Red-Ringed Tupperware Party with (ineffective) Tin Foil Hats

[Permagrin]

I think that old Shaky Pierre dood wrote a tale about them. Romaine and Julienne or something like that...the dood was a real cut-up.

BTW that one turned out so badly. Couldn't you have chosen "As you like it"

[Lightstream]

I was surprised at their feedback...I rarely buy outside the US either. But they obviously have several repeat buyers...considering the high end lenses they are listing I was figuring they'd be false...


oi! Not everybody from outside the US is a scammer ;)

Another community I talk to has/had some serious trust issues.. a lot of 'CONUS only' sales - I have a lot of issues with that especially as a longstanding member of their community with proven track record (including a long history of sales - 99.5% intl'). The gringoism got so bad it even alienated friends of the US such as myself. Glad to see not all Americans are like them though.. thankfully they remain in the minority.


yeah, one never "needs" a lens like that...one just "WANTS ONE REALLY REALLY BADLY" :lol:


YES!!!!! LENS LUST!!!! :D

[liza]

Oh yeah, I forgot http://pix.lightrefineries.org/img/crackup.gif

yaknow I think I will just buy the 200/2.8 and keep quiet ;) then again I already have a 200/2.8, just that it's one end of a zoom.

The 200/2.8 is probably a bit sharper than the zoom, though. I have one, and the images from it bring tears to my eyes. It has the best image quality of any lens I own.


Happy Birthday, Liza!!http://photo.klein-jensen.dk/smilies/0226.gif


Thanks, Maureen!

[Lightstream]

Thanks for that, I have learnt something new today.

the sigma is nice, but I think my camera has had some problems since I had it so I haven't really gotten some nice shots out of it yet. I got the 1.4x which I haven't used that much either.

I still don't have my camera back :( but it should be this week with any luck. The first place I am going to go is the zoo. give that sigma a real work out :) + I haven't shot any ducks with it yet.

You're welcome.. it's not a dumb question.. it's more like I spend too much time studying what makes these things work ;)

And maybe the duck part explains why the lens isn't performing ;)

The sacred Duck Shoot must be done before a lens can deliver at its max!! :D

Anyway hope you get it back and that the focus works properly this time. The Sigma can be very nice and sharp.

The 200/2.8 is probably a bit sharper than the zoom, though. I have one, and the images from it bring tears to my eyes. It has the best image quality of any lens I own.



You're tempting me :D The Sigma is weak at the 200/2.8 end too. Needs a stop to perform better. Once I back off beyond 170mm, it becomes sharp throughout. VERY sharp at 135/2.8.

Also, a question for you since you're a prime shooter - what happens when the subject gets too close to you? Let the shot go? This is what I use the zoom for, being able to zoom backwards. I usually start long and then zoom out as needed.

[Woolburr]

oi! Not everybody from outside the US is a scammer ;)

Another community I talk to has/had some serious trust issues.. a lot of 'CONUS only' sales - I have a lot of issues with that especially as a longstanding member of their community with proven track record (including a long history of sales - 99.5% intl'). The gringoism got so bad it even alienated friends of the US such as myself. Glad to see not all Americans are like them though.. thankfully they remain in the minority.


I've actually made a couple of purchases from Hong Kong....in cases where I can verify the seller is legit I don't mind doing an international deal. There are however some protections afforded to a US only transaction that don't apply to international deals.

[Permagrin]

oi! Not everybody from outside the US is a scammer ;)

Another community I talk to has/had some serious trust issues.. a lot of 'CONUS only' sales - I have a lot of issues with that especially as a longstanding member of their community with proven track record (including a long history of sales - 99.5% intl'). The gringoism got so bad it even alienated friends of the US such as myself. Glad to see not all Americans are like them though.. thankfully they remain in the minority.




YES!!!!! LENS LUST!!!! :D

You know, I don't trust much better CONUS however, dealing with the issues that result from a poor seller seem more easily resolved CONUS. Definitely no offense intended. What I purchase abroad is antique books. Somehow Europe and even AU have more of what I want than other places. Specifically Scotland is a big supplier for me...but then again those are nowhere the cost of the lenses I buy.

[Woolburr]

BTW that one turned out so badly. Couldn't you have chosen "As you like it"

Some people say that one was "tragic". Personally...I find his works to be totally boring and banal. Can't say I would ever put him on the list of greatest authors.

[Woolburr]

You know, I don't trust much better CONUS however, dealing with the issues that result from a poor seller seem more easily resolved CONUS. Definitely no offense intended. What I purchase abroad is antique books. Somehow Europe and even AU have more of what I want than other places. Specifically Scotland is a big supplier for me...but then again those are nowhere the cost of the lenses I buy.

I now own the complete hardcover works of my favorite author compliments of a seller in the UK...

[Lightstream]

I've actually made a couple of purchases from Hong Kong....in cases where I can verify the seller is legit I don't mind doing an international deal. There are however some protections afforded to a US only transaction that don't apply to international deals.

You know, I don't trust much better CONUS however, dealing with the issues that result from a poor seller seem more easily resolved CONUS. Definitely no offense intended. What I purchase abroad is antique books. Somehow Europe and even AU have more of what I want than other places. Specifically Scotland is a big supplier for me...but then again those are nowhere the cost of the lenses I buy.

No worries.. I would be concerned if I was throwing $5K around too!

Just pointing out some of the other issues another community has and I should say I am really glad NOT to have them here on POTN. http://pix.lightrefineries.org/img/grouphug.gif

If I buy intl' on ebay, it tends to be for only small purchases. Most expensive was an ST-E2 (HK), not exactly something you'd cry over if anything went horribly wrong. Oh, I shipped my Sigma in from the US (Ebay as well), got lucky. VERY lucky. Usually I stick to B&H though... or local camera shop even if they are say $50 more expensive. My local camera dealer has bailed me out over a very marginal lens before.. so I think it is worth that extra protection.

[Permagrin]

Some people say that one was "tragic". Personally...I find his works to be totally boring and banal. Can't say I would ever put him on the list of greatest authors.

Wow. I really love Shakespeare. Especially his comedies. Rosalind is one of my favorite characters too...she's so spunky! I didn't think it was tragic at all. I'm not fond of the sonnets at all (afraid I hate poetry most sincerely) but I absolutely enjoy most of the plays.

[Permagrin]

I now own the complete hardcover works of my favorite author compliments of a seller in the UK...

who is your favorite author?

[liza]

You're tempting me :D The Sigma is weak at the 200/2.8 end too. Needs a stop to perform better. Once I back off beyond 170mm, it becomes sharp throughout. VERY sharp at 135/2.8.

Also, a question for you since you're a prime shooter - what happens when the subject gets too close to you? Let the shot go? This is what I use the zoom for, being able to zoom backwards. I usually start long and then zoom out as needed.

If you think the Sigma is sharp, the 200L will make you cry. God, I love that lens.

What do I do when the subject gets too close? Why, I switch very quickly to the other camera on which I have either a 100 or 85mm lense mounted. ;)

[Lightstream]

If you think the Sigma is sharp, the 200L will make you cry. God, I love that lens.

What do I do when the subject gets too close? Why, I switch very quickly to the other camera on which I have either a 100 or 85mm lense mounted. ;)

DOHHHHHHH....... :confused:

I cannot believe I didn't think of that.. excuse me for being dumb... :oops: obviously one switches focal length even with a prime.. it's just that you don't switch by turning rings, you switch by changing cameras....

[liza]

who is your favorite author?

I'm not a Shakespeare fan, either. Booorrrinnng! I like Southern authors, like William Faulkner, Katherine Ann Porter, or Reynolds Price. Guess I'm just a Philistine at heart. :)

[liza]

DOHHHHHHH....... :confused:

I cannot believe I didn't think of that.. excuse me for being dumb... :oops: obviously one switches focal length even with a prime.. it's just that you don't switch by turning rings, you switch by changing cameras....

You're not dumb. You just don't shoot primes all the time, like I do. Sometimes I'll have a prime mounted on one camera and a zoom on the other. I have the Sigma 70-200 at work now, so I've been using that heavy SOB. It has great IQ, though.

[theflyingkiwi]

You're not dumb. You just don't shoot primes all the time, like I do. Sometimes I'll have a prime mounted on one camera and a zoom on the other. I have the Sigma 70-200 at work now, so I've been using that heavy SOB. It has great IQ, though.

I wish you could knock some sense in to weka2000. he has turned in to a sigma snob :rolleyes:

[Permagrin]

I'm not a Shakespeare fan, either. Booorrrinnng! I like Southern authors, like William Faulkner, Katherine Ann Porter, or Reynolds Price. Guess I'm just a Philistine at heart. :)

well I just looked them up to see if I'd read anything by any of them and I haven't :(
Actually I've never even heard of Reynolds Price. And you're not a philistine. To each his/her own, right?

[Lightstream]

You're not dumb. You just don't shoot primes all the time, like I do. Sometimes I'll have a prime mounted on one camera and a zoom on the other. I have the Sigma 70-200 at work now, so I've been using that heavy SOB. It has great IQ, though.

Thanks ;) yeah, I would probably do the same, prime on one, zoom on the other. I tend to think in terms of carrying only one camera at a time though, but really I should start thinking of two, especially since I now have the capability to do that.

The Sigma has nice colors though, and that was noticed even by my audience whose idea of a high performance camera is a P&S ;) no offence to them but it does say something about the colors being obvious enough that even those who do not yet have the 'eye' will catch it.. and that's what matters.

[Woolburr]

who is your favorite author?

My favorite American author is a feller by the name of Samuel Langhorne Clemens. I also enjoy the works of Faulkner, Thoreau and Lee. My favorite author from beyond our fair shores is a chap that goes by Alistair MacLean...nee Ian Stuart

[liza]

I wish you could knock some sense in to weka2000. he has turned in to a sigma snob :rolleyes:

For or against? I'll have to email Tony about that.

Thanks ;) yeah, I would probably do the same, prime on one, zoom on the other. I tend to think in terms of carrying only one camera at a time though, but really I should start thinking of two, especially since I now have the capability to do that.

The Sigma has nice colors though, and that was noticed even by my audience whose idea of a high performance camera is a P&S ;) no offence to them but it does say something about the colors being obvious enough that even those who do not yet have the 'eye' will catch it.. and that's what matters.

At our playoff game, I actually had the audacity to carry three. Didn't want to miss anything. The videographers from the news gave me some good natured crap about it, though.

The Sigma lens does have nice colors. It's pretty close to the L lenses of the same focal length. And most people wouldn't see the difference. The Sigma zoom I covet is the 120-300. Now that's a lens. :)

[Permagrin]

My favorite American author is a feller by the name of Samuel Langhorne Clemens. I also enjoy the works of Faulkner, Thoreau and Lee. My favorite author from beyond our fair shores is a chap that goes by Alistair MacLean...nee Ian Stuart

Well if it's young Sam's books that you have in hardback, I'm am suddenly SO envious! Hubby enjoys (and I think has all of) your Ian Stuart books though too...though don't tell him that Alstair MacLean was a pseudonym, our clan and the stuarts have been warring since the beginning of time!

[liza]

My favorite American author is a feller by the name of Samuel Langhorne Clemens. I also enjoy the works of Faulkner, Thoreau and Lee. My favorite author from beyond our fair shores is a chap that goes by Alistair MacLean...nee Ian Stuart

Ah, I forgot about Clemens! And by "Lee," I'm assuming you mean Harper Lee who wrote one of my favorite novels, "To Kill a Mockingbird."

[theflyingkiwi]

For or against? I'll have to email Tony about that.



At our playoff game, I actually had the audacity to carry three. Didn't want to miss anything. The videographers from the news gave me some good natured crap about it, though.

The Sigma lens does have nice colors. It's pretty close to the L lenses of the same focal length. And most people wouldn't see the difference. The Sigma zoom I covet is the 120-300. Now that's a lens. :)

against.

Your right about the 120-300, that's a very nice piece of glass. I think sigma is getting alot of people buying that lens. it's interesting to see tho in the canon line up you don't have something of the same range at the same focal length

However one lens I would love to have a go with is the sigma 300-800 F5.6 :)

[liza]

It's off to bed with me. I've literally been online all day. Talk to all of you later.

[Permagrin]

Ah, I forgot about Clemens! And by "Lee," I'm assuming you mean Harper Lee who wrote one of my favorite novels, "To Kill a Mockingbird."

While it was good, I came out of it with the same feeling I got when I read The Great Gatsby....kind of a love/hate thing.

[Woolburr]

Ah, I forgot about Clemens! And by "Lee," I'm assuming you mean Harper Lee who wrote one of my favorite novels, "To Kill a Mockingbird."

Robert E. wasn't much of a writer. Harper it is.;)

[Lightstream]

At our playoff game, I actually had the audacity to carry three. Didn't want to miss anything. The videographers from the news gave me some good natured crap about it, though.

The Sigma lens does have nice colors. It's pretty close to the L lenses of the same focal length. And most people wouldn't see the difference. The Sigma zoom I covet is the 120-300. Now that's a lens. :)


http://pix.lightrefineries.org/img/bow.gifhttp://pix.lightrefineries.org/img/bow.gif

If I was on a mission serious enough to warrant that, I probably would too.. so far it hasn't happened. Still a hobbyist shooter. Though hobbyist with some nice prints to show for it. :)


Hope you get your 120-300 Sigma soon!

[Permagrin]

Robert E. wasn't much of a writer. Harper it is.;)

...and yet he's very interesting to read about. I thought he was a brilliant strategist.

[Woolburr]

...and yet he's very interesting to read about. I thought he was a brilliant strategist.

Almost as sharp as a fellow by the name of Grant.:)

[Lightstream]

Whaddya folks think of this:

http://pix.lightrefineries.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=1686&g2_serialNumber=1

I just cooked myself a new print and I'm slightly annoyed that I didn't align the paper guide as exactly as I should have.. it's almost straight but not QUITE straight on the paper. Oh well......

24-105 kicking rear again.. 1/8, f/4, ISO 800, sharp even on A4 print. You need to pixel peep it to see that it's not as sharp as it MIGHT have been on a tripod.. but I was not carrying a pod that day.

[Permagrin]

Almost as sharp as a fellow by the name of Grant.:)

True...husband is also a civil war buff. Actually he's interested in most history. I got fascinated by Lee though...sometimes thought he was insane...sometimes brilliant. That must have been a horribly difficult war, since those generals were fighting side by side in other wars/battles. We have a civil war diary of my husband's great great grandfather. He was in Andersonville prison during the civil war. The eyewitness accounts of an actual relative are both horrifying and filled with amazement....that anyone survived is incredible...(I won't say unscathed...just survived.)

[Woolburr]

Nice looking skyline....guess that was pre-fire?

[Permagrin]

Whaddya folks think of this:

I just cooked myself a new print and I'm slightly annoyed that I didn't align the paper guide as exactly as I should have.. it's almost straight but not QUITE straight on the paper. Oh well......

24-105 kicking rear again.. 1/8, f/4, ISO 800, sharp even on A4 print. You need to pixel peep it to see that it's not as sharp as it MIGHT have been on a tripod.. but I was not carrying a pod that day.

I LIKE it! A lot. It doesn't look soft at all...the colors/comp are excellent...it really leads your eye to the city. I think it's my favorite photo I've seen of yours so far.

[Woolburr]

True...husband is also a civil war buff. Actually he's interested in most history. I got fascinated by Lee though...sometimes thought he was insane...sometimes brilliant. That must have been a horribly difficult war, since those generals were fighting side by side in other wars/battles. We have a civil war diary of my husband's great grandfather. He was in Andersonville prison during the civil war. The eyewitness accounts of an actual relative are both horrifying and filled with amazement....that anyone survived is incredible...(I won't say unscathed...just survived.)
Andersonville is one of America's greatest shames. The worst part is the fact that is was just Americans involved...not like they were invaders from a foreign land.

[theflyingkiwi]

Whaddya folks think of this:

that's very nice. I wish I could do shots like that where I live.

[Claire]

Gosh, I leave for a couple of hours and you have already posted another few pages?!

[Permagrin]

Andersonville is one of America's greatest shames. The worst part is the fact that is was just Americans involved...not like they were invaders from a foreign land.

yes, I agree...I'd heard that before...but I never really comprehended it until I read this. Talk about heart rending. Grandfather lost his heels in that prison...but he survived...

[Lightstream]

Thanks all :)

Nice looking skyline....guess that was pre-fire?

Yup, this was shot months ago. Let's see...8/29. Smoke has cleared over the city today, though.. thank god for the improved weather. They are now calling it a 'break' (which it really is), but they are concerned about the weather worsening this Thursday. They plan to backburn and bulldoze lines during this time.

I LIKE it! A lot. It doesn't look soft at all...the colors/comp are excellent...it really leads your eye to the city. I think it's my favorite photo I've seen of yours so far.

Wow.. thanks :) I dug this one out of the archive to make a print out of it, I am putting together a small folder with the very best shots I have taken to show others. BTW, hood and B+W MRC UV filter on.

that's very nice. I wish I could do shots like that where I live.


Sure you can.. are you near a big city? They can look spectacular at night, go at dusk.

[Claire]

Yoda, that city image is really nice!

[Lightstream]

Yoda, that city image is really nice!

Thanks Claire :)

[theflyingkiwi]

Sure you can.. are you near a big city? They can look spectacular at night, go at dusk.

nope. I would have to drive up to auckland for a shoot like that

[Lightstream]

nope. I would have to drive up to auckland for a shoot like that


Ooops.. yeah, that makes it a bit challenging. But if you do happen to go, bring your camera and image stabilizer or better still, a tripod.

[Woolburr]

I thought Hamilton was a fair sized city? Nothing interesting along Victoria Street?

[Lightstream]

I just had a glance at my map.. Hamilton is just 120km from Auckland.. do you drive? I've driven far further than that for the sake of a photo op ;) Wool will recall my 500mi trip.. actually ended up being 800mi.. :D but yielded phenomenal photos.

[theflyingkiwi]

Hamilton is the 4th largest city in New Zealand. total population is about 120,000. The city it self is located in the heart of the waikato, which is a dairy country. the city has the longest river in NZ running thru it called the waikato river.

We have manged to get the rights for the SuperV8 series motorr acing, the WRC Rally and the biggest event for the farming community in the southern hemisphere , the field days.

most of the waikato is flat and there's not much of a place I can go to take a city wide shot. I have only lived here for about 5 years and I do keep asking people if they know of a place. alas no :(

I just had a glance at my map.. Hamilton is just 120km from Auckland.. do you drive? I've driven far further than that for the sake of a photo op ;) Wool will recall my 500mi trip.. actually ended up being 800mi.. :D but yielded phenomenal photos.

yea I got a car. Auckland is one of those places I don't like to go to much. but I fear that I might be moving there next year.

[Woolburr]

You need a big step ladder Mark!

[Woolburr]

yes, I agree...I'd heard that before...but I never really comprehended it until I read this. Talk about heart rending. Grandfather lost his heels in that prison...but he survived...

Only the very strong and the very lucky survived that hell hole. I had a teacher that was always harping about man's inhumanity to man....that place was the epitome.

[Lightstream]

I was actually on flat level ground.. but the river does make it easy I agree :)

[theflyingkiwi]

You need a big step ladder Mark!

that's true. one of the advantages of where I live is the fact that everything is so close. I am 1 hour away from the biggest city in NZ, Auckland. 1 hour from each cost and during the winter 1 hour from the snow.

And yet I have never been to the snow

[theflyingkiwi]

I was actually on flat level ground.. but the river does make it easy I agree :)

ahh yea I got a smaller river than that :) but it's something the city doesn't do very well and that is take advantage of the river.

[theflyingkiwi]

http://hamilton.co.nz/page/pageid/2145833419

for more info

[Woolburr]

We have a beautiful river here and not one inch of developed riverfront. A complete and utter waste...nothing but homeless camps along the river.

[theflyingkiwi]

that's a shame. the river can be a place where it can bring together for events. each year Hamilton hosts the "great race" (http://www.thegreatrace.co.nz/) which is a rowing event.

And they are trying to get more and more things for the people to do by the river.

[Lightstream]

We have a beautiful river here and not one inch of developed riverfront. A complete and utter waste...nothing but homeless camps along the river.


Real pity... they are sitting on prize real estate and they don't know it!

[Woolburr]

The US Olympic committee wanted to develop a section of the riverfront as a training facility for the canoe and kayak events. The local politicians just can't seem to fathom the kind of economic impact that can have.

[Lightstream]

The US Olympic committee wanted to develop a section of the riverfront as a training facility for the canoe and kayak events. The local politicians just can't seem to fathom the kind of economic impact that can have.


Talk about missing the boat!

[theflyingkiwi]

but it's typical government tho. they always seem to be missing the boat somewhat.

[Woolburr]

Well...these people are some real prizes...several of the former members of the city council made a deal with the devil and closed down a local race track. The track had a long and storied history in American racing....and generated millions of dollars in revenue to the community each year. It was decided it made too much noise and was disturbing the tourists, so the politicians passed a law pertaining to noise at outdoor venues that there was no possible way that the track could comply with. They ran the track into bankruptcy and then bought it for a song. Now it is a park that really serves no purpose. Real slime balls in the local government have made yet another brilliant decision.

[Lightstream]

Crazy.. just crazy.

If it was making millions of dollars, those dollars had to come from somewhere. I imagine a sizeable portion of those dollars come from the tourists who visit.. you should see Melbourne AU during the racing season. The horse racing season peaks in November when "The Cup that stops the nation" is running, then there were the V8 Supercars recently at Philip Island.. could name so many more but each and every time the hotels are completely booked out with both the tourists and the locals.

So it would hardly be 'disturbing the tourists'.. they come for it! :D

Oh well, just another unfathomable decision...

[Woolburr]

I would say it is quiet in here, but Yoda's dang crickets are making enough noise to wake the dead...not to mention whoever it is that is snoring. Morning all.

[Lightstream]

I thought I had the crickets on MUTE.... :mrgreen:

[Woolburr]

They woke me up...long before I had planned to be.

[Lightstream]

They woke me up...long before I had planned to be.


OK..I will switch to birds cheeping. :D

Hopefully the birds will eat the crickets and all will be good...

[Woolburr]

Oh great...chirping birds and annoying crickets....nobody will ever get any sleep...except for whoever it is that is snoring like a chainsaw gone wild. Must be Permie or the Pirate making all that noise.

[Lightstream]

Very soon it will be snore time for me.. I snore something fierce too according to those who know me. ;)

night folks!

[Woolburr]

Oh great...more snoring....enjoy!

[wu_wei0]

Not me snoring. I was wakened by the crickets as well. Just listened to some presentations. SOme of them could have caused snoring but I was strong!
One more final to give- on thursday.

[Woolburr]

I wonder if the students would get the hint if the Prof were to snore during the presentations?

[wu_wei0]

I was yawning a lot, but that didn't seem to give them a clue. This was probably the worst set of presentations I have had in a class. But, discussion helped some. Sometimes you have to drag the information out of them.

[saravrose]

good morning all... what have I missed?

[wu_wei0]

NOt much from me. haven't been around. How was your trip?

[saravrose]

NOt much from me. haven't been around. How was your trip?


Somehow I ended up shopping with a friend of mine... We have this wonderful routine.. goes something like this..

me- "now Kate I will not use any kind of credit card. don't let me"
her- "well damn I have to use a credit card so don't let me write checks"
me- "I'm not going over a hundred dollars."
her- "me neither"

two hours later...

me- "it's a great sweater but I already bought one and I've spent ninety bucks I'm gonna skip it"
her- "Sari it's wonderful on you and it's not like you can spend anything up in the boonies"
me- "I don't really need it"..
her- 'eye roll telling me that that is sooo not the point'..
me- "I'm gonna skip it"

spent 120 bucks... It's a great sweater. We really need to not shop together...

sari

[wu_wei0]

I like spending other people's money. Am pretty good at it, too. :D I shop vicariously through others.

[saravrose]

I like spending other people's money. Am pretty good at it, too. :D I shop vicariously through others.

oh yeah!! we are very good at it.. I had a good time got half of my nieces done and my aunt and uncle all shopped for.. and bought myself a couple of things I said that I would but, usually change my mind.. Kate comes in handy because she tells me to just buy it and shut up when I want to go cheap on myself.. I think everyone does that.. But, I was productive.. Oh and we went to see The Nativity.. beautiful movie. and I mean just beautiful very worth seeing...

sari

[Permagrin]

They woke me up...long before I had planned to be.

Well, I hope you are asleep now then...I woke up earlier than I wanted and I think I went to bed earlier than you!

Oh great...chirping birds and annoying crickets....nobody will ever get any sleep...except for whoever it is that is snoring like a chainsaw gone wild. Must be Permie or the Pirate making all that noise.

~Raucous brouhaha~

Somehow I ended up shopping with a friend of mine... We have this wonderful routine.. goes something like this..
spent 120 bucks... It's a great sweater. We really need to not shop together...

sari

but didja use the credit card?!? If not, you're good!

I like spending other people's money. Am pretty good at it, too. :D I shop vicariously through others.

Yeah, me too. Wools recent "I should buy that lens" moment had me awake for hours!

[wu_wei0]

what lens was he advocating?

[Permagrin]

what lens was he advocating?

The 200 f/1.8....I've never seen a bad shot from that lens but it was $5K (approx)...on ebay from a seller in Taiwan. I'm pretty sure he decided against it though. Apparently our (yours and mine) Christmas presents were on the line...thusly I had to discourage him. ;)

[wu_wei0]

The 200 f/1.8....I've never seen a bad shot from that lens but it was $5 (approx)...on ebay from a seller in Taiwan. I'm pretty sure he decided against it though. Apparently our (yours and mine) Christmas presents were on the line...thusly I had to discourage him. ;)

Well, thanks for doing that. LOL-- unless he wanted to get both of us that lens. that would have been ok. Twins are supposed to get twin presents aren't they?;)

[Permagrin]

Well, thanks for doing that. LOL-- unless he wanted to get both of us that lens. that would have been ok. Twins are supposed to get twin presents aren't they?;)

I meant $5K (forgot the THOUSAND...doubt he'd spring for two...) :lol: :lol: Twin presents...hmmmm, I thought as we grew older we decided against that...since we found it can get "awkward" at times....;)

[wu_wei0]

I meant $5K (forgot the THOUSAND...doubt he'd spring for two...) :lol: :lol: Twin presents...hmmmm, I thought as we grew older we decided against that...since we found it can get "awkward" at times....;)
True, but when it comes to lenses and other gear. . . !
yeah I figured 5K, but he could do it if he wanted to ;) :lol::lol::lol:

[Permagrin]

True, but when it comes to lenses and other gear. . . !
yeah I figured 5K, but he could do it if he wanted to ;) :lol::lol::lol:

RIGHT! :lol: Lenses/gear: yes. Other less publicly discussed things: no ;) (guess I haven't had enough coffee today or I'd have remembered that!)

[wu_wei0]

RIGHT! :lol: Lenses/gear: yes. Other less publicly discussed things: no ;) (guess I haven't had enough coffee today or I'd have remembered that!)

around here, perhaps even some more publicly discussed things!:lol::lol::lol:

[Permagrin]

around here, perhaps even some more publicly discussed things!:lol::lol::lol:

ah yes...right. Even those! :lol: (I'll leave all hot tubs, brick delieveries and santa hats to you dear sister...) ;)

[wu_wei0]

I appreciate the sacrifice. :)

[Permagrin]

I appreciate the sacrifice. :)

Hey, that's what sisters are for! Always wanting the best for the other, right?! :D

[wu_wei0]

Hey, that's what sisters are for! Always wanting the best for the other, right?! :DSo true. :)

Well, I just got asked to stay another 30 min for just one more appointment. Who's a sucker? Nah- not really. I do care about the students. even if they are waiting til finals week to enroll for next spring.

[Permagrin]

I've always said you were virtuous! Now I just have something else to extoll :lol: when I speak of you to others.

[wu_wei0]

rofl-- selfless-- or a pushover?
I may have a couple charms and virtues, but they seldom see light of day. :lol:

30 more min and then pick up my regalia for graduation. Then home to see if there is still some nap to catch!!

Hmmm- the class she needed is closed so I am freeeee!! Nap time here I come:D

[Permagrin]

rofl-- selfless-- or a pushover?
I may have a couple charms and virtues, but they seldom see light of day. :lol:

30 more min and then pick up my regalia for graduation. Then home to see if there is still some nap to catch!!

....:lol: my sis..the virtuous "creature of the night" :lol: (I think you may have to be the one to extoll certain of your charms :lol: :lol: )

How many graduations does your school have? I thought they didn't happen until June?

[wu_wei0]

....:lol: my sis..the virtuous "creature of the night" :lol: (I think you may have to be the one to extoll certain of your charms :lol: :lol: )

How many graduations does your school have? I thought they didn't happen until June?

Two- one in December and one in May. Used to be a third one in August, but they did away with that one.

Hmmm- now that I am home I am not sleephyheaded anymore. :(

[Permagrin]

Two- one in December and one in May. Used to be a third one in August, but they did away with that one.

Hmmm- now that I am home I am not sleephyheaded anymore. :(

that's because there are things to do...no mind numbing moments...(or well, maybe few mind numbing moments..) I'm editing wolf photos for Yoda :)

[wu_wei0]

There's lots to do but I don't want to do any of it. and I probably won't. Not sure how I'll occupy my time but I doubt it will be grading papers or cleaning.

[Permagrin]

That's my girl! Shirking is GOOD! :lol: :lol: Just called puddle myself and said "look, I'm totally wrapped in editing...how do you feel about coming home to my having done no work?" :lol:

[wu_wei0]

Editing is work.

[Claire]

Had Xmas dinner with my company. I had two pints in an hour, a schnaps & white wine. The beer got to me, but now I'm sober again. Thank god I stayed away from the red wine...

[saravrose]

atleast you had fun... i'm stuck at work. I'd rather be shooting but I'm here instead... :( .. boring day. it's pretty outside though..

sari

[liza]

Editing is work.

Photoediting certainly is. It's why I've been working 20 hour days for the past couple of months.

[Claire]

Our MD got drunk & somehow when the CEO said he should have a moving out party/moving in for me party, the MD began saying I should dance & maybe I'd be drunk & wild enough to dance nekkid. I was like "Ehum, okeeey. Don't think so. Don't think we'd want that!"

[Lightstream]

Yeah, me too. Wools recent "I should buy that lens" moment had me awake for hours!

The ultimate shopping fantasy eh? The ability to go out and burn $5K on a lens.. I'm not into shopping either but that IS mine too!

Our MD got drunk & somehow when the CEO said he should have a moving out party/moving in for me party, the MD began saying I should dance & maybe I'd be drunk & wild enough to dance nekkid. I was like "Ehum, okeeey. Don't think so. Don't think we'd want that!"


The drunker you get the more careful you have to be about what you say and who you are with...the irony...

[Lightstream]

*birds cheeping*

SOOOOOOO quiet!!!!!!! Where ARE all of you!! Better not be 'recovering from a hangover' :p

[Permagrin]

*birds cheeping*

SOOOOOOO quiet!!!!!!! Where ARE all of you!! Better not be 'recovering from a hangover' :p

auuuuugh! I'm editing wolf photos...going on 5 hrs of it...auuuuuuuuugh

[saravrose]

at work. Bored. I hate mondays.. we have one reservation somebody shoot me now.. and then I have to be back here at 6am.

[Woolburr]

Borrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrring....zzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[Lightstream]

auuuuugh! I'm editing wolf photos...going on 5 hrs of it...auuuuuuuuugh

Oh dear.. *pats PG*

Take it easy... :)

makes me love my workflow which allows me to edit hundreds an hour.. of course they don't get the same TLC as yours though :D

[Permagrin]

Oh dear.. *pats PG*

Take it easy... :)

makes me love my workflow which allows me to edit hundreds an hour.. of course they don't get the same TLC as yours though :D

Okay Yoda...you must go examine today's efforts:

http://lc-images.smugmug.com/gallery/2121061

[Lightstream]

I'm not normally a fan of internet jokes because the same old nonsense gets circulated, but recently my crew have been turning up some REAL gems....







Will The Real Santa Please Stand Up

HO HO HO

If Santa Answered His Mail Honestly.....


Deer Santa,

I wud like a kool toy space ranjur fer Xmas. I'v ben a

gud boy all yeer.

Yer Friend, Billy



Dear Billy,

Nice spelling. You're on your way to a career in

lawncare.



How about I send you a book so you can learn to read and

spell?

Santa


************************************************** **

Dear Santa,

I have been a good girl all year, and the only

thing I ask for is peace and joy in the world for

everybody!

Love, Sarah



Dear Sarah,

Your parents smoked pot when they had you,

didn't they?

Santa





************************************************** **

Dear Santa,



I don't know if you can do this, but for Christmas, I'd like for my

mommy and daddy to get back together. Please see what

you can do.

Love, Teddy



Dear Teddy,

Look, your dad's banging the babysitter like a screen door in a

hurricane. Do you think he's gonna give that up to come back

to your frigid mom, who rides his ass constantly?

It's time to give up that dream. Let me send you some Legos instead.

Santa





************************************************** **

Dear Santa,



I want a new bike, a Playstation 2, a train,some G.I. Joes, a dog, a

drum kit, a pony and a tuba.

Love, Francis



Dear Francis,

Who names their kid "Francis" nowadays. I bet

you're gay. I'll set you up with a Barbie.

Santa





************************************************** **



Dear Santa,

I left milk and cookies for you under the tree,

and I left carrots for your reindeer outside the back

door.

Love, Susan



Dear Susan,

Milk gives me diarrhea and carrots make the

deer fart in my face when riding in the sleigh. You want to do me

a favor? Leave me a bottle of Scotch.

Santa





************************************************** **

Dear Santa,

What do you do the other 364 days of the year?

Are you busy making toys?

Your friend, Thomas



Dear Thomas,

All the toys are made in China. I have a condo

in Vegas where I spend most of my time making low-budget porno films. I

unwind by drinking myself silly and squeezing the asses of cocktail

waitresses while losing money at the craps table. Hey, you wanted to know.

Santa





************************************************** **

Dear Santa,

Do you see us when we're sleeping, do you really

know when we're awake, like in the song?

Love, Jessica



Dear Jessica,

Are you really that gullible? Good luck in

whatever you do. I'm skipping your house.

Santa





************************************************** **

Dear Santa,

I really want a puppy this year. Please, please,

please, PLEASE,PLEASE could I have one?

Love, Timmy



Dear Timmy,

That whiney begging crap may work with your

folks, but that crap doesn't work with me. You're getting a sweater

again.

Santa





************************************************** **

Dearest Santa,



We don't have a chimney in our house. How do you

get into our home?

Love, Marky



Dear Mark,



First stop calling yourself "Marky", that's why

you're getting your butt whipped at school. Second, you don't live in a

house, you live in a low-rent apartment complex. Third, I get inside

your pad just like the boogeyman does, through your bedroom window.



Sweet dreams,

Santa

[Lightstream]

OMG....

http://lc-images.smugmug.com/photos/116282062-M.jpg

Someone please pry my jaw back into its proper location in my head...

I LOVE the framing, composition and the portraits.. but one small little concern: Canon REALLY needs to put 4-stop IS on your long lens...

[Permagrin]

Glad you like it...you're welcome to any of them that you like. I've posted two shoots so far. Got a couple more to do.

[puddlepirate44]

OMG....

http://lc-images.smugmug.com/photos/116282062-M.jpg

Someone please pry my jaw back into its proper location in my head...


That's funny. Lisa has a shot just like that.... :)

[Lightstream]

Glad you like it...you're welcome to any of them that you like. I've posted two shoots so far. Got a couple more to do.


LIKE IT?! I'm totally blown away!

http://lc-images.smugmug.com/photos/116285878-M.jpg

Looks like a big furry dog (but the eyes give it away)

Absolutely magnificent..


*riiiing*

"Canon Sales, how can I help you?"

"What's it gonna take to get a 400 Diffractive Optics in my hands? I need state of the art image stabilization and ultrasonics."

"Not much, $5K?"

"DO IT"

[Permagrin]

LIKE IT?! I'm totally blown away!

http://lc-images.smugmug.com/photos/116285878-M.jpg

Looks like a big furry dog (but the eyes give it away)

Absolutely magnificent..


*riiiing*

"Canon Sales, how can I help you?"

"What's it gonna take to get a 400 Diffractive Optics in my hands? I need state of the art image stabilization and ultrasonics."

"Not much, $5K?"

"DO IT"

:D thanks Yoda...that made all the PP worth while! I mostly used the 100-400 or the 70-300 DO IS with these shots.

[Lightstream]

http://lc-images.smugmug.com/photos/116284646-M.jpg

http://lc-images.smugmug.com/photos/116284579-M.jpg

http://lc-images.smugmug.com/photos/116286663-M.jpg

Huge variety of facial expressions.. some of them look so docile, some of them look like they are gonna kick your ... upside down...

http://lc-images.smugmug.com/photos/116284395-M.jpg

[Permagrin]

:lol: :lol: :lol: Well I'm glad you are enjoying the gallery! :lol:

[Lightstream]

:D thanks Yoda...that made all the PP worth while! I mostly used the 100-400 or the 70-300 DO IS with these shots.


:)

I was thinking for a moment.. DO softness? But the DO shots look spectacular, very very sharp..

http://lc-images.smugmug.com/photos/116286840-M.jpg

This guy's look actually reminds me of a Welsh corgi I know.... (hopefully minus the SERIOUS bad attitude the corgi has)

The 1-4 shots look a little softer though, despite being held at 1/200 compared to 1/125 for this one. Your ISO 3200 shot on the 1DM2N is SURPRISINGLY clean (noise reduction?).. very interesting....

[Lightstream]

:lol: :lol: :lol: Well I'm glad you are enjoying the gallery! :lol:


You *HAVE* to take me on your next expedition!!

I'll be the guy showing up at the airport with the Greater White (vs Great White for the 100-400 and Big White for the 70-200, vs Greatest White for anything >500mm and almost too heavy to man-pack)...


*riiiing*

"Wimberley sales speaki.."

"Sidekick, here, NOW!! I got a Greater White on the way!"


I really like the portraits too.... if they were tack sharp that would be perfection.

http://lc-images.smugmug.com/photos/116283393-M.jpg

[Permagrin]

I used no noise reduction at all...that's why some of the shots are grainy. The ones that were really noisy, I changed to special effects...If the DO worked better on the 5D, I'd use it instead of the 1-4. I liked it that much.

[Lightstream]

That means your ISO 3200 on the 1DM2N is impressively clean... the one peeking over the fence has hardly anything at "L" size.

Your 1.3X crop factor would mean the DO had the 70-300's range.. actually come to think of it, DO + 1DM2N is same weight as the 1-4 + 5D... but the DO has state of the art IS.

[Permagrin]

It did do pretty well...though not as good as the 5D, IMO. I just had to work a lot harder on exposure...and in the woods, that's nearly impossible! That's why some of the noses are blown.

[Permagrin]

That means your ISO 3200 on the 1DM2N is impressively clean... the one peeking over the fence has hardly anything at "L" size.

Your 1.3X crop factor would mean the DO had the 70-300's range.. actually come to think of it, DO + 1DM2N is same weight as the 1-4 + 5D... but the DO has state of the art IS.

I wonder if the DO would work with a 1.4x tc using autofocus. I did love that lens. Although I still don't think it works as well on the 5D....but it was a wicked duo with the MKIIN. You should see my tiger shots with that combo...unbelievable...(I don't have them in my gallery yet or I'd post them...)

[Lightstream]

It did do pretty well...though not as good as the 5D, IMO. I just had to work a lot harder on exposure...and in the woods, that's nearly impossible! That's why some of the noses are blown.

True.. it's not "5D clean" either. The 5D's dynamic range (DR) and noise are still king.. a closer inspection (peeping as much as I can because your originals are not available - don't worry about that) shows that it is still not quite 5D caliber.

In JPEG you can selectively use dodge/burn to control DR, I wish they had dodge/burn tools available in RAW where the data is so I can 'paint' the blown spots on my own pics.

I wonder if the DO would work with a 1.4x tc using autofocus. I did love that lens. Although I still don't think it works as well on the 5D....but it was a wicked duo with the MKIIN. You should see my tiger shots with that combo...unbelievable...(I don't have them in my gallery yet or I'd post them...)

It might, actually. For kicks, I tried my cheap crap Kenko teleconverter on my 1D with the 70-300 IS (non-DO), it AF's but performance is very marginal.. very hit and miss and the micro-USM keeps stalling. (yup.. betcha haven't heard that).

Perhaps the 5D is outresolving the DO.. entirely possible as they said, the huge FF sensor throughly beats up on anything not all there. The 1Ds classic already beat the older EF 28-70/2.8L into the ground, Canon had to re-release their top of the line standard zoom just to handle the 1Ds.. which is not far removed from the 5D - in fact we have an additional 1MP over the 1Ds!!

I need to go to another meeting now but believe me, all thanks to you and your wolves, I now have visions of either a 300/2.8 with mad teleconverters or a 400 DO dancing through my head........ :mrgreen:


If you see this idiot running through the local park with a Computrekker fully loaded with gear, huffing and puffing, that will probably be me working out.... I NEVER work out... but one needs to train to carry the 300/2.8 and full tripod....

Such is the power of a few photos... geez...

[Permagrin]

True.. it's not "5D clean" either. The 5D's dynamic range (DR) and noise are still king.. a closer inspection (peeping as much as I can because your originals are not available - don't worry about that) shows that it is still not quite 5D caliber. Perhaps the 5D is outresolving the DO.. entirely possible as they said, the huge FF sensor throughly beats up on anything not all there. The 1Ds classic already beat the older EF 28-70/2.8L into the ground, Canon had to re-release their top of the line standard zoom just to handle the 1Ds.. which is not far removed from the 5D - in fact we have an additional 1MP over the 1Ds!!

I need to go to another meeting now but believe me, all thanks to you and your wolves, I now have visions of either a 300/2.8 with mad teleconverters or a 400 DO dancing through my head........ :mrgreen:


If you see this idiot running through the local park with a Computrekker fully loaded with gear, huffing and puffing, that will probably be me working out.... I NEVER work out... but one needs to train to carry the 300/2.8 and full tripod....

Such is the power of a few photos... geez...

Yeah, you can really see it (the diff. btw. high iso's) in my cougar comparison photos. The ones with the MKIIN are considerably noisier at 3200 than the 5D...the cougar was in a completely shaded enclosure...there was no way to shoot it w/o the 3200. And, ultimately, it was after that trip/because of that shoot, I sold the MKIIN and bought the 5D. I was so happy with the results the second time we went. And yes, if you ever come to the PNW, we'll take you to WA and show you the NW wilderness trek. It's about 4hrs from here...so it's at least an overnight trip...but worth doing. We usually spend one day there, spend a day at the Seattle zoo and one at Pike st. market/Seattle aquarium....it's a fun trip and huge shooting opportunities.

You'd love the trek. The grizzlies are amazing, several different species of large cat (though no tigers), buffalo...just lots of stuff...and I'd never seen...cougars...um, copulating in the wild, until that place...so it's definitely an education...plus your favorite owls are there...one of these days I'll get the actual gallery for those shoots up. But right now I'm averaging about 6-7 shots/hr PP...so it'll be a while...I usually come back from a trip like that w/over 1K of shots.

[Permagrin]

Yooooo hooooo,
hullooooo
anyone....
anyone....
Bueller....
Bueller....

[Woolburr]

Everyone is asleep...sure can't be watching the football game...booooooooooorrrrrrrring.

[Permagrin]

Everyone is asleep...sure can't be watching the football game...booooooooooorrrrrrrring.

evening Wool. I am watching the game...it picked up in the last 6 min. of the 2nd quarter...

[Permagrin]

Wool, that last Chicago drive was nice indeed....Thomas Jones is pretty good!

[Lightstream]

Yeah, you can really see it (the diff. btw. high iso's) in my cougar comparison photos. The ones with the MKIIN are considerably noisier at 3200 than the 5D...the cougar was in a completely shaded enclosure...there was no way to shoot it w/o the 3200. And, ultimately, it was after that trip/because of that shoot, I sold the MKIIN and bought the 5D. I was so happy with the results the second time we went. And yes, if you ever come to the PNW, we'll take you to WA and show you the NW wilderness trek. It's about 4hrs from here...so it's at least an overnight trip...but worth doing. We usually spend one day there, spend a day at the Seattle zoo and one at Pike st. market/Seattle aquarium....it's a fun trip and huge shooting opportunities.

You'd love the trek. The grizzlies are amazing, several different species of large cat (though no tigers), buffalo...just lots of stuff...and I'd never seen...cougars...um, copulating in the wild, until that place...so it's definitely an education...plus your favorite owls are there...one of these days I'll get the actual gallery for those shoots up. But right now I'm averaging about 6-7 shots/hr PP...so it'll be a while...I usually come back from a trip like that w/over 1K of shots.


back! (lots of loose ends to wrap up before I can go)

http://pix.lightrefineries.org/img/cry.gif why isn't there anything near as breathtaking near where I am..


I'm also having thoughts like:
- Why is the 300/2.8 ISL so expensive ($3.9K.. almost $4K)
- I'd like to bring the Eye of Sauron on the trek (200/1.8, $5K)
- Or the DO's light weight appeals to me (400/4, $5.3K)
- Why isn't there any way of getting to 400/4 at an affordable price
- I miss my 300 f/4L IS already
- But wish the 300/4 IS was state of the art
- Maybe I should consider getting the 70-200/2.8 ISL (this nonsense AGAIN!) so I can get 280mm f/4.0 with a teleconverter


PG!!!!! You and your wolves will be the end of me!!!!!!!! Just like you being done to death by the birds, I will be done to bankruptcy by the furry ones!

[Woolburr]

Yoda dood....are you related to Ronnie Sr. Jr.???? You are suffering some serious gear issues here.

[Permagrin]

back! (lots of loose ends to wrap up before I can go)

http://pix.lightrefineries.org/img/cry.gif why isn't there anything near as breathtaking near where I am..


I'm also having thoughts like:
- Why is the 300/2.8 ISL so expensive ($3.9K.. almost $4K)
- I'd like to bring the Eye of Sauron on the trek (200/1.8, $5K)
- Or the DO's light weight appeals to me (400/4, $5.3K)
- Why isn't there any way of getting to 400/4 at an affordable price
- I miss my 300 f/4L IS already
- But wish the 300/4 IS was state of the art
- Maybe I should consider getting the 70-200/2.8 ISL (this nonsense AGAIN!) so I can get 280mm f/4.0 with a teleconverter


PG!!!!! You and your wolves will be the end of me!!!!!!!! Just like you being done to death by the birds, I will be done to bankruptcy by the furry ones!

If it helps, 200 isn't a good length for the Trek. I used the 24-105 for the herbivore acreage and the 100-400 on 400 always, in the carnivore section. I'm sure you have cool things where you are! No wolves though. Sorry about that. I've got some shots of some white ones, somewhere...but I'll get them up soon.

[Woolburr]

evening Wool. I am watching the game...it picked up in the last 6 min. of the 2nd quarter...

Can't get excited about the game...never could stand Chicago....and the Rams are just plain erratic.

[Permagrin]

Can't get excited about the game...never could stand Chicago....and the Rams are just plain erratic.

I like the bears okay...ever since '85 (I think...with the Fridge) ;)

So have you been out shooting today? Sari was working, Claire was working, Wu was working, Yoda was working...Liza was enjoying her birthday, I'm assuming...I was PPing wolves....

[Woolburr]

And I have been fighting a blinding headache most of the day. Just doesn't want to let go.

[Lightstream]

Yoda dood....are you related to Ronnie Sr. Jr.???? You are suffering some serious gear issues here.

Naah, I do not buy and sell the brick repeatedly ;)

I love having the firepower to get the job done right.. and I am thinking that PG needs one more stop of light, no matter how that gets done.

If it helps, 200 isn't a good length for the Trek. I used the 24-105 for the herbivore acreage and the 100-400 on 400 always, in the carnivore section. I'm sure you have cool things where you are! No wolves though. Sorry about that. I've got some shots of some white ones, somewhere...but I'll get them up soon.

This would be the perfect situation for the 400/5.6 ISL.

[Permagrin]

And I have been fighting a blinding headache most of the day. Just doesn't want to let go.

SO sorry Wool....I HATE that!

[liza]

I like the bears okay...ever since '85 (I think...with the Fridge) ;)

So have you been out shooting today? Sari was working, Claire was working, Wu was working, Yoda was working...Liza was enjoying her birthday, I'm assuming...I was PPing wolves....

No, I didn't really enjoy my birthday. I worked all day and then listened to the kids argue this evening. At least I got the tree up and decorated. Once the kids move out, I'm not doing it anymore.

[Permagrin]

Naah, I do not buy and sell the brick repeatedly ;)

I love having the firepower to get the job done right.. and I am thinking that PG needs one more stop of light, no matter how that gets done.



This would be the perfect situation for the 400/5.6 ISL.

One more stop would have helped. I know those wolves looked like they were standing still but they were NOT...fast buggers...unless they were sleeping, like that one was. But I've decided I'm not spending that kind of money on glass. I'm having fun with what I've got. (and it's paid for ;) ).

[Woolburr]

Shame the boys couldn't even give you a break for your birthday. No wonder some mothers wish to do bodily harm to their young.

[Permagrin]

No, I didn't really enjoy my birthday. I worked all day and then listened to the kids argue this evening. At least I got the tree up and decorated. Once the kids move out, I'm not doing it anymore.

Sorry you didn't have a good day Liza
http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/108966800-S.gif ;)

[wu_wei0]

Everyone is asleep...sure can't be watching the football game...booooooooooorrrrrrrring.
Not sleeping, but that would be nice. BOred? yes and didn't even watch the game.

[Permagrin]

Not sleeping, but that would be nice. BOred? yes and didn't even watch the game.

Evening Wu :)

how did you bore yourself this evening?

[Woolburr]

Not sleeping, but that would be nice. BOred? yes and didn't even watch the game.

That is no fun....I am still looking for sheep for you.

[Lightstream]

Back to work.... got some logistics to take care of... but before I go.....one more good Net joke:


NEW DRUGS FOR WOMEN

D A M N I T O L
Take 2 and the rest of the world can go to hell for up to 8 full hours.

E M P T Y N E S T R O G E N
Suppository that eliminates melancholy and loneliness by reminding you of how awful they were as teenagers and how you couldn't wait till they moved out.

ST. M O M M A'S W O R T
Plant extract that treats mom's depression by rendering preschoolers unconscious for up to two days.

P E P T O B I M B O
Liquid silicone drink for single women. Two full cups swallowed before an evening out increases breast size, decreases intelligence, and prevents conception.

D U M B E R O L
When taken with Peptobimbo, can cause dangerously low IQ, resulting in enjoyment of country music and pickup trucks.

F L I P I T O R
Increases life expectancy of commuters by controlling road rage and the urge to flip off other drivers.

M E N I C I L L I N
Potent anti-boy-otic for older women. Increases resistance to such lethal lines as, "You make me want to be a better person."

BUYAGRA
Injectable stimulant taken prior to shopping Increases potency, duration, and credit limit of spending spree.

J A C K A S S P I R I N
Relieves headache caused by a man who can't remember your birthday, anniversary, phone number, or to lift the toilet seat.

A N T I-T A L K S I D E N T
A spray carried in a purse or wallet to be used on anyone too eager to share their life stories with total strangers in elevators.

N A G A M E N T
When administered to a boyfriend or husband, provides the same irritation level as nagging him.


I need some damnitol as well....wonder if the docs prescribe that to guys.

[liza]

I probably won't go to bed for a least another two hours. Didn't watch the game, either. I don't watch TV.

[wu_wei0]

Evening Wu :)

how did you bore yourself this evening?
Grading, watching a little tv. wasn't bad really, just needed more stimulation
That is no fun....I am still looking for sheep for you.
Thanks, Wool. YOu are a dear. sheep seem to be in short supply so don't skimp on some for you. I'm willing to try other methods if needed. As sleepy as I was at the office today, I can't imagine how I haven't fallen asleep yet.

[Permagrin]

Well as soon as the game is over (1 min.) I'm heading to bed...night everyone :)
TTFN

[wu_wei0]

night, sis. sweet dreams

[Woolburr]

Grading, watching a little tv. wasn't bad really, just needed more stimulation

Thanks, Wool. YOu are a dear. sheep seem to be in short supply so don't skimp on some for you. I'm willing to try other methods if needed. As sleepy as I was at the office today, I can't imagine how I haven't fallen asleep yet.

For all the good the dang sheep have done me lately....I am more than happy to loan them out in hopes that they prove more useful to someone else.:p

[Woolburr]

Well as soon as the game is over (1 min.) I'm heading to bed...night everyone :)
TTFN

You are turning into a pumpkin early...nite Permie.

[wu_wei0]

maybe you could try counting cows jumping over the moon.

[wu_wei0]

or sugarplum faeries

[Woolburr]

maybe you could try counting cows jumping over the moon.

That worked right up until the dish ran away with the spoon.;)