Red-Ringed Tupperware Party with (ineffective) Tin Foil Hats

[Woolburr]

They all wear them - Swiss cows have style. ;)

No - not really. We are getting rid of our house here and I've been focused on that. It's going to be SO much work. :(



I should have known it was a Swiss cow...they all seem to get nice bells...Pretty rare to see bells on the cows here.

You are selling your place in the States or the one in Thailand?

[Athena]

I should have known it was a Swiss cow...they all seem to get nice bells...Pretty rare to see bells on the cows here.

You are selling your place in the States or the one in Thailand?
The one in the states. :(

[Permagrin]

I've decided to not worry about my camera...it behaved SO well today (and it was solely a birding day)

the bushes were waving in front of this guy and it nailed the focus
http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/168560992-L.jpg

here, it very very slightly missed but the wind was waving ALL those leaves, so I'm wondering if any camera could have made it through there
http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/168562788-L.jpg

and well, here's one of my favorite shots of the day :)
http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/168562996-L.jpg

[Woolburr]

The one in the states. :(

Going to become a permanent foreigner now?;)

[Woolburr]

Those look good Permie...I honestly wonder about the pixel peeping going on with the camera...there is a lot of new technology that has come into play with it...just wonder if there isn't a bit of a learning curve involved. Next they will have Ken Rockwell validating focus issues with it!

[Permagrin]

You know Wool, it's probably the most complicated camera I've ever used. When I had the 2n, the dials/buttons combinations for everything frustrated me a great deal and I felt like it was complicated. This one removes all that...but it reminds me of film days in a way. For different situations (even closely following one another) different AF settings need to happen. (I used my AF search OFF most of the day, with great success, but sometimes I had to turn it ON, which I don't like at all because it hunts through the whole range of the lens, slowing AF down, or MF it to the area I wanted...if I kept AF search off.) There's just a lot of things that are left up to the photographer to adjust...like I said, it just reminds me of the old slr's in that way. You have TOTAL control. But if someone doesn't want that, I can see where it would frustrate them. With birding on the 2n, you could set your settings and be done with it except maybe exposure comp or iso. Not with this one, not at all. But it's getting easier, as I remember what to do.

[Permagrin]

oh and I think that highlight thing worked well today...I can't see any CA and the conditions were the same as always, these aren't crops but I did adjust exposure...

photos removed for editing

[Belmondo]

It's Alyssa's birthday today!

Wow. What pure coincidence...

Today is Lois' actualy birthday (the casino sign has been congratulating her for the last couple days).

Happy Birthday Alyssa.

Happy Birthday Princess Di.

[Woolburr]

I think part of this problem goes back to some ritual form of hero worship. There are a whole bunch of people that have decided that if Rob Galbraith says there are issues with the camera, then by default every copy must be defective. I only played with the Mk3 for about 45 minutes to an hour the other day...but the first thing I noticed about it was it isn't just a souped up Mk2n...there are distinct differences...I suspect it is going to take me some time to learn the ins, the outs and all the secret little quirks....provided I even decide I want to go that route. Hell...I think I still learn little things with the Mk2n every time I shoot.

[T.D.]

MOOOOO!!! Everyone!

We just got back from a drive on the beach with the convertible top down. Took a dip in the Gulf. I just can't wrap my mind around this whole thing. It's 9:30 at night. 85 degrees and the water was bathwater warm! It boggles my little Pacific Ocean-mind.

And I really need some technical help from Puddle. I think there is something drastically wrong here. The sun doesn't set over the water. What's up with that??

evening everyone!

Heyguesswhat? The MKIII STILL AF's with the 400mm+2xtc+1.4xtc

Very cool!

I don't know yet...I just got home. I had it mounted on a tripod to shoot a green heron (MY FIRST EVER!) but the dumb thing was SO FAR AWAY...so first I put both tc's on the 300 but it wasn't far enough and then I put them both on the 400 and had Dan MF it for me and it was just by accident that I found out it AF'd too but every time I pushed the shutter button (remote shutter) it still bounced everything on the tripod...

anyway...

We had a nice day birding...got some lovely (I hope) shots of the cedar waxwings and kildeer and some osprey shots but who knows how they turned out. As far as the green heron goes, I'm NOT counting on those shots to turn out...


now off to catch up

Were you at WF?

Nice Fleurs, Scott and Wu :)



I really like this shot...if this was with the 24-105, then all those people who say it has lousy bokeh, obviously don't know how to use it!

this one is my favorite of the bug shots!


That's actually the 30D and the 100-400 (Did I mis-state it earlier? :oops:). I'll post one from the 24-105 in a bit.

For some reason the AF missed the target on this one and caught the safety screen above the dugout. I was wandering around shooting from different spots in the park to see some different vantage points. I just liked how it turned out.
http://www.pbase.com/woolburr/image/81507241.jpg
Canon EOS 1D Mark II N ,Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM
1/640s f/4.0 at 280.0mm iso100 Tamron SP Pro 1.4x TC

Wool, I LOVE this shot!! Very beautiful. I've had the same thing happen, but have never ended up with something this fantastic.

It's a rental. My car is in the shop getting a new rear bumper and driver's seat because of that accident I was in back in May. The insurance company authorized me for a mid-sized rental car, but Hertz didn't have one available when I was there, so they gave me a free upgrade to a Jeep Liberty 4x4, just like Puddles'.


Ahh, got it. Cool.

okay Scott, here's a straight from the camera (no adjustments) shot with the MKIII, 400f5.6, 1.4 & 2x tc's on a tripod.


and TD (or anyone who knows) can you ID the bird with the orange bill (I don't have a better photo, it's from a crop of the above shot)? It wasn't a green heron and it sort of looks like a cormorant but not the one in my bird book...so, sigh. I can't add the green heron to my lifebook thingy but I could add this if I knew what it was.
http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/168549956-L.jpg

and Wool, all the info is showing up as 560mm at f10...weird.

I concur on the juvie double crested cormorant ID. Is this the "Green Heron" shot?

TD - nice lizzie. I got to see it in Permie's quote.

Thanks Athena!

I've decided to not worry about my camera...it behaved SO well today (and it was solely a birding day)

the bushes were waving in front of this guy and it nailed the focus


here, it very very slightly missed but the wind was waving ALL those leaves, so I'm wondering if any camera could have made it through there


and well, here's one of my favorite shots of the day :)
http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/168562996-L.jpg

Perm, I'm so glad to hear this. I really have wondered if there aren't a combination of things going on. Primarily, I wonder if the settings just aren't being adjusted properly. This camera is so complex. There certainly could be problems, but I know that "overthinking" a problem can certainly compound it.

By the way, this shot of the CWWOB is stunning! You really need to enter this into Salem Audubon's calendar contest. And as a side note, I'm guessing this shot may do more to endear you to the TF than anything you've done to date!

[puddlepirate44]

I think part of this problem goes back to some ritual form of hero worship. There are a whole bunch of people that have decided that if Rob Galbraith says there are issues with the camera, then by default every copy must be defective. I only played with the Mk3 for about 45 minutes to an hour the other day...but the first thing I noticed about it was it isn't just a souped up Mk2n...there are distinct differences...I suspect it is going to take me some time to learn the ins, the outs and all the secret little quirks....provided I even decide I want to go that route. Hell...I think I still learn little things with the Mk2n every time I shoot.

THANK YOU!!! I've been saying this ever since the MkIII came out. It's not another Mk2n. It's a completely different animal. You can't just assume that the things, parameters, hard/software will be identical on the Mk3 just because it's got the same shape! It's all new. There IS a learning curve.... you have to learn the camera all over again. It's not like the shift from the Mk2 to the Mk2n, wherein the changes were slight. It's a massive change. People keep saying, "There's something all wrong... it won't work like my Mk2n" Correct! It won't! Because it's not a Mk2n!!!

[puddlepirate44]

And I really need some technical help from Puddle. I think there is something drastically wrong here. The sun doesn't set over the water. What's up with that??

No, wait! What will really fry your biscuit is to watch a sunrise over the ocean! It's all wrong.

[Permagrin]

THANK YOU!!! I've been saying this ever since the MkIII came out. It's not another Mk2n. It's a completely different animal. You can't just assume that the things, parameters, hard/software will be identical on the Mk3 just because it's got the same shape! It's all new. There IS a learning curve.... you have to learn the camera all over again. It's not like the shift from the Mk2 to the Mk2n, wherein the changes were slight. It's a massive change. People keep saying, "There's something all wrong... it won't work like my Mk2n" Correct! It won't! Because it's not a Mk2n!!!

go ahead Dan, get it off your chest....let it all out....

[T.D.]

No, wait! What will really fry your biscuit is to watch a sunrise over the ocean! It's all wrong.

Wha??!! How can that be. The sun rises over the mountains and sets over the ocean. That's it. Period. There are no other options.

You're just messing wth my head!

[Permagrin]

MOOOOO!!! Everyone!

We just got back from a drive on the beach with the convertible top down. Took a dip in the Gulf. I just can't wrap my mind around this whole thing. It's 9:30 at night. 85 degrees and the water was bathwater warm! It boggles my little Pacific Ocean-mind.

Were you at WF?

That's actually the 30D and the 100-400 (Did I mis-state it earlier? :oops:). I'll post one from the 24-105 in a bit.

I concur on the juvie double crested cormorant ID. Is this the "Green Heron" shot?

Perm, I'm so glad to hear this. I really have wondered if there aren't a combination of things going on. Primarily, I wonder if the settings just aren't being adjusted properly. This camera is so complex. There certainly could be problems, but I know that "overthinking" a problem can certainly compound it.

By the way, this shot of the CWWOB is stunning! You really need to enter this into Salem Audubon's calendar contest. And as a side note, I'm guessing this shot may do more to endear you to the TF than anything you've done to date!

Sounds like you are having a really good time TD. That's cool!

We were at Ankeny. And yes, that juvie cormorant was what I thought was a green heron...sigh.

and thanks RE: the cwwob shot :) I got some lovely cedar waxwing shots today...they came in really close...I'm really happy with several different poses.

[Permagrin]

Wha??!! How can that be. The sun rises over the mountains and sets over the ocean. That's it. Period. There are no other options.

You're just messing wth my head!

*psssst...he means when you are out to sea*

[Permagrin]

funny thing happened today....I was shooting in a different spot than Puddle...and I caught him in the act of sneaking up on some prey:


Fearless leader
http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/168588641-L.jpg


Prey
http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/168588110-L.jpg

[T.D.]

Sounds like you are having a really good time TD. That's cool!

We were at Ankeny. And yes, that juvie cormorant was what I thought was a green heron...sigh.

and thanks RE: the cwwob shot :) I got some lovely cedar waxwing shots today...they came in really close...I'm really happy with several different poses.

Cool! I've never seen CWW at Ankeny. Where did you see them there? Yes, we're having a great time. We head back to my sister's house in Austin tomorrow. Wish me luck on the great Caracara trek!

*psssst...he means when you are out to sea*

Or when he was on the east coast in boot camp. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

funny thing happened today....I was shooting in a different spot than Puddle...and I caught him in the act of sneaking up on some prey:


Fearless leader
http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/168588641-L.jpg


Prey
http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/168588110-L.jpg

That goofy-a$$ed hat scared the feather right off that bird!;):p

[Permagrin]

you're probably right...but the east coast was never a consideration for me....too crowded...

".....all I ask is a tall ship, and a star to sail her by..."

[Permagrin]

oh, and good luck on the caracara trek!

[JSolie]

"Attacker of the Wedding Forum"
http://www2.sandynet.org/potn/SB-1179.jpg


Thought 1: "Those wacky ninjas...they're pesky."

Thought 2: Can the TF force an avatar change as well? :p :twisted: ;)

(BTW, that is a faux meanyhead, just didn't have anything with the correct grin and that's the closest...)

[aussieskier]

Evenin' folks, I am back on this side of the mountain. Every time I go over, it gets harder to leave, for more than just the obvious reason. :(.

It is still good to be home for the reason that it is home and feels good.

ANYWAYS...

T.D. It is good to see you are enjoying your self.

Permapuddle, looks like you have been having fun with your birding and snaged some nice shots as well.

[aussieskier]

"Attacker of the Wedding Forum"



These didn't turn out as well as I had thought in my head - I need a better background than the backyard... I will try again later (and maybe Riley can help with the flashes...)

Ha you finally did it, that was awesome! I am willing to help with flashes if you want .

[Woolburr]

THANK YOU!!! I've been saying this ever since the MkIII came out. It's not another Mk2n. It's a completely different animal. You can't just assume that the things, parameters, hard/software will be identical on the Mk3 just because it's got the same shape! It's all new. There IS a learning curve.... you have to learn the camera all over again. It's not like the shift from the Mk2 to the Mk2n, wherein the changes were slight. It's a massive change. People keep saying, "There's something all wrong... it won't work like my Mk2n" Correct! It won't! Because it's not a Mk2n!!!

I'm sure that someone is going to read my comment and instantly label me a kook because I dare to think that it possible for a well known figure to not have a good grasp of the operations of the camera. I think if you go in understanding the camera is totally different and you take the time to learn it...that it is and will be a fantastic camera for you, but if you go in thinking you know all there is to know about the operation of the camera, it is going to bite you in the @$$.

[wu_wei0]

Wha??!! How can that be. The sun rises over the mountains and sets over the ocean. That's it. Period. There are no other options.

You're just messing wth my head!
Does that mean that there is no sunrise in Texas?

[T.D.]

Thanks Riley.

Continuing with my "bugged" theme for today. This ginormous bug flew right in front of us and landed in this bush. This is the best shot I could get of him. They are REALLY loud!

http://hoyboy.smugmug.com/photos/168600613-L.jpg



Permie, here's the 5D/24-105 version of the lizard. Unfortunately, I only shot it at f/8 with the 5D so no creamy bokeh comparison. :(

http://hoyboy.smugmug.com/photos/168598923-L.jpg

[Permagrin]

oh that's okay Wool, we think most of your comments labe you as a kook ;)


j/k woooly :mrgreen:


oh and TD, we saw the CWW's at Eagle marsh. One thing I've noticed about the cww's...they are NEVER in the same place twice. When I go back to look for them, they are never where they were.

[T.D.]

Does that mean that there is no sunrise in Texas?

Excellent question. As a concept, yes, I think so. In tactile terms, I haven't found any evidence so far.

[Permagrin]

that looks like a locust!!! Holy moooo....what is it?

[T.D.]

oh that's okay Wool, we think most of your comments labe you as a kook ;)


j/k woooly :mrgreen:


oh and TD, we saw the CWW's at Eagle marsh. One thing I've noticed about the cww's...they are NEVER in the same place twice. When I go back to look for them, they are never where they were.

That sounds like a dilemma for Doctor Wu.

[T.D.]

that looks like a locust!!! Holy moooo....what is it?

Good question. From the sound, I thought it was a cicada (sp?). It looks like a giant grasshopper. I'm sure someone will know for sure.

[thomascanty]

That's no cicada. I vote for grasshopper.

[Woolburr]

Wool, I LOVE this shot!! Very beautiful. I've had the same thing happen, but have never ended up with something this fantastic.

This shot is one of the reasons I never dump shots off a CF card until I see it on a big screen...I knew the focus missed the second I hit the shutter...but the results seem to have captured several peoples attention...so I am quite happy with the outcome. Thanks!

[T.D.]

I put the 5D on the green zone and let my sister take a shot with it. She took a self-portrait (in my glasses). Can you say "vacation mode?"

http://hoyboy.smugmug.com/photos/168599052-L.jpg


Here's one I took of her collecting shells yesterday. (she's on the far right of the frame)

http://hoyboy.smugmug.com/photos/168232563-L.jpg

[Permagrin]

it looks like a locust
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locust

[Permagrin]

TD I have to show you two other CWW shots I just love (then I'm done for the night)

http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/168605340-L.jpg

http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/168605714-L.jpg

[aussieskier]

I put the 5D on the green zone and let my sister take a shot with it. She took a self-portrait (in my glasses). Can you say "vacation mode?"

http://hoyboy.smugmug.com/photos/168599052-L.jpg


Here's one I took of her collecting shells yesterday. (she's on the far right of the frame)



That... is a nice hat. :-D

[T.D.]

TD I have to show you two other CWW shots I just love (then I'm done for the night)

http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/168605340-L.jpg

http://LC-images.smugmug.com/photos/168605714-L.jpg


Thanks for the Locust ID. I think you're right.


Now, on to more important business.

THESE ARE ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS. LOOK AT THAT ULTRA CREAMY BOKEH!!

wowowowowowowow!!!!

[puddlepirate44]

I put the 5D on the green zone and let my sister take a shot with it. She took a self-portrait (in my glasses). Can you say "vacation mode?"

http://hoyboy.smugmug.com/photos/168599052-L.jpg

Oh, yeah. Serious vacation mode. Hey, clean up that beach when you're done. It's a mess.

[wu_wei0]

That sounds like a dilemma for Doctor Wu.
I do have my theories.;)

[T.D.]

That... is a nice hat. :-D

I thought you'd like that Riley!

You know the logo goes completely against my grain. But I really liked the way it fit. It's one of those flex-fit hats that actually fits my ginormous melon (size 8) :oops:.

[Permagrin]

Thanks for the Locust ID. I think you're right.


Now, on to more important business.

THESE ARE ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS. LOOK AT THAT ULTRA CREAMY BOKEH!!

wowowowowowowow!!!!


:) thanks...

I took those with the 300 and the 2x tc. I think they work pretty good together actually.

[Woolburr]

Good question. From the sound, I thought it was a cicada (sp?). It looks like a giant grasshopper. I'm sure someone will know for sure.

You have done well grasshopper...;) This is a cicada...
http://www.pbase.com/woolburr/image/81515580.jpg

[aussieskier]

You have done well grasshopper...;) This is a cicada...
http://www.pbase.com/woolburr/image/81515580.jpg
Mmmm, tasty :-D

[Woolburr]

Suckers are big enough to feed you and Scott for a week.;)

Nice speckled grebe shots there Permie...that is some fine bokeh indeed...the 300 produces some sweet stuff if you give it a chance!

[T.D.]

Oh, yeah. Serious vacation mode. Hey, clean up that beach when you're done. It's a mess.

I don't know what makes you say that!

http://hoyboy.smugmug.com/photos/168610370-L.jpg


http://hoyboy.smugmug.com/photos/168610292-L.jpg

Yes, that's a syringe. :rolleyes:

But all that brown gunk from the previous shot was weird seaweed. Other areas were quite clean. Did I mention that you can drive and park on the beach. You need a parking permit, but you can drive everywhere. On the map it shows as this pristine National Marine area. Umm, no. Not so much.


You have done well grasshopper...;) This is a
cicada...
http://www.pbase.com/woolburr/image/81515580.jpg

Cool! I just remember hearing them one time when I was in Vegas. I don't think I ever saw one. The guy I shot was VERY loud. In a group they would have been deafening.

[puddlepirate44]

I don't know what makes you say that!

Yes, that's a syringe. :rolleyes:

But all that brown gunk from the previous shot was weird seaweed. Other areas were quite clean. Did I mention that you can drive and park on the beach. You need a parking permit, but you can drive everywhere. On the map it shows as this pristine National Marine area. Umm, no. Not so much.

That's disgusting. I'm lovin' the Oregon beaches more than ever now.

[Permagrin]

You have done well grasshopper...;) This is a cicada...
http://www.pbase.com/woolburr/image/81515580.jpg

okay, it took me a full several minutes to calm down after seeing this...I can only say that I'm thankful I live in an area where it DOES NOT! :shock: :shock: :shock:

[Woolburr]

Cicadas just make noise...and die...This guy was about 3"-3.5" long...and lived in Georgia. He was just a minor annoyance with the noise....the fire ants were a whole different story.:evil:

[T.D.]

Dan, Dan and others so inclined....

Here's the USS Lexington from today:

http://hoyboy.smugmug.com/photos/168616538-L.jpg

[puddlepirate44]

Dan, Dan and others so inclined....

Here's the USS Lexington from today:

http://hoyboy.smugmug.com/photos/168616538-L.jpg

Nice! Wool, you seein' the forebear to your ship here?

[Woolburr]

Dan, Dan and others so inclined....

Here's the USS Lexington from today:

http://hoyboy.smugmug.com/photos/168616538-L.jpg

Kind of neat to see such a simple carrier...the island free of all the modern technology.;) Of course, there is an Intruder parked on the flight deck....not sure that baby could support Intruder ops. Also looks to be an S3 Viking on the fantail...not sure that would have ever been able to operate from the Lex either. Guess they just have Navy aircraft aboard and are not era specific.

[T.D.]

Kind of neat to see such a simple carrier...the island free of all the modern technology.;) Of course, there is an Intruder parked on the flight deck....not sure that baby could support Intruder ops.



I understand about 2/3 of what you just said.

Other Dan, we saw a CG jet tonight! I didn't get a shot of it, but my sister got it on video. It was very cool.

[Woolburr]

The aircraft parked in front of the island structure is an A-6 Intruder....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-6_Intruder and the one at the extreme rear of the ship is an S3 Viking. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-3_Viking Both were assigned to carriers during the 70s onward.

[T.D.]

The aircraft parked in front of the island structure is an A-6 Intruder....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-6_Intruder and the one at the extreme rear of the ship is an S3 Viking. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-3_Viking Both were assigned to carriers during the 70s onward.

Ahh, got it. Thanks.

Here's a little more detailed shot:

http://hoyboy.smugmug.com/photos/168621389-L.jpg

[Permagrin]

was that with your 100-400 on 400?

[puddlepirate44]

OK, here are some shots from my camera. You know, the little toy Fisher Price camera..... :rolleyes:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1235/691073330_e35808a733.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1222/690207603_6fa1ef2b16.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1302/690208357_9dd8373eaf.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1306/690209087_1f6c042a12.jpg

[T.D.]

was that with your 100-400 on 400?

Nope, 24-105 (at 105) on the 5D .

[puddlepirate44]

The aircraft parked in front of the island structure is an A-6 Intruder....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-6_Intruder and the one at the extreme rear of the ship is an S3 Viking. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-3_Viking Both were assigned to carriers during the 70s onward.

Ah, the A-6. The Maneater. I loved to watch that thing fly. It seemed so ungainly. I liked it better than the A-7. I thought it was cooler looking.

Edit: I think I got that mixed up. I liked the A-7 better. I liked the intake under the nose.

[T.D.]

OK, here are some shots from my camera. You know, the little toy Fisher Price camera..... :rolleyes:





Wow, those don't suck.

;)
Nice job. Especially when you consider you didn't have to mortgage the house for the FP 30!

[aussieskier]

Well goodnight everyone.

Be good :grin: :wink:

[Woolburr]

I liked the EA-6B Prowler version even better...that was just one nasty looking bird...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EA-6_Prowler The good Wizards from VAQ-133 were assigned to us.

[Permagrin]

I'm off too kiddies :)

play nice...well never mind...just have fun ;)

[Woolburr]

Night Riley...

Nice shots Cap'n...FP did ya proud again today.;)

[Woolburr]

I'm off too kiddies :)

play nice...well never mind...just have fun ;)

And this is supposed to be news to us? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Nite Permie.

[T.D.]

Goodnight everyone. I'm out as well. Almost midnight here....

Gotta be on top of my game for the Caracara tomorrow!

[Jamie Holladay]

Good night All.

[DDA]

I've been going through old prints today and found another cow for you guys. :)

http://lifeprintsphotography.com/POTN/cow.jpg

sorry about the quality - my scanner here is far from top rate...

Good MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOrning! Nice shot Athena! Where in Switzerland was it taken? I'll post a cow I shot yesterday when I'll get home tonight ;-)

[ibdb]

Hi all -- hope TD survives the Tejas beaches. Having spent a significant amount of time in Galveston, I can attest to the the "unusual" materials that tend to wash up on the Gulf Coast. :p

Purty boid shots, Cap'n. (And I loved the TR sidetrip to Starbucks back a couple days :lol: ). Wandered around the Nisqually Wildlife Refuge for a while on Saturday, but my most interesting shots were of frogs and a robin. Not very exciting :( , but it was a nice walk.

Went motorsport shooting for the first time today. There was a historics meet at a track about half an hour from here. I think I took somewhere in the neighborhood of 500 shots -- 450 made it past chimping onto the laptop -- and 400 passed the test of being in reasonable focus and including a recognizeable portion of a car. :D Loved the 100-400 -- though it was heavy enough to make me think about a monopod. Might make it easier to work on my panning that way, too.

For those interested in seeing what a non-motorsport photographer does when he shoots motorsport, see my thread in the Motorsport forum (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=342816).

[JSolie]

MOO! G'nite everyone

[fi20100]

Good morning!



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Amazing shots! Wow!!!

[DDA]

I love those waxwings. Send us some over here ;-)

[Extirpate]

so the pizza lady is in love with me i think. it's always the same one so i think she purposely comes when i call. today she gave me a free pepperoni pizza because she was in the area, i think i might have a stalker. By the way, how is everyone tonight, today, tomorning?

[thomascanty]

You could have a worse stalker...

I'm doing ok. Just another boring day at work for me.

[Extirpate]

You could have a worse stalker...

I'm doing ok. Just another boring day at work for me.

true.. but i love food so it's working out well so far. i'm at work, too... good times right?

[thomascanty]

i'm at work, too... good times right?

I used to love working here, but not so much any more. There haven't been good times here in quite a while.

[tommykjensen]

Maybe its time to look for something new?

I am happy with my work (today I am working at home). At the moment I have lots and lots of overtime but thats ok because that means more money for my africa trip and camera gear :lol:

[thomascanty]

Something new would be nice, but I don't know what I want to do. I'd like to change fields, but I don't really know anything else. Unless I could find something photography related. That would be ideal.

[Extirpate]

where do you work?

[theflyingkiwi]

greetings red ring people that go mooooo

[thomascanty]

where do you work?

I work in the Information Systems area for a large hospital in the Los Angeles area (actually, we run the computers for a few hospitals). My title is Senior Operations Tech, but the job also involves some network support and clinical analyst duties, too. Basically, from midnight until 9:30am, we're the only people here, so we're responsible for everything that goes on. During the day shift, there's a whole crew of Network Techs and Clinical Analysts, so there's less for the day shift Operators to handle.

[Extirpate]

I work in the Information Systems area for a large hospital in the Los Angeles area (actually, we run the computers for a few hospitals). My title is Senior Operations Tech, but the job also involves some network support and clinical analyst duties, too. Basically, from midnight until 9:30am, we're the only people here, so we're responsible for everything that goes on. During the day shift, there's a whole crew of Network Techs and Clinical Analysts, so there's less for the day shift Operators to handle.

sounds like you've got a busy job then.. and technical. i for one have a phobia of hospitals so i wouldn't like it much. :P sorry you're getting tired of it though... maybe somewhere else would need the same field, that way you at least get a change of scenery?

[Extirpate]

oh and hello Mark :D

[thomascanty]

sounds like you've got a busy job then.. and technical. i for one have a phobia of hospitals so i wouldn't like it much. :P sorry you're getting tired of it though... maybe somewhere else would need the same field, that way you at least get a change of scenery?

It can get busy at times, if there's a problem. Mostly it's just boring and very routine. As for moving somewhere else in the same field... Everything I do here I've learned on the job over the past 23 years. I don't have any certifications, which another company would want. So, I'd have to spend the time and money necessary to be tested and certified. That's a hassle I really don't need, and anyway, after 23 years in the field I'm sick of it. I really do need something different.

[Extirpate]

wow, after 23 years i'd be sick of it, too. heck i've been doing mine for 8 and i'm sick of it. :P

[puddlepirate44]

so the pizza lady is in love with me i think. it's always the same one so i think she purposely comes when i call. today she gave me a free pepperoni pizza because she was in the area, i think i might have a stalker. By the way, how is everyone tonight, today, tomorning?

Could be worse. Could be the Lima Bean lady. If there ever was a Lima Bean delivery service, which, in hindsight, there really isn't, so, I guess that really didn't make much sense at all. BUT, had there BEEN a Lima Bean delivery lady, and everyday she drove by to give you free Lima Beans, that WOULD really suck.

Must have more coffee....

[Extirpate]

Could be worse. Could be the Lima Bean lady. If there ever was a Lima Bean delivery service, which, in hindsight, there really isn't, so, I guess that really didn't make much sense at all. BUT, had there BEEN a Lima Bean delivery lady, and everyday she drove by to give you free Lima Beans, that WOULD really suck.

Must have more coffee....

ha ha, so very true. not a huge fan of lima beans. i think it was because they were force fed down my throat as a child.. or maybe it's just because they're truely disgusting. :)

[puddlepirate44]

ha ha, so very true. not a huge fan of lima beans. i think it was because they were force fed down my throat as a child.. or maybe it's just because they're truely disgusting. :)

Lima beans are evil. They were sent here by aliens to kill off the unsuspecting human children. But we were smarter than that. We chose Twinkies instead. ;)

[Extirpate]

Lima beans are evil. They were sent here by aliens to kill off the unsuspecting human children. But we were smarter than that. We chose Twinkies instead. ;)

twinkies... best right out of the freezer. ooh... and nutty bars. can we add those to the list?

[puddlepirate44]

twinkies... best right out of the freezer. ooh... and nutty bars. can we add those to the list?

Snickers were good out of the freezer. Is that a nutty bar? Charleston Chew is another one.

I'm off to work.... I'll think of other good foods to freeze....

[tommykjensen]

Snickers were good out of the freezer. Is that a nutty bar? Charleston Chew is another one.


You mean just the snickers bar? Not the snickers icecream bar ?

[Extirpate]

I meant the nutty bar that is wafer cookie with layers of peanut butter and surounded by chocolate. Snickers are awesome in the freezer, not the ice cream the candy bar. Also skittles cause they shatter kinda when you stick 'em in your mouth. I need candy now. I miss charleston chews... so hard to find them now adays.

[Athena]

Going to become a permanent foreigner now?;)Well - at least temporarily. :lol: ;) I'm not in a hurry for the adventure to end.

funny thing happened today....I was shooting in a different spot than Puddle...and I caught him in the act of sneaking up on some prey:TOO TOO too too funny!!! :lol:

Gorgeous birdies too Permie. :)

[timbernet]

Morning everyone!

[DDA]

Be careful when you MOOOOOOOO!!

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/offbeat/2007/06/30/shortal.mn.cow.moo.ticket.kare

[timbernet]

Be careful when you MOOOOOOOO!!

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/offbeat/2007/06/30/shortal.mn.cow.moo.ticket.kare


Some people have nothing better to do than complain about things. You live by a farm - DEAL WITH IT!.

When we moved to our current location, we knew we would hear tractors everyday - that is no issue. But sounds like this person would file a complaint. (we are surrounded on three sides by a tree nursery.)

[goatee]

Morning :D. I'm getting Sky+ next week :D. They've scrapped the £10 a month charge for non-premium subscribers, and if you threaten to cancel, they'll offer you a big discount on the £159 box and installation charge.

[timbernet]

Morning :D. I'm getting Sky+ next week :D. They've scrapped the £10 a month charge for non-premium subscribers, and if you threaten to cancel, they'll offer you a big discount on the £159 box and installation charge.

Excuse my American ignorance, but what is Sky+? TV?

[tommykjensen]

Excuse my American ignorance, but what is Sky+? TV?

UK based satelite tv is my guess.

[goatee]

Excuse my American ignorance, but what is Sky+? TV?

Sky is News Corp's Satellite TV offering in the UK. Sky+ is a HD based PVR, with twin tuners, so you can either record two programmes simultaneously, or pause live TV, etc. It's a really well thought out product, and I don't know anyone who has got it, who has then reverted to life without it. It'll do series stacking (hit a button to record every episode in the series you're interested in), and is just generally a really nice product.

[timbernet]

UK based satelite tv is my guess.

Sky is News Corp's Satellite TV offering in the UK. Sky+ is a HD based PVR, with twin tuners, so you can either record two programmes simultaneously, or pause live TV, etc. It's a really well thought out product, and I don't know anyone who has got it, who has then reverted to life without it. It'll do series stacking (hit a button to record every episode in the series you're interested in), and is just generally a really nice product.

Ahh - cool. Too bad I don't watch enough TV to justify cool stuff like that.

[goatee]

It almost makes more sense if you don't watch much TV, as it will record the few shows you're interested in, so you can watch them when you want, and not when they're broadcast.

[Woolburr]

I think the nut job that thinks cows mooing is criminal should be locked in a box with the idiots here that think flying the American flag is advertising and therefore illegal. Pretty sad when cops are called away from dealing with robbery, rape and murder to handle mooing cow and flag flying complaints.

[Extirpate]

I hadn't heard about the american flag thing. The TV product almost sounds like Tivo which is what we have in the states. Very awesome though i've never had it personally. :P

[thomascanty]

I hadn't heard about the american flag thing. The TV product almost sounds like Tivo which is what we have in the states.

You're in the states? Why does your location say Guam?

[goatee]

I hadn't heard about the american flag thing. The TV product almost sounds like Tivo which is what we have in the states. Very awesome though i've never had it personally. :P

It's like the Tivo, but it won't try to predict what you'll like, which is a massive bonus for the Tivo.

[DDA]

Yeah, I know, calling police for a moooooooooing cow is pretty pathetic (or is it criminal?)

What should I do? I hear the cow's bells when my window is open! Do you think I should sue the farmer? Oh, and sometimes, I hear police, ambulances, ... passing by. I think I will sue them as well. They're making way too much noise :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Extirpate]

You're in the states? Why does your location say Guam?

I'm in Guam but from the states. I'm in the US Air Force and got stationed here. Technically though Guam is a territory of the US... almost a state. :P

[thomascanty]

I'm in Guam but from the states. I'm in the US Air Force and got stationed here.

I was guessing it was probably something like that.

[Permagrin]

Moooooorning everyone :)

I woke too early and have just been rambling aimlessly around the house for the last 1.5hrs so I decided I'd rather surf potn aimlessly :)

so the pizza lady is in love with me i think. it's always the same one so i think she purposely comes when i call. today she gave me a free pepperoni pizza because she was in the area, i think i might have a stalker. By the way, how is everyone tonight, today, tomorning?

hey, next time ask her if she's a canon shooter :lol: :lol: :lol:

I think the nut job that thinks cows mooing is criminal should be locked in a box with the idiots here that think flying the American flag is advertising and therefore illegal. Pretty sad when cops are called away from dealing with robbery, rape and murder to handle mooing cow and flag flying complaints.

I couldn't watch the video (don't have the plug in on my mac) but people are crazy. When we moved in to our house 2yrs ago, we saw no sign of the railroad. In fact it's 2 blocks away off towards the more remote part of town (we live right on the edge of town and love it)...anyway, the first night we were here we practically jumped out of our beds because of the train whistles....should I sue the railroad? we learned to live with it and now rarely notice the trains...how could anyone be so anal about cows? I can't believe the owner was cited...

I'm in Guam but from the states. I'm in the US Air Force and got stationed here. Technically though Guam is a territory of the US... almost a state. :P

I thought you might be in the military. Where do you hail from originally? My son in in AK right now (CG) serving one year of isolated duty...then he hopes to get transferred to a polar pig, and travel round the world.

[thomascanty]

we learned to live with it and now rarely notice the trains...how could anyone be so anal about cows? I can't believe the owner was cited...

When I lived in Moorpark, the train tracks were less than 100 feet from our house. It's amazing how fast you learn to tune out things like that.

[Extirpate]

I will ask if she's a canon shooter... i through out a thread, too like you suggested but no replies yet. i'm all alone in this world... well guam anyway. woe is me. :P Also i'm kind of from Delaware but my father was Air Force so I grew up traveling the world. Made for a good life but i'm kind of tired of it. 12 years to go and i can retire and settle down, lol!

[Permagrin]

I will ask if she's a canon shooter... i through out a thread, too like you suggested but no replies yet. i'm all alone in this world... well guam anyway. woe is me. :P Also i'm kind of from Delaware but my father was Air Force so I grew up traveling the world. Made for a good life but i'm kind of tired of it. 12 years to go and i can retire and settle down, lol!

Retiring from the military is really beneficial if you can stick it out. My husband could have retired 2 years ago if he'd stayed in...we always think about that, as he's slogging off to work at 4am...and think about how hospital stays cost us $25 and now even with "insurance" they are astronomical...and how medical and dental was so much cheaper...yeah...hindsight and all. I don't know if son is going to stay in either but he's thinking about it for those reasons.

[Permagrin]

Sorry about your thread and the lack of shooters in Guam. You should do photo ops for us here...I've only seen Guam in the old photos of my grandfather's when he was stationed there in WW2. Mostly he was shirtless with a very big gun :D

[Extirpate]

Retiring from the military is really beneficial if you can stick it out. My husband could have retired 2 years ago if he'd stayed in...we always think about that, as he's slogging off to work at 4am...and think about how hospital stays cost us $25 and now even with "insurance" they are astronomical...and how medical and dental was so much cheaper...yeah...hindsight and all. I don't know if son is going to stay in either but he's thinking about it for those reasons.

I think that's why my father stayed in even though he was tired of it. I really like my job but it's becoming more administative which i don't like. I know what you mean about wanting to stay in, i already know a few like that that have gotten out and thought the civilian lifestyle would be far different. I think it's just the sudden change to do what your told and do what you want. :) I have a few pictures of Guam already... i can post one here and maybe you can all tell me what you think?

[Extirpate]

This is when i first got my CPL and was having a little fun with it.

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[Extirpate]

Tis a bit dark, could use some work in PS...

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[Permagrin]

Very pretty shots and a very pretty area. The second one may be a bit dark but not too much. I can see the details just fine on my monitor. It's a lovely place. Do you hike much around those hills or does the humidity prevent much exertion?

[Extirpate]

Edit*

i actually love hiking.. but a lot of this is private property. There are a few trails but a good bit of what's nice to see is built for tourists. A lot of beautiful waterfalls, but they're ruined by concrete walkways and you have to pay to get to 'em. Tourism and Military are the highest source of economy for the island so goes without saying...

And thank you very much for the wonderful compliments. :D

[timbernet]

This is my first day of training my replacement - woohoo!

[Permagrin]

Scott, which college are you heading off to?

[timbernet]

Scott, which college are you heading off to?

George Fox in Newberg.

[Woolburr]

Just got off the phone with Jon....I think he is having POTN withdrawal...he got on for a moment yesterday, but has no real good signal for his cell phone and has to go several miles to an internet cafe to be able to log on...The mountains here are far more remote than people suspect.

I had to chuckle at the thread that was floating around last week with some guy complaining that he wanted to post bigger pictures because the current limits did injustice to his wonderful work. He even got a little redneck with Pekka. I think he was about one word from finding out how the smite button works...because he sure didn't want to listen to reason. People that come from tiny little countries can't seem to understand just how big the US really is...and that not every house has another house 2 feet away.

Anyway...Jon says "Hi"....we are supposed to go to Roan Mountain on the NC/TN border to shoot some flahrs and scenics tomorrow mooooooooooooorning.

[Permagrin]

George Fox in Newberg.

that's a very pretty school...I had a friend who went there (many many moons ago)...the town is quaint too...some fun photos ops around town I'd think...

Just got off the phone with Jon....I think he is having POTN withdrawal...he got on for a moment yesterday, but has no real good signal for his cell phone and has to go several miles to an internet cafe to be able to log on...The mountains here are far more remote than people suspect.

I had to chuckle at the thread that was floating around last week with some guy complaining that he wanted to post bigger pictures because the current limits did injustice to his wonderful work. He even got a little redneck with Pekka. I think he was about one word from finding out how the smite button works...because he sure didn't want to listen to reason. People that come from tiny little countries can't seem to understand just how big the US really is...and that not every house has another house 2 feet away.

Anyway...Jon says "Hi"....we are supposed to go to Roan Mountain on the NC/TN border to shoot some flahrs and scenics tomorrow mooooooooooooorning.

HI JON!! *waving*

Sounds like you guys will be having some fun tomorrow. Hope the weather is exactly what you want.

I must have missed that thread...I have been reading lots of different things too but I didn't see it. Though if there was a complaint in the title, I probably would have skipped it completely :rolleyes:

[Permagrin]

Today I have to do some pp and uploading to my gallery. The only things I've uploaded for ages, have been photos to post here and the "TR's"....I've got to get busy...I just HATE pp...love to shoot but hate the background woik!

[timbernet]

that's a very pretty school...I had a friend who went there (many many moons ago)...the town is quaint too...some fun photos ops around town I'd think...



I like Newberg a lot. The vineyards are very pretty. Since I am driving from Boring to Newberg for my classes (don't ask why) I plan to spend a lot of time down there while waiting between classes. So I expect a lot of time for photography :-D

[Extirpate]

I love reading all the drama threads... :D i have a few favorites that i look for, won't name anyone but they're always out to be right and it cracks me up.

[tommykjensen]

I've got to get busy...I just HATE pp...love to shoot but hate the background woik!

Same here. Right now I am redoing a gallery from last year. When that is done I need to start getting my carnival photos up from this year, last year and the year before that and...... That will be a big task. I only got 3200+ photos from the carnival over years.

[Permagrin]

I love reading all the drama threads... :D i have a few favorites that i look for, won't name anyone but they're always out to be right and it cracks me up.

that's funny...I'm not sure what threads are being drama at the moment...but, I was just thinking that I just love (read that: HATE) being made irrelevant in a post. Usually one of those trauma type threads where everyone is upset and you post some options but because I don't make $100K a year at shooting, then my information is pushed to the side as less than worthless...:rolleyes: I don't know why I bother to try to be helpful sometimes.

[Permagrin]

Same here. Right now I am redoing a gallery from last year. When that is done I need to start getting my carnival photos up from this year, last year and the year before that and...... That will be a big task. I only got 3200+ photos from the carnival over years.

I know what you mean...I have (she says most shamefaced) :o about 10K photos to edit and either toss or get up in the gallery (I have a lot of private galleries so that I can rotate the photos in and out of the public ones...so the public ones don't get boring) and I just think the task is overwhelming so I put it off...and it just grows worse and worse...

[Extirpate]

that's funny...I'm not sure what threads are being drama at the moment...but, I was just thinking that I just love (read that: HATE) being made irrelevant in a post. Usually one of those trauma type threads where everyone is upset and you post some options but because I don't make $100K a year at shooting, then my information is pushed to the side as less than worthless...:rolleyes: I don't know why I bother to try to be helpful sometimes.

My favorite is i'm from the US so i don't know diddly squat... but yes, they make for good times when someone gets so angry over something to small, at a stranger, over millions of miles away, on the internet, and in an inpersonal setting. makes my day.

[Extirpate]

Same here. Right now I am redoing a gallery from last year. When that is done I need to start getting my carnival photos up from this year, last year and the year before that and...... That will be a big task. I only got 3200+ photos from the carnival over years.

3200+... yowza... sounds like you've got a lot of work ahead of you. :( hope it goes quick.

[tommykjensen]

3200+... yowza... sounds like you've got a lot of work ahead of you. :( hope it goes quick.

Hehe me too but I doubt it. Have lots of work at the moment. Beginning of august I am hoping to go shoot a historic race which then will add lots of photos to sort through and then when I return from africa I will probably have many thousands of photos to sort through.

[Extirpate]

Hehe me too but I doubt it. Have lots of work at the moment. Beginning of august I am hoping to go shoot a historic race which then will add lots of photos to sort through and then when I return from africa I will probably have many thousands of photos to sort through.

hehe... yeah seems like you'll have a lot of work now and then. :) awesome though you're going to africa, i'm jealous!

[Permagrin]

and then when I return from africa I will probably have many thousands of photos to sort through.

oooh, but I can't wait to see those though! That's going to be awesome!!

[wu_wei0]

It can get busy at times, if there's a problem. Mostly it's just boring and very routine. As for moving somewhere else in the same field... Everything I do here I've learned on the job over the past 23 years. I don't have any certifications, which another company would want. So, I'd have to spend the time and money necessary to be tested and certified. That's a hassle I really don't need, and anyway, after 23 years in the field I'm sick of it. I really do need something different.

Gads! I know just what you mean. I had 18+ solid years exerperience doing IT/IS stuff including my stint in network, as a consultant and then as a Functional Analyst among it. I have an advanced degree and all that but the state jobs I applied for (so I wuoldn't have to pay for testing- they take care of the cost) wouldn't even let me test since I didn't have an associates degree in a computing field. I was majorly PO-ed!!

I don't have the money, time or desire to get my certifications. plus I am a bit out of date aftert the last 4 years of academic stuff.

I have an impressive resume and Vita but not enough ed for some jobs I'm qualified for and too much ed for others and I don't want to be on tenure track in academia. JOb hunting has been a real pain.

[Woolburr]

I'll send you a link to the thread via PM Permie...Tommy did the guy a favor and locked the thread before he made an even bigger @$$ of himself.

[wu_wei0]

Sky is News Corp's Satellite TV offering in the UK. Sky+ is a HD based PVR, with twin tuners, so you can either record two programmes simultaneously, or pause live TV, etc. It's a really well thought out product, and I don't know anyone who has got it, who has then reverted to life without it. It'll do series stacking (hit a button to record every episode in the series you're interested in), and is just generally a really nice product.
I miss that about Dish tv. Plus I could program the tvs to change channels for me. I loathe changing channels myself so I just watch the Science network now that I just have digital cable. . . unless I have company- they I hand them the remote. It's nice to have someone flip for me. :)

[Extirpate]

I'll send you a link to the thread via PM Permie...Tommy did the guy a favor and locked the thread before he made an even bigger @$$ of himself.

teehee, i think i know which thread you're refering to. :D

[Extirpate]

I miss that about Dish tv. Plus I could program the tvs to change channels for me. I loathe changing channels myself so I just watch the Science network now that I just have digital cable. . . unless I have company- they I hand them the remote. It's nice to have someone flip for me. :)

You would make every man happy in this world by that very statement.

[fi20100]

PVRs rock! I just wouldn't be able to go back to using VCR.

[wu_wei0]

You would make every man happy in this world by that very statement.
LOL! You'd certainly think so:lol::lol: I am the "have a beer, here's the remote" kinda girl.SOmetimes I get a bit "miffed" when they want to just talk. hehehe
Not really, but you can talk and still flip channels!

[Extirpate]

LOL! You'd certainly think so:lol::lol: I am the "have a beer, here's the remote" kinda girl.SOmetimes I get a bit "miffed" when they want to just talk. hehehe
Not really, but you can talk and still flip channels!

marry me?

[Woolburr]

Hey now...our Dr. Wu is a purty special character. You need some serious references before you can ask her to marry you.

[Permagrin]

Hey now...our Dr. Wu is a purty special character. You need some serious references before you can ask her to marry you.

LOL...I love it! No dating/marriages/anything whatsoever without passing the "this is a tupperwarian you are interested in...better watch your step" test!

[Extirpate]

hehe.. i take it back... maybe she has a sister with the same values? j/k

[JSolie]

I work in the Information Systems area for a large hospital in the Los Angeles area (actually, we run the computers for a few hospitals). My title is Senior Operations Tech, but the job also involves some network support and clinical analyst duties, too. Basically, from midnight until 9:30am, we're the only people here, so we're responsible for everything that goes on. During the day shift, there's a whole crew of Network Techs and Clinical Analysts, so there's less for the day shift Operators to handle.

Hey Lonnie, I work in IS for a hospital supplier that has several large customers in the LA area. No red birds here, though... ;) It'd be serendipitous if you worked at one of our accounts...

[thomascanty]

Gads! I know just what you mean. I had 18+ solid years exerperience doing IT/IS stuff including my stint in network, as a consultant and then as a Functional Analyst among it. I have an advanced degree and all that but the state jobs I applied for (so I wuoldn't have to pay for testing- they take care of the cost) wouldn't even let me test since I didn't have an associates degree in a computing field. I was majorly PO-ed!!

I don't have the money, time or desire to get my certifications. plus I am a bit out of date aftert the last 4 years of academic stuff.

I have an impressive resume and Vita but not enough ed for some jobs I'm qualified for and too much ed for others and I don't want to be on tenure track in academia. JOb hunting has been a real pain.

I'm glad I'm not the only one! I don't even have a degree at all, so I'm even deeper in the hole. I did graduate from Computer Learning Center in Los Angeles back in 1985, but it wasn't an accredited college, so I only got a certificate, not a degree. And, while that certificate got me the job I have now, it's worthless these days. They taught us how to run and maintain mainframes there. These days, mainframes are extremely rare, and those few companies that still do have them have thousands of us old fogeys to choose from for every job opening they have available. I wish I could go back in time about 25 years and choose an entirely different career.

marry me?

If I were the type of person who actually wanted to get married, you'd be behind me in line... ;)

[thomascanty]

Hey Lonnie, I work in IS for a hospital supplier that has several large customers in the LA area. No red birds here, though... ;) It'd be serendipitous if you worked at one of our accounts...

I work at Saint Joseph Medical Center in Burbank. We also have Holy Cross in Mission Hills, Little Company of Mary in Torrence and Saint Elizabeth's in wherever the heck that is on our network.

We, in turn, are owned by the Sisters of Providence, based in Washington, so we're part of their system of I have no idea how many hospitals throughout the U.S. and Canada.

[Extirpate]

I'm glad I'm not the only one! I don't even have a degree at all, so I'm even deeper in the hole. I did graduate from Computer Learning Center in Los Angeles back in 1985, but it wasn't an accredited college, so I only got a certificate, not a degree. And, while that certificate got me the job I have now, it's worthless these days. They taught us how to run and maintain mainframes there. These days, mainframes are extremely rare, and those few companies that still do have them have thousands of us old fogeys to choose from for every job opening they have available. I wish I could go back in time about 25 years and choose an entirely different career.

Don't you wish 25 years of OJT was worth something. I won't get into it too much but in my line of work I have "higher management" that hasn't been in meteorology for a few months besides what they learned in college telling me what to do even though i've been doing it for nearly a decade... i just had to get that off me chest, heck it's all just educated guesses anyway right? darn that mother nature.