrade.

There's always XP 64 bit, but the drivers may remain an issue, again as part of MS' "push" towards Vista..

[Woolburr]

So Jake...tell us how you really feel.;)

[CyberDyneSystems]

Dude, that was sooo tiptoeing around softly.. ! :lol:

I am definitely one of those "MS is the route of ll evil" people, I'm just too attached to complaining about it to actually dump it and run Linux or Mac :lol:

[gjl711]

Time for Linux to make it's power play. I have Suse installed on my backup machine and it is one sweat OS. Find myself drifting back to the good ol’ terminal window. Now if they would only port back Rogue.

Zombie stand before ye, what shall we do.

Use Staff of magic missles.

[Woolburr]

Just give me an OS that lets my programs run. Firefox, Thunderbird, Powerdesk Pro, any of the photo editors....and Office 97...

[gjl711]

Now if FireFox would just fix their spell checker. It has to be the weakest algorithm I have ever seen.

[Claire]

I downloaded and installed Explorer 7 today. I already hate the layout
Oh, and I got back from my photo course. Yaaay. Fun! But taking studio shots with an experienced model (compared to my friends) meant that I really found out how SLOOOOOW the 300D actually is. Damn it focused, synced and wrote sloooooow.

[CyberDyneSystems]

Now if FireFox would just fix their spell checker. It has to be the weakest algorithm I have ever seen.

No ability to "learn" or to "change all" .. yuck.

[Woolburr]

Now if FireFox would just fix their spell checker. It has to be the weakest algorithm I have ever seen.

It is a step up from nothing...I just keep updating the dictionary on a daily basis.

[gjl711]

I downloaded and installed Explorer 7 today. I already hate the layout
Time to switch to one of the other browsers. I did install it into my aunties machine but it kept going nuts spawning itself hundreds of times. I convinced her that FireFox was better and she has also switched.

[Maureen Souza]

Good day all. We have a SICK little boy this week....doing the "Poop Chute Boogie" and running fevers up towards 104. I'll be back in amongst you all when he goes home tonight.

[gjl711]

No ability to "learn" or to "change all" .. yuck.

It is a step up from nothing...I just keep updating the dictionary on a daily basis.
Na, it learns just fine and adding won't help my problem. There are several words I just keep misspelling like “definitely” and when I look in the option list, it’s not even close in guessing the right. It always pops up defiantly but not definitely. Otherwise, it’s a great browser and I’m sure will get better with the next upgrade.

[Claire]

This is my first night sleeping in my new place. Hopefully the bed won't break down as we didn't tighten the screws properly...

[Skip Souza]

OK Jake so what should I do? My options for a new Computer for Maureen are:
1. Have Vista Home Premium installed by the builder
or
2. Get it with no OS and get a Full XP Professional from NewEgg and install it myself?

[Jon]

Won't they still install XP? If not, buy a second, or external HDD from NewEgg and get an OEM copy of XP Pro with it, maybe.

[Skip Souza]

I've been happy with XP Pro on mine, stable as an anvil.
Maureen's has been giving me fits. Still not sure if it is hardware or software but I suspect software. Ours are almost identical.
I have not contacted the builder personally yet for this computer but they only offer Vista on the web site.

[SuzyView]

This is my first night sleeping in my new place. Hopefully the bed won't break down as we didn't tighten the screws properly...

Sounds like a great adventure. Have fun! And really, the floor isn't all that bad in case the bed falls over. :)

[Claire]

Sounds like a great adventure. Have fun! And really, the floor isn't all that bad in case the bed falls over. :)

I'd rather have the bed fall apart for other reasons...;)

I'm trying to edit photos now from the class today. :)

[SuzyView]

Wishful thinking again, Claire? :) ;)

[Claire]

Wishful thinking again, Claire? :) ;)

Yes, on both accounts! lol Damn, I hate Adobe RGB mode...

[saravrose]

hi folks.. I had a break in weather!! So, went shooting and i'm downloading now.. this lens is going to take some time to get used to.

[puddlepirate44]

Claire: Great news on the first night! What fun!

Sari: Glad there was a break. Hope you and Chuck had a good afternoon together. I hear he's a nice guy. (are you gonna share some shots?)

[Lightstream]

Just spent 7 hours with Microsoft Support, both on the phone and live chat.

Bottom line: Vista works. It screwed up Outlook 2003, so I've been out of the email business since Thursday. It also screwed up Quicken, so I've been out of the business business since then as well.

For some reason, Vista won't let me upgrade to Office 2007. It doesn't recognize the previous installation of Office 2003 as a qualifying product for the upgrade.:confused:

The bottom line......Microsoft said, "Sorry." If we ever figure out what the problem is, AND if we consider it a significant enough of a problem to document the solution, we'll let you know. In the meantime, you're just SOL.

I should have listened to you all.

After all the time on the phone, I finally (sort of) figured out what happened to my Outlook and Quicken, and they're working again (turned off User Access Control), but I still can't get Office to upgrade, so I'll stick with 2003, return the software, and buy CF cards. (I have an authorization from Microsoft to return it even though it's opened.)

My mood definitely matches my avatar today. Maybe hugging my Mac will soothe me.

Sorry to hear that dude.....man if I were you, diehard "I-will-not-change-my-workflow-even-if-I-am-unfortunate-enough-to-be-wedded-to-Windows" ole me would be stomping into the nearest Apple store and yelling "GIVE IT TO ME"

"What do you want, sir?"

"ANYTHING MAC"

We just this week got a note from out IT folks. They were adamant, no VISTA until it’s bugs were ironed out. I was talking to one of the IT guys and he said that they have been testing it for several weeks and found it too buggy for mass deployment. After hearing several other upgrade horror stories, I think I'll wait until I have to upgrade.

I am one of those IT folks. I suddenly feel like the MIB.. Defending the Network from WhatEverTheHeckIsOutThere!

Just give me an OS that lets my programs run. Firefox, Thunderbird, Powerdesk Pro, any of the photo editors....and Office 97...

Add Garmin Mapsource, my legacy handcoded Win32 apps that I have neither time to port or rewrite, WinAMP (this one being particularly crucial), Eudora, and my multi-timezone clock. For everything else, I have a replacement either in open source or on a different platform. Unfortunately these few apps are the ones that I am both unable and unwilling to replace, and I'm not willing to run them in emulation - either we break clean or.. well.. wait. Till push comes to shove.

BTW, consider Openoffice (www.openoffice.org). MS crazy licensing over Office nailed me pretty bad, and the worst part, I wasn't allowed to return it because I'd opened the box. The problem is: the license was INSIDE the box.. so how would I know I had gotten the wrong license by mistake.. till I open it?


However, Tommy's recommendation of VMWare Server is very interesting.. that means I can run a UNIX/Linux box as my primary and virtualize XP or 2K (which is fine, and I have old licenses for the full version.. and I happen to really like 2K. I bought a few when they rushed to dump it in favor of the 'latest and greatest').

hi folks.. I had a break in weather!! So, went shooting and i'm downloading now.. this lens is going to take some time to get used to.

Congratulations! PICS!!!! :)

[gjl711]

I am one of those IT folks. I suddenly feel like the MIB.. Defending the Network from WhatEverTheHeckIsOutThere!God bless ya but please, can you use that little flashy thing and make me forget about 95 and ME?;)

[puddlepirate44]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

God bless ya but please, can you use that little flashy thing and make me forget about 95 and ME?;)

[Woolburr]

hi folks.. I had a break in weather!! So, went shooting and i'm downloading now.. this lens is going to take some time to get used to.

If Chuck falls out of your hands and lands in the dirt...does that make him ground chuck? Let's see those shots!:shock:

[Woolburr]

God bless ya but please, can you use that little flashy thing and make me forget about 95 and ME?;)

Where the hell is that little flashy thingie when you need it?:rolleyes: I am thinking XP Pro is staying put on this beast.

[gjl711]

If Chuck falls out of your hands and lands in the dirt...does that make him ground chuck? :shock:Oh man... Very very loud groan....;)

[Permagrin]

aaaargh!

I shot the 300 w/the TC...it didn't seem slow (I took it outside and it did hunt once but I hadn't focused on anything in particular when I pushed the focus so I wonder if that was why...).

I didn't buy it but I'm back to being confused. It responded really well to the indoor low light shots I took too...hmmm...maybe I'll post a couple (they are not interesting shots but you can tell me what you think)...

[gjl711]

Where the hell is that little flashy thingie when you need it?:rolleyes: I am thinking XP Pro is staying put on this beast.Same here. I have not rebuilt nor reloaded my XP in almost 2 years and outside of a little PM, it has been running error free. I have had hardware fail, and have even had a drive fail (thank god for RAID) but the SW is solid as a rock.

[SuzyView]

No upgrade here to VISTA. I can't be happier with XP. I only run the spyware and adware stuff and it always comes back okay. But I don't really test the computer to its limits. I am really just WP and PS on it.

[Lightstream]

God bless ya but please, can you use that little flashy thing and make me forget about 95 and ME?;)

Where the hell is that little flashy thingie when you need it?:rolleyes: I am thinking XP Pro is staying put on this beast.

*whips out Canon 580EX Speedlite, dials it up to 1:1 max power on manual and pops the 'test' button a few times*

(we need something portable.. monolights don't work)

OK folks.. you don't remember anything.. the spots in your eyes will go away next week. ;)

aaaargh!

I shot the 300 w/the TC...it didn't seem slow (I took it outside and it did hunt once but I hadn't focused on anything in particular when I pushed the focus so I wonder if that was why...).

I didn't buy it but I'm back to being confused. It responded really well to the indoor low light shots I took too...hmmm...maybe I'll post a couple (they are not interesting shots but you can tell me what you think)...


:mrgreen:

Hunting is a function of the camera not finding sufficient contrast in the subject to lock on..I can make ANYTHING hunt by pointing it at nothing but solid blue sky.. so.. don't worry about it. (if you're going to test gear, know how to do it properly)

Post some pics.. there is a reason why I'm recommending the 300 for folks like us who love IS.

Yesterday I realized how hard it is to handhold 640mm. Even with good technique you can clearly see the drift in the viewfinder - but at the same time if your shutter speed is high enough it won't affect the image. Turning IS on however, makes a HUGE difference, even the older 2-stop IS. But technique matters so much.. I had to force myself to use proper long lens technique instead of my 'anyhow works' 24-105 bright light technique ;)

It's not 'hard' per se but you do have to concentrate a little bit more than just wander around pointing and shooting.

[Permagrin]

okay here are 3 photos I took with it today...I've got to leave right now but I'll be back in a little while to check your comments (they are all with the 1.4tc) NO PP at all...shot in raw and did nothing to them

1/40 f5.6 420mm ISO 640
http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/128583329-L.jpg

1/2500 (same other exif)
http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/128583514-L.jpg

1/6400 (checking for CA...same other exif)
http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/128583652-L.jpg

[Lightstream]

Nice. CA is probably not something you need to worry about. I like #3, seems like a decent copy. BTW the 1/40 shot is quite impressive.. normally you can't expect to get away with that!!

[Skip Souza]

If Chuck falls out of your hands and lands in the dirt...does that make him ground chuck? Let's see those shots!:shock:
Oh that is baaad. :lol:

[Lightstream]

Heya folks....just thought of something I wanted to ask.

I got one of those headaches again after running around the zoo for a few hours in the afternoon with all the gear and stuff.. it was 32degC (nearly 90F), and the sun was pretty strong. Came back and my head started to hurt. This isn't the first time it's happened, but I notice it does happen when the temperature is over 30, when I'm exerting myself outdoors in the sun - any insight into what causes the headache?

Had a hat and shades on as well.. so we can rule those out.

[gjl711]

Heya folks....just thought of something I wanted to ask. ....when I'm exerting myself outdoors in the sun - any insight into what causes the headache?

Had a hat and shades on as well.. so we can rule those out. Yup, your not drinking enough, or your not drinking the right stuff.

[SuzyView]

Anyone see those pictures from Buffalo, NY. They've had 92 inches of snow this week! I think I would just say "forget it" and not shovel another foot and stay indoors and sleep. Bears have it good.

[Jon]

Yup, your not drinking enough, or your not drinking the right stuff.
And in this case, strange as it may seem, the "right stuff" is water. So you need one of these (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=274664) as your next body.

[gjl711]

And in this case, strange as it may seem, the "right stuff" is water. ...And on a hot day it can be a lot. I am an avid hiker and occasionally a friend will come with. I had this one guy who wanted to come but didn't have equipment. I loaned him my canteen and he fill it with beer. I didn't know that he had done so and about midway, he became ill. I though he was dehydrated and tried to give him a drink from his canteen when I noticed the smell. I had actually noticed it earlier but just a whiff and never figured that anyone would be silly enough to exchange water for beer on a hike. We ended up leaving him at a ranger station and hiked back to the car to pick him up. What a knuckle head...

[Maureen Souza]

Anyone see those pictures from Buffalo, NY. They've had 92 inches of snow this week! I think I would just say "forget it" and not shovel another foot and stay indoors and sleep. Bears have it good.
Yes I saw that.... those poor people. I should be thankful for our 2 measely months of cold weather.

[saravrose]

If Chuck falls out of your hands and lands in the dirt...does that make him ground chuck? Let's see those shots!:shock:

umm.. I just bought it and even the suggestion of something happening to him makes me very, very nervous.. :confused: :evil: ..

I have photos working now but my exposure with the snow is a bit blown so the JPEGS aren't going to be okay.. gonna have to go through RAW conversions for everybody so it'll take a few minutes..

sari

[Woolburr]

Yes I saw that.... those poor people. I should be thankful for our 2 measely months of cold weather.

I just talked to one of the guys that used to work for me...he lives in Parish, NY....just to the east of lake Ontario...they have 104 inches of snow already and the weather folks are calling for an additional 16-18 inches before tapering off late Sunday.:shock:
That's 10 feet! Governor has declared a disaster for that region of the state and is considering declaring one for the Buffalo area as well, although they don't have quite as much snow.

[Skip Souza]

That stuff looks great on Christmas cards and Coca Cola commercials but it's not worth a damn when you have to shovel it off the driveway :-)

[Woolburr]

Going to have a hard time selling global warming to those folks.

[puddlepirate44]

OK, here's the thing. Lisa's driving me nuts. Will one of you please tell her that she should have the 300 with the IS. Or the 400 f/5.6 w/o the IS. I don't care which. Well, not true. I think she should have the 400, but my voice isn't enough on this one. She needs the support of the entire internet community. I beggin' here....



Heya folks....just thought of something I wanted to ask.

I got one of those headaches again after running around the zoo for a few hours in the afternoon with all the gear and stuff.. it was 32degC (nearly 90F), and the sun was pretty strong. Came back and my head started to hurt. This isn't the first time it's happened, but I notice it does happen when the temperature is over 30, when I'm exerting myself outdoors in the sun - any insight into what causes the headache?

Had a hat and shades on as well.. so we can rule those out.

I agree with the rest, LS. It's water you need, copious amounts during the hot days. At least that's what it looks like without further data....

[Permagrin]

I can't believe he said I was driving him nuts....:cry: :rolleyes:

[puddlepirate44]

I can't believe he said I was driving him nuts....:cry: :rolleyes:

I'm nuts, she was driving most of the day... she's driving me nuts.... :rolleyes:

[saravrose]

hi folks.. here are my shots from today..

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b130/saravrose/newlensshots104-01.jpg

and I started a thread with a few more..

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=274786

[Woolburr]

I can't believe he said I was driving him nuts....:cry: :rolleyes:

I can!
I love my 300 f/4 IS....it works great with a TC...it is very sharp...and is probably one of the best bargains in the business.

[timbernet]

Wow - that area is awesome looking! Great shot too... I love how the barn stands out.

[Skip Souza]

Short trip Puddle :-)

[saravrose]

OK, here's the thing. Lisa's driving me nuts. Will one of you please tell her that she should have the 300 with the IS. Or the 400 f/5.6 w/o the IS. I don't care which. Well, not true. I think she should have the 400, but my voice isn't enough on this one. She needs the support of the entire internet community. I beggin' here....





I agree with the rest, LS. It's water you need, copious amounts during the hot days. At least that's what it looks like without further data....

yep. sounds like you were dehydrated LS.. I do that quite a bit and have actually made myself pass out because of being in the heat..

LISA!! I think you should go for the 400.. use a monopod and have a great time!!

[saravrose]

Wow - that area is awesome looking! Great shot too... I love how the barn stands out.

thank you. and yes I do live in one of the prettiest little corners of the Northwest.. But, i'm really ready for Spring time..

[wu_wei0]

OK, here's the thing. Lisa's driving me nuts. Will one of you please tell her that she should have the 300 with the IS. Or the 400 f/5.6 w/o the IS. I don't care which. Well, not true. I think she should have the 400, but my voice isn't enough on this one. She needs the support of the entire internet community. I beggin' here....

300 IS

[Permagrin]

LOL...did you guys draw lots and every other one of you will say the opposite :)

[saravrose]

LOL...did you guys draw lots and every other one of you will say the opposite :)

I was trying to be agreeable with Puddle and give him a hand... ;) ;) .. I think that lenses are pretty individual things what works for me may not be for you... Ultimately it's your decision. But boy do I like the 400 end on Chuck!!:D :D

[Belmondo]

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Sorry. I have a modulation problem going here.

[wu_wei0]

Thank goodness! It was about time. I have been waiting for a moooo since this morning.

[Permagrin]

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Sorry. I have a modulation problem going here.

Actually Chief, (I was a vocal coach for a while) I have to say your diaphram control is pretty darn good in those modulations!

[Woolburr]

LOL...did you guys draw lots and every other one of you will say the opposite
Yup!

[puddlepirate44]

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Sorry. I have a modulation problem going here.

Actually, that's kinda cool to look at...

[Woolburr]

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Sorry. I have a modulation problem going here.

Isn't that a "moodulation" problem?

[asolie]

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Sounds Moooody. :)

[Belmondo]

Actually Chief, (I was a vocal coach for a while) I have to say your diaphram control is pretty darn good in those modulations!Well, thanks, Permie. I guess all those years of practice have paid off. Actually, I can't carry a tune in a bucket, but my parents were both excellent singers in their day. Mom was actually a highly sought-after soloist, and would practice singing for hours at a time it seemed.

My wife's ability to create music is generally limited to stepping on the cat's tail in time to music.

[Maureen Souza]

I would get the 300 with IS. No question about it.

[Belmondo]

Actually, that's kinda cool to look at...Reminds me of San Francisco for some reason.:rolleyes:

[puddlepirate44]

Reminds me of San Francisco for some reason.:rolleyes:

A suspension Moo. An engineering marvel.

[Maureen Souza]

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Sorry. I have a modulation problem going here.
That was a lot of typing work. I love a GOOD Mooosical moo;)

[Lightstream]

Yup, your not drinking enough, or your not drinking the right stuff.

And in this case, strange as it may seem, the "right stuff" is water. So you need one of these (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=274664) as your next body.

And on a hot day it can be a lot. I am an avid hiker and occasionally a friend will come with. I had this one guy who wanted to come but didn't have equipment. I loaned him my canteen and he fill it with beer. I didn't know that he had done so and about midway, he became ill. I though he was dehydrated and tried to give him a drink from his canteen when I noticed the smell. I had actually noticed it earlier but just a whiff and never figured that anyone would be silly enough to exchange water for beer on a hike. We ended up leaving him at a ranger station and hiked back to the car to pick him up. What a knuckle head...

I agree with the rest, LS. It's water you need, copious amounts during the hot days. At least that's what it looks like without further data....

I can!
I love my 300 f/4 IS....it works great with a TC...it is very sharp...and is probably one of the best bargains in the business.

yep. sounds like you were dehydrated LS.. I do that quite a bit and have actually made myself pass out because of being in the heat..

LISA!! I think you should go for the 400.. use a monopod and have a great time!!

Thanks all.. apparently I didn't drink enough - I had a bit of water, but the head says otherwise.

I never realized the impact of this problem.. in fact it goes all the way back to my school days, there was one incident where I was running a mile and a half and didn't make it to the finish line, I was throwing up but nothing came up. Plus headache and all. Nobody, even the teachers, were clueful enough to tell me what the problem was.. they simply said I was a wimp and I basically figured that I didn't take it well.. and we left it at that.

It was only yesterday that I realized.. hey.. this feels a lot like the hangover headache. Now, I know a few things about drink of the other kind, including the scientific explanation as to what causes it (dehydration sucks water from your brain), and the not-so-scientific fix (drink half a gallon before going to bed after a night on the town).. the only thing missing was the drink, of both kinds.

There were a couple of other indicators to show that I was indeed dehydrated, so I think that was the explanation. Thanks for the education.. I'll be more careful. These are the hot, hot days of summer over here. Maybe time to buy the Lowepro bottle bag because it sliplocks nicely onto one of my Domke's metal hardpoints on the side.

Nice beer story.. talk about a double whammy!

Actually Chief, (I was a vocal coach for a while) I have to say your diaphram control is pretty darn good in those modulations!

Nice amplitude modulation (AM) at that, too ;)


OK, here's the thing. Lisa's driving me nuts. Will one of you please tell her that she should have the 300 with the IS. Or the 400 f/5.6 w/o the IS. I don't care which. Well, not true. I think she should have the 400, but my voice isn't enough on this one. She needs the support of the entire internet community. I beggin' here....

I can!
I love my 300 f/4 IS....it works great with a TC...it is very sharp...and is probably one of the best bargains in the business.

I have always said.. get the 300/4 ISL!! She said....hands shake. So IS will help, because it's hard enough to get high shutter speeds. I was shooting 1/2000 at 640mm FOV, with IS on, ISO 400 in bright daylight.

The moment the light drops below less than perfect you're going to get shake. The 300/4 interoperates well with a 1.4X TC (can't speak for the 2X), it's fast focusing, it's sharp, CA free..

I mean, I've been talkin', but I ain't so sure there's been listenin' :mrgreen:

[Woolburr]

That was a lot of typing work. I love a GOOD Mooosical moo;)

Very good...:lol:

[Lightstream]

BTW, for the rest of you who missed the lions yesterday:

http://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=274442

They were basically the reason I put up with the heat and the walk... :)

[saravrose]

BTW, for the rest of you who missed the lions yesterday:

http://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=274442

They were basically the reason I put up with the heat and the walk... :)

About two years ago I took my niece to the waterpark in July.. at the time her mom was a smoker so she got out of the water every forty-five minutes or so to smoke and take a break..

I had Abby-girl all day. and a five year old will stop long enough to take a drink themselves, and put on more sunscreen. we were there for six hours and I felt tired enough that I just went to bed. The next day I felt almost like a hangover for most of the day.. and then my relief was two hours late for work.. About an hour before my shift was up the cook told me that I looked a little bit green I told him that he was annoying and he shouldn't tell a woman that she doesn't look good... :oops: :oops: .. and then I passed out.

I remember reaching for a Long Island to set down at a table and the next thing I know my big old cook had me in the office and was calling his wife to come take me home. It took me about three days until I felt like I could stand up for more than twenty minutes. and to this day is one of the most embarrassing things i've ever done at a job. Drink a LOT of water. you should have to take a bathroom break every other hour or so.. if you don't then you're not drinking enough..

sari

[Jon]

300 IS Perm. If you don't go for the 100-400 that is. There are lots of good ones out there.

[puddlepirate44]

Drink a LOT of water. you should have to take a bathroom break every other hour or so.. if you don't then you're not drinking enough..

sari

Well, in my studies, a person should drink up to seven to eight gallons an hour. If a person doesn't slosh when walking, and doesn't require to use the "facilities" every five minutes, well, then they're taking their live in their hands....

Sari's right. Even if you don't think you need water, you should have some. Some docs say that 3-4 liters a day.

[Lightstream]

Couple more animals from the zoo expedition....

http://pix.lightrefineries.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2385&g2_serialNumber=2

http://pix.lightrefineries.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2388&g2_serialNumber=2

"I LOOOOOOOOOVE my fooooooooood"
http://pix.lightrefineries.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2391&g2_serialNumber=2

I even shot a pair of Canadian Grey Geese for all my fellow Grey Goose vodka drinkers.. :D

http://pix.lightrefineries.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2424&g2_serialNumber=2

[Lightstream]

About two years ago I took my niece to the waterpark in July.. at the time her mom was a smoker so she got out of the water every forty-five minutes or so to smoke and take a break..

I had Abby-girl all day. and a five year old will stop long enough to take a drink themselves, and put on more sunscreen. we were there for six hours and I felt tired enough that I just went to bed. The next day I felt almost like a hangover for most of the day.. and then my relief was two hours late for work.. About an hour before my shift was up the cook told me that I looked a little bit green I told him that he was annoying and he shouldn't tell a woman that she doesn't look good... :oops: :oops: .. and then I passed out.

I remember reaching for a Long Island to set down at a table and the next thing I know my big old cook had me in the office and was calling his wife to come take me home. It took me about three days until I felt like I could stand up for more than twenty minutes. and to this day is one of the most embarrassing things i've ever done at a job. Drink a LOT of water. you should have to take a bathroom break every other hour or so.. if you don't then you're not drinking enough..

sari

Wow, very scary story.. glad you came out of that one all right. I just got headaches and always dismissed them.. you won't finding me doing that again!

[puddlepirate44]

"I LOOOOOOOOOVE my fooooooooood"



Very funny!! :lol: :lol:

[Permagrin]

LOL...Yoda the "I looooove my food" one was so funny! And those are the weirdest looking geese I've ever seen!

[saravrose]

I like the zebra and the geese!! very cool shots.

[Lightstream]

Thanks :) The geese were so wierd I couldn't even identify them till it was pointed out to me. The eland eating seems to be lost in a world of utter bliss.. I mean food is great and all.. but wow..... :lol:

[Permagrin]

Those geese look like dinosaurs...they look like NO Geese I've ever seen before...:lol: :lol:

[Lightstream]

I also have a pair of giraffes from the expedition..
http://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=2683552

I'm really keen on taking their open vehicle tour. This vehicle was really hard to shoot from with very small windows, most of which could not be opened. We passed by one of the open vehicles.. it's just a frame and seats and complete freedom to aim the long lenses.. :)

PG.. I don't mean to make your decision harder but it also convinced me that while the 400mm is a LITTLE bit sharper when pixel peeped, there is no way I could be happy with a fixed FL..

Also my dust problem seems to have settled down once the 100-400's been properly broken in. I took dust baseline images after cleaning the 30D, before I went on the shoot, and the 'after' images show only 2 more spots, which is really not bad considering I was shovelling the 1-4 back and forth in very fine blowing dust that got everywhere.. when you close your mouth you can feel it. I did not change lenses however.. if I was on an extended shoot rather than just a fun daytrip, I'd have the 5D and 24-105 mounted for WA/std zoom cover.. eliminating the need to change lenses.

Quite a surprise considering that halfway through the trip, looking at my 30D slicked with a fine coat of red dust, I was expecting to have to vacuum out the sensor and mirror box! So that's my theory.. that the 1-4 is stirring dust inside the camera. I used the blower on the 30D prior to setting out and after when I got back.

[Woolburr]

Yoda failed to mention the goose pen being atop a nuclear waste facility...you should see the neat green glow those geese have at night.

[Permagrin]

I'm not going going to buy another 1-4. I hated that lens. I KNOW that there are good ones out there, obviously yours, Blonde's, Cat's have all been proven and Sari's new one looks good but there are SO many that aren't...just don't want to do it again. Plus, I hated the push/pull (and the dust, though I did notice I had less trouble with dust after the first month or so...who knows why).

[Lightstream]

Yoda failed to mention the goose pen being atop a nuclear waste facility...you should see the neat green glow those geese have at night.


:shock: oooooooh, cool....no wonder they throw us out at 5PM before the sun sets.. they don't want to show us the good stuff ;)

[calicokat]

I'm going going to buy another 1-4. I hated that lens. I KNOW that there are good ones out there, obviously yours, Blonde's, Cat's have all been proven and Sari's new one looks good but there are SO many that aren't...just don't want to do it again. Plus, I hated the push/pull (and the dust, though I did notice I had less trouble with dust after the first month or so...who knows why).

Get the best bird in flight lens there is...................