Red-Ringed Tupperware Party with (ineffective) Tin Foil Hats

[wu_wei0]

Sooo... is that a challenge? Have you thrown the gauntlet? :)

I wonder if my son is sitting down in his room, studying some piece of electronics, and suddenly feeling this complete sense of pressure out of nowhere.... :shock:

no challenge, no gauntlet. It's all family. :)

[puddlepirate44]

no challenge, no gauntlet. It's all family. :)

Riiiight. I get it. So it's either my son, or my "nephew". ;) Great thread... Lens reviews, Bird-in-Flight advice, and matchmaking services. Wild.

[Lightstream]

Sooo... is that a challenge? Have you thrown the gauntlet? :)

I wonder if my son is sitting down in his room, studying some piece of electronics, and suddenly feeling this complete sense of pressure out of nowhere.... :shock:

http://pix.lightrefineries.org/img/crackup.gif

The plotting which goes on behind ones' back :D

you're correct.
SOmetimes I have the camera with me and just stand and watch something. but sometimes that just waht needs to be done- experience it through more than that tiny viewfinder.
although, I wish I had had my glasses on this morning. :)


So true! Sari posted a thread about experiencing vs composing and I find I need to experience a place before I can start shooting. If I don't take that time, the first dozen shots WILL be crap. This is pretty much assured ;)

Yeah glasses would help :D I would definitely head back in for mine.. no, mine are on from the moment I wake up because I am as blind as you can imagine without them.

You referred to the hawk as your brother.. so I am not the only one who feels a certain connection with specific animals? (not the hawk though, mine's different)

[Lightstream]

Riiiight. I get it. So it's either my son, or my "nephew". ;) Great thread... Lens reviews, Bird-in-Flight advice, and matchmaking services. Wild.

This IS the red-ringed tupperware party after all....how prophetic the name..... :)

Wooooooool is wiiiiiiiiise...

[Permagrin]

Riiiight. I get it. So it's either my son, or my "nephew". ;) Great thread... Lens reviews, Bird-in-Flight advice, and matchmaking services. Wild.

You got it, Puddle dear. Now be nice to your sister in law...we may have a Swedish niece one of these days ;)

You referred to the hawk as your brother.. so I am not the only one who feels a certain connection with specific animals? (not the hawk though, mine's different)

wolf.

Mine is a tiger. (or a tiger shark ;) )....

[Lightstream]

Mine is a tiger.

Must be puddle in that case - the tiger.. ;)

[puddlepirate44]

Must be puddle in that case - the tiger.. ;)

mee-yoww ;)

[Lightstream]

mee-yoww ;)

Cat by day, the BEAST at night? ;)

[puddlepirate44]

Cat by day, the BEAST at night? ;)

What happens in the cave, stays in the cave, mister... ;)

[Lightstream]

What happens in the cave, stays in the cave, mister... ;)


ssssssh ;)

[wu_wei0]

You referred to the hawk as your brother.. so I am not the only one who feels a certain connection with specific animals? (not the hawk though, mine's different)
Yes I do. two, actually- comes from my childhood. But the red tailed hawk is my brother.

[Lightstream]

Cool :)

The other one had better not be the cow!! ;)

[Permagrin]

Cat by day, the BEAST at night? ;)

Do beasts Imperially strut around?

[Lightstream]

Do beasts Imperially strut around?


Tigers are imperial enough to qualify....I would say they do :D

[puddlepirate44]

Do beasts Imperially strut around?

Boo-yah! Strutting imperially is key!

[Woolburr]

He is my favorite, too. I saw him in as ad for some craft paints many years ago, copied him onto some wood and painted him up.

All your Santas are fantastic. I'm seriously impressed!

[wu_wei0]

Cool :)

The other one had better not be the cow!! ;)

Nope. not the cow, cannibal or otherwise.

[Lightstream]

http://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2382015&postcount=114

Liza.. looking good there!!

And the second photo.. I'm surprised he didn't drop the camera! That glare would scare the daylights outta most people, not just kids! ;)

I need to get one of myself one of these days... I can just imagine mounting my little A530 on an Arca-Swiss compatible QR plate, on a 26 pound rated ballhead, sitting on top of a tripod rated for 15 pounds, to take a pic of myself in timer mode carrying my 5D and 100-400 ;)

[liza]

Tigers are imperial enough to qualify....I would say they do :D

Just for you, Permie!

http://emphotography.smugmug.com/photos/79474028-L.jpg

[liza]

http://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2382015&postcount=114

Liza.. looking good there!!

And the second photo.. I'm surprised he didn't drop the camera! That glare would scare the daylights outta most people, not just kids! ;)



Hey, I just posted that! And Wyatt was being an annoying little snot that day, thus the glare. :lol:

[Lightstream]

Yeah for some reason I am subscribed to that thread and see the notifications, although I can't quite recall why I was interested in it.. ;)

Oh yeah, I was engaged in the guessing contest that cwphoto hosted..

[liza]

It's kind of nice to see what others on the forum actually look like. It gives one a point of reference so it isn't so much like talking to a disembodied spirit.

[Lightstream]

Something tells me I will probably live to regret it, but I'll try and get a shot of myself done later ;)

[Woolburr]

This IS the red-ringed tupperware party after all....how prophetic the name..... :)

Wooooooool is wiiiiiiiiise...

Or a lucky guesser.

[Permagrin]

I'm having trouble staying connected to POTN tonight...grrr

Puddle says he's going out to get us coffee. He wants to know what you all want? Oh Wool, he says he knows you don't like coffee (and I'm quoting here so don't shoot the messenger) "I'll get him a passion tea"...
Just for you, Permie!
]

Thanks Liza...that's great! I LOVE the snarl!

It's kind of nice to see what others on the forum actually look like. It gives one a point of reference so it isn't so much like talking to a disembodied spirit.

True. It does help

Something tells me I will probably live to regret it, but I'll try and get a shot of myself done later ;)

I wanna see!

Or a lucky guesser.

that's got my vote ;)

[Lightstream]

"I'll get him a passion tea"...


http://pix.lightrefineries.org/img/crackup.gifWHAHAHAHHAHAHAA.....


I wanna see!



Why does 'moon shot' come to mind? And this has nothing to do with shooting the celestial body with the 100-400 mindya.... ;)

[Woolburr]

Permie...tell PP to save his hard earned coin....I don't drink any hot drinks....I like cold....

[Permagrin]

Permie...tell PP to save his hard earned coin....I don't drink any hot drinks....I like cold....

He's already gone...nobody ordered in time...

I hope he doesn't come back with your tea then...because I'm not fond of it in any flavor.

He likes cold too...even on winter days...I don't get it. If I froze my inside whilst my extremities too were frozen...I'd be Permagrin on Ice...

[Lightstream]

He's already gone...nobody ordered in time...

I hope he doesn't come back with your tea then...because I'm not fond of it in any flavor.

He likes cold too...even on winter days...I don't get it. If I froze my inside whilst my extremities too were frozen...I'd be Permagrin on Ice...

Reminds me of my crew from a number of years back...

Middle of winter... we'd sit around and eat icecream. That was awesome.

[wu_wei0]

Reminds me of my crew from a number of years back...

Middle of winter... we'd sit around and eat icecream. That was awesome.

Ice cream is best in winter. That's about the only time I crave it. Popsicles in summer (bomb pops) and ice cream once it cools down.

[liza]

I like Dairy Queen chocolate soft serve. MMMMM!!!!

[wu_wei0]

I still have desire for a dip cone on occasion. There's a DQ in town but never have been there.

[Permagrin]

I like Dairy Queen chocolate soft serve. MMMMM!!!!

I used to work at the DQ! Many bazillions of years ago. Before they ever had hard ice-cream...I used to make some mean peanut buster parfaits (with CHOCOLATE ice cream...ymmmm)

[Lightstream]

Yer makin' me hungry... ;)

[liza]

I used to work at the DQ! Many bazillions of years ago. Before they ever had hard ice-cream...I used to make some mean peanut buster parfaits (with CHOCOLATE ice cream...ymmmm)

I did, too. When I first went back to school for my teaching cert, I worked for my friends who owned the DQ. I can make any kind of Blizzard known to man as well as any of the other menu items. It was a good time for me. No stress like I have now.

[Permagrin]

I did, too. When I first went back to school for my teaching cert, I worked for my friends who owned the DQ. I can make any kind of Blizzard known to man as well as any of the other menu items. It was a good time for me. No stress like I have now.

Yes, definitely a NO stress job. I preferred to work grill though. I'm not really a people person and having to be cheerful when cleaning up 90 thousand french fries because a child threw his and all his siblings meals during a tantrum...well, lets just say I preferred to cook!

[liza]

I worked in an old fashioned "walk up" Dairy Queen. We had a steam table and no grill or deep fryer. It was kind of different, but I'm glad there was no dining room to clean up.

[Lightstream]

Speaking of grill, I think I am going to look for some food.....grilled fish sounds good :D

[puddlepirate44]

Yes, definitely a NO stress job. I preferred to work grill though. I'm not really a people person and having to be cheerful when cleaning up 90 thousand french fries because a child threw his and all his siblings meals during a tantrum...well, lets just say I preferred to cook!

When we were dating, I'd go into DQ when Lisa was working, and she would make me these chocolate chip milkshakes to die for. They were awesome. I think she tweaked the recipe a bit and put in more choc. than usual. :D

[Lightstream]

Aww......that's sweet :)


BTW for the educators out here....I saw a good article:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1568480,00.html

I do have something of a passing interest in the subject so occasionally I take notice when something pops up on the radar.

bbl...off to fetch fish!

[Permagrin]

Maureen, I just saw Skip's avatar. It's GREAT! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: he should temporarily change his title to "Bumble"

[Lightstream]

PG... good to see you posting..

I returned with fish half an hour later and thought the thread had died...

[liza]

Maureen, I just saw Skip's avatar. It's GREAT! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: he should temporarily change his title to "Bumble"

I had to go and look when I saw your post. How cute! I'm assuming it's from a movie. I don't have little kids, so I'm not sure what it is.

[Permagrin]

I had to go and look when I saw your post. How cute! I'm assuming it's from a movie. I don't have little kids, so I'm not sure what it is.

It's from Rudolph...the abominable (Humble Bumble) ;) I don't have the movie but I think we watched it every year while my kids were at home!

[Permagrin]

PG... good to see you posting..

I returned with fish half an hour later and thought the thread had died...

I thought it died too, everyone's been gone...and wool's hardly been here for the last couple of days and it's HIS thread...

[liza]

I thought it died too, everyone's been gone...and wool's hardly been here for the last couple of days and it's HIS thread...

Yeah, what's up with that?

[Permagrin]

Yeah, what's up with that?

don't know....maybe he's out shooting something?

[Lightstream]

I see you have even had to resort to posting in Petkal's bird threads ;)

[liza]

Oh, almost forgot. On a more positive note, my male "friend" has PM'd me several times today and sent me a "happy birthday" email. I still don't get how a 47 year old could be so shy. Weird.

[Lightstream]

PG: more of your favorite animals.. and favorite Tamron: http://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2382276&postcount=22

;)

[Permagrin]

I see you have even had to resort to posting in Petkal's bird threads ;)

I've been posting on a lot of different threads today...or at least reading them...it's been very quiet all around the place.

Oh, almost forgot. On a more positive note, my male "friend" has PM'd me several times today and sent me a "happy birthday" email. I still don't get how a 47 year old could be so shy. Weird.

That was nice. I'm glad he answered your pm. And a birthday email is a nice thing too...btw, happy almost birthday ;)

[Permagrin]

PG: more of your favorite animals.. and favorite Tamron: http://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2382276&postcount=22

;)

I'm not really impressed by those shots...though I like the tiger. I see what he's saying re the lens....it didn't produce very good results. And the only tamron I have is the 90 and I do love it.

[Lightstream]

I'm not really impressed by those shots...though I like the tiger. I see what he's saying re the lens....it didn't produce very good results. And the only tamron I have is the 90 and I do love it.

Yeah I thought you would like the animal :)

Wikipedia's wolf shots are not very sharp when you download the high res versions and pixel peep them but they are fantastic anyway. The one with the red background is so perfectly posed you would have thought it *IS* posed.

I just noticed how the Tamron's performance falls off VERY sharply towards the corners at 500/6.3 wide open. I evaluated this lens for my own long zoom, but center performance only, and center performance tallies with what I'm seeing, the tiger's face is sharp.

You have a dedicated macro....it has to be sharp or it becomes a complete laughing stock ;)

[Permagrin]

Wikipedia's wolf shots are not very sharp when you download the high res versions and pixel peep them but they are fantastic anyway. The one with the red background is so perfectly posed you would have thought it *IS* posed.
;)

One of these days I will PP those wolf photos and send you the gallery link. I've just been SO lazy about PPing lately.

[Woolburr]

Winter is definitely ice cream time...I always want ice cream in winter more than I do summer.

[Lightstream]

One of these days I will PP those wolf photos and send you the gallery link. I've just been SO lazy about PPing lately.

Thanks.... :)

Would love to go on expedition to take pics of them even if they are in a sanctuary..

Winter is definitely ice cream time...I always want ice cream in winter more than I do summer.

Y'all are definitely MY kinda people :)

[Woolburr]

I haven't posted much yesterday or today because wu's keyboard gave my keyboard the disease. I had to spring for a new keyboard....took a while for find what I wanted....I have to have Natural keyboards. I've used one for so long that I can't type for crap on a regular straight keyboard. While I was at it...I added a new track marble and since my video card was feeling old...I popped for a new faster version with 4x the memory of the old one...so it has been busy.

And guys...just to set the record straight...this isn't my thread...this is a community thread...I just made the first post.

[liza]

I've just been SO lazy about PPing lately.

You and me both. I've processed literally thousands of images this fall, and I'm getting pretty burned out. I still have about 4 basketball games to process. God, I hate being behind!

[puddlepirate44]

Winter is definitely ice cream time...I always want ice cream in winter more than I do summer.

Everyday is a day for ice cream. I've yet to find a time or a season that could not be improved with a good dose of Ben and Jerry's. :)

[Permagrin]

I haven't posted much yesterday or today because wu's keyboard gave my keyboard the disease. I had to spring for a new keyboard....took a while for find what I wanted....I have to have Natural keyboards. I've used one for so long that I can't type for crap on a regular straight keyboard. While I was at it...I added a new track marble and since my video card was feeling old...I popped for a new faster version with 4x the memory of the old one...so it has been busy.

And guys...just to set the record straight...this isn't my thread...this is a community thread...I just made the first post.

Man I hope that keyboard thing isn't contageous! (How do you type on a laptop then?) How does one know when one's Vcard is feeling old?

You and me both. I've processed literally thousands of images this fall, and I'm getting pretty burned out. I still have about 4 basketball games to process. God, I hate being behind!

I do too...it makes me procrastinate even more...I just realized those wolf shots have been promised since Oct. Lightstream, I'll work on them this week, I promise!

[Permagrin]

Everyday is a day for ice cream. I've yet to find a time or a season that could not be improved with a good dose of Ben and Jerry's. :)

oooh, yes, Ben and Jerry's "everything but the...." that sounds ymmmmmy

[Lightstream]

Oct? You've been counting, not me! ;) but thanks.. I appreciate it..

Video cards are 'old' when they have been around for a number of years.. realistically, if you don't play the latest graphics-intensive computer games, your card is fine.

I am using an older NVidia Quadro with 128MB of memory.. not exactly your blindingly fast gaming card, but for photo editing, it is plenty. And more importantly it has a full set of multimonitor controls and the ability to drive multiple LCDs, which I need for work.

[wu_wei0]

I haven't posted much yesterday or today because wu's keyboard gave my keyboard the disease.

Yeah, blame it on me. You knew my keyboard had problems and you still chose to expose yourself ;)

[Permagrin]

Yeah, blame it on me. You knew my keyboard had problems and you still chose to expose yourself ;)

:lol: :lol: :lol:

TMI!

[Woolburr]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

TMI!

Hmmmmmmmm....South Park fan? Timmy!

[Woolburr]

Yeah, blame it on me. You knew my keyboard had problems and you still chose to expose yourself ;)

I'll have you know the only time I was exposed was during those brief seconds while diving into the hot tub. ;)

[liza]

Oh, that's REALLY TMI!

[Permagrin]

Hmmmmmmmm....South Park fan? Timmy!

...don't know who Timmy is...
I prefer wholesome cartoons like Dangermouse and Scooby Doo.

and after reading your next post re: the "exposure"...again I say TMI! :lol: :lol: :lol:

[puddlepirate44]

I'll have you know the only time I was exposed was during those brief seconds while diving into the hot tub. ;)

Yep. That's a whole lotta info. Lookin' forward to those nightmares tonight. :shock:

[liza]

Timmy is the little boy in the South Park cartoon who is mentally impaired and in a wheelchair. And the episodes with him are in pretty poor taste.

[Permagrin]

Timmy is the little boy in the South Park cartoon who is mentally impaired and in a wheelchair. And the episodes with him are in pretty poor taste.

I don't watch south park or simpsons or family guy...really I don't watch much. Football, news. Discovery channel, HGTV, history...that sort of thing.

[liza]

I only watch television on Wednesday nights when I go to my mother's house. Then it's usually only CSI reruns. I have absolutely no interest in TV these days, nor do I have time to watch it.

[Lightstream]

I'll have you know the only time I was exposed was during those brief seconds while diving into the hot tub. ;)

Oh, that's REALLY TMI!

Yep. That's a whole lotta info. Lookin' forward to those nightmares tonight. :shock:


Now y'all know why I went :shock: when Wool confessed that his tub was clothing-free....

[Woolburr]

Trying to catch the light exactly as seen by eye.
http://www.pbase.com/woolburr/image/71503098.jpg

Was pretty amazed at how close this one came.

[Lightstream]

Wool....very nice, love the way you managed it without blowing out any of the highlights! The sky is very dramatic, I love skies like that.

[wu_wei0]

I'll have you know the only time I was exposed was during those brief seconds while diving into the hot tub. ;)

You know you enjoyed it or you wouldn't have kept doing it and that keyboard really was a small price to pay. :) How do you think mine got broken in the first place?

[theflyingkiwi]

Oh, almost forgot. On a more positive note, my male "friend" has PM'd me several times today and sent me a "happy birthday" email. I still don't get how a 47 year old could be so shy. Weird.

you know it's a funny thing about the internet. people who are normally shy can find the internet alot easer to handle.

Myself personally I find it's harder to deal with people face to face than it does either over the phone or over the internet.

You know this guy may be shy, and more than likey on the cards that's the case. He could find that he finds it hard to deal with the opposite sex face to face, or is unsure on how to express what he needs to. It could even be the case that he might find it hard to believe that you may be interested in him. (which could cause alot of issues in itself) I take it you have seen the movie, The 40year old Virgin? there are some people out there like that. hard to believe but true.

The fact that he has sent you a e-mail birthday card means that he likes you enough to be in contact.

as I am sure you are aware you need to know how long you can pull on the piece of string before you can let go.

perhaps a phone call might be a good way to start it off?

either that or he is sharping his knives :evil: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

BTW Happy Birthday.
BTWA if I have over stepped the mark just let me know.

[T.D.]

Greetings Everyone,

Don't mean to butt in, but I was wondering if anyone else is having trouble with POTN tonight. I keep losing it. I'm on a new laptop on a wireless connection in a Hotel room, so I'm just trying to figure out if it's POTN or the network.

Thanks!

[Permagrin]

Trying to catch the light exactly as seen by eye.

Was pretty amazed at how close this one came.

Was this photo with the Ds? The sky is great and the colors/saturation is perfect.

[Permagrin]

Greetings Everyone,

Don't mean to butt in, but I was wondering if anyone else is having trouble with POTN tonight. I keep losing it. I'm on a new laptop on a wireless connection in a Hotel room, so I'm just trying to figure out if it's POTN or the network.

Thanks!

It's been going down, off and on for me too. Especially earlier. I haven't had a problem for the last 45 min. or so.

[T.D.]

It's been going down, off and on for me too. Especially earlier. I haven't had a problem for the last 45 min. or so.

Thanks. I'm over in Bend for work and am trying out the hotel wireless. It's kind of slow, but it works and I can finally do something other than just mindlessly watch TV.

Any ideas on where I can get some good shots if I get some time?

[Permagrin]

Thanks. I'm over in Bend for work and am trying out the hotel wireless. It's kind of slow, but it works and I can finally do something other than just mindlessly watch TV.

Any ideas on where I can get some good shots if I get some time?

Well, there's some nice desert canyon (if you like to shoot desert) shots in the crooked river area. It's been ages since I've been over there but last time I was in crooked river I was very sorry I didn't have my camera. I think it's about 15-20 min from Bend proper. Not sure though...

[liza]

No, he isn't sharpening his knives, Mark. He's a local fellow. I've been exchanging PM's with him all day, so I'm hoping he'll overcome this infernal shyness. It's hard for me to understand, because I'm pretty gregarious by nature. It's frustrating, too, because I was pretty sure he had seen me and the game and figured he just didn't like what he saw. I'm kind of new to today's dating and mating rituals, too. It's been 20 years since I had to do anything like this. And I don't call men. Mother always told me only loose women do that, so I don't.

And, no, I haven't seen that movie. Haven't been to a movie for a year.

[Lightstream]

POTN is a little slow. I'm on a hardwired broadband connection, same as I've always been, and it's occasionally a bit slow but it's not a big issue. Do not adjust your wireless ;) (well actually do adjust it if it is giving trouble..)

[Permagrin]

Thanks. I'm over in Bend for work and am trying out the hotel wireless. It's kind of slow, but it works and I can finally do something other than just mindlessly watch TV.

Any ideas on where I can get some good shots if I get some time?

Turnerzdad, check out this link...it's photos of where I was talking about
http://www.williamjosephgallery.com/images/Image%20Portfolios/Color%20North%20America%20Smith%20Rock%20Oregon%20 1.htm

[Woolburr]

Greetings Everyone,

Don't mean to butt in, but I was wondering if anyone else is having trouble with POTN tonight. I keep losing it. I'm on a new laptop on a wireless connection in a Hotel room, so I'm just trying to figure out if it's POTN or the network.

Thanks!

POTN keeps dumping me...so that would be my guess.

[theflyingkiwi]

No, he isn't sharpening his knives, Mark. He's a local fellow. I've been exchanging PM's with him all day, so I'm hoping he'll overcome this infernal shyness. It's hard for me to understand, because I'm pretty gregarious by nature. It's frustrating, too, because I was pretty sure he had seen me and the game and figured he just didn't like what he saw. I'm kind of new to today's dating and mating rituals, too. It's been 20 years since I had to do anything like this. And I don't call men. Mother always told me only loose women do that, so I don't.

And, no, I haven't seen that movie. Haven't been to a movie for a year.

that's alright then. I would hate to hear that he is.

The movie itself is ok and it's got some funny moments in it. I don't think it's a movie tho you should rent out for a date.

[T.D.]

Turnerzdad, check out this link...it's photos of where I was talking about
http://www.williamjosephgallery.com/images/Image%20Portfolios/Color%20North%20America%20Smith%20Rock%20Oregon%20 1.htm

Very cool! I'm going to have to try and find that place if I get some time. Thanks for the tip.By the way, there's a DQ commercial on right now. All this DQ talk makes me want some ice cream!

[Woolburr]

Was this photo with the Ds? The sky is great and the colors/saturation is perfect.

With the Ds....just when I start to have doubts about it....it spits out one like this. I can not believe how exactly it replicated the scene...

[Permagrin]

With the Ds....just when I start to have doubts about it....it spits out one like this. I can not believe how exactly it replicated the scene...

There is just something about those details...so different on a FF in comparison to a crop cam. I love it. Hope that dispells your doubts all together!

[Woolburr]

FF is certainly nice for shots like that. And totally insane with either the 16-35 or 17-40 glued on.

[Lightstream]

FF is certainly nice for shots like that. And totally insane with either the 16-35 or 17-40 glued on.

Now yer talkin' my language ;)

5D + 17-40 = mmmmmm....

[Permagrin]

FF is certainly nice for shots like that. And totally insane with either the 16-35 or 17-40 glued on.

Yes, I NEVER appreciated my 17-40's abilities until I got the 5D. FF is amazing, though I see it continually touted as useless around here...but I LOVE it.

[Claire]

I'm awake.

Happy Birthday Liza!

Ok, someone fill me in on things. Did Mr Shy PM Liza? Did Perma decide to share puddle?

[Lightstream]

Yes, I NEVER appreciated my 17-40's abilities until I got the 5D. FF is amazing, though I see it continually touted as useless around here...but I LOVE it.


Couple of reasons why I love FF...

Can't get a 28mm equivalent prime for APS-C.
Can't get a 24mm equivalent zoom starting at 24mm for APS-C. Even Tokina's new 16-50 is a 26-80 equivalent.

17-40 wide open tends to be sharper than 10-22 wide open. I had some minor issues including one edge being sharper than the other at f/5.6. Checked by Canon and came back to me with a clean bill of health but still behaved the same way.

24-105 slaps 17-85 silly, much as I love the 17-85.

Viewfinder, end of story. I can actually *SEE* what I am composing, instead of spraying and praying with the 10-22. I'd check whether the edges were where I wanted them, click and sort it out later on computer because the VF was so small. This is a particular problem with UW lenses which shrink details. With tele lenses it is not so much of an issue.

Diffraction softening. I can stop down to f/16 vs f/11.

And even for the fact that crop cameras extend the reach of tele's, I prefer to frame loose and crop in software.

Dynamic range, nuff said.

PHENOMENAL ISO performance, nuff said.

Could go on, but I think I'm over a couple of reasons. If sports is not your MAIN priority, FF rules.

[Permagrin]

I'm awake.

Happy Birthday Liza!

Ok, someone fill me in on things. Did Mr Shy PM Liza? Did Perma decide to share puddle?

No such luck Claire dear...I'll be actively on the look out for you though...in case I see anyone that meets your requirements ;)

[Lightstream]

I'm awake.

Happy Birthday Liza!

Ok, someone fill me in on things. Did Mr Shy PM Liza? Did Perma decide to share puddle?

No to all the above. We've been discussing.....I can't remember what we've been discussing. ;)

[liza]

I'm awake.

Happy Birthday Liza!

Ok, someone fill me in on things. Did Mr Shy PM Liza? Did Perma decide to share puddle?

Thanks, Claire! In nine minutes, it will officially be my birthday.

And Mr. Shy PM'd me several times today and sent birthday wishes to me as well.

[Lightstream]

Brilliant! the best duck macro I've EVER SEEN! Check out the detail on those cheeks...wild, man!

You *REALLY* crack me up..... duck cheeks.. http://pix.lightrefineries.org/img/crackup.gif

[Permagrin]

You *REALLY* crack me up..... duck cheeks.. http://pix.lightrefineries.org/img/crackup.gif

I couldn't help it! I had to say something. It was imperative.

[Belmondo]

Thanks, Claire! In nine minutes, it will officially be my birthday.

And Mr. Shy PM'd me several times today and sent birthday wishes to me as well.

Well, it looks like I picked an auspicious time to look in on the Tupperware Party. Happy Birthday!! (in five minutes). You really don't look a second older.

[Claire]

I'm soo sleepy...Zzzzz

Company Xmas dinner tonight

[Permagrin]

Well, it looks like I picked an auspicious time to look in on the Tupperware Party. Happy Birthday!! (in five minutes). You really don't look a second older.

you might not know it but you were here earlier...Maureen posted your likeness ;)


Originally Posted by Permagrin
Maureen, you should name that plaid britches one Belmondo...minus the red nose anyway, it kind of reminds me of him

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[Woolburr]

Now it is official....Happy Birthday Liza.

[Lightstream]

Happy birthday Liza!!

[Permagrin]

happy birthday LIZA

[Woolburr]

Gee Tom...you might want to get that tree looked at...it is starting to look a little infected.;)

[Permagrin]

Gee Tom...you might want to get that tree looked at...it is starting to look a little infected.;)

You know...he has image editing okay...I almost replaced it with a twig tree and just posted the comment "forest fire"...:lol: :lol:

[Woolburr]

There ya go....I'm sure that would go over very big.

[Permagrin]

There ya go....I'm sure that would go over very big.

:lol: :lol: :lol: Yeah, well since he's got the POWER to ban, I decided against it. :lol:

[Lightstream]

http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-Canon-EF-200mm-1-8-F1-8-L-USM-Lens-11459-MINT_W0QQitemZ180058341117QQihZ008QQcategoryZ4687Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Wow, pretty.

I would love to try this one out...

[Belmondo]

:lol: :lol: :lol: Yeah, well since he's got the POWER to ban, I decided against it. :lol:

Good decision. I am mean, petty, and vindictive, and can hold a grudge forever. I suspect those are qualities that led me to become a moderator in the first place.

I have no idea what photo of me Maureen would have posted. I only hope it was my left side. (There's a mole on the right side of my nose....err, there's an ornament on the right side of my tree.)

[Woolburr]

If that lens is really in that good condition...I should just jump on it. That looks like it just came out of the factory.

[wu_wei0]

HBD Liza!

[Permagrin]

Good decision. I am mean, petty, and vindictive, and can hold a grudge forever. I suspect those are qualities that led me to become a moderator in the first place.

I have no idea what photo of me Maureen would have posted. I only hope it was my left side. (There's a mole on the right side of my nose....err, there's an ornament on the right side of my tree.)

it was one of her Santas... :)

and no worries Chief...I know when to error on the side of discretion

[Lightstream]

If that lens is really in that good condition...I should just jump on it. That looks like it just came out of the factory.


GO WOOL!!!!!!! ONE FOR THE RED-RINGED TUPPERWARE TEAM!!!!

[Belmondo]

If that lens is really in that good condition...I should just jump on it. That looks like it just came out of the factory. I just wish Canon would stop the bleeding and reintroduce an updated version of that lens. They now can see that people would spend close to $5K without hesitation.

The problem with buying these lenses used is that there will be a time, if we're not already there, when Canon will no long service them. Unless there is someone willing and able to repair them, they will be so much junk in relatively short order.

[Permagrin]

If that lens is really in that good condition...I should just jump on it. That looks like it just came out of the factory.

That is a hot lens. Have you seen busterboy's shots with it? WOW!

[Permagrin]

I just wish Canon would stop the bleeding and reintroduce an updated version of that lens. They now can see that people would spend close to $5K without hesitation.

The problem with buying these lenses used is that there will be a time, if we're not already there, when Canon will no long service them. Unless there is someone willing and able to repair them, they will be so much junk in relatively short order.

I remember busterboy saying that canon wouldn't service it anymore. That it had to be attended to by a private (whoever does that sort of thing)

[wu_wei0]

BTW- my keyboard wasn't sick at all. Just up and died- old and worn out. I imagine Wool's died of a broken heart once it heard the news. YOu read about that stuff all the time.

[Lightstream]

I have this idea.. I think it's $#()ing nuts.....

ME.

Buy 200/1.8.

Shoot it for a couple of months then sell it onwards....



*feels shaking*

mmmmmmmmmf? time to wake up already?

[Permagrin]

BTW- my keyboard wasn't sick at all. Just up and died- old and worn out. I imagine Wool's died of a broken heart once it heard the news. YOu read about that stuff all the time.

Now, that wasn't Wool's story ;) ...you two are going to have to work that whole corroboration thing out if you are going to have the same friends!

[theflyingkiwi]

I have this idea.. I think it's $#()ing nuts.....

ME.

Buy 200/1.8.

Shoot it for a couple of months then sell it onwards....



*feels shaking*

mmmmmmmmmf? time to wake up already?

hhhm that that would a nice lens indeed. however I can see a flaw in your programming. you might shoot with it for a few months and then find out that you like it to much to sell it.

[theflyingkiwi]

I just wish Canon would stop the bleeding and reintroduce an updated version of that lens. They now can see that people would spend close to $5K without hesitation.

The problem with buying these lenses used is that there will be a time, if we're not already there, when Canon will no long service them. Unless there is someone willing and able to repair them, they will be so much junk in relatively short order.

There is only ones lens that I really wish that canon would upgrade to, and that's is the 100-400.

but then I am dreaming to that ever happening. when has a major company ever listened to it's customers?

[Lightstream]

I just wish Canon would stop the bleeding and reintroduce an updated version of that lens. They now can see that people would spend close to $5K without hesitation.

The problem with buying these lenses used is that there will be a time, if we're not already there, when Canon will no long service them. Unless there is someone willing and able to repair them, they will be so much junk in relatively short order.


$5K is on par with their very, very finest.. the thought of that becoming useless if damaged is quite frightening. Maybe that is why the 300/2.8 is very much preferred.

An updated version would be absolutely awesome. Slap IS on it and Canon would have the most fearsome light sucker on the market..

[Woolburr]

I just wish Canon would stop the bleeding and reintroduce an updated version of that lens. They now can see that people would spend close to $5K without hesitation.

The problem with buying these lenses used is that there will be a time, if we're not already there, when Canon will no long service them. Unless there is someone willing and able to repair them, they will be so much junk in relatively short order.

That is the thing....KEH says they have a way to service them for a while...and supposedly have a small cache of parts for them...but customers that buy the lens from them have priority. I can't believe that Canon isn't seeing the need to put some incarnation of this back into production. The trade in the used version is phenomenal and I really think the demand is there for either a retooled version of the original or even an IS model.

I would just love to be able to use one for one of the night NASCAR events....just to see...not to mention football.

[Lightstream]

I would love to shoot one at all.....not own though... However I have no subjects that lend themselves to this lens anyway.

[liza]

Well, it looks like I picked an auspicious time to look in on the Tupperware Party. Happy Birthday!! (in five minutes). You really don't look a second older.

Now it is official....Happy Birthday Liza.

Happy birthday Liza!!

Goodness, I stepped away from the computer long enough to do some laundry and look what was waiting when I got back! Thank you all. :D
happy birthday LIZA

HBD Liza!

[Belmondo]

There is only ones lens that I really wish that canon would upgrade to, and that's is the 100-400.

but then I am dreaming to that ever happening. when has a major company ever listened to it's customers?

Actually, I'd love to see an updated 400 f/5.6L, perhaps with IS.

[theflyingkiwi]

ok I am going to play the dumb photographer here. (which isn't hard) I am just checking out the photos of it. that case looks really cool :) I think it's worth getting just for that (j/k)

What's the point in changing the min focus?
why different focus speeds? (last pic) and what's that button above it?
the 2nd to last picture has what looks like a filter of sometype, what's that?

[liza]

That is the thing....KEH says they have a way to service them for a while...and supposedly have a small cache of parts for them...but customers that buy the lens from them have priority. I can't believe that Canon isn't seeing the need to put some incarnation of this back into production. The trade in the used version is phenomenal and I really think the demand is there for either a retooled version of the original or even an IS model.

I would just love to be able to use one for one of the night NASCAR events....just to see...not to mention football.

I wouldn't think you'd need IS with it, if it's anything like the f/2.8L. I'd love to shoot night football with the darn thing.

[theflyingkiwi]

Actually, I'd love to see an updated 400 f/5.6L, perhaps with IS.

I would just love a 400 F5.6 in the first place :)

[Lightstream]

ok I am going to play the dumb photographer here. (which isn't hard) I am just checking out the photos of it. that case looks really cool :) I think it's worth getting just for that (j/k)

What's the point in changing the min focus?
why different focus speeds? (last pic) and what's that button above it?
the 2nd to last picture has what looks like a filter of sometype, what's that?


Oh, that's the focus limiter. Let's say you are tracking a subject with AI Servo and something gets between you and your subject. AF misses, which causes the lens to search the entire focus range (at a substantial time penalty while your subject is running around and you can't shoot). If you know your subject will be within one of those 3 ranges, you set the switch to limit the lens, so the lens will only search that range and reduce the time needed to recover from an AF miss.

Different focus speeds.. our lenses nowadays have Full Time Manual (FTM), but this is mechanical. We turn the ring, and the lens elements move by finger power. The 200/1.8 has an electrical FTM drive (fly-by-wire)... you turn the ring, and the USM moves the elements. So you can vary the speed.. low speed would involve more turning to move the elements. Enhances focusing accuracy.

Last one.. imagine a circular polarizer on that lens - you'd have a 150mm polarizer or something and that would make you go BROKE real fast ;)

With the drop-in filter, you can use a much smaller filter since it only has to cover the rear of the lens, and not in the front. ie. you put the polarizer at the back, instead of the front of the lens. Naturally, if you want 'no filter' you put a UV or clear glass in as a 'blank'.

[Lightstream]

I would just love a 400 F5.6 in the first place :)


Your Sigma 100-300/4 is quite an impressive lens though....smack a teleconverter on and you have a 140-420/5.6!

[Permagrin]

So lightstream...are you going to buy that classic lens?

[Woolburr]

I wouldn't think you'd need IS with it, if it's anything like the f/2.8L. I'd love to shoot night football with the darn thing.

The IS would be for those moments you are using it with a 2x TC...just when you want that little extra reach.

[Lightstream]

So lightstream...are you going to buy that classic lens?

*suddenly goes weak at the knees* :confused:

Wait, you referring to the 28-104 or the 200/1.8?

[Permagrin]

...or are you Wool?
It looks pretty fine!

[Lightstream]

The IS would be for those moments you are using it with a 2x TC...just when you want that little extra reach.

Holy cow..... 400 f/3.5!!

[Permagrin]

*suddenly goes weak at the knees* :confused:

Wait, you referring to the 28-104 or the 200/1.8?

the 200....(sorry I didn't get back to re: the other)...

[Lightstream]

the 200....(sorry I didn't get back to re: the other)...

No worries... just making a comment.. luckily I did not give in to temptation on the 28-105. It is one of those things I IMAGINE I have a use for, when I really do not.

...or are you Wool?
It looks pretty fine!

Lead WOOL into temptation, not me!! I'm just an innocent kid! ;)

I don't even have subjects that'd warrant such an awesome lens..

I suppose I could do it if I threw ALL financial responsibility to the wind.... but no.. I'll just rent it off Wool.

[Permagrin]

I'm LEADING NO ONE! You posted the link, youn 'un. I was merely inquiring. ;)

[Woolburr]

If the seller was in the US...I might be even more tempted than I am...Every image from that lens is amazing...but alas...I just don't know that I can justify that big of a Christmas present to myself. If I did that...somebody on my gift list might have to do without....couldn't have that happening.

[Lightstream]

I'm LEADING NO ONE! You posted the link, youn 'un. I was merely inquiring. ;)

Oh yeah, I forgot http://pix.lightrefineries.org/img/crackup.gif

yaknow I think I will just buy the 200/2.8 and keep quiet ;) then again I already have a 200/2.8, just that it's one end of a zoom.

[Permagrin]

If the seller was in the US...I might be even more tempted than I am...Every image from that lens is amazing...but alas...I just don't know that I can justify that big of a Christmas present to myself. If I did that...somebody on my gift list might have to do without....couldn't have that happening.

I was surprised at their feedback...I rarely buy outside the US either. But they obviously have several repeat buyers...considering the high end lenses they are listing I was figuring they'd be false...

Oh yeah, I forgot http://pix.lightrefineries.org/img/crackup.gif

yaknow I think I will just buy the 200/2.8 and keep quiet ;) then again I already have a 200/2.8, just that it's one end of a zoom.

yeah, one never "needs" a lens like that...one just "WANTS ONE REALLY REALLY BADLY" :lol:

[Woolburr]

BTW- my keyboard wasn't sick at all. Just up and died- old and worn out. I imagine Wool's died of a broken heart once it heard the news. YOu read about that stuff all the time.

I think that old Shaky Pierre dood wrote a tale about them. Romaine and Julienne or something like that...the dood was a real cut-up.

[Permagrin]

Oh and Wool, if it was either Wu or myself that would have to do without that whole "Christmas present thing", consider yourself seriously discouraged from buying it! ;)

[Woolburr]

Oh and Wool, if it was either Wu or myself that would have to do without that whole "Christmas present thing", consider yourself seriously discouraged from buying it! ;)

I thought as much.

[Maureen Souza]

Happy Birthday, Liza!!http://photo.klein-jensen.dk/smilies/0226.gif

[theflyingkiwi]

Oh, that's the focus limiter........you put a UV or clear glass in as a 'blank'.

Your Sigma 100-300/4 is quite an impressive lens though....smack a teleconverter on and you have a 140-420/5.6!

Thanks for that, I have learnt something new today.

the sigma is nice, but I think my camera has had some problems since I had it so I haven't really gotten some nice shots out of it yet. I got the 1.4x which I haven't used that much either.

I still don't have my camera back :( but it should be this week with any luck. The first place I am going to go is the zoo. give that sigma a real work out :) + I haven't shot any ducks with it yet.