Red-Ringed Tupperware Party with (ineffective) Tin Foil Hats

[timbernet]

I want to go to Wallowa Lake - I hear it is like a mini-switzerland...

[Permagrin]

oooohh -- I would support that.

I'm emailing them now to see if a photography tour is an option...

[Permagrin]

I want to go to Wallowa Lake - I hear it is like a mini-switzerland...

I've never heard of it...(dashes off to google...)

[timbernet]

http://www.josephoregon.com/wallowa_lake.htm

[Permagrin]

that's 8 hrs away from us! :shock: (but beautiful ;) ). I could drive to the Canadian border in less time than it takes to get there though :)

the wolf sanctuary is about an hour and half away...I'm hoping for a favorable email response to a photography tour. If I get one, are any of you interested in it?

[aussieskier]

http://www.josephoregon.com/wallowa_lake.htm
That place is really cool. Too bad it is in Joseph :rolleyes:

[aussieskier]

that's 8 hrs away from us! :shock: (but beautiful ;) ). I could drive to the Canadian border in less time than it takes to get there though :)

the wolf sanctuary is about an hour and half away...I'm hoping for a favorable email response to a photography tour. If I get one, are any of you interested in it?
I would probably be down for it :)

[timbernet]

I would probably be down for it :)

It is 3 hours for us....

Wallowa Lake is 6 hours from us here in Boring - I would be willing to camp there for a weekend....

[Permagrin]

I sort of feel like we've got our own photography club going here in Oregon :)

[timbernet]

I sort of feel like we've got our own photography club going here in Oregon :)

We kinda do... A cyber-club!

[aussieskier]

I know wallowa isn't that far.. its just its in Joseph... :).

We do have a little cyber club. I think we should make a coast meet this summer. Bailey has requested that I take her to the beach and to newport to the the aneomies and see the jelly fish. Maybe we can make an oregon RRTP meet out of it?

[timbernet]

I know wallowa isn't that far.. its just its in Joseph... :).

We do have a little cyber club. I think we should make a coast meet this summer. Bailey has requested that I take her to the beach and to newport to the the aneomies and see the jelly fish. Maybe we can make an oregon RRTP meet out of it?

What is wrong with Joseph?

Speaking of Joseph... The movie "Homeward Bound: The Incredible Journey" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107131/ --- was filmed in Joseph...

[aussieskier]

What is wrong with Joseph?

Speaking of Joseph... The movie "Homeward Bound: The Incredible Journey" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107131/ --- was filmed in Joseph...

Have you been there? Or enterprise? or Cove? :rolleyes:

[timbernet]

Have you been there? Or enterprise? or Cove? :rolleyes:

Umm, no - not yet... Is it as bad as Boring?

[aussieskier]

Umm, no - not yet... Is it as bad as Boring?

Umm think of Dufer only a bit bigger. I mean we have some friends in the area (is that at all surprising) the problem is, its is like most of those little town in E. oregon... there is nothign there or nothing around there for a ways (I mean besides wallowa lake but that is outside of the town...).

Its not bad, but you know what I mean :D

[timbernet]

Umm think of Dufer only a bit bigger. I mean we have some friends in the area (is that at all surprising) the problem is, its is like most of those little town in E. oregon... there is nothign there or nothing around there for a ways (I mean besides wallowa lake but that is outside of the town...).

Its not bad, but you know what I mean :D

Ahh - cool... No problem there.

[Woolburr]

Dang...you Oreganonians are taking over...hehehe

[Jon]

Dang...you Oreganonians are taking over...hehehe
Want to have a Blue Ridge meetup in Little Switzerland in July? We're down in Banner Elk from June 30-July 21. Booked solid the 7th through 15th, but flexible outside that.

[timbernet]

Dang...you Oreganonians are taking over...hehehe

Mwahahahahahah :twisted::evil:

[Permagrin]

Well, I just downloaded a trial version of lightroom. I used it for 20min and then bought it. Having spent 13hrs working on photos yesterday in Aperture, I am amazed at how much faster lightroom moves. I was really skeptical, having tried their beta version and not liked it at all...but they must have worked out the bugs...

Dang you Riley!

[Permagrin]

Want to have a Blue Ridge meetup in Little Switzerland in July? We're down in Banner Elk from June 30-July 21. Booked solid the 7th through 15th, but flexible outside that.

is this someplace in Oregon?

[SuzyView]

Okay, now I am really mad! I have been trying to get Lightroom for weeks now, don't want to pay the big bucks and trying to decide if CS2 or CS3 is more for me. What the heck am I supposed to do now? If you like it so much, I may have to change my mind again!:evil:

[Permagrin]

Question...I'm not used to adobe interfaces...should I export in Adobe RGB (1998) Srgb or prophoto rgb...(aperture uses a mac interface to export...)

[timbernet]

is this someplace in Oregon?

Try North Carolina :-) --- I think there are a lot of "little switzerlands" around...

[timbernet]

Question...I'm not used to adobe interfaces...should I export in Adobe RGB (1998) Srgb or prophoto rgb...(aperture uses a mac interface to export...)

sRGB - that is the most standard. Adrobe RGB 1998 is more for those who print on Ink Jet printers, etc.

[Permagrin]

Okay, now I am really mad! I have been trying to get Lightroom for weeks now, don't want to pay the big bucks and trying to decide if CS2 or CS3 is more for me. What the heck am I supposed to do now? If you like it so much, I may have to change my mind again!:evil:

what do you mean you've been trying to get it?

I like it alot, it actually has a few more functions than aperture and works a heck of a lot faster. I have PE4 that I use for special effects though...I never have used CS2 or 3 so I don't know if they are worth it...PE4 works great for what I want.

[timbernet]

mmmm... CS2/CS3 really are worth it!

[calicokat]

Speaking of him...why's he selling all his gear? Did he ever say?

edit: that's an adorable photo :)

Belmondo is selling some of his glass!! I think this is a sign of the end of the world! :shock:

btw....WHAT IS THIS with the big guns selling their lenses...first Dante, then Pete and now the Chief? I'm starting to feel like my world is shaken up a bit...?!?!?


(oh, check this out...it's got some of the cutest photos I've seen! http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=3134422&postcount=1 )

I will soon be taking over, my master plan of dominance is coming along nicely :evil:

[thomascanty]

Dang!!! I need that missing HD! Lonnie - do you still have a copy of the Prairie Zen chick?

Yep, I do. She's still my cell phone's screensaver/wallpaper, too.

[Permagrin]

I will soon be taking over, my master plan of dominance is coming along nicely :evil:

I was wondering if you were at the back of this :lol:

[SuzyView]

I haven't ordered it from the net yet, still thinking they have good software locally, but really, no one has anything in the stores. Most good software over $100, especially for what I do, can only be ordered on line. I have been using PE5 and like it, but I want to try Lightroom if it does batch editing better than CS2. Also, I have PS7, but don't like it as much as my PE5. I have weddings and events coming up and I don't really want to spend too much time PP. I've read almost every thread here about the Lightroom and CS2 and I'm still not sure yet. I want to spend my extra cash on a 1.4 extender (I was supposed to get two months ago). Actually, spending money on the 70-200 2.8 IS just about killed me since I just got my 5D before Christmas. My bank account is tired of exploding. ;)

[calicokat]

I was wondering if you were at the back of this :lol:

We all have had this thing going, Dante and Pet-Kal have dropped out (but they will be back, don't believe a word they say). Now its Belmondo and me (I am sure there are others) Depending on what he sells, the number is alot closer :eek:

[timbernet]

I haven't ordered it from the net yet, still thinking they have good software locally, but really, no one has anything in the stores. Most good software over $100, especially for what I do, can only be ordered on line. I have been using PE5 and like it, but I want to try Lightroom if it does batch editing better than CS2. Also, I have PS7, but don't like it as much as my PE5. I have weddings and events coming up and I don't really want to spend too much time PP. I've read almost every thread here about the Lightroom and CS2 and I'm still not sure yet. I want to spend my extra cash on a 1.4 extender (I was supposed to get two months ago). Actually, spending money on the 70-200 2.8 IS just about killed me since I just got my 5D before Christmas. My bank account is tired of exploding. ;)

Download the trial - play with it a wee bit.

[Permagrin]

I haven't ordered it from the net yet, still thinking they have good software locally, but really, no one has anything in the stores. Most good software over $100, especially for what I do, can only be ordered on line. I have been using PE5 and like it, but I want to try Lightroom if it does batch editing better than CS2. Also, I have PS7, but don't like it as much as my PE5. I have weddings and events coming up and I don't really want to spend too much time PP. I've read almost every thread here about the Lightroom and CS2 and I'm still not sure yet. I want to spend my extra cash on a 1.4 extender (I was supposed to get two months ago). Actually, spending money on the 70-200 2.8 IS just about killed me since I just got my 5D before Christmas. My bank account is tired of exploding. ;)

Yeah, I understand that! Try the trial versions...you can download them from the web (I only did lightroom now because the special price is supposed to end) and see if you like them.

[timbernet]

Yeah, I understand that! Try the trial versions...you can download them from the web (I only did lightroom now because the special price is supposed to end) and see if you like them.

Hate to break it to you Permie --- the special price is gone :-( --- I found out after it ended...

[SuzyView]

We all have had this thing going, Dante and Pet-Kal have dropped out (but they will be back, don't believe a word they say). Now its Belmondo and me (I am sure there are others) Depending on what he sells, the number is alot closer :eek:

Have you both published your gear lists recently? Curious to know how bad it really is.;):p

[calicokat]

what do you mean you've been trying to get it?

I like it alot, it actually has a few more functions than aperture and works a heck of a lot faster. I have PE4 that I use for special effects though...I never have used CS2 or 3 so I don't know if they are worth it...PE4 works great for what I want.

I have CS2, but I use DPP for 99% of my work, I really enjoy it, I find the images to be sharper when converted in DPP as opposed to CS2. The only time I use CS2 is when I make some very specialty changes or enhancements.

[Permagrin]

Hate to break it to you Permie --- the special price is gone :-( --- I found out after it ended...

what was the special price then?

[timbernet]

I have passed Sari in RRTP posts - next up: Puddles!

[timbernet]

what was the special price then?

It was $199 - now it is $299 :evil:

[SuzyView]

Yeah, I understand that! Try the trial versions...you can download them from the web (I only did lightroom now because the special price is supposed to end) and see if you like them.

Thanks. I am going to download the free version tonight on my main computer. Right now my 7 year old is playing on it: Cartoon Network Big Fat Awesome House Party. My poor desktop.:rolleyes:

[calicokat]

Have you both published your gear lists recently? Curious to know how bad it really is.;):p

Mine is current, I think Belmondo was up to 18, but thats coming down to earth it seems :eek:

[Permagrin]

I have CS2, but I use DPP for 99% of my work, I really enjoy it, I find the images to be sharper when converted in DPP as opposed to CS2. The only time I use CS2 is when I make some very specialty changes or enhancements.

I never sharpen in PE either (and I bought nik sharpener pro) but Aperture does a much better job at sharpening... I hope lightroom will. I only use photoshop for effects/filters...all my batch processing has been done in aperture.

[calicokat]

what was the special price then?

The $199 was a promotional price that expired recently

[Permagrin]

It was $199 - now it is $299 :evil:

nononono...I bought it for $199. Amazon still has them at that price. :D

edit: but I didn't buy mine there...but they DO have it for that still

[calicokat]

I never sharpen in PE either (and I bought nik sharpener pro) but Aperture does a much better job at sharpening... I hope lightroom will. I only use photoshop for effects/filters...all my batch processing has been done in aperture.

I tried batch processing a few times but did not like, though its very time consuming (thank goodness for down time at work), I like to work through every single photo individually

Does anyone else use or like DPP, I am really happy with it, I think its easier to use than CS2 for raw conversions

[SuzyView]

Thanks.

[timbernet]

I tried batch processing a few times but did not like, though its very time consuming (thank goodness for down time at work), I like to work through every single photo individually

Does anyone else use or like DPP, I am really happy with it, I think its easier to use than CS2 for raw conversions

I've tried DPP -- at this Canon Macro workshop we Oregon RRTP members went to - the Canon folk were saying how Adobe CS2 RAW messes up the colors compared to DPP.... I just don't like the interface on DPP .... but then again, I am used to CS2.


I am demo'ing BibblePro right now - I LIKE IT so far...

[Permagrin]

omg...this program is so cool!! on the histogram adjustments alone you can adjust fill light, exposure, highlights and blacks...not just blacks/whites and grays...and it's GOT CURVES...I've missed curves :)


sorry Cat...never used DPP

[wu_wei0]

Yep, I do. She's still my cell phone's screensaver/wallpaper, too.

She'd be an appropriate entry to Peter's contest.
I still haven't found that hard drive.

[Pete]

A couple of recent treatments... You've seen these, but these are the super-scarey versions...

http://www.the-aperture.com/EE/photos/large/IMG_2136.jpg

http://www.the-aperture.com/EE/photos/large/IMG_2129_crop.jpg

[calicokat]

I've tried DPP -- at this Canon Macro workshop we Oregon RRTP members went to - the Canon folk were saying how Adobe CS2 RAW messes up the colors compared to DPP.... I just don't like the interface on DPP .... but then again, I am used to CS2.


I am demo'ing BibblePro right now - I LIKE IT so far...

One thing about DPP that I like is the Picture Styles, I like the landscape style which is essentially added contrast and saturation, but its easy to go back and forth in DPP. Now why would someone like me want this Lightroom thing :) I hear lots of good things (Lisa ;) )

[Permagrin]

I tried batch processing a few times but did not like, though its very time consuming (thank goodness for down time at work), I like to work through every single photo individually

Does anyone else use or like DPP, I am really happy with it, I think its easier to use than CS2 for raw conversions

I guess I should say that I batch process in groups...a certain pose/light etc (and the myriad of similar shots) get the same processing but the next set will be a different batch...so I don't process everything from one shoot the same..

[Permagrin]

and it's got lens correction settings (aperture didn't have that). With the 5D, a fall off correction is instrumental so that I don't have to take EVERY photo to photoshop to dodge :confused: sorry, but I'm really thrilled with the updates to this...(and I HATED the beta version)...

[calicokat]

I guess I should say that I batch process in groups...a certain pose/light etc (and the myriad of similar shots) get the same processing but the next set will be a different batch...so I don't process everything from one shoot the same..

I am watching the Lightroom Tutorial at Adobe.com, so far I like the histogram slider the best

[Permagrin]

AND it's got chromatic aberration correction for BOTH sets of CA colors (sadly the 85 1.2L has a bit of CA...go figure...)

[Permagrin]

I am watching the Lightroom Tutorial at Adobe.com, so far I like the histogram slider the best

hey, good idea...I should watch that...

[aussieskier]

I LOVE LIGHTROOM!!!!!!!

I only have 3 days left on the trial. I am pretty darn sure I am going to buy it. I get it for 99 :). Benefits of college tutition I guess :)

I like the Idea of non-destructive editing and presets.

[calicokat]

hey, good idea...I should watch that...

The more I watch it, the more I wonder why you would need CS2 and Lightroom, sounds like Lightroom is a cheaper alternative to CS2, and it sounds more user friendly

[Permagrin]

I LOVE LIGHTROOM!!!!!!!

I only have 3 days left on the trial. I am pretty darn sure I am going to buy it. I get it for 99 :). Benefits of college tutition I guess :)

I like the Idea of non-destructive editing and presets.

yeah, aperture did the non-destructive editing too...I don't understand about their presets though...I think I will go watch the tutorial...

[Permagrin]

The more I watch it, the more I wonder why you would need CS2 and Lightroom, sounds like Lightroom is a cheaper alternative to CS2, and it sounds more user friendly

that's what I was thinking...like I said, I use the PE4 for filters and creative adjustments that I only do occasionally...otherwise I just want a photo editor...

[calicokat]

yeah, aperture did the non-destructive editing too...I don't understand about their presets though...I think I will go watch the tutorial...

Non destructive editing, isn't that what Raw files are for???

[calicokat]

that's what I was thinking...like I said, I use the PE4 for filters and creative adjustments that I only do occasionally...otherwise I just want a photo editor...

Thats me as well, I rarely, and I mean rarely get into the creative side of photoshop, I still do not understand half the advanced stuff. I try and get it right in camera with Raw (which I still think is the greatest thing ever) then convert. Sounds like this Lightroom may work for me. I am thinking its a middle ground between DPP and CS2 :D

[aussieskier]

The more I watch it, the more I wonder why you would need CS2 and Lightroom, sounds like Lightroom is a cheaper alternative to CS2, and it sounds more user friendly

I only really open PS for resizing, framing and sharpening. Once they make the changes to the sharpening in Lightroom (supposedly in 1.1) I won't really have a use for it.

yeah, aperture did the non-destructive editing too...I don't understand about their presets though...I think I will go watch the tutorial...

Some of us don't have Macs :grin:

Non destructive editing, isn't that what Raw files are for???

Yea, but there are occassions when I want to make changes to a TIFF of Jpg that has been exported in the past :)

[calicokat]

I only really open PS for resizing, framing and sharpening. Once they make the changes to the sharpening in Lightroom (supposedly in 1.1) I won't really have a use for it.



Some of us don't have Macs :grin:



Yea, but there are occassions when I want to make changes to a TIFF of Jpg that has been exported in the past :)

I have always re-converted the Raw file again when making any significant changes :eek:

[puddlepirate44]

Cat, do you have a link for the video tutorial for Lightroom? We're trying to find it so we can watch it....

[calicokat]

Click on "View Feature Tour"

http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshoplightroom/

[puddlepirate44]

Click on "View Feature Tour"

http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshoplightroom/

Thanks.

[aussieskier]

I have always re-converted the Raw file again when making any significant changes :eek:

I am getting better at PP and my workflow has changed but sometimes I will make fine adjustments to tiffs etc... But most the time I am working in raw so it is no big deal.

[calicokat]

I am getting better at PP and my workflow has changed but sometimes I will make fine adjustments to tiffs etc... But most the time I am working in raw so it is no big deal.

I am the first to say that my PP skills are ok at best. Lisa did my watermark for me, I still can't get that right :eek: (thanks again Lisa ;) ) But I guess I am learning, I have made it this far, forces me to get things right in camera, because its hard for me to rescue much of anything

[aussieskier]

The presets are awesome, they are basically exposure, curves BW settings etc that you can automatically apply to an image. For example I have BW preset that I have made for different styles of pictures, I just select all the ones I want like that and use th epreset and they all get that. I can go back through and make changes and fine tune thing as I go. I really like the options available in Lightroom over ACR for making changes to RAW files (It is the same in CS3 however, but I don't have it :)).

[aussieskier]

I am the first to say that my PP skills are ok at best. Lisa did my watermark for me, I still can't get that right :eek: (thanks again Lisa ;) ) But I guess I am learning, I have made it this far, forces me to get things right in camera, because its hard for me to rescue much of anything
Its all a learning process right :).

I can't wait to see what they come out with for changes to the sharpening tool in LR, then I will finally have a quick to web with watermark workflow and life will be good :D

[calicokat]

Its all a learning process right :).

I can't wait to see what they come out with for changes to the sharpening tool in LR, then I will finally have a quick to web with watermark workflow and life will be good :D

Whats wrong with the sharpening now, and what are they adding/changing

[timbernet]

Its all a learning process right :).

I can't wait to see what they come out with for changes to the sharpening tool in LR, then I will finally have a quick to web with watermark workflow and life will be good :D

If I buy LR now - will the upgrade with the better sharpening be free? OR should I just wait?

[Permagrin]

I am the first to say that my PP skills are ok at best. Lisa did my watermark for me, I still can't get that right :eek: (thanks again Lisa ;) ) But I guess I am learning, I have made it this far, forces me to get things right in camera, because its hard for me to rescue much of anything

You're welcome Cat.


Riley, I saw that I could include a watermark on lightroom but it doesn't say how...do you know?

[aussieskier]

Whats wrong with the sharpening now, and what are they adding/changing

Personally, I like to resize for output size. Currently it is all done for the full size image and then it is just resized when you export.

I have been trying to find more details on exactly what they are doing, from what I have been able to find over on the feature request forum on Adobe's website, is that they are going to make it more featured and be more like USM in PS. Don't qoute me, as is expected they are kinda tight lipped, so I don't know for sure, that is just what I am gathering.

[calicokat]

Hmmm,I sharpen the full size image, but I upload full size images to Smugmug, so thats not a problem. Perma, what upload tool do you use for Smugmug, do you upload full size images or smaller

[aussieskier]

I guess I should say that it really isn't a deal breaker for me. I use lots of the other stuff in there so sharpening outside of LR isn't that big of a deal. It just takes more time. But oh well, I still think I am ahead of the game compared to bridge and ACR.

[timbernet]

Check this out from Corey:
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=279183

[calicokat]

Check this out from Corey:
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=279183

Thanks for the link, looks like I need to get Lightroom :eek:

[Permagrin]

Hmmm,I sharpen the full size image, but I upload full size images to Smugmug, so thats not a problem. Perma, what upload tool do you use for Smugmug, do you upload full size images or smaller

I upload full size jpegs...I don't resize (because smugmug doesn't accept raw so a full size jpeg isn't usually too big for them), I just use the smugmug options for posting on the web. I just finished the video...and downloaded the full program.

Another thing that's really nice about this program is that I can have it running in two locations (desktop and laptop) at the same time. Aperture doesn't let us do that so we have to take turns downloading and using it even though we're on different computers.

[Permagrin]

we bought our lightroom locally at the mac store for the old price...perhaps because it was stock on hand...

[calicokat]

I upload full size jpegs...I don't resize (because smugmug doesn't accept raw so a full size jpeg isn't usually too big for them), I just use the smugmug options for posting on the web. I just finished the video...and downloaded the full program.

Another thing that's really nice about this program is that I can have it running in two locations (desktop and laptop) at the same time. Aperture doesn't let us do that so we have to take turns downloading and using it even though we're on different computers.

I have to downsize some of the 1DsMII files, smugmug allows up to 16.0mb, most of the 1DsMII files are 20.0 and up :eek:

[timbernet]

I am really tempted - but $200.... I could get a macro for near that....

[aussieskier]

I am really tempted - but $200.... I could get a macro for near that....
Just wait 3 months till you start school :D

[timbernet]

Just wait 3 months till you start school :D

Oh yeah - that works as well...

[thomascanty]

She'd be an appropriate entry to Peter's contest.
I still haven't found that hard drive.

Do you want me to send the file to you?

[Jamie Holladay]

Try North Carolina :-) --- I think there are a lot of "little switzerlands" around...
Yeah and great roads to drive on too. I got an Idea! How about May 16-19 at Fontana Village, NC. Great time to shoot some cars and some craZy (pardon the pun) driving.

[Jamie Holladay]

speaking of Fontana Village, Wool how far are you from there?

[aussieskier]

Perm.. I just remember something cool about lightroom. With you 85 you said you get a bit of CA, you can make a preset that you can apply (even on import) to the shots taken with you 85 that will get rid of the CA :)

[Permagrin]

Riley, did you download those 80 free presets from on one? Talk about WOW!!!

[aussieskier]

Riley, did you download those 80 free presets from on one? Talk about WOW!!!

Yea, i removed them, it was annoying to me that they only made one little change per thing. There were some nifty things in there though.

Another I like about lightroom is that curvers are much easier to use than in PS...

[Permagrin]

Yea, i removed them, it was annoying to me that they only made one little change per thing. There were some nifty things in there though.

Another I like about lightroom is that curvers are much easier to use than in PS...

curves is really easy here I like it alot..

[aussieskier]

You like it better (0verall) than Aperture?

[SuzyView]

I just got the B&H summer catalog and they have it for $199 as well. Since they advertise it for the whole summer, the price is good for it. I will download the free trial and see if I like it and thanks for linking the tutorial. I have a minute tonight during American Idol and basketball playoffs to play with it. Maybe I'll actually get something done. :) It can happen. This forum is killing my clean the house time.;)

[Permagrin]

You like it better (0verall) than Aperture?

Well, I've only owned it for two hours so it's hard to say. It does have more features than aperture and is easier to use. It's faster so far anway...but I haven't put it through a 500 photo shoot yet...just a couple of irises... :mrgreen: so overall, this has been a VERY positive $200 spent. I'll probably play with it for a while yet and see if it can do everything that aperture can do. I'm still not figuring out the watermark thing...did you explain that and I missed it?


Suzy do watch the tutorial (it's a fast explanation of what it can do) but definitely play with it...my gosh I'm amazed at it.

[SuzyView]

Suzy do watch the tutorial (it's a fast explanation of what it can do) but definitely play with it...my gosh I'm amazed at it.

Watching it later when kids are asleep and I can actually concerntrate on something. This is a problem of having 2 sets of sons: 2 in college, 2 7 and 9 year olds. The little ones always speak to me like I am listening to them as they go on and on about bugs. :rolleyes:

[aussieskier]

Well, I've only owned it for two hours so it's hard to say. It does have more features than aperture and is easier to use. It's faster so far anway...but I haven't put it through a 500 photo shoot yet...just a couple of irises... :mrgreen: so overall, this has been a VERY positive $200 spent. I'll probably play with it for a while yet and see if it can do everything that aperture can do. I'm still not figuring out the watermark thing...did you explain that and I missed it?


Suzy do watch the tutorial (it's a fast explanation of what it can do) but definitely play with it...my gosh I'm amazed at it.

I thought you had tried the trial version first... guess that what I get for speed reading posts :grin:

These are some good video as well..

http://www.photoshopuser.com/lightroom/index.html

[Permagrin]

I thought you had tried the trial version first... guess that what I get for speed reading posts :grin:

These are some good video as well..

http://www.photoshopuser.com/lightroom/index.html

I tried it for 20 min but was SO amazed at how fast it is compared to aperture, I called our local apple store and asked them if they had it...they did and we bought it. So far nothing has disappointed me though...so far ;)

I'll check out that tutorial

[SuzyView]

Hey, I just looked at what Belmondo has on his big sale. Oh, I wish I had the money for the 135. That is a sweet lens. Nothing on the list I need, but he's really going to have some big cash when he's done.

[Permagrin]

Hey, I just looked at what Belmondo has on his big sale. Oh, I wish I had the money for the 135. That is a sweet lens. Nothing on the list I need, but he's really going to have some big cash when he's done.

yeah, that's how I felt about the 35L...I WANT IT!

[aussieskier]

Hey, I just looked at what Belmondo has on his big sale. Oh, I wish I had the money for the 135. That is a sweet lens. Nothing on the list I need, but he's really going to have some big cash when he's done.

yeah, that's how I felt about the 35L...I WANT IT!
Pssh... Small fries.. I feel that way about the 600!


Oh... wait its not for sale? Fine, I still stand by my words!:lol:

[Belmondo]

Anybody know anything about CAT 5 wiring?


Oh.



Moooooo.:p

[calicokat]

Anybody know anything about CAT 5 wiring?


Oh.



Moooooo.:p

I know about Cats ;)

[thomascanty]

yeah, that's how I felt about the 35L...I WANT IT!

Pssh... Small fries.. I feel that way about the 600!

I wouldn't know what to do with either one...

But his 17-40 is on the market?!? I'd never even consider selling mine! :shock:

[aussieskier]

I wouldn't know what to do with either one...

But his 17-40 is on the market?!? I'd never even consider selling mine! :shock:

You seem to imply that you need to :rolleyes:

[Belmondo]

I know about Cats ;)I tried plugging an ethernet cable into my cat. She was not amused.

[Belmondo]

But his 17-40 is on the market?!? I'd never even consider selling mine! :shock:I have a 16-35L (early version, but still good).

[timbernet]

Anybody know anything about CAT 5 wiring?


Oh.



Moooooo.:p

White-Orange Orange White-Green Blue White-Blue Green White-Brown Brown


Hehe - yea - what do you need to know?

[thomascanty]

You seem to imply that you need to :rolleyes:

I do? Sorry... It was an accident. Won't happen again...

[Permagrin]

well, a fleur from today (and my first edit in lightroom ;) )

http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/149024393-L.jpg

[aussieskier]

well, a fleur from today (and my first edit in lightroom ;) )



Pretty flor there perm. Nice edit ;)

[thomascanty]

I have a 16-35L (early version, but still good).

Well, that's a relief! :D

I rented a 16-35 a couple times. I'd just about made up my mind to buy one when Canon announced the 17-40. I bought that instead. It was my first L...

The 17-40 also has the dubious distinction of being the only lens I've ever had to send back for repair, when it died 32 days after I bought it. One day earlier and Samy's would have let me just exchange it for another. :rolleyes:

[Woolburr]

speaking of Fontana Village, Wool how far are you from there?

Only a bit over an hour...

[Woolburr]

Want to have a Blue Ridge meetup in Little Switzerland in July? We're down in Banner Elk from June 30-July 21. Booked solid the 7th through 15th, but flexible outside that.

I suspect we can work something out...lots of little attractions in that area to shoot. Linville Falls isn't far from there.

[Woolburr]

And I use DPP for RAW converstions.

[T.D.]

I want to go to Wallowa Lake - I hear it is like a mini-switzerland...

It's beautiful - but I wouldn't call it a mini-Switzerland. The gondola ride up Mt. Howard is a trip. You scrape the trees. Kind of freaky!

that's 8 hrs away from us! :shock: (but beautiful ;) ). I could drive to the Canadian border in less time than it takes to get there though :)

the wolf sanctuary is about an hour and half away...I'm hoping for a favorable email response to a photography tour. If I get one, are any of you interested in it?

It really is beautiful there (Joseph/Wallowa). I'm not a big eastern Oregon fan, but Joseph is really beautiful.

I'd definitely be up for a trip to the Wolf place.


I know wallowa isn't that far.. its just its in Joseph... :).

We do have a little cyber club. I think we should make a coast meet this summer. Bailey has requested that I take her to the beach and to newport to the the aneomies and see the jelly fish. Maybe we can make an oregon RRTP meet out of it?


You know I'm up for it...and having lived there for years I know a lot of out of the way places....

[Belmondo]

White-Orange Orange White-Green Blue White-Blue Green White-Brown Brown


Hehe - yea - what do you need to know?I'm trying to move some of my office into the adjacent room. I want to do something a little more elegant than just poke a hole through the wall and run an ethernet cable through it.

I'd like to install RJ-45 jacks on opposite sides of the wall, and I have them already. The connections on the backs of the jacks (hey, that rhymes!) are the IDC punch-type dealies.

It seems to me that I'm going to have to reverse a couple of the wire pairs (if not all of them) on the short connection between the two jacks. One side will be plugged into the router, and the other side will be connected to the computer on the other side of the wall.

Does that make sense?

[timbernet]

I'm trying to move some of my office into the adjacent room. I want to do something a little more elegant than just poke a hole through the wall and run an ethernet cable through it.

I'd like to install RJ-45 jacks on opposite sides of the wall, and I have them already. The connections on the backs of the jacks (hey, that rhymes!) are the IDC punch-type dealies.

It seems to me that I'm going to have to reverse a couple of the wire pairs (if not all of them) on the short connection between the two jacks. One side will be plugged into the router, and the other side will be connected to the computer on the other side of the wall.

Does that make sense?

On your jacks - keep them both the same (I use the 568B color standard) - then use different cables from the jack to the end-device.

[Permagrin]

here's this evening's "TR's"

"Banished!"
http://tuppervilleranch.com/comics/65Banished.jpg

"Time to take the bull by the horns"
http://tuppervilleranch.com/comics/66ozbullbyhorns.jpg

[aussieskier]

I'm trying to move some of my office into the adjacent room. I want to do something a little more elegant than just poke a hole through the wall and run an ethernet cable through it.

I'd like to install RJ-45 jacks on opposite sides of the wall, and I have them already. The connections on the backs of the jacks (hey, that rhymes!) are the IDC punch-type dealies.

It seems to me that I'm going to have to reverse a couple of the wire pairs (if not all of them) on the short connection between the two jacks. One side will be plugged into the router, and the other side will be connected to the computer on the other side of the wall.

Does that make sense?

We don't take kind to that elegant stuff here in Boring :rolleyes::rolleyes:

You shouldn't reverse the pairs, it would be like a normal straight-thru patch cable.

[timbernet]

Actually - if you are going from router to PC --- straight-through all the way... no need for funny cables - no need to reverse pairs - just straight-through...

*edit* yea, riley cleared that up

[aussieskier]

here's this evening's "TR's"

"Banished!"



"Time to take the bull by the horns"


These always make me chuckle. I look forward to them all day!

[aussieskier]

Actually - if you are going from router to PC --- straight-through all the way... no need for funny cables - no need to reverse pairs - just straight-through...

*edit* yea, riley cleared that up

I've got your back :)

[Belmondo]

We don't take kind to that elegant stuff here in Boring :rolleyes::rolleyes:

You shouldn't reverse the pairs, it would be like a normal straight-thru patch cable.

Actually - if you are going from router to PC --- straight-through all the way... no need for funny cables - no need to reverse pairs - just straight-through...

*edit* yea, riley cleared that upOkay, I wire both jacks the same way. It shows two different methods of wiring---EIA/TIA-568A and EIA/TIA-568B. Is there a difference? (the backs of the jacks are color-coded for both schemes).

[calicokat]

I tried plugging an ethernet cable into my cat. She was not amused.

LOL, lets see a pic of that :lol:

[Belmondo]

here's this evening's "TR's"

"Banished!"
http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/146576525-L.jpg

"Time to take the bull by the horns"
http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/146576609-L.jpgUh oh. The Wizard is in big trouble now. :shock:

:lol::lol:

[timbernet]

Okay, I wire both jacks the same way. It shows two different methods of wiring---EIA/TIA-568A and EIA/TIA-568B. Is there a difference? (the backs of the jacks are color-coded for both schemes).

568B is the new standard and the one I use --- but if you wire one 568A and one 568B you make a cross-over (which you don't want)

Stick with 568B...

[Permagrin]

Uh oh. The Wizard is in big trouble now. :shock:

:lol::lol:

LOL!! You have NO IDEA! :lol:

[Belmondo]

568B is the new standard and the one I use --- but if you wire one 568A and one 568B you make a cross-over (which you don't want)

Stick with 568B...Thanks.

I'm not sure if I'm jealous more because you're younger than I, or because you're obviously smarter. Whatever....something has me annoyed.:lol:

[timbernet]

Thanks.

I'm not sure if I'm jealous more because you're younger than I, or because you're obviously smarter. Whatever....something has me annoyed.:lol:

Don't feel bad... I have wasted many connectors, many jacks, and many, many, many feet of cable!

I was just telling Riley that in the past two years I have bought 8 boxes of Cat5... at 1000' per box - so 1.5Miles of Cat5 cable...

[Permagrin]

Thanks.

I'm not sure if I'm jealous more because you're younger than I, or because you're obviously smarter. Whatever....something has me annoyed.:lol:

:lol: :lol: Just remember Chief, you've got the beauty in the family ;)

[calicokat]

Be nice to the lens forum folk, most of us got started there asking the same questions they keep asking :lol:

[timbernet]

:lol: :lol: Just remember Chief, you've got the beauty in the family ;)

And the new baby!

[calicokat]

And I use DPP for RAW converstions.

At least someone other than me does :D

[timbernet]

Be nice to the lens forum folk, most of us got started there asking the same questions they keep asking :lol:

I just ran a search in the lens forum to see what threads I started - not one was about "is this one better than this one" --- "is this soft" "f/4IS or f/2.8" - etc...

They were all "look at the bokeh on this thing!"

[Permagrin]

okay as an FYI...the watermark option in Lightroom is definitely a bummer...Aperture wins that round but so far, nothing else.

[Belmondo]

LOL!! You have NO IDEA! :lol:If the Wizard was really angry, he would have sent them to the Wedding forum.

[Permagrin]

I just ran a search in the lens forum to see what threads I started - not one was about "is this one better than this one" --- "is this soft" "f/4IS or f/2.8" - etc...

They were all "look at the bokeh on this thing!"

mmmmmmm bokeh ;)

[calicokat]

I just ran a search in the lens forum to see what threads I started - not one was about "is this one better than this one" --- "is this soft" "f/4IS or f/2.8" - etc...

They were all "look at the bokeh on this thing!"

I asked what the best lens to photograph lava fields in Hawaii was :eek:

What about the rest, what posts as newbie's did you make ;)

[Permagrin]

If the Wizard was really angry, he would have sent them to the Wedding forum.

LOL Chief...you're mind is SO devious! (and I'm thinking that Puddle's got you pegged so stay tuned for future episodes ;) )....

[calicokat]

Beautiful flower Lisa, seems your having lots of fun with Lightroom

[Permagrin]

I asked what the best lens to photograph lava fields in Hawaii was :eek:

What about the rest, what posts as newbie's did you make ;)

My first post was that I wanted to get rid of my MKIIN because I wasn't using it (because it was too heavy). Everyone told me I was an idiot (roughly) and needed to go to a gym...

[Belmondo]

LOL Chief...you're mind is SO devious! (and I'm thinking that Puddle's got you pegged so stay tuned for future episodes ;) ).... Yikes!!

[aussieskier]

okay as an FYI...the watermark option in Lightroom is definitely a bummer...Aperture wins that round but so far, nothing else.
There are some rumors about this one too be changed in a 1.1 update :D

[calicokat]

My first post was that I wanted to get rid of my MKIIN because I wasn't using it (because it was too heavy). Everyone told me I was an idiot (roughly) and needed to go to a gym...

My biggest oops, was asking the wedding folk if the 24-105L was acceptable, got slammed pretty hard on that one :cry:

[Permagrin]

Beautiful flower Lisa, seems your having lots of fun with Lightroom

thanks :)...yes it's really user friendly (having used aperture many of the options are very similar) and it's SO MUCH faster (did I say FASTER because I MEANT FASTER than aperture. Even with the ram maxed out on my laptop, aperture still ran slow...

[calicokat]

Alright, who ordered from B&H with overnight delivery

http://calicokat.smugmug.com/photos/144361470-M.jpg

[calicokat]

thanks :)...yes it's really user friendly (having used aperture many of the options are very similar) and it's SO MUCH faster (did I say FASTER because I MEANT FASTER than aperture. Even with the ram maxed out on my laptop, aperture still ran slow...

I would love to hear what you think of DPP, have you ever used it. Just wondering how it stakes up against Lightroom for Raw Conversions

[Permagrin]

I would love to hear what you think of DPP, have you ever used it. Just wondering how it stakes up against Lightroom for Raw Conversions

I've only used dpp a few times so I wouln't be a fair judge. Have you thought about downloading the trial for lightroom and doing a comparison (with a few photos?)