Red-Ringed Tupperware Party with (ineffective) Tin Foil Hats

[tommykjensen]

Resisting is hopeless :p

[theflyingkiwi]

Speaking of laying the smack down, the 1D bug is biting me again.......CRAP!!!!!

I feel like trawling for a used N.....

no you don't need it, listen to us. buy us cake instead :)

[Lightstream]

mmmmmmm cake!

[theflyingkiwi]

I vote for banana and chocolate with passion fruit icing :)

[Lightstream]

Sheer decadence :p

[Pete]

Hmm.. I'm having a thin day today.

Big lunch yesterday, going out for dinner tonight with Ali (it's her birthday), and I'm out again for a lunch tomorrow.

[Woolburr]

Hmm.. I'm having a thin day today.

Big lunch yesterday, going out for dinner tonight with Ali (it's her birthday), and I'm out again for a lunch tomorrow.

I haven't eaten at home this year....going out to eat is getting very old...I want to have real food again...and some place to cook it.:rolleyes:

Good Moooooooooooooooooooorning Tupperville!

[Maureen Souza]

I'm being beat-up in the "About Moderators" thread. LOL.

[Woolburr]

Thump Thump....howdy Mo....still at work?

[Maureen Souza]

Thump Thump....howdy Mo....still at work?
Yup...for one more hour. Then I am off tonight and back on Thursday night. Then.......vacation time!!!!!!!

[Woolburr]

I find that whole moderator thread a bit bizarre...what is the purpose of all the attacks? I can tell a lot of those folks have never spent any time at FM or one of the other poorly run places.

[Pete]

Backpedalling, Maureen?? ;)

[Maureen Souza]

Backpedalling, Maureen?? ;)
:D :D :D
News to me....

[Woolburr]

Backpedaling leads to falling off your bike!

[Permagrin]

Mooooorning everyong :)

Orange is very easy to run out of gamut. I have more trouble printing orange than any other color out there.

not me, it's red that I have problems with. I hate it when my reds are pinkish or purple is or burgundy. I don't think it's a printer thing though...I'm beginning to think it's a camera/lens thing. Until the 5D, reds never turned out right and even with a couple of lenses (the DO being one of them) on it, sometimes reds will still be wrong. Since I like red, I like it to be RED! :)

Cool, glad it worked out overall. I really prefer lustre as well.



In honor of his birthday, I'll provide a bona fide Puddle response here:

The difficulty with printing oranges is the dimpling. The skin just isn't smoothe enough to get good contact with the ink.

Next time try an apple.

THIS WAS GREAT! A perfect Puddle response :lol:

We should all post the one we are going to submit sometime and see what RRTP chooses, and then they get a RRTP patch free (once it comes about :grin:).

Oooooooooooooooh! The SMACK has been laid down in august's 5D/35L thread!
Go Tommy!

:lol: YES!

I was getting tired of reading the complaints over that thread....

I was rather tired of complaining ABOUT that thread actually :lol:

I haven't eaten at home this year....going out to eat is getting very old...I want to have real food again...and some place to cook it.

Good Moooooooooooooooooooorning Tupperville!

I can imagine how tiring that'd get after a while!
We made a deal last night...we're going back to eating properly, AT HOME (it's better for us anyway)...I have 6 mo. to show some improvement on my blood work or it's meds :rolleyes: :confused: so I have to stop eating out all the time. Restraunt food is killing me...

I'm being beat-up in the "About Moderators" thread. LOL.

ooh, got to go find the thread

[gjl711]

Backpedaling leads to falling off your bike!
Unless your on a unicycle. I never could get the hang of those things.;)

[Maureen Souza]

It is now closed, Lisa....but you can still read it.

[aussieskier]

Mooooorning everyong :)



not me, it's red that I have problems with. I hate it when my reds are pinkish or purple is or burgundy. I don't think it's a printer thing though...I'm beginning to think it's a camera/lens thing. Until the 5D, reds never turned out right and even with a couple of lenses (the DO being one of them) on it, sometimes reds will still be wrong. Since I like red, I like it to be RED! :)


I remember reading a while ago that the canon cameras tend to mess up the red (I can't remember the exact details) And the best way to fix it is to calibrate your raw converter etc. I never really looked into it. I have never had a problem with the reds on my 30d. Usually they come out just right :D

Unless your on a unicycle. I never could get the hang of those things.;)
Last year in highschool couple of my buddies and I work on designing and machining an off-road unicycle. I still have the crank arms etc in my room. One of these days (maybe this summer) we will put it together!

Dang it, I forgot I wasn't going to post but one post today... Oh well I guess I will just hit 2000 tonight.. I don't think I have that much self control :grin:

[timbernet]

I remember reading a while ago that the canon cameras tend to mess up the red (I can't remember the exact details) And the best way to fix it is to calibrate your raw converter etc. I never really looked into it. I have never had a problem with the reds on my 30d. Usually they come out just right :D


Last year in highschool couple of my buddies and I work on designing and machining an off-road unicycle. I still have the crank arms etc in my room. One of these days (maybe this summer) we will put it together!

Dang it, I forgot I wasn't going to post but one post today... Oh well I guess I will just hit 2000 tonight.. I don't think I have that much self control :grin:

Get to 1,999 - then signoff for a week ;-)

[gjl711]

...Last year in highschool couple of my buddies and I work on designing and machining an off-road unicycle. I still have the crank arms etc in my room. One of these days (maybe this summer) we will put it together!.. I've seen the mountain unicyclers on TV before. They must have ba!!s of steel. I have done some mountain biking on two wheels and that’s hard enough. I can’t possible imagine doing it on one wheel.

[Permagrin]

It is now closed, Lisa....but you can still read it.

WOW, what a wild thread! How did you guys know that it was a returning previously banned member?

[Maureen Souza]

WOW, what a wild thread! How did you guys know that it was a returning previously banned member?
Cadwell checked the IP number. He is smarter than I am......I didn't even think about it:confused:

[Maureen Souza]

Well, I am off to bed..... I don't work tonight so it will just be a 3 hour nap so I can con't on with the rest of my day. See y'all later.

[Permagrin]

Cadwell checked the IP number. He is smarter than I am......I didn't even think about it:confused:

wow...I wouldn't have thought of it either...that guy certainly did thrash you though...wow. It does show a lot of strength of character to not respond poorly. I'm proud of you Mo ;) (seriously, I think while 98% of the time I'm happy go lucky, I do have buttons that, once they are pushed, would make me a very poor mod...)

[aussieskier]

Get to 1,999 - then signoff for a week ;-)

The thought crossed my mind, but I think that this place is crack. I could probably keep myself busy enough with stuff to do before finals that it wouldn't be a very big deal to do.

Something tells me I will have more time on my hand tonight and I won't be able to maintain that much control :grin:

I've seen the mountain unicyclers on TV before. They must have ba!!s of steel. I have done some mountain biking on two wheels and that’s hard enough. I can’t possible imagine doing it on one wheel.

Yea I want to try it! It looks like tons of fun. Then again I am young and well... I guess I earn my title once again.

[Woolburr]

Mooooorning everyong :)

I can imagine how tiring that'd get after a while!
We made a deal last night...we're going back to eating properly, AT HOME (it's better for us anyway)...I have 6 mo. to show some improvement on my blood work or it's meds :rolleyes: :confused: so I have to stop eating out all the time. Restraunt food is killing me...


I just hate having to keep receipts...that and I have some favorite foods that I can't get in a restaurant...plus restaurant food probably isn't all that healthy.

[Woolburr]

Yea I want to try it! It looks like tons of fun. Then again I am young and well... I guess I earn my title once again.

Dood...nobody is forcing you to live up to that title! ROFL...

[timbernet]

MMM.... 300mm f/4 non-IS for $625....

[Woolburr]

The IS version will treat you nicer....I have the IS version, tried a non-IS version...no practical difference in sharpness...so the benefit of IS won out.

[tomd]

Howdy ALL,
Can someone explain to me about a Canon lens please: it is a 400 F4 DO IS, USM and it has a GREEN ring instead of the infamous red ring?

Thanks,
Tom

[Woolburr]

Sure...the 400 DO uses Diffractive Optics. The intent behind DO is to improve optical clarity at longer focal lengths by canceling out Chromatic Aberration. CA causes you to see different wavelengths of light arriving somewhat out of alignment at the focal point...causing you to see purple fringes around objects in the image. The DO element corrects that. Also the addition of a DO element allows the manufacturer to build a long telephoto lens in a much more compact package. Canon currently makes 2 DO lenses...the 400 you asked about and the much sought after 70-300 DO...considered by many to be one of the finest compact telephoto lenses going. The green ring just signifies the lens has Diffractive elements, everything else is on par with having a red ring. DO glass is prime optical quality too.

[aussieskier]

Dood...nobody is forcing you to live up to that title! ROFL...

I Guess that is the case... but the Title Faerie must be really good at picking them :grin:!

I guess I am at 1999.. So I will see you all next week :wink:

[tomd]

Thanks. My Dad just came back from Japan and brought me a Canon brochure. I noticed the DO lens, but since all the information is in Japanese, I couldn't read it. I could see the cost at 770,000 yen, whatever that converts to?

[Woolburr]

That converts to about $6500 bucks at the current rate...the lens is available from B&H for $5300...http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=8454&A=details&Q=&sku=239654&is=USA&addedTroughType=categoryNavigation...and of course the Canon info is available in English too. http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelDetailAct&fcategoryid=154&modelid=7468

[tomd]

Dan,
thanks for the info. I guess I won't be putting that one on my x-mas list. I can think of other $5000 lenses that I'd use more frequently.
Thanks again, great info.
Tom

[timbernet]

Heheh, since I was on Wiki I looked at all the lenses and discovered the 50mm f2.5 compact macro. Sells for about $225! I wonder if that would be better on the 5D than the 85 1.8 with tubes?

Aussieskier has the 50mm f//2.5 --- he has some great shots!

[Jon]

Heheh, since I was on Wiki I looked at all the lenses and discovered the 50mm f2.5 compact macro. Sells for about $225! I wonder if that would be better on the 5D than the 85 1.8 with tubes?
It only reaches 1/2 life-size at max; the Life Size Adapter costs almost as much again. It's also a full stop slower than the 85. I'd get the tubes; if you later decide you want a dedicated macro for the 5D, get the 100 f/2.8. Much better working distance.

[Woolburr]

Dan,
thanks for the info. I guess I won't be putting that one on my x-mas list. I can think of other $5000 lenses that I'd use more frequently.
Thanks again, great info.
Tom

You can always put it on the list...just need to really hope there is a Santy Claus!

[aussieskier]

What a wonderful intro for my 2000th post Scott!

I think I will post a few pictures I am considering submitting the the tulip contest. Please let me know what you all think!

1. (50mm macro)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v73/Aussieskier/IMG_9132.jpg

2.(Ibid.)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v73/Aussieskier/IMG_9125.jpg

3.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v73/Aussieskier/IMG_2823.jpg

4.This one almost seems to cliche...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v73/Aussieskier/IMG_2796.jpg

[aussieskier]

It only reaches 1/2 life-size at max; the Life Size Adapter costs almost as much again. It's also a full stop slower than the 85. I'd get the tubes; if you later decide you want a dedicated macro for the 5D, get the 100 f/2.8. Much better working distance.
It depends on what you want to do with it. I used it on the 5d and LOVED it for flowers! I don't find 1:1 all that use full flower personally... But if you want 1:1 the 50 isn't the lens you want.

[aussieskier]

Right now I like to macro flowers and insects, not necessarily together. I never figured out the math for the tubes +lens so I don't know if I use 1:1 or not. :rolleyes:
One thing I like to do, is bum Scott's tubes and use them with the 50 makes focusing a lot easier than with a normal lens. I dunno I got lucky and found mine used for 175 shipped so I am happy :)

[timbernet]

Thanks for the input. I looked at the converter and its around $300 and only good on THAT lens. :shock: I have tubes that I use on the 85, and I get decent results for being a macro-beginner, but I do wonder if I could do better with a dedicated macro. That is down the road, tho, since I need to better my technique before bettering my gear. ;)

ACTUALLY! The life-size converter works on more than just the 50mm... Canon says it only works on the 50mm, but I have read about people using them on a 100-400 and a few others... Let me try to find a link....


Congrats Riley on the 2K!

Your #2 shot isn't my favorite (the yellow tulips) - they seem to bright on my monitor...

[timbernet]

From this thread: http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=41922

CANON EF LIFE SIZE CONVERTER

I recently acquired the EF Life Size Converter. (Thanks to Martin AKA "Huckaback Photo", who informs us of it's flexibility)

The EF Life Size Converter is an interesting little addition to any decent lens arsenal...
Contrary to Canon's claim that it is a specific part for use only with the 50mm Macro,... it will fit ANY EF compatible lens.

It's functionality is interesting.. it is essentially a combination of a T-con and an extension tube in one unit. I will need to do some measurebaiting (something I really never do) to determine what sort of additional magnification it offers.. but I suspect it is very close to a 1.4X T-con. But unlike the T-con it also adds the spacing of somewhere between a 12mm and 25mm extension tube reducing focus distance while increasing focal length with one part.

It's front element is also slightly recessed,. so unlike Canon's dedicated Teleconverters.. the EF Life Size Converter does not protrude forward and will fit any lens.

As with extension tubes, the EF Life Size Converter will reduce focus distance, allowing more magnification, at the expense of loosing infinity focus. How much closer you can get, like and extension tube, varies with your existing lenses normal minimum focus distance.

Link to Samples

Unlike the Canon EF T-Con's, this units presence is NOT indicated in EXIF data, neither focal length or aperture info is effected by it's use. this of course means your EXIF is out the window as both Focal length and aperture are obviously being altered.

The EF Life Size Converter is About the same size as the 1.4X T-con.. it is slightly lighter in weight (has less glass than the T-con)... but it is slightly longer.. (due to the "extension tube" hollow part)

I think it would make a great addition to any Macro enthusiasts bag of tricks.


Sample from the 100-400 + Lifesize: http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=726097#post726097

[aussieskier]

ACTUALLY! The life-size converter works on more than just the 50mm... Canon says it only works on the 50mm, but I have read about people using them on a 100-400 and a few others... Let me try to find a link....


Congrats Riley on the 2K!

Your #2 shot isn't my favorite (the yellow tulips) - they seem to bright on my monitor...
Thanks Scott. I dunno, I need to re-look at that in Lightroom. I think it was light reflecting of the water on the petals so I dunno. My laptop isn't calibrated so I will take another look at it :)

[Woolburr]

Here is a shot with the 85 and a 25mm tube.
http://www.pbase.com/image/77743098.jpg

[timbernet]

A good macro lens would be a 60mm EF-S ... it has USM and is 1:1 macro - and it is only $100 more than the 50mm macro... Though, you can only use it with your XT...

[aussieskier]

A good macro lens would be a 60mm EF-S ... it has USM and is 1:1 macro - and it is only $100 more than the 50mm macro... Though, you can only use it with your XT...

But remember.. what can you do with that 100 (or in my case it is closer to 200) dollars that you save ;);)

[Woolburr]

Riley...#3 and #4 are excellent....you might want to straighten the horizon just a touch in #4 and remove a little bit of the sky with a further crop...the bird sitting on the tractor makes it extra special. Congrats on 2K!

[timbernet]

But remember.. what can you do with that 100 (or in my case it is closer to 200) dollars that you save ;);)

Right... this advice was for Wanda ;-)

[aussieskier]

Right... this advice was for Wanda ;-)

I know... I am just making my public service announcement the you was used in a generic sense :D

Wool: thanks for the advice. I will look at cropping it a bit tighter. If only the sky wasn't grey oh well. The colors are still nice!

I would also like to note that the 70-200 is a wonderful landscape lens :)

[aussieskier]

I've been trying to avoid EF-S lenses since I've ignored the XT since getting the 5D.
You can donate youe 10-22 or 17-55 to me.. I can make sure it won't feel disowned or avoided :lol::lol::rolleyes:

[timbernet]

I would also like to note that the 70-200 is a wonderful landscape lens :)

Even better on a 5D :-D

[aussieskier]

Even better on a 5D :-D
You know I never hooked it up to the 5d for a landscape shot. I was having too much fun with the fifty :).

If I didn't enjoy shooting sports so much I would try and get a 5d (assuming I could afford it). Such a nice little camera!

[aussieskier]

Well I am off to class... Yeeeehaw!
Cheers!

[Woolburr]

Riley...take a look here (http://www.pbase.com/woolburr/image/77743434)...this is what I was talking about with #4.

[timbernet]

I've never tried landscapes with my borrowed 70-200 and the 5D. I got started on macro stuff and forgot about other aspects of photography. My kid and furkid are starting to feel neglected!

Furkid - haha, that is funny!

[Jon]

Right now I like to macro flowers and insects, not necessarily together. I never figured out the math for the tubes +lens so I don't know if I use 1:1 or not. :rolleyes:You'll hit 1:1 with 85 mm worth of extension; including cranking the lens out to close focus, you've got (12, 20 & 36 mm tubes, right?) about 1:1.1 at closest (77 mm of extension).

[timbernet]

WooHoo! My rented 400mm f/5.6 came today!

[Belmondo]

I'm in the Costa Mesa Apple store. Anyone care to guess what I'm doing?:D

[Permagrin]

I'm in the Costa Mesa Apple store. Anyone care to guess what I'm doing?:D

changing everything to Nikon Caf....wait, wrong forum....changing all the homepages to ToysRUS? (am I right? did I win?) :lol:

[gjl711]

I'm in the Costa Mesa Apple store. Anyone care to guess what I'm doing?:D
I hope your not mooning anyone. That would be silly.

[eenorton]

I'm in the Costa Mesa Apple store. Anyone care to guess what I'm doing?:D

http://images16.fotki.com/v30/photos/6/64353/3441401/rotfl2-vi.gif

[Permagrin]

WooHoo! My rented 400mm f/5.6 came today!

cool...I hope it turns out to be what you are looking for. If not, rent the 300 :)

[Belmondo]

changing everything to Nikon Caf....wait, wrong forum....changing all the homepages to ToysRUS? (am I right? did I win?) :lol:Close.;)

I hope your not mooning anyone. That would be silly.What would be wrong with that?:confused:

http://images16.fotki.com/v30/photos/6/64353/3441401/rotfl2-vi.gifI think she knows.......:rolleyes: :lol:

[Permagrin]

Close.;)

What would be wrong with that?:confused:

I think she knows.......:rolleyes: :lol:

;) I think he's referring to the probability of feathers...might be a bit embarrassing

[Jon]

For your consideration (and hopefully, Puddle's art skills - there's a reason I use a camera):

[gjl711]

..
What would be wrong with that?:confused: ..Not wrong, silly.:D

[Permagrin]

For your consideration (and hopefully, Puddle's art skills - there's a reason I use a camera):

a patch is a great idea...I'd put one on my camera bag. But if we planned one, where could we get one made?

edit: doing "TR" is a good idea because the word "tupperware" is trademarked anyway...

[tommykjensen]

a patch is a great idea...I'd put one on my camera bag. But if we planned one, where could we get one made?

edit: doing "TR" is a good idea but the word "tupperware" is trademarked anyway...

pcasciola our shopkeeper could probably answer that as the shop got POTN patches.

[saravrose]

I've just noticed that Tommy doesn't have a title under his name.. he's stuck with boring Moderator?... something should be done I think.. tommy needs a nickname.

sari

[Maureen Souza]

wow...I wouldn't have thought of it either...that guy certainly did thrash you though...wow. It does show a lot of strength of character to not respond poorly. I'm proud of you Mo ;) (seriously, I think while 98% of the time I'm happy go lucky, I do have buttons that, once they are pushed, would make me a very poor mod...)
Sometimes it's best say nothing at all when people get rude. Not that I didn't want to, but then I decided just to laugh it off.

My mailbox got a good workout today...lot's of people were worried about me and PM'd to show their support. Makes the Rude Guy not so important when you have lot's of friends:D

[Maureen Souza]

Tom!!!! Behave yourself! You better get all those computers on to POTN by the time Lois gets done her shopping!;);)

[saravrose]

Sometimes it's best say nothing at all when people get rude. Not that I didn't want to, but then I decided just to laugh it off.

My mailbox got a good workout today...lot's of people were worried about me and PM'd to show their support. Makes the Rude Guy not so important when you have lot's of friends:D

somebody was rude to Mod Mo?.. :( :( .. who? where?.. let me at 'em... :evil: :evil: :evil:

[timbernet]

Here are some sample shots - I am at work, so I am stuck using my laptop for Photoshop - not good ;-)

Nothing has been done to these photos - from the 400mm + 20D:

http://www2.sandynet.org/potn/400/IMG_6789.jpg

http://www2.sandynet.org/potn/400/IMG_6804.jpg

http://www2.sandynet.org/potn/400/IMG_6822.jpg

It was overcast today - so I couldn't get "great" shutter speeds - I think the lowest was 1/200 - 1/250... With my monopod it wasn't that bad...

[tommykjensen]

I've just noticed that Tommy doesn't have a title under his name.. he's stuck with boring Moderator?... something should be done I think.. tommy needs a nickname.

sari

Uh ohh better be carefull what I write around here from now on :lol:

[Permagrin]

somebody was rude to Mod Mo?.. :( :( .. who? where?.. let me at 'em... :evil: :evil: :evil:

very rude but the thread was closed and the guy was banned so you can be calm dear ;)

[Permagrin]

I think I get the most upset when someone is rude to a fellow tuperwarian ;)

[timbernet]

very rude but the thread was closed and the guy was banned so you can be calm dear ;)

Banned again! Darn peopling thinking they can create multiple usernames!

[Permagrin]

scott, those shots look pretty good. Especially the duck one.

[timbernet]

scott, those shots look pretty good. Especially the duck one.

Thanks!

I love this lens :-D -- Very light! Very solid! Fast and silent AF! Small... Far zoom! Great color - I am in love with it ;-) <3 <3

I hope to get to Ankeny or Ridgefield this Saturday... The Willamette POTN crowd can join me if they wish ;-)

[Permagrin]

FWIW, I think I have a co-dependent relationship with my hairdresser. :confused: I tell her what I want and don't want...she refuses to do it (I'm not kidding), then I get mad and don't go for a few months...start to look like garbage and give in and go back. I'm over a barrel here because NO ONE cuts my hair like she does. (I JUST hate it that she says "I have to be satisfied with my work before anyone else" and does what she wants!) Today my hair left the shop looking like Nancy Grace's hair...

[Permagrin]

Thanks!

I love this lens :-D -- Very light! Very solid! Fast and silent AF! Small... Far zoom! Great color - I am in love with it ;-) <3 <3

I hope to get to Ankeny or Ridgefield this Saturday... The Willamette POTN crowd can join me if they wish ;-)

it's too bad but we're booked solid for the latter part of the week/weekend...may not even be on potn for several days (oh what will you do w/o TR? :lol: lol...kidding I'm sure you'll all go on with your lives just fine) so we won't be able to meet you. Which is too bad because I really wanted Dan to see that lens.

[timbernet]

it's too bad but we're booked solid for the latter part of the week/weekend...may not even be on potn for several days (oh what will you do w/o TR? :lol: lol...kidding I'm sure you'll all go on with your lives just fine) so we won't be able to meet you. Which is too bad because I really wanted Dan to see that lens.

:-( That is too bad - what days are you free in the next 7-days? Maybe I could get out of work on a work day ;-)

[saravrose]

FWIW, I think I have a co-dependent relationship with my hairdresser. :confused: I tell her what I want and don't want...she refuses to do it (I'm not kidding), then I get mad and don't go for a few months...start to look like garbage and give in and go back. I'm over a barrel here because NO ONE cuts my hair like she does. (I JUST hate it that she says "I have to be satisfied with my work before anyone else" and does what she wants!) Today my hair left the shop looking like Nancy Grace's hair...

not sure who Nancy Grace is but I understand (more than you know) the problem finding a hairdresser who can do your hair the way you want.. I've gone everywhere from downtown salons to my cousin's sister-in-law... and just when I think I have one good cut I go back for a second and it's terrible again.. I think it's the curls.. the curls throw them.. :confused: :(

[Permagrin]

not sure who Nancy Grace is but I understand (more than you know) the problem finding a hairdresser who can do your hair the way you want.. I've gone everywhere from downtown salons to my cousin's sister-in-law... and just when I think I have one good cut I go back for a second and it's terrible again.. I think it's the curls.. the curls throw them.. :confused: :(

This gal has been doing my hair for years at least 4 years I think. My hair is baby fine...and straight and I think that they have as much problem doing hair with no wave whatsoever as they do with curly (my two best friends have curly hair and once they found a hairdresser who could do it, they've stayed...10+ years I think...so I KNOW what you mean :) ). Anyway, when I color it myself she tells me how bad it looks (and she's right but at least I GET TO DECIDE what I want, even if it's bad). Literally we have "tough discussions" (me: I'm NOT paying you $120 to decide how to do my hair, I WANT you to do it the way I want" her: "okay, but you won't like it" me: "fine, just don't bleach it anymore"...later....me: "are you putting bleach on my hair?" her: "yes..what you want won't work"....)

[Permagrin]

Nancy Grace (http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/)

[saravrose]

This gal has been doing my hair for years at least 4 years I think. My hair is baby fine...and straight and I think that they have as much problem doing hair with no wave whatsoever as they do with curly (my two best friends have curly hair and once they found a hairdresser who could do it, they've stayed...10+ years I think...so I KNOW what you mean :) ). Anyway, when I color it myself she tells me how bad it looks (and she's right but at least I GET TO DECIDE what I want, even if it's bad). Literally we have "tough discussions" (me: I'm NOT paying you $120 to decide how to do my hair, I WANT you to do it the way I want" her: "okay, but you won't like it" me: "fine, just don't bleach it anymore"...later....me: "are you putting bleach on my hair?" her: "yes..what you want won't work"....)

LMAO.. that is crazy.. i've never had a hairdresser talk to me like that.. I've had them explain why they think I should cut or not cut to certain styles or lengths but not refuse to do what i'm paying them for... I do think you need a new girl.. Here's how I go about it. You see someone who looks like they have hair kinda like yours and that it's a really nice cut/color.. you ask them for their hairdressers name.. Women NEVER have a problem telling you and you can maybe find somebody else..

sari

[eenorton]

$120...)

:shock: :shock: :shock:

[Permagrin]

:shock: :shock: :shock:

:lol: that's cheap for around here (cut/color weave and eyebrow wax)

[timbernet]

This gal has been doing my hair for years at least 4 years I think. My hair is baby fine...and straight and I think that they have as much problem doing hair with no wave whatsoever as they do with curly (my two best friends have curly hair and once they found a hairdresser who could do it, they've stayed...10+ years I think...so I KNOW what you mean :) ). Anyway, when I color it myself she tells me how bad it looks (and she's right but at least I GET TO DECIDE what I want, even if it's bad). Literally we have "tough discussions" (me: I'm NOT paying you $120 to decide how to do my hair, I WANT you to do it the way I want" her: "okay, but you won't like it" me: "fine, just don't bleach it anymore"...later....me: "are you putting bleach on my hair?" her: "yes..what you want won't work"....)

My Mother's normal hair person was out sick for a few weeks and she needed her hair done ASAP - so she went to a new shop and the lady told her "You look to much like a mother, I am going to rock you out...." ..... lets just say "Mom" looked a weee bit odd for a few weeks ;-) --- oh, and Mom never went back there...

[Permagrin]

My Mother's normal hair person was out sick for a few weeks and she needed her hair done ASAP - so she went to a new shop and the lady told her "You look to much like a mother, I am going to rock you out...." ..... lets just say "Mom" looked a weee bit odd for a few weeks ;-) --- oh, and Mom never went back there...

:lol: :lol: :lol: SEE! That's why these hairdressers have us over a barrel! And can charge exhorbitant rates...because when one FINALLY does it well then they KNOW you'll stay :lol:

[eenorton]

:lol: that's cheap for around here (cut/color weave and eyebrow wax)

Been a loooong time since I had my hair cut (never colored or woven and wouldn't even *think* about an eyebrow wax!!!!). Think of all the other things you could do with that $120!!!!

..... lets just say "Mom" looked a weee bit odd for a few weeks ;-) --- oh, and Mom never went back there...

Not the adventurous type, eh? :D

[Woolburr]

Another little shot with the 85 and tubes.
http://www.pbase.com/woolburr/image/77743589.jpg

[Maureen Souza]

Hairdresser? I have been cutting my own hair since high school (okay, no jokes about how it looks like a self-whack job), never colored it and never have waxed my eyebrows. Mine are so fine that a wax job would cause total baldinghttp://photo.klein-jensen.dk/smilies/awkward.gif

[Maureen Souza]

Another little shot with the 85 and tubes.

Oh that's beauty, Wooly. Yup, Kenko tubes are my next purchase. Now I need you & Riley to give me a PM tutorial on how to shoot Macro.

Pretty Puhlease!:D

[Permagrin]

Been a loooong time since I had my hair cut (never colored or woven and wouldn't even *think* about an eyebrow wax!!!!). Think of all the other things you could do with that $120!!!!


Trust me I DO think about where else I could be spending that! My hair used to be long (and is in the process of becoming that way again, though I have to fight tooth and nail for every inch...she: "you're almost 40...you want short and chic not long and farm girl" ..me: "I want long and chic and if you cut it short again, I'll never be back!"...her:"okay, I give in this time"). As for the eybrow wax...well, some things just need to be done :lol: :lol:

[Permagrin]

Another little shot with the 85 and tubes.
http://www.pbase.com/woolburr/image/77743589.jpg

Oh, very pretty Wool!

Hairdresser? I have been cutting my own hair since high school (okay, no jokes about how it looks like a self-whack job), never colored it and never have waxed my eyebrows. Mine are so fine that a wax job would cause total baldinghttp://photo.klein-jensen.dk/smilies/awkward.gif

If I cut my own hair I'd look like a bad mop! (and as for the eyebrows, I think I could give Bela Lugosi (ooops, meant Boris Karloff!) a run for his money if they weren't tamed :lol: :lol: )

[eenorton]

Hairdresser? I have been cutting my own hair since high school (okay, no jokes about how it looks like a self-whack job)...

How the heck do you cut the back? I'm impressed!

Trust me I DO think about where else I could be spending that! My hair used to be long (and is in the process of becoming that way again

Every once in a while I entertain the idea of cutting it.... but it grows *SOOO* slowly.... And I think long is much easier to take care of. I'm a chicken. :D

Purty flower Wool!

[aussieskier]

Simple answer to my hair problem... marry Bailey. There are two in the family and one has already done my hair for free :).

If that fails... Go back to buzzing it back army style :).

[timbernet]

Simple answer to my hair problem... marry Bailey. There are two in the family and one has already done my hair for free :).

If that fails... Go back to buzzing it back army style :).

Or go back to that time when you didn't get your hair cut for a year ;-)

[Lightstream]

Here is a shot with the 85 and a 25mm tube.
http://www.pbase.com/image/77743098.jpg

Wow, absolutely awesome.. the bokeh plus the way the rest of the flower falls out of focus, while the top white stuff is so sharp that it becomes almost an abstraction - that's amazing..

A good macro lens would be a 60mm EF-S ... it has USM and is 1:1 macro - and it is only $100 more than the 50mm macro... Though, you can only use it with your XT...

Or a 1D if you are brave. (actually, no bravery needed. Just a willingness to void a warranty.. or if there is no warranty, there are no problems). No vignetting - that's the amazing part. (the 60 is very much over-engineered - that is a GOOD thing!!)

[aussieskier]

Or go back to that time when you didn't get your hair cut for a year ;-)
It wasn't that bad, it was less than 6 months I think it was about 4.

[Jon]

I've just noticed that Tommy doesn't have a title under his name.. he's stuck with boring Moderator?... something should be done I think.. tommy needs a nickname.

sari

Uh ohh better be carefull what I write around here from now on :lol:Especially with your avatar and her title . . .

Another little shot with the 85 and tubes.
http://www.pbase.com/woolburr/image/77743589.jpgVery nice! If I didn't have a 90 mm macro, you'd tempt me to pull out the 85 when I need one . . .

[Permagrin]

Evening all...more of the Tuppers in OZ :)

"Wool's escapism" (intro Zane "short5")
http://tuppervilleranch.com/comics/55ozescapism.jpg

"T-bone does Elvis"
http://tuppervilleranch.com/comics/56ozelvis.jpg

[Maureen Souza]

How the heck do you cut the back? I'm impressed!






Braille.:lol: :lol:

[wu_wei0]

Evening all...more of the Tuppers in OZ :)

"Wool's escapism" (intro Zane "short5")
http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/146575438-L.jpg

It was a thing of beauty!!
What a perfect character for beloved glowstick boy!! and it looks like he even has his gatorade! I assume the oxycontin is long gone. ;)

Is that a skyclad beer maven?? ;)

"T-bone does Elvis"
http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/146575548-L.jpg
Sweet- TD haas a great new nick!!

Great job on both pudsy

[aussieskier]

Awesome TR as usual!

Does T.D. get groupies now? :grin:

[aussieskier]

So, on the hardware I have available on this desktop... changing the metadata on over 6000 pictures at once... Not such a good idea.. (especially combined with the uploading of a web gallery from Lightroom...

[Woolburr]

Wow, absolutely awesome.. the bokeh plus the way the rest of the flower falls out of focus, while the top white stuff is so sharp that it becomes almost an abstraction - that's amazing..


Thanks Kevin....the 85 is a way better lens than people give it credit for...Throw on a set of tubes and it just does wonders.

[Woolburr]

Super duper TR tonight Cap'n....thanks for today's chuckle.

[Permagrin]

Evening...where is everyone anyway!

Wool, I never saw that dandelion photo...very nice!

[Woolburr]

Is that a skyclad beer maven?? ;)


Sure looks like it to me...bring on the brews!:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Woolburr]

I was from earlier in the day Permie...I liked how it took something as miserable as a dandelion and made it sort of interesting.

Here is another shot with a tubed 85....a bit soft...but the lighting was killer.
http://www.pbase.com/woolburr/image/77759521.jpg

[Permagrin]

Sure looks like it to me...bring on the brews!:lol: :lol: :lol:

LOL...that's exactly what that was :lol:

[Permagrin]

I'm going to have to get a set of tubes...you were right about the light on that one too! Nicely used :)

(the dandelion is still my favorite though...the colors behind it added to the sharpness/bokeh of the dandelion, make it spectacular...)

[puddlepirate44]

Is that a skyclad beer maven?? ;)

Sho' 'nuf is! Queen of the Tap!

[Woolburr]

Thanks...I think this will be my spring show entry for the flower category.

[wu_wei0]

Awesome TR as usual!

Does T.D. get groupies now? :grin:
We need to send him to Vegas so he can parachute with the other Elvi!

[Maureen Souza]

Okay Riley and Wool.....so what do I need to know about shooting Macro once I put some ext. tubes on my camera? How close do you get to your subjects?

[puddlepirate44]

We need to send him to Vegas so he can parachute with the other Elvi!

Oh, geez!!! That's funny!!! Elvi !!! hahahahahaha!

[Permagrin]

Thanks...I think this will be my spring show entry for the flower category.

Good idea!

We need to send him to Vegas so he can parachute with the other Elvi!

LOL :lol: He could take his catapult show on the road...hang out with Barry Manilow and Sigfried and Roy...I can see it now "Jailhouse T-BONE!" :lol: :lol: :lol:

[puddlepirate44]

Okay Riley and Wool.....so what do I need to know about shooting Macro once I put some ext. tubes on my camera? How close do you get to your subjects?

When shooting Macro, it's important to not get carried away with shooting. For example, if the subject that you're shooting begins to scrape against the camera's sensor, you're too close.

[wu_wei0]

Sure looks like it to me...bring on the brews!:lol: :lol: :lol:

Yes, my Sultan. ;)

I was from earlier in the day Permie...I liked how it took something as miserable as a dandelion and made it sort of interesting.

Here is another shot with a tubed 85....a bit soft...but the lighting was killer.
http://www.pbase.com/woolburr/image/77759521.jpg
The dandelion was super but this one is. . .makes me. . . aaahhhh.

Sho' 'nuf is! Queen of the Tap!
woohoo!! skyvlad beer maven is back! I have missed her
Thanks...I think this will be my spring show entry for the flower category.
That is a super entry! you have all my votes ;)

Oh, geez!!! That's funny!!! Elvi !!! hahahahahaha!

glad I could give you a chuckle :lol::lol:

[Permagrin]

When shooting Macro, it's important to not get carried away with shooting. For example, if the subject that you're shooting begins to scrape against the camera's sensor, you're too close.

yeah Mo...and if it bites you, just give it the camera, it saves a lot of pain.

btw, hey Puddle, I wonder why Maureen didn't ask US how to macro?

[aussieskier]

When shooting Macro, it's important to not get carried away with shooting. For example, if the subject that you're shooting begins to scrape against the camera's sensor, you're too close.
Yea but most the time your not going to have to worry about that :grin:

I would recommend a tripod, patience and experimentation :).

[puddlepirate44]

yeah Mo...and if it bites you, just give it the camera, it saves a lot of pain.

btw, hey Puddle, I wonder why Maureen didn't ask US how to macro?

Don't know. We're a fount of information. Heck, you're even in the POTN book under Macro. You should be on a lecture circuit.

[aussieskier]

Don't know. We're a fount of information. Heck, you're even in the POTN book under Macro. You should be on a lecture circuit.

Make sure you charge like Bill Clinton does too :D.

[Permagrin]

Don't know. We're a fount of information. Heck, you're even in the POTN book under Macro. You should be on a lecture circuit.

:lol: :rolleyes: (let's not go there shall we?) :lol: :lol:

HEY MO! Another easy way to macro: fall down holding your camera...usually the shutter will go off when you are really close to the ground (clutching wildly to save your camera)...catching the horror in the bugs eyes as you are about to crush the life out of it is really a 1 in a million shot!

[gjl711]

I just learned today that Elvis had an identical twin who died at birth. Imagine two real Elvi.

[Permagrin]

Another easy way to macro: put your camera on a tripod, get the elephant to step a little to the left so it's right in line with the lens, then get the sun to shine right on that coarse skin (not too bright mind you...be stern!) then use the remote shutter release while you are fending of the wild POTN'ers who want to take a few lenses while you are caught up in the moment of your perfect macro...trust me, it's a cinch! I hardly think about macro at all when I'm doing it...

[Woolburr]

You can macro from a tripod...you can macro handheld...you can macro with a bracket and flash...all today's shots were handheld...no flash...existing light...sometimes it is fun to play with a reflector...I just use one of those folding windshield versions...

As far as how close...depends on the lens and the tubes...the 24-70 and tubes is very up close and personal...the 300 f/4 L IS and tubes is much more laid back...best bet is to put on a tube...snap some shots...just keep adding and removing tubes until you get the desired effect. The beauty of digital...you can experiment!

[Permagrin]

huloooooooooo (it suddenly got quiet in here...where is everyone...everyone...everyone......)

[Woolburr]

The ultimate in macro advice....put Permie and the Cap'n on ignore for a while...hehehe;) :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Woolburr]

Still digesting the twin Elvi concept.

[Permagrin]

The ultimate in macro advice....put Permie and the Cap'n on ignore for a while...hehehe;) :lol: :lol: :lol:

HEY! :lol: :lol: I personally think my advice is not only quite useful (she'll thank me when she gets in those situations) it's a heck of a lot more creative than some :lol: :lol:

[Woolburr]

Hehehe...I imagine you would think that.....

[Maureen Souza]

yeah Mo...and if it bites you, just give it the camera, it saves a lot of pain.

btw, hey Puddle, I wonder why Maureen didn't ask US how to macro?
I don't think that really requires an answer...........
:lol: :rolleyes: (let's not go there shall we?) :lol: :lol:

HEY MO! Another easy way to macro: fall down holding your camera...usually the shutter will go off when you are really close to the ground (clutching wildly to save your camera)...catching the horror in the bugs eyes as you are about to crush the life out of it is really a 1 in a million shot!

Another easy way to macro: put your camera on a tripod, get the elephant to step a little to the left so it's right in line with the lens, then get the sun to shine right on that coarse skin (not too bright mind you...be stern!) then use the remote shutter release while you are fending of the wild POTN'ers who want to take a few lenses while you are caught up in the moment of your perfect macro...trust me, it's a cinch! I hardly think about macro at all when I'm doing it...

The ultimate in macro advice....put Permie and the Cap'n on ignore for a while...hehehe;) :lol: :lol: :lol:
Whoa boy...probably the best advice so far.

[Permagrin]

Hehehe...I imagine you would think that.....

(*psssst....I'm not a macro person but don't tell anyone...I work really hard to stay informed you see...*)

[Maureen Souza]

It's not that I don't value your opinions P & P......really! That's not it at all!;)

[Permagrin]

It's not that I don't value your opinions P & P......really! That's not it at all!;)

uh huh...you're not being very convincing over there...(someday you'll thank me...)

[Maureen Souza]

uh huh...you're not being very convincing over there...(someday you'll thank me...)
Well, I have pretty much decided to go to Hawaii August 18-23rd. Airfare is high right now so I am going to gamble and try to book a flight around Aug.10th. Are you still interested in going?

[Permagrin]

Well, I have pretty much decided to go to Hawaii August 18-23rd. Airfare is high right now so I am going to gamble and try to book a flight around Aug.10th. Are you still interested in going?

yes, I am still interested...I think it'd be fun, if we can work out the logisitics.

[Permagrin]

OH AND HEY! THEN I can show you everything I know about macro too :mrgreen:

[Woolburr]

OH AND HEY! THEN I can show you everything I know about macro too :mrgreen:

There is an offer to refuse...ROFL:rolleyes:

[Permagrin]

There is an offer to refuse...ROFL:rolleyes:

:lol: :lol: HEY! :lol: :lol:

[Woolburr]

I know....I know...you had a macro shot make the book and I didn't...go ahead and educate her...it shouldn't take me all that long to unlearn her...hehehe

[Permagrin]

I know....I know...you had a macro shot make the book and I didn't...go ahead and educate her...it shouldn't take me all that long to unlearn her...hehehe

I WAS JUST KIDDING :lol: :lol: my idea of doing a macro is...."Oh pretty.." twist, AF, snap. Viola...I know I'm the last person to give macro advice but I just wanted to be part of the conversation you know :lol: :lol:

[Woolburr]

ROFL...Permie...does the term gullible ring any bells?

[Permagrin]

ROFL...Permie...does the term gullible ring any bells?

:shock: is that what that clanging is? I always wondered :lol: :lol:

[T.D.]

Greetings from Beautiful Downtown Madras Oregon!

Thanks!

I love this lens -- Very light! Very solid! Fast and silent AF! Small... Far zoom! Great color - I am in love with it <3 <3

I hope to get to Ankeny or Ridgefield this Saturday... The Willamette POTN crowd can join me if they wish

I'm free Saturday morning and all day Sunday (I have a 4:00 wedding to go to on Saturday). I'd be up for either.

that's cheap for around here (cut/color weave and eyebrow wax)

I'll do it for half that amount.

Awesome TR as usual!

Does T.D. get groupies now?

I thought I already had them. :confused:

We need to send him to Vegas so he can parachute with the other Elvi!

Hey, I'm going there week after next!

Okay Riley and Wool.....so what do I need to know about shooting Macro once I put some ext. tubes on my camera? How close do you get to your subjects?

Fill the frame! Don't worry about the rest.

Good idea!



LOL :lol: He could take his catapult show on the road...hang out with Barry Manilow and Sigfried and Roy...I can see it now "Jailhouse T-BONE!" :lol: :lol: :lol:

T-Bone was my nickname for Turner. It's ironic that Dan incorporated that into TR. I'm sure I never mentioned it here.


Still digesting the twin Elvi concept.

LOL.