Red-Ringed Tupperware Party with (ineffective) Tin Foil Hats

[Belmondo]

Now that is dedication...

While you're here I might as well ask you - what do you do with buyers who string you along? You have more experience especially with pesky buyers than I (hopefully) ever will.During our first few years, that was a problem. We didn't have a large enough client base to be able to pick and choose, so we'd probably keep working them long past the point where it made sense. After a few years, we were strong enough to figure out who those people were, and move on to someone more likely to buy. I guess it's part of the learning curve. As our career developed, we spent less and less time working with buyers at all, and concentrated on sellers. I think most agents eventually come to the realization that listings are the saner approach to doing well in the profession.

One thing that seemed to changed in our dealings with clients over time was our ability to convey to them that our time was as valuable as theirs. Another thing we did was to make the clients do some of the work. If I though someone was really wasting my time, I'd call them with a list of 20-30 properties to drive by. Obviously, I wouldn't have done that if they were good buyers, but it frequently gave them a little appreciation for what they're expecting me to do without completely severing the relationship 'just in case.'

I've known some agents who have a strict rule---I'm not going to show more than X number of houses, etc., etc. That's just not real world, and they're losing money that way. Some buyers are simply going to take longer than others, but with any buyers, there is a point beyond which it makes no sense to waste any more time with them, and then it becomes a matter of tactfully telling them so. You've done everything in your power, and maybe they should be talking to someone else. That's hard to do when you've spent days, weeks, or months trying to develop the relationship.

When you're in sales, the most valuable thing you have is time. People who have no regard for it are not your friends.

[Lightstream]

hmmm.....very good wisdom. I was just talking to one of my very experienced colleagues about relationship management an hour ago and he shared some of his hard earned wisdom as well. There are certain avenues not pursuing.. true that.

Thanks for sharing, I appreciate it. Won't hold you up now - see if you can get some more sleep. It's late night in my sector as well and I should be hitting the hay.. it makes tomorrow get here faster, especially when tomorrow holds promise of a big fat L :mrgreen:

[Belmondo]

Boy, am I an ass. I just went back and looked at the thread, and realized you were asking about how do deal with people who are buying your used camera equipment.:o:o:o:o Instead, I end up giving you a lecture about selling real estate, which has no relevance at all.

My apologies.

As to your question as I now understand it, I think you have to be fair and reasonable. That applies to yourself, too, and you are certainly entitled to at least equal consideration from the buyer. If a person is dragging their feet, just give them a deadline. Explain that part of your decision in accepting their offer was getting their money in a timely manner. If that's not going to be the case, you'll have to find another buyer. It is possible to be firm without being a jerk.


I'm sure you can say that tactfully without ruffling feathers.

[Maureen Souza]

Boy, am I an ass. I just went back and looked at the thread, and realized you were asking about how do deal with people who are buying your used camera equipment.:o:o:o:o Instead, I end up giving you a lecture about selling real estate, which has no relevance at all.

My apologies.




Blame it on the hour of the morning, Tom. It seems everyone has a case of Zombia Insomnia tonight.

[Lightstream]

No worries Chief.. there are more lessons to be learned from your real estate tale. Many of my colleagues come from diverse backgrounds and the stories we tell are very industry-specific.. it's up to everybody else to extract the lesson from the underlying story. I would say you conveyed it well.. there was plenty for me to learn in there. Not only selling glass but dealing with clients in general. :)

[Belmondo]

Blame it on the hour of the morning, Tom. It seems everyone has a case of Zombia Insomnia tonight.
AT least you're getting paid for being awake.

:lol:

[puddlepirate44]

I'm not. I'm taking off for work right now, though.... See you all tonight. Or whenever it is for you 'round the globe types...

[neil_r]

AT least you're getting paid for being awake.

:lol:

What you need is a new bed .... Doh

[Belmondo]

What you need is a new bed .... DohIt could be here within 5 hours; they're delivering it today sometime between 9:00am and 2:00pm. Unfortunately it won't salvage this night's sleep, but there's always tomorrow.

[Maureen Souza]

It could be here within 5 hours; they're delivering it today sometime between 9:00am and 2:00pm. Unfortunately it won't salvage this night's sleep, but there's always tomorrow.
But a nap sounds good. It'll sound even better after that bed is delivered.:D

[tommykjensen]

Holy c... I was just looking at the webpage of a local kamerashop where camera bodies and lenses are among the cheapest available in Copenhagen and just a 5 min. walk from where I live.

Then I browsed through their prices on memorycards. I sincerely hope nobody buys their memorycards.

A 4 GB SanDisk Extreme IV cost 2.195 DKK = $378 !! Everywhere else the same card only cost 630 DKK = $108. Talk about a huge profit :evil:

https://webshop.kamerahuset.dk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=85_86&products_id=1554&osCsid=2ce6327a460d158be90f968415351522

[Belmondo]

But a nap sounds good. It'll sound even better after that bed is delivered.:DI think Lois has other plans for the day beyond just waiting for the bed. No rest for the weary.

Holy c... I was just looking at the webpage of a local kamerashop where camera bodies and lenses are among the cheapest available in Copenhagen and just a 5 min. walk from where I live.

Then I browsed through their prices on memorycards. I sincerely hope nobody buys their memorycards.

A 4 GB SanDisk Extreme IV cost 2.195 DKK = $378 !! Everywhere else the same card only cost 630 DKK = $108. Talk about a huge profit :evil:

https://webshop.kamerahuset.dk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=85_86&products_id=1554&osCsid=2ce6327a460d158be90f968415351522
Boy, that is expensive. I Bought a 4G card yesterday for around $130 US, and thought I'd overpaid.

[cylentka]

I Bought a 4G card yesterday

I just bought one too. You need to rename this the Spending Thread.

[Belmondo]

I just bought one too. You need to rename this the Spending Thread.Amen, Wanda. I didin't really need that card, but I just felt I had to reward myself for spending the whole day in furniture stores doing my wife's bidding.
;)

[cylentka]

Amen, Wanda. I didin't really need that card, but I just felt I had to reward myself for spending the whole day in furniture stores doing my wife's bidding.
;)

Very commendable. (not to mention expensive. . .)

[tommykjensen]

Hehe well last week I did order 2 4 GB Extreme IV cards because the price dropped to 50% but today I cancelled the order because the webshop never responded to a status inquery. Ususally when I order cards before 4 pm I can have them the day after so waiting from thursday until today without any kind of acknowledgement that they had processed my order mean they loose my business. The competition is hard on memory cards here so they should respond faster or loose business.

Since the price is still dropping a little I am going to wait a few days before ordering the cards from the webshop I usually use.

And I am also starting to consider getting the 24-105 IS. I probably should wait a month or two but might go get it friday or saturday if the shop has it in stock then (they have it now).

[Belmondo]

And I am also starting to consider getting the 24-105 IS. I probably should wait a month or two but might go get it friday or saturday if the shop has it in stock then (they have it now).You'll love it, Tommy. It's an amazingly versatile lens.

[tommykjensen]

Yeah I am considering it for the africa trip. I checked the specs and both size and weigth is smaller than the 24-70 f/2.8 so I am leaning towards the 24-105. Because I figure with IS and on the 5D I probably can do without the extra stop.

[Claire]

I had my hair cut and coloured an hour ago. :D Now I look nice again. hehe

[thomascanty]

So where's the picture? ;)

[Claire]

I tried taking one with the phone camera, but it doesn't really show off the haircut. :(

[timbernet]

Mooorning all!

[tommykjensen]

I tried taking one with the phone camera, but it doesn't really show off the haircut. :(

Hmm try with a real camera :p

[Claire]

Hmm try with a real camera :p

:p It's at home.

[Woolburr]

:p It's at home.

You will be...eventually...;)

[Belmondo]

I had my hair cut and coloured an hour ago. :D Now I look nice again. heheHappy haircut, Claire. I'm sure you look stunning.;)

[aussieskier]

I tried taking one with the phone camera, but it doesn't really show off the haircut. :(

Camera phone... ::Shudders at the thought: I am sure it looks good don't ruin it with a camera phone picture, like all the highschool freshman on Myspace.

[wu_wei0]

Moooooo, Tuppers.

[Belmondo]

Moooooo, Tuppers.
Moo, Wu.
How are you today?

Did I see something earlier about a possible career change?

[wu_wei0]

Moo, Wu.
How are you today?

Did I see something earlier about a possible career change?

Doing fine and dandy. waiting for my dentist appt.

Perhaps, career change. Most definitely a location change. I got my official letter of non-reappointment yesterday.

How's the new bed?

[Permagrin]

Morning Tupperwarians...
There's a nice windstorm going on outside...rain too...so I'm having a cozy day indoors with my cat. I may have cabin fever but I'm not cold and wet ;)

Yeah I am considering it for the africa trip. I checked the specs and both size and weigth is smaller than the 24-70 f/2.8 so I am leaning towards the 24-105. Because I figure with IS and on the 5D I probably can do without the extra stop.

I think you'll love it too Tommy. Of all the lenses I've owned, t's still my favorite...

[tommykjensen]

Here's a funny video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RMLt28n0-M

I am not commenting on who's the worst driver instead have a look at this one too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9s3_Tw6Mic&NR

[Woolburr]

You are a brave man Tommy...

[Permagrin]

I just took an indoor photo w/my 24-105 (it's rather dark in here) at f8 w/the 5D...I don't know why people say it's not a good low light lens...

Here's my LAZY cat bracing his head and watching the birds outside ;) (he's not fat, for some reason here he just looks it)
http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/132551000-L.jpg

[Woolburr]

Actually, the 24-105 is an outstanding low-light lens...the problem is people just don't understand IS and common terminology. If people could ever get it through their heads that IS stops motion on the camera end of the image instead of the subject end, it would make understanding things so much simpler.

[Belmondo]

Doing fine and dandy. waiting for my dentist appt.

Perhaps, career change. Most definitely a location change. I got my official letter of non-reappointment yesterday.

How's the new bed?I have every confidence you'll make the best of this situation.


The bed is being delivered today, sometime before 2:00. I'm looking forward to the bed, but not all the work of rearranging the bedroom. Lois is in her "Let's try this" mode. It could go on for days.

[timbernet]

I just took an indoor photo w/my 24-105 (it's rather dark in here) at f8 w/the 5D...I don't know why people say it's not a good low light lens...

Here's my LAZY cat bracing his head and watching the birds outside ;) (he's not fat, for some reason here he just looks it)



He's not fat, just big boned ;-)

Some cute sites for cat -
http://www.cuteoverload.com/
http://stuffonmycat.com/

[thomascanty]

Here's my LAZY cat bracing his head and watching the birds outside ;)

I love it! How could anyone not love cats. They have laziness down to an art form! :D

[Permagrin]

Actually, the 24-105 is an outstanding low-light lens...the problem is people just don't understand IS and common terminology. If people could ever get it through their heads that IS stops motion on the camera end of the image instead of the subject end, it would make understanding things so much simpler.

That brings up a good point...lately I've been seeing people argue/debate something (there's a thread on the definition of "reach" that comes to mind) and really have absolutely NO concept of what they are talking about. They just seize on what makes sense to them and try to shift every comment to "make their point". It's so hard to know who really knows what they are talking about (if one is ignorant on a particular subject) because some of the most eloquent really are the worst informed.

You know what's cracked me up though? Since the new 16-35 was announced, everyone talking trash about how "bad" the old (that's not really old at all) one was. BUT if you look at all the "what lens should I buy" from 1 month ago and beyond, if the option was btw. the 16-35 and the 17-40, 99% would say the 16-35....Now I'm NOT saying the 16-35 is bad. I don't think it is. I think if you are going to put 16mm on a FF, it's going to be very TOUGH to get it to be sharp to the edges...but the way "educated" opinions go around here, I'm beginning to think you just have to KNOW the person who's speaking...know if they've really got "time" with the product...otherwise beware of opinions. Because they always trend toward the newest...

I just read yesterday where one person was REALLY vehement about the IQ of the 5D stomping the MKIIN. He intimated he'd had both (quote: I've had both)...but he hadn't (later said: If I'd owned both I'd show you the diff but I haven't)...it came out that he'd just seen shots from both but OWNED the 5D. Now the OP was considering buying one or the other and wanted the best IQ...and here you've got someone literally VOWING that the 5D was a million times better...now I've owned both...I think they are really comparable, with the MKIIN winning on options and the 5D winning on ISO (and that just barely) and of course the larger sensor...but again, that's my opinion.

Anyway, I think chat threads like this, really do help, community wise because there isn't one person here that I wouldn't feel comfortable asking and recieving an answer to a gear or technical question. Out "there" I have to take everything with a grain of salt and sift through "who's a gear head", "who's trying to justify their purchases", "who likes to sound smart" and "who really knows their stuff."

Just a morning observation :D

[thomascanty]

Permie. When you're looking at the forum's main page, there's a little blue button on the far right side of the header above the "Equipment Talk" section. It has a couple chevrons (or arrows, if you will) in it. Click on that.

That will hide that section of the forum from your view. I did that a year or two ago. My blood pressure has been much better ever since then. ;)

[tommykjensen]

I just took an indoor photo w/my 24-105 (it's rather dark in here) at f8 w/the 5D...I don't know why people say it's not a good low light lens...

Here's my LAZY cat bracing his head and watching the birds outside ;) (he's not fat, for some reason here he just looks it)


At what ISO ? And shutterspeed?

Actually, the 24-105 is an outstanding low-light lens...the problem is people just don't understand IS and common terminology. If people could ever get it through their heads that IS stops motion on the camera end of the image instead of the subject end, it would make understanding things so much simpler.


What?? are you saying IS don't freeze action ? :p


j/k. Maybe it would be easier to understand with a different name. Something like anti-shake which describes the actual action it helps for.



I checked the archive thread for photos shot with this lens but there where not many of them also shot with with the 5D. If anybody have high ISO low light photos taken with this lens and 5D I would very much like to see more. Add them to the archive thread for future reference: http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=142974

[Belmondo]

Permie. When you're looking at the forum's main page, there's a little blue button on the far right side of the header above the "Equipment Talk" section. It has a couple chevrons (or arrows, if you will) in it. Click on that.

That will hide that section of the forum from your view. I did that a year or two ago. My blood pressure has been much better ever since then. ;)I wish I had the luxury.

[Permagrin]

Permie. When you're looking at the forum's main page, there's a little blue button on the far right side of the header above the "Equipment Talk" section. It has a couple chevrons (or arrows, if you will) in it. Click on that.

That will hide that section of the forum from your view. I did that a year or two ago. My blood pressure has been much better ever since then. ;)

LOL :lol: :lol: I'm not upset Lonnie really...I was just thinking how confusing things must be for someone who really doesn't know what to do. I know that when I'm in the dark about something and post a thread for an answer, I really do get about 50% of people who either don't know but want to appear that they do or want to argue against whatever's said. And the other 50% are exactly opposing viewpoints (such as in my recent "should I get the 400 or the 300 F4 IS" thread...) It can be very confusing. :lol:

[Permagrin]

At what ISO ? And shutterspeed?



ISO 800
1/25th of a sec.
105mm

[Woolburr]

There are lots of wild claims made about this, that or the other camera, lens or photographic accessory being totally superior to any other camera, lens or photographic accessory. You can usually tell who knows what they are talking about and who doesn't....not by their level of techno babble, but by their actual willingness to go out and take an image or two to use to prove or disprove the point. All you have to do is read the "worst (insert choice of tool here) ever" threads to find out who is knowledgeable and who is full of it up to their ears.

At least here in Tupperville, you can count on the regulars giving you a reasonable answer, generally backed up with some proof, even if it does involve a bit of @ss busting from the rest of the gang.

[thomascanty]

I wish I had the luxury.

I don't envy you or any of the mods, but certainly do appreciate your presence.

It's a dirty job, but someone has to do it. Right?

[aussieskier]

At least here in Tupperville, you can count on the regulars giving you a reasonable answer, generally backed up with some proof, even if it does involve a bit of @ss busting from the rest of the gang.

Yea I am starting to realize this and plan on asking question here before going else where for info.

[Woolburr]

Yea I am starting to realize this and plan on asking question here before going else where for info.

We seldom lead people too far astray. Not everyone understands the mooooooos or Tupperware references...but they can usually spot the good advice.;) Time to go shoot something...enjoy the your day!

[wu_wei0]

We seldom lead people too far astray. Not everyone understands the mooooooos or Tupperware references...but they can usually spot the good advice.;) Time to go shoot something...enjoy the your day!

I'll be looking forward to seeing shots when I get done with my day.

Permid, I love the kitty photo! nice atmosphere. You captured "catness" quite well!

[Belmondo]

Not everyone understands the mooooooos or Tupperware references...That would include me....:confused:

[Permagrin]

I'll be looking forward to seeing shots when I get done with my day.

Permid, I love the kitty photo! nice atmosphere. You captured "catness" quite well!

Thanks Wuuudles ;)

That would include me....:confused:

Well Chief, for saying you are il-moooliterate, you speak it quite well :lol:

[wu_wei0]

I have every confidence you'll make the best of this situation.


It is my intent!
I hope I can keep the adventure part firmly in mind. It is just me and the kitties so I could go anywhere.
I would kind of like to be closer to Chris, Angie, and Bean. If the others weren't in MN, I would love being closer to them. I have decided I can no longer do this much cold, or this much north.:)

[wu_wei0]

OK another meeting to go to. Hate going back to campus.:evil:
Hope there are lots of lovely shots being shared wohen I get back.

[Lord_Malone]

Let's see... Who can I whip today...

Wu!! :mad:

[ibdb]

Yeah I am considering it for the africa trip. I checked the specs and both size and weigth is smaller than the 24-70 f/2.8 so I am leaning towards the 24-105. Because I figure with IS and on the 5D I probably can do without the extra stop.
I just got my 24-105 before my Maui trip. It's a little bit long on the wide side on my 20D, but it makes a great pair with the 10-22 I got just prior. :oops::D;)

It was actually the 10-22 that made me think the 24-105 would be a good option for me, and now I'm really glad I have both. I have a few shots from both I'll be posting soon, and I can strongly recommend both with no reservations.

For now, the "only" shots I have posted were taken with the "lowly" 70-300 IS ;):p:D, and can be found here (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=282916) (includes your requested additions, Permie ;)).

[Permagrin]

hey, here's a good video of wet and dry sensor cleaning (about halfway down the page).
http://www.visibledust.com/
I'm buying the arctic butterfly just as soon as I'm done typing this! :D

[tommykjensen]

I just got my 24-105 before my Maui trip. It's a little bit long on the wide side on my 20D, but it makes a great pair with the 10-22 I got just prior. :oops::D;)


I will be using it on my 5D so I think the focal length will be just perfect. And means I can probably leave the 16-35 at home.

[Permagrin]

I will be using it on my 5D so I think the focal length will be just perfect. And means I can probably leave the 16-35 at home.

Tommy, I'm looking for low light shots with the 24-105 right now :)

[tommykjensen]

Thanks.

[ibdb]

Fiddling around (meaning shots not worth sharing, but worth playing with), I was able to get close to 1/2 second exposures handheld that I was very pleased with.

I'll have to see if I can find any worth sharing, though I'm sure there are lots better than what I'm likely to have out there among the Tupperwarians.

[wu_wei0]

Let's see... Who can I whip today...

Wu!! :mad:

Yes? You lookin' to try to whoop me?:lol:

[Permagrin]

Yes? You lookin' to try to whoop me?:lol:

My money's on you SIS...I've had too many bruisings to pick AGAINST YOU! :lol:

[ibdb]

So he's got his manties in a bunch again today, huh? :p;):lol:

[wu_wei0]

My money's on you SIS...I've had too many bruisings to pick AGAINST YOU! :lol:
Smart choice. :D Did just get back from oral surgery earlier, so no hitting in the face.
So he's got his manties in a bunch again today, huh? :p;):lol:
Never quite sure with him ;)

Guess he got tired of waiting

[Permagrin]

Smart choice. :D Did just get back from oral surgery so no hitting in the face.

Good heavens...why?

[Lord_Malone]

Yes? You lookin' to try to whoop me?:lol:

Put your boxing gloves on, miss.

Do ya SMMMEEEEEL-L-L-L-L-L-L-L- what the Lord is cookin'??!!

I'm whuppin' that ass!

[wu_wei0]

Good heavens...why?
IF it isn't one thing, it's a half a dozen others.

[wu_wei0]

Put your boxing gloves on, miss.

Do ya SMMMEEEEEL-L-L-L-L-L-L-L- what the Lord is cookin'??!!

I'm whuppin' that ass!

This one?? This one right here??
Always knew the Lord had it in for me!

[Permagrin]

Thanks.

Tommy here are two galleries. I would rather not have them linked to the thread because one is a private gallery but they are all shot with the 24-105 and the 5D (at iso's varying from 200 to 1600) in very BAD forest lighting...(the photos are varying in comp..some good, some not & they will probably bore you, but it's a wide spectrum of what you can expect with that combo in tough conditions).

(edit: links removed)

[Lightstream]

Actually, the 24-105 is an outstanding low-light lens...the problem is people just don't understand IS and common terminology. If people could ever get it through their heads that IS stops motion on the camera end of the image instead of the subject end, it would make understanding things so much simpler.

It would also save a gigantic amount of carp about 'IS doesn't stop motion'. I get lectured a lot on that too. I know it doesn't stop motion. Imodium stops motion. Depends catch motion if Imodium fails. THAT is the backup plan. Yes I have Imodium in the camera bag as part of the emergency first aid kit should the SHTF, or merely, hit the toilet too often :p (when you travel, take NO chances especially when you are far from home)

See, some of the best solutions are low tech. Ask your pharmacist. Generics work just as well as the original drug too, and are cheaper. My doc prescribes generics for the really bad days, together with a couple of other concoctions to restore the guts to normal working order. Generally something to restore the 'good' bacteria in the gut as well as a clay solution to adsorb (no, not misspelled) any remaining toxins in the GI tract. I believe the 3 things are available OTC too, but this is the first time I've seen anybody recommend all 3 at once, thrice a day till it's fixed.

Oh, where were we, talking about IS...... ;)

My money's on you SIS...I've had too many bruisings to pick AGAINST YOU! :lol:

Cat fight ;)

[Lord_Malone]

This one?? This one right here??
Always knew the Lord had it in for me!

Oh yeah, baby. Yer goin' down, dood.

[Permagrin]

Cat fight ;)

DID YOU JUST CALL ED A CAT? HOLY COW YODA, YOU'VE GOT CHUTZPAH!

[wu_wei0]

DID YOU JUST CALL ED A CAT? HOLY COW YODA, YOU'VE GOT CHUTZPAH!

Well, he thinks I'm a dood! ;)

[Lightstream]

DID YOU JUST CALL ED A CAT? HOLY COW YODA, YOU'VE GOT CHUTZPAH!

Permagrin is setting me up to get my @ss kicked :p

I called *YOU* & Sis a cat because you were referring to your bruisings from her.. so two chicks in a fight = cat fight :p

Although I saw that pic of your cat earlier and he looks waaaaaaaaaay too lazy to possibly even imagine the energy to fight anything http://pix.lightrefineries.org/img/crackup.gif

[wu_wei0]

Oh yeah, baby. Yer goin' down, dood.

It's what you're hopin and dreamin!

[tommykjensen]

Tommy here are two galleries. I would rather not have them linked to the thread because one is a private gallery but they are all shot with the 24-105 and the 5D (at iso's varying from 200 to 1600) in very BAD forest lighting...(the photos are varying in comp..some good, some not & they will probably bore you, but it's a wide spectrum of what you can expect with that combo in tough conditions).


Thanks I will check them out tomorrow as I am headed towards bed now. I have save dthe links so you can remove the links from your post if you don't want them here.

[Permagrin]

Permagrin is setting me up to get my @ss kicked :p

I called *YOU* & Sis a cat because you were referring to your bruisings from her.. so two chicks in a fight = cat fight :p

Although I saw that pic of your cat earlier and he looks waaaaaaaaaay too lazy to possibly even imagine the energy to fight anything http://pix.lightrefineries.org/img/crackup.gif

you should see the video I have of him and my other cat...they battle royal in the bathtub...whomp the heck out of each other....

one of them pads up to the other and says "meow, buddy, you, me, the bathtub, 5 min." and the next thing I know, it's a cage match...

[Permagrin]

Thanks I will check them out tomorrow as I am headed towards bed now. I have save dthe links so you can remove the links from your post if you don't want them here.

okay I will then. Hope they help.

[wu_wei0]

you should see the video I have of him and my other cat...they battle royal in the bathtub...whomp the heck out of each other....

one of them pads up to the other and says "meow, buddy, you, me, the bathtub, 5 min." and the next thing I know, it's a cage match...

Would love to see that!

[Lord_Malone]

DID YOU JUST CALL ED A CAT? HOLY COW YODA, YOU'VE GOT CHUTZPAH!

I'm only authorized one ass whuppin' per day. Lightstream will get his turn.

It's what you're hopin and dreamin!

I make my dreams a reality. You're about to get the ultimate SMACK DOWN!

[Permagrin]

It's what you're hopin and dreamin!

:lol: :lol: you can't help it if he's dreamin' about ya!

[Permagrin]

Would love to see that!

I have the video tape but my son has our video camera right now so I can't download it or I'd show you...it's SO funny!

[wu_wei0]

I'm only authorized one ass whuppin' per day. Lightstream will get his turn.



I make my dreams a reality. You're about to get the ultimate SMACK DOWN!

I don't mind giving my turn up to Yoda.:lol:

I'm more of a lover than a fighter anyway ;)

But, if think you're gonna take me, come on and give it a try.

[wu_wei0]

:lol: :lol: you can't help it if he's dreamin' about ya!

HE can't help it either.;):lol:

[Lord_Malone]

I'm more of a lover than a fighter anyway ;)

But, if think you're gonna take me, come on and give it a try.

More of a lover, eh? Well then I guess I'll just have to "take" you. ;)

I need something to eat. :(

[timbernet]

No posts in an hour - *gasp* - MOOOOO!!!

[saravrose]

Hi folks. I just started my immunizations this afternoon.. I don't like needles. and I was cutting it pretty close with the hepatitis A.. and I'm lucky that were not going into a yellow fever area so I was spared a couple of shots..

[wu_wei0]

More of a lover, eh? Well then I guess I'll just have to "take" you. ;)

I need something to eat. :(
;)

Missus not home yet? Surely there has to be somewhere yummy in your neck of the woods.

Gee, it is quiet in here.

Are you sore from your pokes, Sari?

[timbernet]

Hi folks. I just started my immunizations this afternoon.. I don't like needles. and I was cutting it pretty close with the hepatitis A.. and I'm lucky that were not going into a yellow fever area so I was spared a couple of shots..

OUCH! Number one reason why I was not interested in the Africa trip.... hurts too much (and snakes...)

[puddlepirate44]

I tried taking one with the phone camera, but it doesn't really show off the haircut. :(

*still awaiting freshly hair-cutted Claire pics*

There are lots of wild claims made about this, that or the other camera, lens or photographic accessory being totally superior to any other camera, lens or photographic accessory. You can usually tell who knows what they are talking about and who doesn't....not by their level of techno babble, but by their actual willingness to go out and take an image or two to use to prove or disprove the point. All you have to do is read the "worst (insert choice of tool here) ever" threads to find out who is knowledgeable and who is full of it up to their ears.

At least here in Tupperville, you can count on the regulars giving you a reasonable answer, generally backed up with some proof, even if it does involve a bit of @ss busting from the rest of the gang.

Personally, I'm still waiting the Lensbaby 4.0 IS version to come out in PMA.

[gjl711]

Hi folks. I just started my immunizations this afternoon.. I don't like needles. and I was cutting it pretty close with the hepatitis A.. and I'm lucky that were not going into a yellow fever area so I was spared a couple of shots.. I remember going through the GermBusters routine for a India trip. My arm ached, my butt ached, and I felt like crap after some of the shots. For India, it was a several week routine.

[Lord_Malone]

;)

Missus not home yet? Surely there has to be somewhere yummy in your neck of the woods.

Gee, it is quiet in here.

Are you sore from your pokes, Sari?


Sadly, I've been seperated from her for a month and a half. This is a desperate cry for help. :cry:

[saravrose]

;)

Missus not home yet? Surely there has to be somewhere yummy in your neck of the woods.

Gee, it is quiet in here.

Are you sore from your pokes, Sari?

just a little bit.. I'm not much of a needle person and the nurse practically rolled her eyes when i told her I forgot lunch... she left me in the little room lying down for about five minutes..

OUCH! Number one reason why I was not interested in the Africa trip.... hurts too much (and snakes...)

You won't be saying that in seven months when we all come back with our shots.. You'll be jealous!!:p

[aussieskier]

OUCH! Number one reason why I was not interested in the Africa trip.... hurts too much (and snakes...)
That ignores the fact that you can't afford it :). I would say that that probably reason number one (I know it is for me) closely followed by my fear of needles.

[puddlepirate44]

You won't be saying that in seven months when we all come back with our shots.. You'll be jealous!!:p

I'm not afraid of needles anymore. Not after boot camp. So I'm even more envious of your trip to Africa.

[T.D.]

Greetings Plastic Dish People.

I'm just here for a few minutes. Have a 7:00 meeting. Yuck!

Tommy, were you looking at low light shots with the 24-105. Here's my contribution (taken with the 30D:

http://hoyboy.smugmug.com/photos/113097638-L.jpg

[timbernet]

You won't be saying that in seven months when we all come back with our shots.. You'll be jealous!!:p

True true... Though in the world I think I would like Europe and New Zealand better...

That ignores the fact that you can't afford it :). I would say that that probably reason number one (I know it is for me) closely followed by my fear of needles.

I could have afforded it... it would have been a big strech but it could have happend...

[timbernet]

Greetings Plastic Dish People.

I'm just here for a few minutes. Have a 7:00 meeting. Yuck!

Tommy, were you looking at low light shots with the 24-105. Here's my contribution (taken with the 30D:



Was that handheld or tripod?

[saravrose]

I'm not afraid of needles anymore. Not after boot camp. So I'm even more envious of your trip to Africa.

I know you are.. :D :cool: .. I was nervous, really nervous. She started asking me about my pictures that i'm planning on taking and everybody traveling with me.. (I left out the internet friends part)..

[saravrose]

hi Chris!! really nice shot.

[T.D.]

Was that handheld or tripod?

Tripod all the way. It was a 10 second exposure.

hi Chris!! really nice shot.

Thanks!

[ibdb]

I got over my doctor needle fear with my wife's first pregnancy. There's something about trying to be a calming influence that made the difference.

Now dentist needles are a whole 'nother story. . . :eek:

[Belmondo]

I got over my doctor needle fear with my wife's first pregnancy. There's something about trying to be a calming influence that made the difference.

Now dentist needles are a whole 'nother story. . . :eek:I've been nursing a loose filling for the last few days. I finally got an appointment with my dentist Thursday morning. I'm actually looking forward to getting it fixed so I can go back to eating normally again.

[T.D.]

I've been nursing a loose filling for the last few days. I finally got an appointment with my dentist Thursday morning. I'm actually looking forward to getting it fixed so I can go back to eating normally again.

Boss, have you been relegated to a diet of microwaved chicken for the past few days? I understand that's pretty easy on the teeth.

There are worse things, I suppose....

[saravrose]

It's okay the whole needle thing is going to be worth it.. And I sure as heck don't want to go down there without the shots...

[gjl711]

Having had my front teeth broken as a kid and having to go through the whole cap thing I have a life long fear of dentists and dental pain. In fact, the one scene in The Marathon Man still completely freaks me out especially since it was his front teeth that got drilled.

[saravrose]

my bosses daughters just showed up..


with girl scout cookies... I forgot about those.. hmmm... cookies.

[ibdb]

When I was growing up, the dentist used to come out of the back to reassure my parents that, not only was I fine, but that they hadn't even started to do anything to me yet, let alone anything that might justify my rather audible reaction. :oops: My parents had grown up with the dentist, so we even got extra special treatment. They started to schedule me and my brother our appointments before they opened to the general public so as not to scare their other patients. :oops:

Of course, they did have a hygenist my parents nicknamed "Helga the Horrible" in appreciation of her rather rough approach to her work. ;)

[Belmondo]

Boss, have you been relegated to a diet of microwaved chicken for the past few days? I understand that's pretty easy on the teeth.

There are worse things, I suppose....Are you kidding? Microwaved chicken has the same consistency as vulcanized rubber. I'm actually okay eating as long as I stay off my bottom front teeth.

[puddlepirate44]

Greetings Plastic Dish People.

I'm just here for a few minutes. Have a 7:00 meeting. Yuck!

Tommy, were you looking at low light shots with the 24-105. Here's my contribution (taken with the 30D:

Where is that, Chris?

[aussieskier]

I'm not afraid of needles anymore. Not after boot camp.
Thats funny my ROTC buddy has been through Basic and AIT and still HATES needles.

[wu_wei0]

OUCH! all the dentist tales.

I always hated the dentist. The one I had as a child not only bound my arms but slapped me for hollering- more than once. Never could convince my mom (she was deaf and he told her the red and swelling were from the work. Back then Drs and Dentist were gods.

I'm starting to feel today's work. Hope I have something more than tylenol. Supposed to be eating soft foods and for once in more than a week, I don't want ice cream. Guess it is no fun when it is ok to eat it. :lol:

[timbernet]

my bosses daughters just showed up..


with girl scout cookies... I forgot about those.. hmmm... cookies.


mmmm, Tagalongs, Thin Mints, Samoas (spelling?), and the crustly little peanut butter filled cookies... what are they? do-se-dos? something like that... YUMMY!!!!!!

[T.D.]

Where is that, Chris?

That's shot from the patio of my hotel room at Port Gardner, Everett, Washington.

[saravrose]

mmmm, Tagalongs, Thin Mints, Samoas (spelling?), and the crustly little peanut butter filled cookies... what are they? do-se-dos? something like that... YUMMY!!!!!!

tagalongs are the peanutbutter ones. I have two boxes.. the samoas are going to be here in a few days.. (two daughters therefore two orders for cookies).. But, now i'm going to be stuck with four boxes of cookies... jeez I don't need four boxes of cookies... :confused:

[puddlepirate44]

OUCH! all the dentist tales.

I always hated the dentist. The one I had as a child not only bound my arms but slapped me for hollering- more than once. Never could convince my mom (she was deaf and he told her the red and swelling were from the work. Back then Drs and Dentist were gods.

I'm starting to feel today's work. Hope I have something more than tylenol. Supposed to be eating soft foods and for once in more than a week, I don't want ice cream. Guess it is no fun when it is ok to eat it. :lol:

:shock: That's appalling, Wu!

I broke the dentist's chair once. He was drilling out a cavity for a filling, and he hit a nerve. I was holding onto the armrests when he hit it. I clench, and broke the armrests clean off of the chair. Scared him as much as it scared me. He was more careful after that.

[T.D.]

Fellow Oregonians (PermaPuddle, Boring Boys, etc) I can't believe you are on here and not watching STORMWATCH 2007! The snow is on the way (all quarter inch of it) :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Okay, I'm off to UPS to pick up my Arca-Swiss & Wimberly!!! And then to my meeting. See you all later.

[aussieskier]

And I sure as heck don't want to go down there without the shots...
Yes that would be a very very bad idea, if I had the money I could probably buckle down to go and get the shots so that I could go on an amazing trip.

[saravrose]

OUCH! all the dentist tales.

I always hated the dentist. The one I had as a child not only bound my arms but slapped me for hollering- more than once. Never could convince my mom (she was deaf and he told her the red and swelling were from the work. Back then Drs and Dentist were gods.

I'm starting to feel today's work. Hope I have something more than tylenol. Supposed to be eating soft foods and for once in more than a week, I don't want ice cream. Guess it is no fun when it is ok to eat it. :lol:

I skip the dentist. constantly.. I've told myself that I will absolutely go for a cleaning before I leave for Africa.... But, everytime I go they remind me about getting my wisdom teeth removed.. and I don't want to. So, my teeth are an itty bit more crooked than they were a few years ago... It's not such a big deal... right?....

sari

[puddlepirate44]

I skip the dentist. constantly.. I've told myself that I will absolutely go for a cleaning before I leave for Africa.... But, everytime I go they remind me about getting my wisdom teeth removed.. and I don't want to. So, my teeth are an itty bit more crooked than they were a few years ago... It's not such a big deal... right?....

sari

The dentist looked inside my mouth after the wisdom teeth came in. He was wondering if he should pull them. He looked, then said, "Ahh, you got LOTS of room in there. No need to pull them out!"

I didn't know how to take that.... :confused: :rolleyes:

[saravrose]

Fellow Oregonians (PermaPuddle, Boring Boys, etc) I can't believe you are on here and not watching STORMWATCH 2007! The snow is on the way (all quarter inch of it) :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Okay, I'm off to UPS to pick up my Arca-Swiss & Wimberly!!! And then to my meeting. See you all later.

So, my buddy had to sweep off my car yesterday.. and then he threw the only broom I have in the snowbank in front of my apartment. I had to get my snowshoes to get it... we've had about a foot and a half dropped on us in the last week and it's going to keep going for another five days!!..

[DWilkin]

I gave up using novacaine many years ago. There really isn't that much discomfort. I think it was the noise and the smell of cooking tooth that used to be most troubling, that and the numb lips and drooling for several hours afterward. At least now, when I leave the dentist's office, it is over. Isn't this a fun subject?!!

[gjl711]

All this talk about drilling and scraping of teeth is just making me shiver....

[wu_wei0]

:shock: That's appalling, Wu!

I broke the dentist's chair once. He was drilling out a cavity for a filling, and he hit a nerve. I was holding onto the armrests when he hit it. I clench, and broke the armrests clean off of the chair. Scared him as much as it scared me. He was more careful after that.

I wanted to rip the arms off the chair today and beat the dentist with them. Doing a root canal and telling me I should be deadened. I can full well tell when I am in pain! He just wouldn't believe me til I came up out of the chair and told him he had to stop. Finally shot me some more and went back to work but he was a jerk afterwards. I'm going to be really bruised in the morning.

[saravrose]

I gave up using novacaine many years ago. There really isn't that much discomfort. I think it was the noise and the smell of cooking tooth that used to be most troubling, that and the numb lips and drooling for several hours afterward. At least now, when I leave the dentist's office, it is over. Isn't this a fun subject?!!

yes. and you are definately helping me to talk myself into actually going to the dang dentist... :rolleyes: .. Why do we have to go?? I mean is it one of those things because your mom tells you to that it gets in your head and you just KNOW it has to be done?...

[Lord_Malone]

Maybe I ought to see a dentist.

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1637/lord03000td.jpg

[puddlepirate44]

I wanted to rip the arms off the chair today and beat the dentist with them. Doing a root canal and telling me I should be deadened. I can full well tell when I am in pain! He just wouldn't believe me til I came up out of the chair and told him he had to stop. Finally shot me some more and went back to work but he was a jerk afterwards. I'm going to be really bruised in the morning.

:(

You want dat I should come over and beat dis guy? Does ya? For you, I will do dis ting. You're famly. I will do dis, for famly.

[aussieskier]

Well bailey was talking to me today and said she was looking at pretty pictures on POTN and accidentally landed in here...
"Bailey:so i decided to get online and look at pretty pictures and i accidently cliked on the fourm thingy that you always talk on and it was at some random number and some lady doesnt konw how to cook pasta im so confused how do you not know how to cook noodles
(06:19:17 PM) Riley: hahahaha
(06:20:06 PM) Bailey: and then she said that she didnt understand and soemone told her to cook them in the microwave and everyone was like no you cant do taht. but why cant you cook noodles in the microwave?"

[puddlepirate44]

Maybe I ought to see a dentist.



No, you look good. Really.

[saravrose]

Well bailey was talking to me today and said she was looking at pretty pictures on POTN and accidentally landed in here...
"Bailey:so i decided to get online and look at pretty pictures and i accidently cliked on the fourm thingy that you always talk on and it was at some random number and some lady doesnt konw how to cook pasta im so confused how do you not know how to cook noodles
(06:19:17 PM) Riley: hahahaha
(06:20:06 PM) Bailey: and then she said that she didnt understand and soemone told her to cook them in the microwave and everyone was like no you cant do taht. but why cant you cook noodles in the microwave?"

:o :o :o ... who's bailey?

[MDJAK]

Can someone please sum up the past 25,331 posts for me? I think I could read War and Peace quicker.

me

[aussieskier]

Fellow Oregonians (PermaPuddle, Boring Boys, etc) I can't believe you are on here and not watching STORMWATCH 2007! The snow is on the way (all quarter inch of it) :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Okay, I'm off to UPS to pick up my Arca-Swiss & Wimberly!!! And then to my meeting. See you all later.

Oh yea I know it obvious we are all going to die!

I don't need to pay attention there can be 6 inchs of snow on campus, and every other college in the area closed and my school will stay open, so I could care less.

[aussieskier]

:o :o :o ... who's bailey?
Sorry sari I forgot you weren't around when my girlfriend introduced herself... Don't feel bad... I never know when pasta is done.

[saravrose]

okay y'all.. I have truly lost my monopod so what do y'all think of this one?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=397&A=details&Q=&sku=373784&is=REG&addedTroughType=categoryNavigation

[saravrose]

Oh yea I know it obvious we are all going to die!

I don't need to pay attention there can be 6 inchs of snow on campus, and every other college in the area closed and my school will stay open, so I could care less.


six inches.. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: ... I have feet of snow.. Boy am I sick of snow. :evil:

[saravrose]

or this one?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=397&A=details&Q=&sku=434622&is=REG&addedTroughType=categoryNavigation

[puddlepirate44]

okay y'all.. I have truly lost my monopod so what do y'all think of this one?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=397&A=details&Q=&sku=373784&is=REG&addedTroughType=categoryNavigation

I like it, Sari. Is there, perhaps, a mono with a ball head within your price range? That might be more adventageous.....

[Permagrin]

Can someone please sum up the past 25,331 posts for me? I think I could read War and Peace quicker.

me

Nope. One of the rules around here is that you have to read ALL the posts...then do a report on them...after you FULLY comprehend what they've said, then you come back and get whooped by Lord Malone.

[saravrose]

I like it, Sari. Is there, perhaps, a mono with a ball head within your price range? That might be more adventageous.....

it's not really a price range I just don't need to go crazy.. there's other stuff to spend the money on... ;)

[puddlepirate44]

or this one?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=397&A=details&Q=&sku=434622&is=REG&addedTroughType=categoryNavigation

much better. The ball head is much easier with a monopod. Well, much easier period, but with a mono, you don't have the luxury of playing around with the adjustment paddles of a non ball head.

[saravrose]

or this?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=397&A=details&Q=&sku=331615&is=REG&addedTroughType=categoryNavigation

[Permagrin]

Wait, sari, have you see this?
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=Search&A=details&Q=&sku=5491&is=REG&addedTroughType=search

[Permagrin]

I just ordered it for Puddle's monopod. Wool uses it and it's supposed to work like a ball head.

[saravrose]

Wait, sari, have you see this?
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=Search&A=details&Q=&sku=5491&is=REG&addedTroughType=search

will that work on a monopod and tripod?

[puddlepirate44]

will that work on a monopod and tripod?

I'm getting it for the monopod.

[Permagrin]

will that work on a monopod and tripod?

I don't know. I bought it for his monopod because Wool told me it would work on it. It hasn't come yet.

[puddlepirate44]

It'll work. You have to be sure you have the right batteries, though, otherwise the gimbals won't work quite right.

[wu_wei0]

:(

You want dat I should come over and beat dis guy? Does ya? For you, I will do dis ting. You're famly. I will do dis, for famly.

You can come help me. I want some of the pleasure for myself. We'll just add him to the list.:)

[puddlepirate44]

You can come help me. I want some of the pleasure for myself. We'll just add him to the list.:)

You have a list? :shock: Um.... Am... am I on this list?

[wu_wei0]

Maybe I ought to see a dentist.

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1637/lord03000td.jpg
Hey- haven't we seen those teeth before?