Red-Ringed Tupperware Party with (ineffective) Tin Foil Hats

[Lightstream]

Oh, and Lightstream, thanks for the comments re: the bird shots. I did everything wrong (no aiservo), didn't try to shoot them at all and viola...there they are :lol:

The birds were most likely at infinity. Beyond a certain distance, everything is considered 'infinity', so one-shot would work - I nail the big metal birds which fly very high, that way :)

AI Servo is good when the focal point is constantly changing between the lens minimum focus distance (MFD) and infinity.

300 bucks seems rather pricey for a flashlight....it better fetch me a beer and have my slippers waiting at the door for that kind of money.

wow that's pretty spendy!

I knew it :p

That 70-200/2.8 ISL had better have a chick waiting in bed for me for the amount I'm paying!

(it's all relative.. some of us are enthusiasts and want the stuff that'll do what nothing else can - six level variable power with digital regulation for constant output (doesn't dim as the batteries weaken), mmm..)

It adds up to a $600 difference out here in the sticks. Imagine the amount of uhh...love....you could buy.... without the need to stress out or find reasons to ask people out!

OK, better not drift into MA-18 territory any more or we will get smacked ;)

[Permagrin]

I have been saving for the photographer fofr Josh's wedding. . . so hypothetically, how much squealing can I buy for what amount?

hypothetically, I'm still waiting for Wool to raise his "hush money offer" before I give you a quote...

[Lightstream]

You know...spend $29 bucks at target, use the rest to buy the 85. And coffee.

(husband says surefire makes good flashlights...I say, just "curse the darkness" and go with cheap)

Let's see.....photog stumbling around Great Ocean Road in pitch darkness with tripod and 5D/17-40 combo... :D One wrong step and I might get to photograph the place for eternity, from above ;)

Actually between the 85 and the U2, it would be the U2. It really would get used far more often than the 85. BTW I was an early adopter - mine is from the first production run. :D

[Woolburr]

I'll bring my own hat next time. And I can leave it on

btw- do you know the song?



I have been saving for the photographer fofr Josh's wedding. . . so hypothetically, how much squealing can I buy for what amount?

I think I probably don't know the song....

[wu_wei0]

geez. I am freezing! Got my favorite sweats, a snuggly shirt, my favorite ratty angora sweater and socks on. Heat's running and I am shivering. I may have to hit the bed just to get warm.

[Lightstream]

I'm roasting. It's 70 here and feels like 90 thanks to the ultra-strong sun.

[Woolburr]

Let's see.....photog stumbling around Great Ocean Road in pitch darkness with tripod and 5D/17-40 combo... :D One wrong step and I might get to photograph the place for eternity, from above ;)

Actually between the 85 and the U2, it would be the U2. It really would get used far more often than the 85. BTW I was an early adopter - mine is from the first production run. :D

I'd pay $250 for front row seats to U2....;)

[Woolburr]

geez. I am freezing! Got my favorite sweats, a snuggly shirt, my favorite ratty angora sweater and socks on. Heat's running and I am shivering. I may have to hit the bed just to get warm.

I had to hit the store today...all my sweatshirts seem to have evaporated....250 bucks later...I can be warm for a few days...40 bucks for a sweatshirt is absurd...but when you seek odd sizes...I guess you have to pay a price.

[Permagrin]

...but when you seek odd sizes...I guess you have to pay a price.

One arm longer than the other?

[Woolburr]

One arm longer than the other?

Quasimodo is my middle name.

[Permagrin]

geez. I am freezing! Got my favorite sweats, a snuggly shirt, my favorite ratty angora sweater and socks on. Heat's running and I am shivering. I may have to hit the bed just to get warm.

It's freezing here too. I was frozen from the shoot and we keep our heat at 62 at night. so I'm IN BED! Husband is a natural heater so that's nice.

[Lightstream]

I'd pay $250 for front row seats to U2....;)


It's all relative like I said. Who needs all of this crappy overpriced heavy DSLR junk? I mean, why can't I buy a Panasonic 12X zoom and get 400mm as well? and it's so small.. wear a big jacket and you can almost pocket it.. and it has a Leica lens...

:p

[Permagrin]

Quasimodo is my middle name.

Wool Quasimodo Danburr. I like it. Maybe Wu's got a song to fit that too!


btw Wu, did that mean you were going to leave us and go to bed?

[Permagrin]

It's all relative like I said. Who needs all of this crappy overpriced heavy DSLR junk? I mean, why can't I buy a Panasonic 12X zoom and get 400mm as well? and it's so small.. wear a big jacket and you can almost pocket it.. and it has a Leica lens...

:p

YEAH and the NOISE is horrible. I had the DMC-TZ1 w/a Leica lens and the noise was outrageous...and it's supposed to be one of their better models.

[Woolburr]

It's freezing here too. I was frozen from the shoot and we keep our heat at 62 at night. so I'm IN BED! Husband is a natural heater so that's nice.

The joys of wireless laptops....62? Are you running a meat locker? The city morgue isn't that cold....yikes. I can see a hotel room is in the must column.

[Permagrin]

The joys of wireless laptops....62? Are you running a meat locker? The city morgue isn't that cold....yikes. I can see a hotel room is in the must column.

We turn up the heat when guests are here...but neither of us likes to sleep warm.

(we did just buy half a pig...does that qualify for a meat locker?)

[wu_wei0]

btw Wu, did that mean you were going to leave us and go to bed?
not sure yet. I miss having a functional laptop. Playing on the bed is better than this chair. Plus there are blankets!

I own one hoodie. If I hadn't worn it yesterday I'd have it on now. I could use another layer of pants too. These are the heavy yummy ones but tonight I am just freezing. lastnight I was too warm. I think the heat is up all the way to 66. I set it about there for this time of nioght. usually comfy enough

[Woolburr]

We turn up the heat when guests are here...but neither of us likes to sleep warm.

(we did just buy half a pig...does that qualify for a meat locker?)

I drop mine back to 66 at night...that is cool enough for me...still need flannel sheets and two comforters to keep my teeth from chattering.

[Woolburr]

not sure yet. I miss having a functional laptop. Playing on the bed is better than this chair. Plus there are blankets!

I own one hoodie. If I hadn't worn it yesterday I'd have it on now. I could use another layer of pants too. These are the heavy yummy ones but tonight I am just freezing. lastnight I was too warm. I think the heat is up all the way to 66. I set it about there for this time of nioght. usually comfy enough

I probably should just keep my mouth shut...huh?;)

[wu_wei0]

Usually I figure I can find some way to warm up so 66 is fine but tonight it just isn't working for me.

[wu_wei0]

I probably should just keep my mouth shut...huh?;)

about what?

YOu know, I heard they used to warm bricks by the fire and wrap them in cloth to tuck in bed to warm it up.

[Permagrin]

not sure yet. I miss having a functional laptop. Playing on the bed is better than this chair. Plus there are blankets!

I own one hoodie. If I hadn't worn it yesterday I'd have it on now. I could use another layer of pants too. These are the heavy yummy ones but tonight I am just freezing. lastnight I was too warm. I think the heat is up all the way to 66. I set it about there for this time of nioght. usually comfy enough

Flannels for me. Love them :) And yes, functional laptops are what makes my evening POTN visits possible because when the tempurpedic calls, I MUST answer :)

I drop mine back to 66 at night...that is cool enough for me...still need flannel sheets and two comforters to keep my teeth from chattering.

Well, my Dan is rather a furnace...if we keep the heat up and shut the door, it's like an oven in here :lol: :lol:

[Woolburr]

about what?

YOu know, I heard they used to warm bricks by the fire and wrap them in cloth to tuck in bed to warm it up.

The difference between last night and tonight....:lol:

And yes they did...warm bricks or stones....very nice idea.

[Lightstream]

YEAH and the NOISE is horrible. I had the DMC-TZ1 w/a Leica lens and the noise was outrageous...and it's supposed to be one of their better models.

:p

Photogs: "Who in their right mind would pay so much for a light"

Lights community: "Who in their right mind would pay so much for a camera?"

Nuts who work both sides: "I'm broke because I paid for the light and the camera"

:mrgreen:

The joys of wireless laptops....62? Are you running a meat locker? The city morgue isn't that cold....yikes. I can see a hotel room is in the must column.

I drop mine back to 66 at night...that is cool enough for me...still need flannel sheets and two comforters to keep my teeth from chattering.

I don't heat my place at night. The secret is all in the electric blanket and the quilts :p

I am not subject to winters as harsh as yours, but here it drops to 0C at night, and I still don't turn the heating on.

I like my ambient room temp to be around 60-65 when working...

[Permagrin]

The difference between last night and tonight....:lol:

And yes they did...warm bricks or stones....very nice idea.

warm bricks? Are we talking about two night's ago...warm bricks or today's?

[wu_wei0]

The difference between last night and tonight....:lol:

And yes they did...warm bricks or stones....very nice idea.
I went to be early last night but was up often. There was no one to play with when I was awake. I missed all the photo fun. but I was warm

[Woolburr]

Flannels for me. Love them :) And yes, functional laptops are what makes my evening POTN visits possible because when the tempurpedic calls, I MUST answer :)



Well, my Dan is rather a furnace...if we keep the heat up and shut the door, it's like an oven in here :lol: :lol:

I am thinking I should have gotten the adjustable version...I would probably be in bed now too if I had one.

[Lightstream]

Playing on the bed is better than this chair.

I probably should just keep my mouth shut...huh?;)

Well, my Dan is rather a furnace...if we keep the heat up and shut the door, it's like an oven in here :lol: :lol:


Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.................

Lots of bed action going on, what would people think if they saw all of this?


Hate laptops. Need one for work. Gets pitched to one side when I get home and I use the Belmondo Method(tm) - comfortable armchair and dual 19"s on the desktop. Them nuts need no auxiliary heating.

[wu_wei0]

warm bricks? Are we talking about last night's warm bricks or today's?
were ther bricks last night? I missed them? Or was that sunday? The days are running together for me.

[Woolburr]

I went to be early last night but was up often. There was no one to play with when I was awake. I missed all the photo fun. but I was warm

And I only had to empty my PM files 3 times....hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. ;)

[saravrose]

I am finally home.. By the way guys.. explain to me why the heck men on vacation always think that it's a prerequisite to hit on the bartender?... truly.... why?.. and why can't they come up with a better line than.. what time are you off work?.. or inviting you to go sit in the hot tub?... okay.. rant over. what did I miss?..

sari

[Permagrin]

I am thinking I should have gotten the adjustable version...I would probably be in bed now too if I had one.

You know, we didn't either...and were sorry. So I bought several of their pillows and w/a feather pillow as a base, I'm propped quite nicely :)

though, I'm going to leave you all now because the hot bath is calling.

I'm a slave to my comforts apparently.....

[Permagrin]

were ther bricks last night? I missed them? Or was that sunday? The days are running together for me.

I meant Sunday's bricks...I doubt I'll ever forget the Sunday brick talks :lol: :lol:

[Permagrin]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.................

Lots of bed action going on, what would people think if they saw all of this?


Hate laptops. Need one for work. Gets pitched to one side when I get home and I use the Belmondo Method(tm) - comfortable armchair and dual 19"s on the desktop. Them nuts need no auxiliary heating.

YOU KNOW, all those quotes you put together do look really bad....:lol: :lol:

[Woolburr]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.................

Lots of bed action going on, what would people think if they saw all of this?


Hate laptops. Need one for work. Gets pitched to one side when I get home and I use the Belmondo Method(tm) - comfortable armchair and dual 19"s on the desktop. Them nuts need no auxiliary heating.

You just never know what people will think...Claire will clue us in before too long...almost time for her daily trek to the office.

I love my laptop...17" brightscreen super xga....dang near as good as my desktop.

[wu_wei0]

And I only had to empty my PM files 3 times....hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. ;)
That was last night? I emptied my PM box about that many times one day recently.;);) I'm having feelings of lasagna dinner again- I don't remember anything other than getting up and finding pages of sports photos and no input from me. was I dreaming?
Geez I am tired. I don't remember much since I got back early from teaching.

[saravrose]

is everyone going to sleep!!.. no!!! I just got here... somebody stay awake and talk to me.. i'm bored. and had an annoying night jeez I hate not being able to speak..

sari

[Woolburr]

I am finally home.. By the way guys.. explain to me why the heck men on vacation always think that it's a prerequisite to hit on the bartender?... truly.... why?.. and why can't they come up with a better line than.. what time are you off work?.. or inviting you to go sit in the hot tub?... okay.. rant over. what did I miss?..

sari

You aren't going to like it here any better...but at least it is a group of us headed for the hot tub. :lol:

[wu_wei0]

I am finally home.. By the way guys.. explain to me why the heck men on vacation always think that it's a prerequisite to hit on the bartender?... truly.... why?.. and why can't they come up with a better line than.. what time are you off work?.. or inviting you to go sit in the hot tub?... okay.. rant over. what did I miss?..

sari
Cute young bartenders look like easy pickin's. Right now, a hot tub sounds nice, but probably wouldn't appreciate an offer from one of your vacationing customers.

[wu_wei0]

You aren't going to like it here any better...but at least it is a group of us headed for the hot tub. :lol:
I have to share the brick the beer and the moon with a group?
Oh well, it'll be warm, anyway. and there will be beer.

[Woolburr]

That was last night? I emptied my PM box about that many times one day recently.;);) I'm having feelings of lasagna dinner again- I don't remember anything other than getting up and finding pages of sports photos and no input from me. was I dreaming?
Geez I am tired. I don't remember much since I got back early from teaching.

No...I think that was Sunday night....last night was Liza and I trading sports shots...the Claire shared some too. Not a lot of mystery messages.

[Woolburr]

is everyone going to sleep!!.. no!!! I just got here... somebody stay awake and talk to me.. i'm bored. and had an annoying night jeez I hate not being able to speak..

sari

We will talk to you....finger talk is almost better than no talk.

[Woolburr]

I have to share the brick the beer and the moon with a group?
Oh well, it'll be warm, anyway. and there will be beer.

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....don't tell anyone...but there is more than one hot tub. The b, b, and m is reserved.

[saravrose]

You aren't going to like it here any better...but at least it is a group of us headed for the hot tub. :lol:

LOL... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: .. I truly wish that somebody would be original just for my own entertainment... my goodness i'm sick of the same old crap.. that ohhh soo cute wink.. or those cute little double talk lines that wouldn't accomplish anything even if I would respond (which I won't).. or trying to wait everyone else out at the bar which makes everyone think that the bar is still open which just keeps me stuck there for an extra hour... :evil: .. and to make it worse i'm halfway whispering from laringitis and get told that's sexy!!.. seriously I have no voice i'm croaking like a frog and they think it's sexy... my god maybe I shouldn't speak at all.. ever... lets see how great that would go over.... :rolleyes: ..

sari

[Lightstream]

YOU KNOW, all those quotes you put together do look really bad....:lol: :lol:

Creative misinterpretation. :p

You just never know what people will think...Claire will clue us in before too long...almost time for her daily trek to the office.

I love my laptop...17" brightscreen super xga....dang near as good as my desktop.


14" on mine. Learned never to trust it. Once thought that both 350D, 10-22, 17-85 and photog were all malfunctioning on vacation. Went home, looked at Viewsonic VP171, suddenly everything is perfect. Came to the conclusion it is neither camera nor operator at fault....

[wu_wei0]

No...I think that was Sunday night....last night was Liza and I trading sports shots...the Claire shared some too. Not a lot of mystery messages.
thank goodness. I thought I was losing my mind.

We will talk to you....finger talk is almost better than no talk.
sari, beare- he is a big tease. :)
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....don't tell anyone...but there is more than one hot tub. The b, b, and m is reserved.
That is a much better scenario.

[Woolburr]

Some men are pigs...some don't know they are being inconsiderate....and some are just clueless. Take your pick.

[saravrose]

We will talk to you....finger talk is almost better than no talk.

very true. this night just wouldn't end... it was like a bad song.... just kept going and going... people were aggravating me tonight.. the crazy guy who wanted his entire dinner switched around.. so I get attitude from the Chefs for messing with their recipes too much and I sold a stupid amount of White zinfadel.. and the obnoxious guy who was hitting on me... jeez i'm glad to be home.. I'm gonna watch Rent for awhile before I put my laundry away..

sari

[wu_wei0]

Some men are pigs...some don't know they are being inconsiderate....and some are just clueless. Take your pick.
there's only three kinds?

Is the hot tub warm yet?

[Woolburr]

thank goodness. I thought I was losing my mind.


sari, beare- he is a big tease. :)

That is a much better scenario.

I thought you would like that. See...I can do the right thing occasionally.

Hot tub is toasty.

[wu_wei0]

very true. this night just wouldn't end... it was like a bad song.... just kept going and going... people were aggravating me tonight.. the crazy guy who wanted his entire dinner switched around.. so I get attitude from the Chefs for messing with their recipes too much and I sold a stupid amount of White zinfadel.. and the obnoxious guy who was hitting on me... jeez i'm glad to be home.. I'm gonna watch Rent for awhile before I put my laundry away..

sari
Sounds like a horrid day. But you're home now family will be nice to you.

[Woolburr]

there's only three kinds?

Is the hot tub warm yet?

Only 3 kinds that hang in bars...and the operative word being hang.

[saravrose]

I need a vacation. Hey my sister is coming home.. have I mentioned that yet?.. I miss her sometimes.. well most of the time. she's going to come up and stay with me for a couple of days. Let's see what kind of trouble she can get herself into in my one horse town.. I know she'll come up with something. thank goodness I don't have roomates the last time she stayed with me she came pretty dang close to getting me kicked out of my house..

sari

[wu_wei0]

I thought you would like that. See...I can do the right thing occasionally.

Hot tub is toasty.

Good, gooder and even more gooder!;)

I never doubted that

[wu_wei0]

I need a vacation. Hey my sister is coming home.. have I mentioned that yet?.. I miss her sometimes.. well most of the time. she's going to come up and stay with me for a couple of days. Let's see what kind of trouble she can get herself into in my one horse town.. I know she'll come up with something. thank goodness I don't have roomates the last time she stayed with me she came pretty dang close to getting me kicked out of my house..

sari
sounds like you are in for a fun time. :)

[Woolburr]

I need a vacation. Hey my sister is coming home.. have I mentioned that yet?.. I miss her sometimes.. well most of the time. she's going to come up and stay with me for a couple of days. Let's see what kind of trouble she can get herself into in my one horse town.. I know she'll come up with something. thank goodness I don't have roomates the last time she stayed with me she came pretty dang close to getting me kicked out of my house..

sari

You did mention she was coming to visit...have you warned everyone there?

[Woolburr]

Good, gooder and even more gooder!;)

I never doubted that

Ta Da!!! :cool: :cool: :cool:

[wu_wei0]

Ta Da!!! :cool: :cool: :cool:

ROFLMBO! You'll have to ask me sometime what ta da!! means in my house.

hmm permie never got back with me about how much of a bribe she needed to "squeal"

[Lightstream]

Just got a note that said I have a signature-required package...hmmm.. had trouble thinking of what package it was, since I wasn't expecting anything.

Then I remembered.. 724 ISL tripod collar.

mmmm.... will swing by tomorrow at lunchtime and pick it up.

[saravrose]

sounds like you are in for a fun time. :)

Yep. we'll have fun or she'll get bored in four hours and demand to be taken back to boise.. somehow I don't think she's gonna be too thrilled with going hiking with snow shoes or the ice skating and the Yacht club probably won't impress little miss Manhattan... now i'm managing to make myself nervous... she'll be fine.. yeah... she'll be great.. how much damage can she do?.. oh jeez I hope the boys don't stop by while she's here... obnoxious thing about your twin she knows everything and has no problem sharing every cute little story.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :o :o

sari

[Woolburr]

Gonna use that for a paperweight Yoda?

[saravrose]

wool love your new sig... cracks me up!!!

sari

[Woolburr]

ROFLMBO! You'll have to ask me sometime what ta da!! means in my house.

hmm permie never got back with me about how much of a bribe she needed to "squeal"

Better write that down...my memory is horrific...hehehe :lol:

[Lightstream]

Gonna use that for a paperweight Yoda?


Of course not!

... I'll use the 70-200/2.8 ISL you wanted to give me, since my large and heavy zooms spend most of their time sitting at home :)

[Woolburr]

wool love your new sig... cracks me up!!!

sari

That was the whole general idea...share the laughs!!!

[wu_wei0]

Yep. we'll have fun or she'll get bored in four hours and demand to be taken back to boise.. somehow I don't think she's gonna be too thrilled with going hiking with snow shoes or the ice skating and the Yacht club probably won't impress little miss Manhattan... now i'm managing to make myself nervous... she'll be fine.. yeah... she'll be great.. how much damage can she do?.. oh jeez I hope the boys don't stop by while she's here... obnoxious thing about your twin she knows everything and has no problem sharing every cute little story.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :o :o

sari

Sounds like we need to meet her. ;)
Family is good at that- and if they don't have cute little stories, they aren't above making them up!:lol:

I think I will go climb between those warm blankets and see how long I can stay there this time. have a good night, all. Likely be back in a bit, but maybe I'll meet up with Hypnos while I'm in thre.

[wu_wei0]

Better write that down...my memory is horrific...hehehe :lol:
Make a note, then. We may both need it. :)


moooo all.

[Woolburr]

Doing curls with 70-200 2.8 IS and the 100-400 is great weight training.

[wu_wei0]

Doing curls with 70-200 2.8 IS and the 100-400 is great weight training.
Guess that's what Permie needed to do, huh?

[Woolburr]

Sounds like we need to meet her. ;)
Family is good at that- and if they don't have cute little stories, they aren't above making them up!:lol:

I think I will go climb between those warm blankets and see how long I can stay there this time. have a good night, all. Likely be back in a bit, but maybe I'll meet up with Hypnos while I'm in thre.

Nite Wu...happy dreams. Moooooooooooooo

note made

[saravrose]

hehe.. non of my lenses are heavy enough to use as paperweights... feeling slightly left out..

sari

[Lightstream]

Doing curls with 70-200 2.8 IS and the 100-400 is great weight training.


Yes it is. Put that on a 1D and you have an excellent combo. Usually the Sigma 70-200/2.8 (nearly same weight as Canon classic version without IS) is paired to that camera.

I DO notice a very visible difference in bicep size after extended few-hours-of-handholding every weekend... no kidding. I try to run one photo op each weekend at the very least.

I don't actually mind the weight if I am using and shooting with the lens. What I REALLY mind is carrying bag weight for hours. One shoot.. had the 1D/70-200 on me, standing for six hours.. only then did it get heavy. However, the bag gets heavy a lot earlier than that.

[Lightstream]

hehe.. non of my lenses are heavy enough to use as paperweights... feeling slightly left out..

sari

Don't.. you have a much lighter, less back-breaking bag that enables you to walk further and see more sights :) No kidding the BEST part of the XT is the weight...or lack of it! Explains why I still have mine.

Besides.. a lens pulling duty as a paperweight is not fulfilling its potential. The 50/1.8 drew a desk job, but was too light and eventually ended up being sold. Wonder if it is at its new home too.

300/4 ISL left yesterday. Should be in transit to the next state already.

[saravrose]

my bag manages to be akward and heavy.. but my aunt has asked to buy me my next one.. I just need to figure out what I want...

sari

[liza]

geez. I am freezing! Got my favorite sweats, a snuggly shirt, my favorite ratty angora sweater and socks on. Heat's running and I am shivering. I may have to hit the bed just to get warm.

It's freezing here too. I was frozen from the shoot and we keep our heat at 62 at night. so I'm IN BED! Husband is a natural heater so that's nice.

I drop mine back to 66 at night...that is cool enough for me...still need flannel sheets and two comforters to keep my teeth from chattering.

I keep it about 68 degrees in here all winter. Not too hot, not too cold. I only sleep with a couple of blankets and a cat or two to keep me warm. That Maine Coon kitten of mine is probably about 12 to 14 pounds right now, and he's only 7 months old! Nice and snuggly.


Sounds like we need to meet her. ;)
Family is good at that- and if they don't have cute little stories, they aren't above making them up!:lol:

I think I will go climb between those warm blankets and see how long I can stay there this time. have a good night, all. Likely be back in a bit, but maybe I'll meet up with Hypnos while I'm in thre.

Night, Wu!

[Woolburr]

Carry a 1Ds with a brick...using only the handstrap for 4 hours...talk about bicep bulge.

Add in the 1DmkIIn with the 70-200 on it...that will get your attention by the end of the afternoon.

[Lightstream]

Do you prefer a backpack or a shoulder bag?

My all time favorite is the Domke F802.. does almost everything I need it to do. Computrekker for backpack but usually I don't want to even carry it once fully loaded.

[Lightstream]

Carry a 1Ds with a brick...using only the handstrap for 4 hours...talk about bicep bulge.


Photography doubles as exercise for me.. no kidding - way too lazy to ever find me at the gym. Thankfully I'm naturally thin.

[theflyingkiwi]

Yes it is. Put that on a 1D and you have an excellent combo. Usually the Sigma 70-200/2.8 (nearly same weight as Canon classic version without IS) is paired to that camera.

I DO notice a very visible difference in bicep size after extended few-hours-of-handholding every weekend... no kidding. I try to run one photo op each weekend at the very least.

I don't actually mind the weight if I am using and shooting with the lens. What I REALLY mind is carrying bag weight for hours. One shoot.. had the 1D/70-200 on me, standing for six hours.. only then did it get heavy. However, the bag gets heavy a lot earlier than that.

ok I am going to give you some more advice (and you will more than likey do nothing about it ;) yes I am only joking )

in most parts of the western world they have things called gyms, you can go there to lift weights which will help overcome pain of carrying so much weight :)

but then in saying that, I should also take my own advice.

Well I sort of am. I am lifting weights at home.

I know what you mean. I still having gotten used to the 10D with the sigma 100-300F4 attached to it. I would hate to think of the weight with a 1 series.

[liza]

Doing curls with 70-200 2.8 IS and the 100-400 is great weight training.

So is a Sigma 70-200. It's like carrying a concrete block.

Yes it is. Put that on a 1D and you have an excellent combo. Usually the Sigma 70-200/2.8 (nearly same weight as Canon classic version without IS) is paired to that camera.

I DO notice a very visible difference in bicep size after extended few-hours-of-handholding every weekend... no kidding. I try to run one photo op each weekend at the very least.

I don't actually mind the weight if I am using and shooting with the lens. What I REALLY mind is carrying bag weight for hours. One shoot.. had the 1D/70-200 on me, standing for six hours.. only then did it get heavy. However, the bag gets heavy a lot earlier than that.

My biceps are pretty well developed, too, from carrying two DSLR's with heavy lenses much of the time.

Don't.. you have a much lighter, less back-breaking bag that enables you to walk further and see more sights :) No kidding the BEST part of the XT is the weight...or lack of it! Explains why I still have mine.



I have a huge Dynatran backpack filled with gear and then carry a smaller Tenba shoulder bag for specific assignments.

[saravrose]

Do you prefer a backpack or a shoulder bag?

My all time favorite is the Domke F802.. does almost everything I need it to do. Computrekker for backpack but usually I don't want to even carry it once fully loaded.

for walking around I like my shoulder bag... but boy do I get a stiff neck from it... I'm leaning towards a backback because it has to be more comfortable and I want a LOT more space than what I have now... I want to be able to keep my 70-200 on my body and put it in my bag.. I can't now... and I want it to be very padded and I want the straps to be thick and cushy and I want it to have a quick snap and a zipper and I want lots of outside pockets for batteries and memory and maybe room for my wallet and lipstick... and It would be nice if it could be atleast a little feminine..

sari

[Lightstream]

Used to run around with 10 pounds of laptop, 5 pounds of gear, and 5 pounds of junk on one shoulder. Those days are gone, and hopefully the shoulder will last just a bit longer after being subject to less abuse...

Sure I can do it, but it takes all the fun out of it. I like to travel light. :mrgreen:

Likewise the cameras double as weights :p

Sigma 1-3 is the same weight as the Canon 1-4.. 1D is 1600gm including one battery pack, think the 10D is ~700gm (if I recall correctly).

[Woolburr]

Do you prefer a backpack or a shoulder bag?

My all time favorite is the Domke F802.. does almost everything I need it to do. Computrekker for backpack but usually I don't want to even carry it once fully loaded.

Backpack is the only way to fly (LowePro Mini-Trekker AW)...Have a pelican 1600 series on wheels that goes in the car or the RV...swap stuff out as I need it.

[Lightstream]

So is a Sigma 70-200. It's like carrying a concrete block.
My biceps are pretty well developed, too, from carrying two DSLR's with heavy lenses much of the time.
I have a huge Dynatran backpack filled with gear and then carry a smaller Tenba shoulder bag for specific assignments.

Stand around waiting for the action at a horse jumping event, for six hours under the sun (now I know why the Aussie bush hat is designed the way it is).. yup.. I can relate :D

My penchant for zooms is paid for in weight or lack of aperture....

I use my Computrekker for moving gear from location to location, but prefer to work out of my Domke. Usually 2-3 lenses will cover all I need.

for walking around I like my shoulder bag... but boy do I get a stiff neck from it... I'm leaning towards a backback because it has to be more comfortable and I want a LOT more space than what I have now... I want to be able to keep my 70-200 on my body and put it in my bag.. I can't now... and I want it to be very padded and I want the straps to be thick and cushy and I want it to have a quick snap and a zipper and I want lots of outside pockets for batteries and memory and maybe room for my wallet and lipstick... and It would be nice if it could be atleast a little feminine..

sari


The Computrekker might work, apart from the last criteria ;) otherwise, Crumpler might have something a little bit more stylish. The Lowepro stuff is all flat black, which looks good on me but I agree there are definitely more attractive looking bags :D

[saravrose]

I have a lowepro now and love it... it has held up some abuse very well and looks brand new.. but my neck at the end of the day!!.. I want something easier to carry I find myself leaving stuff at home just so I won't have to deal with it... which defeats the point of having other lenses if I won't take them with me.. and I can compromise on it being girly.. as long as it fits my other criteria.. I already picked out my bag for Africa but I still want something else..

sari

[Woolburr]

So is a Sigma 70-200. It's like carrying a concrete block.

My biceps are pretty well developed, too, from carrying two DSLR's with heavy lenses much of the time.

I have a huge Dynatran backpack filled with gear and then carry a smaller Tenba shoulder bag for specific assignments.

Carrying around the gear needed for a football game will give you quite the workout.

[theflyingkiwi]

one of the best advice that I ever got was to use a backpack. Since then that's all I brought. that's all I am going to buy.

[Woolburr]

You guys do realize we are talking photography again....?

[theflyingkiwi]

You guys do realize we are talking photography again....?

shhh don't tell anyone and they may not know.:cool: :lol:

[Woolburr]

one of the best advice that I ever got was to use a backpack. Since then that's all I brought. that's all I am going to buy.

I can carry a backpack for a whole lot longer than any shoulder bag. And still be functional!

[saravrose]

You guys do realize we are talking photography again....?


oops... oh, and another criteria.. i'm sick of my hair getting caught in the strap and getting pulled... I really do think I need a backpack...

sari

[Lightstream]

I have a lowepro now and love it... it has held up some abuse very well and looks brand new.. but my neck at the end of the day!!.. I want something easier to carry I find myself leaving stuff at home just so I won't have to deal with it... which defeats the point of having other lenses if I won't take them with me.. and I can compromise on it being girly.. as long as it fits my other criteria.. I already picked out my bag for Africa but I still want something else..

sari


The 'trekkers are all backpacks, check 'em out.

Understand what you mean by shoulder bags which can be neck breaking :D the Domke's are mostly shoulder.. my F802 with full load is EASILY 12 pounds, though I suspect closer to 15. Full load.. 100-400, 5D, 17-40, 24-105, 430EX, misc junk, tcons, CPLs, other gear....

[liza]

Used to run around with 10 pounds of laptop, 5 pounds of gear, and 5 pounds of junk on one shoulder. Those days are gone, and hopefully the shoulder will last just a bit longer after being subject to less abuse...

Sure I can do it, but it takes all the fun out of it. I like to travel light. :mrgreen:


My, you do travel light. My backpack is so heavy that I can barely lift it. My son has to pick it up and put it on my back for me.

Backpack is the only way to fly (LowePro Mini-Trekker AW)...Have a pelican 1600 series on wheels that goes in the car or the RV...swap stuff out as I need it.

I pretty much have to do this. It would be silly for me to do otherwise.

Carrying around the gear needed for a football game will give you quite the workout.

That's for sure. I had three cameras hanging off me at the playoff game.

[Lightstream]

I do indeed... no sense making myself into the beast of burden. :)

One week till the 70-200/4!

[theflyingkiwi]

oops... oh, and another criteria.. i'm sick of my hair getting caught in the strap and getting pulled... I really do think I need a backpack...

sari

I think you should do what I do. shave it off. :) that way you will no longer have that problem.

I do that because I am going gray and bald.

[Woolburr]

I will have to weigh my backpack...I suspect it would scare you.

[liza]

I do indeed... no sense making myself into the beast of burden. :)

One week till the 70-200/4!

Are you talking the IS version or regular? I have the older version. It's very light.

[Woolburr]

I think you should do what I do. shave it off. :) that way you will no longer have that problem.

I do that because I am going gray and bald.

You smooth talking lady-killer...I'm sure that is every females wildest dream...shaving their heads. ;)

[Lightstream]

I will have to weigh my backpack...I suspect it would scare you.


Hey, like I said, I'm a lightweight.... what is new :p

But would be interested in hearing the weight of your pack...


BTW Sari, which bag are you bringing to Africa?

[liza]

You smooth talking lady-killer...I'm sure that is every females wildest dream...shaving their heads. ;)

Oh, I'm sure Sari would have men flocking around her if she did that. :)

[Lightstream]

Are you talking the IS version or regular? I have the older version. It's very light.

IS version, which is a staggering 50gm heavier, I think ;)

It'll make a nice change from the Sigma Concrete Block (actually, come to think of it, it has the correct color and texture :D) on the days when I don't need 2.8. Sold my 300/4 to cover the cost of this one so the net outlay is very little.

The big debate in my mind is whether I should sell the Sigma TOO and get the 70-200/2.8 ISL (ie. go all the way, go nuts), but as I was saying, the heavy zooms tend to get left behind - and therefore I would not get full value out of it.

[Woolburr]

Hey, like I said, I'm a lightweight.... what is new :p

But would be interested in hearing the weight of your pack...


BTW Sari, which bag are you bringing to Africa?

I'll try to remember to do that in the morning....when I have some strength built back up....

[theflyingkiwi]

You smooth talking lady-killer...I'm sure that is every females wildest dream...shaving their heads. ;)

ohh that's me, I'm a smooth operator :lol:




of cameras that is.
perhaps not, still havn't figured out how to do bracketing yet :rolleyes:

[Lightstream]

I'll try to remember to do that in the morning....when I have some strength built back up....

It's probably not helping your back any...

.. I'd like the money to go to Canon, not the Chiropractor....

[Woolburr]

Oh, I'm sure Sari would have men flocking around her if she did that. :)

Strange thing is...there are a whole segment of kooks out there that get into the whole bald woman scene....remember Sinead (skinhead) (http://members.chello.at/szendrey/graphics/sinpicpic.jpg) O'Connor...there sure wasn't anyone interested in her for her singing talent.

[liza]

IS version, which is a staggering 50gm heavier, I think ;)

It'll make a nice change from the Sigma Concrete Block (actually, come to think of it, it has the correct color and texture :D) on the days when I don't need 2.8. Sold my 300/4 to cover the cost of this one so the net outlay is very little.

The big debate in my mind is whether I should sell the Sigma TOO and get the 70-200/2.8 ISL (ie. go all the way, go nuts), but as I was saying, the heavy zooms tend to get left behind - and therefore I would not get full value out of it.

Oh, I wouldn't sell the Sigma. It's a good lens, albeit heavier than a freaking load of bricks. I don't use my f/4 lens much at all unless I'm shooting baseball, softball, or soccer in the spring or senior portraits in the fall. I guess I just don't find f/4 versatile enough for my type of shooting.

[Woolburr]

It's probably not helping your back any...

.. I'd like the money to go to Canon, not the Chiropractor....

No...it probably isn't doing the back any favors...and it probably only weighs slightly less than the fire gear I was used to wearing.

[saravrose]

I think you should do what I do. shave it off. :) that way you will no longer have that problem.

I do that because I am going gray and bald.

sorry, shaving my head is not a solution.. My hair is the one thing that I like about myself..

You smooth talking lady-killer...I'm sure that is every females wildest dream...shaving their heads. ;)

wildest dreams... if you count nightmares then absolutely. I love the idea of not having any hair... :rolleyes: ..

Hey, like I said, I'm a lightweight.... what is new :p

But would be interested in hearing the weight of your pack...


BTW Sari, which bag are you bringing to Africa?

it's a lowepro and is pretty much a suitcase that will fit my laptop in it.. But, i'm planning on packing another bag with my luggage for walk-around. this one will be good for traveling so I won't be forced to check my computer or my kit..

Oh, I'm sure Sari would have men flocking around her if she did that. :)

oh yeah..... !!! as popular as I am now I just love the idea of shaving my head and getting reactions... ;) .. wanna hear about the worst tattoo i've ever seen in my life?... it's been about five years and I still think about it..

sari

[Permagrin]

hmm permie never got back with me about how much of a bribe she needed to "squeal"

My price to squeal, you bring Wool over here for another visit. Oh and Wool, my price NOT to squeal, you bring Wu over here for another visit. :lol:

hehe.. non of my lenses are heavy enough to use as paperweights... feeling slightly left out..

sari

Don't feel left out. I have a hate hate relationship with my big lenses. Sold one, hate it that I did. (though it was really heavy). Kept one...hate it. Just plain hate it :lol:

That Maine Coon kitten of mine is probably about 12 to 14 pounds right now, and he's only 7 months old! Nice and snuggly.


I have a Maine Coon story. We bought a female about 10 years ago...Maine Coon. Didn't get her fixed quick enough and she had kittens. Well something about her "genetics" (perhaps she was too closely bred or something)....combined with maternity, caused her to snap. She went insane, killed 2 of her 5 kittens and we saved the 3rd one literally at the last moment. The mom had to be put down sadly. We kept the kitten that was almost killed and he was bonkers...seriously borderline psychotic...if someone disciplined him, he'd chase them down the hall biting at their heels...he was whacko, but we kept him until he too passed away, because we felt bad for him, starting out at such a disadvantage. When we bought the female, we were told they were great cats, loving and friendly and good for a family. She was, until she "snapped". He never was...but he loved water. You couldn't keep him out of a full bathtub...I think I liked him because he was "whacked"!

I have a lowepro now and love it... it has held up some abuse very well and looks brand new.. but my neck at the end of the day!!.. I want something easier to carry I find myself leaving stuff at home just so I won't have to deal with it... which defeats the point of having other lenses if I won't take them with me.. and I can compromise on it being girly.. as long as it fits my other criteria.. I already picked out my bag for Africa but I still want something else..

sari

I have a large bag almost duffle in size, for my gear. And a backpack for outings. I just fill up the backpack with what I want to shoot and go. If I'm going on a long trip I take both. That way, not everything is in my backpack....works great for me.

I can carry a backpack for a whole lot longer than any shoulder bag. And still be functional!

Me too. I went through several different bags before I settled on my backpack. It's suited me well and I have no desire for another.

[Lightstream]

Oh, I wouldn't sell the Sigma. It's a good lens, albeit heavier than a freaking load of bricks. I don't use my f/4 lens much at all unless I'm shooting baseball, softball, or soccer in the spring or senior portraits in the fall. I guess I just don't find f/4 versatile enough for my type of shooting.

Yup, I understand. Thanks for the recommendation.. my strategy is that since I use f/2.8 less often (and f/4 a lot more often), I would keep the Sigma for the days when I need it, but carry the lighter lens for everything else. That'd also enable me to split my setup into 2 lenses, rather than just lump the whole investment into one big 2.8 IS L. If I was a sports shooter it would probably be a whole different story.

Also, the days when you really need 2.8 to stop action, you need high shutter speeds too (1/500 as you mentioned). This'll essentially eliminate the need for IS because we're way over the 1/focal_length rule already.

[Woolburr]

ohh that's me, I'm a smooth operator :lol:




of cameras that is.
perhaps not, still haven't figured out how to do bracketing yet :rolleyes:

Nothing that complicated about bracketing shots. Set your bracket range and hold the shutter button down for the 3 shots.

[theflyingkiwi]

Nothing that complicated about bracketing shots. Set your bracket range and hold the shutter button down for the 3 shots.

while that may be ture, I have remember were to find the option on the camera :rolleyes: :lol:

[Woolburr]

My price to squeal, you bring Wool over here for another visit. Oh and Wool, my price NOT to squeal, you bring Wu over here for another visit. :lol:


Gee...such a deal that is...ROFL...what did you put in your bath water? Straight vodka?

[Lightstream]

Don't feel left out. I have a hate hate relationship with my big lenses. Sold one, hate it that I did. (though it was really heavy). Kept one...hate it. Just plain hate it :lol:


Thought you loved your 1-4!! :D

Well glad I am not the only one who doesn't like all the heavy stuff.

Won't even talk about the time I had to carry a full packload of gear.. there are things that I've done that would surprise a lot of people. May those days stay gone. There's a reason I changed setups.. :)


I have a Maine Coon story. We bought a female about 10 years ago...Maine Coon. Didn't get her fixed quick enough and she had kittens. Well something about her "genetics" (perhaps she was too closely bred or something)....combined with maternity, caused her to snap. She went insane, killed 2 of her 5 kittens and we saved the 3rd one literally at the last moment. The mom had to be put down sadly. We kept the kitten that was almost killed and he was bonkers...seriously borderline psychotic...if someone disciplined him, he'd chase them down the hall biting at their heels...he was whacko, but we kept him until he too passed away, because we felt bad for him, starting out at such a disadvantage. When we bought the female, we were told they were great cats, loving and friendly and good for a family. She was, until she "snapped". He never was...but he loved water. You couldn't keep him out of a full bathtub...I think I liked him because he was "whacked"!



http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,20881144-5005961,00.html

Pregnancy does wierd things to you, and I have no desire to experience it or inflict it on anybody else.....

[Woolburr]

while that may be ture, I have remember were to find the option on the camera :rolleyes: :lol:

Yes...that could pose a bit of a problem.

[saravrose]

what's a main coon?... a kind of cat?..

[Permagrin]

Gee...such a deal that is...ROFL...what did you put in your bath water? Straight vodka?

HEY, it's a great deal if you think about it...WE ALL WIN!

I get some great company and well so do you both! http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/108966791-S.gif

[Permagrin]

what's a main coon?... a kind of cat?..

Yes, a very large, water loving and supposedly very friendly cat!

[Lightstream]

Yes, a very large, water loving and supposedly very friendly cat!


Any pics?

[saravrose]

well folks I do believe I need to get some sleep.. see y'all tomorrow...

sari

[Lightstream]

night.....cya later

[Woolburr]

Nite Sari

[Permagrin]

Any pics?

Not of the mom, no. The son was a half maine coon and I've got some prints somewhere of him...he wasn't big but he had all the "big fur". Tomorrow I'll look and see if I can find one.

well folks I do believe I need to get some sleep.. see y'all tomorrow...

sari

Night Sari!

[Lightstream]

Wikipedia rules....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maine_Coon

That is a biiiiiiig cat....

[Permagrin]

Wikipedia rules....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maine_Coon

That is a biiiiiiig cat....

Lightstream that article on pregnancy and mental illness was really interesting. I'll be the first one to admit that having children really does alter you mental state :lol: :lol:

[liza]

Don't feel left out. I have a hate hate relationship with my big lenses. Sold one, hate it that I did. (though it was really heavy). Kept one...hate it. Just plain hate it :lol:

I have a Maine Coon story. We bought a female about 10 years ago...Maine Coon. Didn't get her fixed quick enough and she had kittens. Well something about her "genetics" (perhaps she was too closely bred or something)....combined with maternity, caused her to snap. She went insane, killed 2 of her 5 kittens and we saved the 3rd one literally at the last moment. The mom had to be put down sadly. We kept the kitten that was almost killed and he was bonkers...seriously borderline psychotic...if someone disciplined him, he'd chase them down the hall biting at their heels...he was whacko, but we kept him until he too passed away, because we felt bad for him, starting out at such a disadvantage. When we bought the female, we were told they were great cats, loving and friendly and good for a family. She was, until she "snapped". He never was...but he loved water. You couldn't keep him out of a full bathtub...I think I liked him because he was "whacked"!


Teddy, my Maine Coon, is pretty whacked from spending a couple of days trapped between two walls. It was just by the grace of God that I heard him crying and rescued him. He was a sweet little kitten who has expanded rapidly to a huge cat. And he won't be a year old until April. He and the other kitten I found the same day both like water and will get in the shower with me. The little calico also likes to climb as high as she can possibly get. I saw her tiptoeing on top of an open door the other day. She also likes to climb the shower curtain and use the curtain rod as a balance beam while I'm showering.


Also, the days when you really need 2.8 to stop action, you need high shutter speeds too (1/500 as you mentioned). This'll essentially eliminate the need for IS because we're way over the 1/focal_length rule already.

That's for sure. I would really never need an IS lens due to the subject matter that I shoot. And with my muscle tone, I handhold very steadily anyhow.

[Lightstream]

AHA! No wonder I was thinking "I have seen that kind of cat somewhere" - your cat!

[Woolburr]

I need IS...I'm usually drunk...and have the shakes...and if I am sober...I really have the shakes...IS is a must....hehehe

[Lightstream]

Lightstream that article on pregnancy and mental illness was really interesting. I'll be the first one to admit that having children really does alter you mental state :lol: :lol:

Yes, but that only explains half the basket cases on this thread - the rest haven't been through it, and some (by design) are ineligible, so what do THEY have to blame for their nuttiness? ;)

(I blame similarly tragic life-altering circumstances...and too much blood in the alcohol stream)

I need IS...I'm usually drunk...and have the shakes...and if I am sober...I really have the shakes...IS is a must....hehehe

You sure post like you are ;)

[Woolburr]

You sure post like you are ;)

Drunk, sober or in need of IS?

[Permagrin]

Teddy, my Maine Coon, is pretty whacked from spending a couple of days trapped between two walls. It was just by the grace of God that I heard him crying and rescued him. He was a sweet little kitten who has expanded rapidly to a huge cat. And he won't be a year old until April. He and the other kitten I found the same day both like water and will get in the shower with me. The little calico also likes to climb as high as she can possibly get. I saw her tiptoeing on top of an open door the other day. She also likes to climb the shower curtain and use the curtain rod as a balance beam while I'm showering.



That's for sure. I would really never need an IS lens due to the subject matter that I shoot. And with my muscle tone, I handhold very steadily anyhow.

Oh, I'm glad you saved them! I do love cats and yours sound adorable...after Lady Macbeth (our MC), I decided to never buy one again...just adopt the less fortunate....

We named LMcBeth's son, Louis De La Mala...it was fitting. And a word of warning...that balancing on the shower rod thing is cute...Lou used to do it on the shower doors....until they slip. Then it's time for stitches. Don't ask me how I know this. Or about the time he jumped from those doors to the top of my head, whilst I was indisposed....he went through screen doors instead of waiting until they were opened...use to ambush the children when they were little...he was something all right.

[Permagrin]

Yes, but that only explains half the basket cases on this thread - the rest haven't been through it, and some (by design) are ineligible, so what do THEY have to blame for their nuttiness? ;)

(I blame similarly tragic life-altering circumstances...and too much blood in the alcohol stream)

You sure post like you are ;)

I just figured you were all aliens or something...



Drunk, sober or in need of IS?

I was going to say "whacked"...

[Woolburr]

You guys wouldn't know what to do without me.

[Permagrin]

You guys wouldn't know what to do without me.

You're right Wool. Absolutely no argument there! ;)

[Lightstream]

Drunk, sober or in need of IS?


You sound happy drunk, but still in need of IS :p

What's in the pitcher tonight? I used to make my drinks by the pitcher too till I realized it would probably be better if I didn't feel obligated to finish it :p

[Woolburr]

Actually...the bloody mary last night was the first and only alcohol consumed here since a glass of wine for turkey day

[Permagrin]

Well all, I've had the bath and now I'm sleepy....so have fun and nighty night!

[Lightstream]

night PG....

[Woolburr]

nite Permie...I'm starting to fade too

[liza]

Hey, thanks for the article, Yoda! The "trilling" they described is exactly what both Teddy and the other cat do instead of meowing.

[Lightstream]

night Wool...

Liza, you're welcome :) and your cat photography beats the stuffing out of almost all the shots on that webpage.. they sure leave a lot to be desired!

[Woolburr]

most all the shots we take would embarrass the majority of websites...funny thing about having such a talented group

[Permagrin]

GUys, I have to tell you something...I was just grinding coffee for the morning...opened a new bag. Noticed that it said on the side "grind by Oct. 12 '07....7:02pm" I kid you not. Even if I was so inclined as to leave coffee around for a year or so.....what would happen if I waited until Oct. 12th, 8:30pm?? ??" Does this seam strange to anyone else but tired old me?

[Lightstream]

I was thinking that the comparison photo of the large MC vs the small cat really needed help.. ;)

I never look at a picture the same way again..and as for the definition of 'snapshot'.. reading the blogs of most 18-20somethings with the horrible misspellings, inability to write properly and worst of all: them and their camera phones.. now that is truly horrifying photography if the term can even be stretched that far!

[liza]

Yes, but that only explains half the basket cases on this thread - the rest haven't been through it, and some (by design) are ineligible, so what do THEY have to blame for their nuttiness?


I think mine comes from working around people with disabilities and mental illness for so long. It starts to rub off after a while. :)

Oh, I'm glad you saved them! I do love cats and yours sound adorable...after Lady Macbeth (our MC), I decided to never buy one again...just adopt the less fortunate....



I didn't buy this kitten. He is one of several feral cats that live in my mother's barn. There are a number of them but we haven't been able to catch any of them until I found Teddy. And I never buy animals either. There are too many strays who need homes.

night Wool...

Liza, you're welcome :) and your cat photography beats the stuffing out of almost all the shots on that webpage.. they sure leave a lot to be desired!

Thanks. I noticed that. I'll have to take some more shots of Teddy now that he's larger. Much larger. :)

most all the shots we take would embarrass the majority of websites...funny thing about having such a talented group

What ever happened to the notion of having photo assignments? Or did I miss something?

[Lightstream]

GUys, I have to tell you something...I was just grinding coffee for the morning...opened a new bag. Noticed that it said on the side "grind by Oct. 12 '07....7:02pm" I kid you not. Even if I was so inclined as to leave coffee around for a year or so.....what would happen if I waited until Oct. 12th, 8:30pm?? ??" Does this seam strange to anyone else but tired old me?


The coffee collapses inwards unto itself towards a vanishing point, creating a miniature black hole and sucking in everything else within a couple of meters. Be advised this may cause severe damage to your kitchen. Drink it quickly ;)

I am finishing this pack of pre-ground coffee and will be doing the grind-on-demand thing for the next batch. No more pre-grinding large batches (I am still a n00b remember..)

[liza]

Just noticed the time. It's back to bed for me! Night all!

[Woolburr]

GUys, I have to tell you something...I was just grinding coffee for the morning...opened a new bag. Noticed that it said on the side "grind by Oct. 12 '07....7:02pm" I kid you not. Even if I was so inclined as to leave coffee around for a year or so.....what would happen if I waited until Oct. 12th, 8:30pm?? ??" Does this seam strange to anyone else but tired old me?

That is pretty funny...perhaps you should set aside a small sample...to brew specially at 8:30 on the 12th.

[Lightstream]

I think mine comes from working around people with disabilities and mental illness for so long. It starts to rub off after a while. :)


Then I need to get away from some of the crowd I work with! QUICKLY!

Oh wait, that was last workplace. But still feels like yesterday. ;)


What ever happened to the notion of having photo assignments? Or did I miss something?

AH yes!!

PG! GET BACK HERE! You're supposed to be the main driver of this operation!

night Liza.. we'll keep you posted!

[Woolburr]

What ever happened to the notion of having photo assignments? Or did I miss something?

It was discussed briefly...but not to the point of actually deciding to do anything about it.