Red-Ringed Tupperware Party with (ineffective) Tin Foil Hats

[wu_wei0]

Just teasing you, sari!

I got my delivery today so i am a happy girl. That's about all I know.

[T.D.]

It was a joke!! I promise!.. I was never gonna put a whole chicken in the microwave.. truly, honestly.. I don't know how the heck i'm going to cook the thing but I won't be mocrowaving it..

boy did I start something.. :confused: :p

Don't worry about it. People for that which they do not understand. The finer details of microwave cooking are apparently at the top of this list here!!! (Remember, it's called "Microwave Cooking," not "Microwave Reheating!!")

Now look what you all just made me do. Waste my 2,000th post on chicken! :evil::evil::evil:

[saravrose]

Just teasing you, sari!

I got my delivery today so i am a happy girl. That's about all I know.

what did you get?..

[wu_wei0]

what did you get?..

The Imac. It is pretty and smells nice. :)

[saravrose]

Don't worry about it. People for that which they do not understand. The finer details of microwave cooking are apparently at the top of this list here!!! (Remember, it's called "Microwave Cooking," not "Microwave Reheating!!")

Now look what you all just made me do. Waste my 2,000th post on chicken! :evil::evil::evil:

hehe.. i'm sorry.. totally my fault I swear...

[Permagrin]

Don't worry about it. People for that which they do not understand. The finer details of microwave cooking are apparently at the top of this list here!!! (Remember, it's called "Microwave Cooking," not "Microwave Reheating!!")

Now look what you all just made me do. Waste my 2,000th post on chicken! :evil::evil::evil:

Happy 2K!

[Lightstream]

I have a Mac Mini that I keep in a box. I take it out just to sniff it once in a while. LIfe is good.

Well so it *IS* good for something after all :p

I prefer the new Intel versions.. they are nice, small, compact and easily stuffed in a colocation provider's rack.

Speaking of colocation, I did not get a server, but I got a virtual private server (VPS), subtle differences but still.

Anyway they turned up service yesterday, gave me a 50% discount (I like that) and I can move in today. Of course I actually feel like NOT working, so I will move in next month. :p

[Belmondo]

Don't worry about it. People for that which they do not understand. The finer details of microwave cooking are apparently at the top of this list here!!! (Remember, it's called "Microwave Cooking," not "Microwave Reheating!!")

Now look what you all just made me do. Waste my 2,000th post on chicken! :evil::evil::evil:Congratulations on your 2,000th post. That's a lot, although not necessarily by the standards of the immediate crowd. You're just going to have to write shorter, more inane posts. You're trying too hard to make sense.

[Permagrin]

Well so it *IS* good for something after all :p

I prefer the new Intel versions.. they are nice, small, compact and easily stuffed in a colocation provider's rack.

Speaking of colocation, I did not get a server, but I got a virtual private server (VPS), subtle differences but still.

Anyway they turned up service yesterday, gave me a 50% discount (I like that) and I can move in today. Of course I actually feel like NOT working, so I will move in next month. :p

Why work on vacation...have fun!
(see TD!?! Inanity at it's best)

[Belmondo]

I prefer the new Intel versions.. they are nice, small, compact and easily stuffed in a colocation provider's rack. And they smell better, too.

[Permagrin]

And they smell better, too.

probably most things smell like pine to you though...:lol: :lol:

[theflyingkiwi]

Do NOT make me waste #2,000 on explaining the virtues of microwaving a chicken. I think I may have forgotten to mention that you have to skin the beast prior to cooking. Thus no unsightly, icky white skin!

Now drink up!!!

Congrats on the 2k mark. it had taken me 3 years to get that far. however I post more this year than I ever did. I blame GKPE.

The Imac. It is pretty and smells nice. :)

ok now you are freaking me out :)

[T.D.]

Congratulations on your 2,000th post. That's a lot, although not necessarily by the standards of the immediate crowd. You're just going to have to write shorter, more inane posts. You're trying too hard to make sense.

So that's what I'm doing wrong?!

2,000 is a slow month for some of these folks!

And thanks, Belmondo, for acknowledging that I'm only trying to make sense and not actually accomplishing that fete! I wasn't sure anyone else noticed. I guess, now that I look back, it's obvious! :oops:

;)

[wu_wei0]

Now look what you all just made me do. Waste my 2,000th post on chicken! :evil::evil::evil:
Happy 2000!! Woohoo!! Time for a party! I have the beer.

ok now you are freaking me out :)
Only now???

Hey I realized today that our Wool is going to turn creamy pretty soon. we should have a big creamy Wool party then!

[T.D.]

Why work on vacation...have fun!
(see TD!?! Inanity at it's best)

Got it! (Heck, at this rate I'll be at 3,000 by Christmas!)

[Permagrin]

Happy 2000!! Woohoo!! Time for a party! I have the beer.

Only now???

Hey I realized today that our Wool is going to turn creamy pretty soon. we should have a big creamy Wool party then!

CREAMED Wool Party!
(now there's an alternative to prohibited & unmentionable fowl)

[wu_wei0]

First we have to celebrate the TD 2000. I never celebrated my 3000. Never got my Moooo.
Then we celebrate creamy Wool

[Lightstream]

CREAMED Wool Party!
(now there's an alternative to prohibited & unmentionable fowl)

Creamed wool? Is that what you get when the cow creams the sheep (murders it) to make sheepskin jackets for itself?

HOLY COW.......

I'M OVER 4K AND I DIDN'T NOTICE?!?!?! LAST I LOOKED IT WAS 37XX!!!

[Belmondo]

Hmmm. Creamy Lightstream. Sounds like the definition of bokeh.

BTW, I ordered a lens today......can't let you guys have all the fun.

[Permagrin]

Hmmm. Creamy Lightstream. Sounds like the definition of bokeh.

BTW, I ordered a lens today......can't let you guys have all the fun.

I saw that! An excellent lens, and one that I'm always trying to rob from Puddle's kit!

[saravrose]

Hmmm. Creamy Lightstream. Sounds like the definition of bokeh.

BTW, I ordered a lens today......can't let you guys have all the fun.

what did you get?.. all of y'all shopping is beginning to wear me down.... :confused:

[puddlepirate44]

*whispers to PG in a low voice*

BUY THE 85/1.2L!!!!!


Quiet, you. :evil:

I saw that! An excellent lens, and one that I'm always trying to rob from Puddle's kit!

Um... what lens will be I be missing?

[Belmondo]

what did you get?.. all of y'all shopping is beginning to wear me down.... :confused: The 200 f/2.8L. It's the only prime I'm missing between 14mm and 300mm. I really don't know why I waited so long, but I guess I felt it was well covered by the 70-200 f/2.8L IS.

[liza]

Ooooh..... them voices telling you that the 85/1.2L is in da house? The bokeh on that thing and the shutter speeds are ethereal..... I've never shot a 1.2 lens before and the SPEED....


Don't let him tempt you, Permie. The 1.8 version of the 85 is faster. :p

That sort of thing used to give my wife the giggles. Hmmmm. Haven't tried it in a long time.:rolleyes:

Get with the program!



BTW, I ordered a lens today......can't let you guys have all the fun.

What did you get?

[Permagrin]

Quiet, you. :evil:



Um... what lens will be I be missing?

That would be the 200 f2.8

[Lightstream]

Hmmm. Creamy Lightstream. Sounds like the definition of bokeh.

BTW, I ordered a lens today......can't let you guys have all the fun.

mmmmm cream!

Congratulations on your 200/2.8! I just saw your spendathon addition while fielding some questions about the VPS package I just bought.

Quiet, you. :evil:


Ohhh, ssssh. How much for my silence again? ;)

(Visa, Amex, MC, whole lot of others accepted via Paypal as card processor.. naturally Paypal direct or echeck is good too.. :mrgreen:)

[puddlepirate44]

The 200 f/2.8L. It's the only prime I'm missing between 14mm and 300mm. I really don't know why I waited so long, but I guess I felt it was well covered by the 70-200 f/2.8L IS.

You won't be sorry, Tom. It's a great lens, and, apparenty, my wife thinks so, too.

[liza]

The 200 f/2.8L. It's the only prime I'm missing between 14mm and 300mm. I really don't know why I waited so long, but I guess I felt it was well covered by the 70-200 f/2.8L IS.

Oh, you're going to LOVE that lens. I have one, and it's marvelous. Much better than the zoom, IMO.

[saravrose]

Wow!! good for you.. i'm jealous.. well, not exactly I'm currently hankering for telephoto and short.. but, i'm jealous that you got to go shopping... (glass shopping that is)..

[puddlepirate44]

Ohhh, ssssh. How much for my silence again? ;)

(Visa, Amex, MC, whole lot of others accepted via Paypal as card processor.. naturally Paypal direct or echeck is good too.. :mrgreen:)

If I was a threatening kind of guy, I might say something like, "You might consider the expense of your whispers...." ;) :)

[Lightstream]

Don't let him tempt you, Permie. The 1.8 version of the 85 is faster. :p

At first the brain went *tick* *tick* *Fatal trap 12: core dumped* *crash* when you said the 85/1.8 is faster...

After rebooting it, I then realized you meant AF speed :lol:

The 1.2 is very slow to someone who is used to blindingly fast ring USM. I know it's more than acceptable to some folks and I'm not questioning that or their judgement but I personally find it slow. I would really like something faster. The 1.2 is a craftsman's (women's as well.. using the generic term) lens, and perfection takes time. 1.8's better for us run-n-gun shooters.

Focus-by-wire instead of mechanical FTM is also very very wierd feeling.

[Permagrin]

Liza, the 85 1.8 is in my husband's kit too....all the lenses that people think I should own are! :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Belmondo]

I have an early 85 f/1.2L, and it focuses sloooooowly. It's a small price to pay, and isn't so objectionable that I'm tempted to upgrade to the MkII version. I did get to play around with my 100-400 today, and I had forgotten how slow a lens can be. It gets there eventually, but it takes its time.

[Permagrin]

I have an early 85 f/1.2L, and it focuses sloooooowly. It's a small price to pay, and isn't so objectionable that I'm tempted to upgrade to the MkII version. I did get to play around with my 100-400 today, and I had forgotten how slow a lens can be. It gets there eventually, but it takes its time.

It is SLOW! I think it's terrible for photographing birds...which was the reason I wanted a long lens....

But that 85 produces wonderful results, slow or not...I don't know that I'd say the same for the 1-4 (at least on the long end).

[puddlepirate44]

Liza, the 85 1.8 is in my husband's kit too....all the lenses that people think I should own are! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Score!

[Permagrin]

BTW MY NEW LENS COMES TOMORROW! WOO HOO

[PetKal]

II did get to play around with my 100-400 today, and I had forgotten a lens . It gets there eventually, but it takes time.

Hmm...looks like you may have to shoot a bit more often, eh Tommy :confused: ;)

[puddlepirate44]

BTW MY NEW LENS COMES TOMORROW! WOO HOO

I love it when you're calm and sedated. :)

[Belmondo]

Oh, you're going to LOVE that lens. I have one, and it's marvelous. Much better than the zoom, IMO.If it's anything like the 135, I know I'm going to love it. Actually, I'm not a huge fan of the 70-200 f/2.8L.

Okay...I am huge, but I still don't get too excited about that lens.

[Lightstream]

Now I remember why Petkal's treeshark shots using the 1.2 were so remarkable. AF speed is not exactly what you want while chasing animals ;)

The 1.2 needs the slower AF for accuracy anyway, since the DOF is so amazingly thin. However, AF accuracy is really all there.. I paint the target and the system nails it.

[PetKal]

BTW MY NEW LENS COMES TOMORROW! WOO HOO

WOO WEE !

[Permagrin]

WOO WEE !


no Peter, Wu is woo wee....

[Lightstream]

BTW MY NEW LENS COMES TOMORROW! WOO HOO

Attend to the essentials first!

Arrange for tent to be placed next to mail box with 55 gallon drum of coffee.

Puddle.. you might need to put the leash on so she doesn't jump into the arms of the delivery guy... ;)

[Belmondo]

Hmm...looks like you may have to shoot a bit more often, eh Tommy :confused: ;)Somehow, your quote looks a bit different that what I originally said, but I can't fault the truth of it.:)

[Permagrin]

Puddle.. you might need to put the leash on so she doesn't jump into the arms of the delivery guy... ;)

Now if our delivery guy was handsome I'd...uh, wait...OF COURSE NOT! I'd NEVER do that! :lol: :lol:

[Permagrin]

If it's anything like the 135, I know I'm going to love it. Actually, I'm not a huge fan of the 70-200 f/2.8L.

Okay...I am huge, but I still don't get too excited about that lens.

I love that lens...almost more than the 135L (not quite but almost)...love the bokeh on and like that it gives me a little more distance from my subject...

[Lightstream]

Now if our delivery guy was handsome I'd...uh, wait...OF COURSE NOT! I'd NEVER do that! :lol: :lol:

I was envisioning you jumping on him to tear the lens out of his hands and run back into the house, not... ;)

Puddle! Put the leash on anyway!!! http://pix.lightrefineries.org/img/crackup.gif

Congratulations on the lens......you WILL love it!!

http://pix.lightrefineries.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=1716&g2_serialNumber=2


BTW I know that is a cheap filter on my 724ISL, but that filter is hallowed: It has graced the front of my treasured (and still treasured) 17-85 IS USM for a long, long time. I'll upgrade to a B+W and give the 17 its filter back soon.

[T.D.]

BTW MY NEW LENS COMES TOMORROW! WOO HOO

That does it! I'm on my way with a serious supply of lattes and frappucinos.

Standby, Puddle, Code 3 backup is on the way.

I should be there in 15 minutes!

[wu_wei0]

no Peter, Wu is woo wee....

Folks are always getting us mixed up. Guess that comes with twin territory

[Permagrin]

TD, I just have a healthy enthusiasm....:lol: :lol: (mostly like a kid a Christmas)

[wu_wei0]

Now if our delivery guy was handsome I'd...uh, wait...OF COURSE NOT! I'd NEVER do that! :lol: :lol:

you'd send him on to your sister. . . :)

[Permagrin]

you'd send him on to your sister. . . :)

okay, next handsome unattached guy I find is heading to the mid-west!

[T.D.]

TD, I just have a healthy enthusiasm....:lol: :lol: (mostly like a kid a Christmas)

Hmmm....healthy? I'll have to think on that one!!


;-)

[wu_wei0]

. . . unattached delivery guy. . .

[PetKal]

no Peter, Wu is woo wee....
Oh yeah, sorry, I forget (who the heck is Woo Wee :confused: :rolleyes: )

[Permagrin]

Oh yeah, sorry, I forget (who the heck is Woo Wee :confused: :rolleyes: )

I'm going to have to make myself unforgettable...apparently my girlish enthusiasm isn't working too well! :lol: :lol:

[Lightstream]

Interesting observation: I just did some calculations and realized I can stock my ultra fast prime lens kit for LESS than the cost of a 24-70/2.8. This means deploying a 28/1.8, 50/1.4 and 85/1.8. WOHOOOO!!

No longer am I tempted by the 24-70. I will use my IS as general purpose walkaround and the fast primes for the days when I need the speed.

85/1.8 to be here by this evening....WAHAHAHHAHAA...

I am very happy... I made the right choice. Instead of building a f/2.8 system to 'do it all', I get a lightweight f/4 system that is very flexible (and a 5D that will let me trade ISO for aperture and speed), and an ultrafast prime lens kit for the days when I need ALL the available light I can get.

[PetKal]

http://pix.lightrefineries.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=1716&g2_serialNumber=2




Looks totally adorable and yummy.

[wu_wei0]

I'm going to have to make myself unforgettable...apparently my girlish enthusiasm isn't working too well! :lol: :lol:
He remembers you, dear sis. It is me that needs to work on "unforgettable"

[liza]

If it's anything like the 135, I know I'm going to love it. Actually, I'm not a huge fan of the 70-200 f/2.8L.

Okay...I am huge, but I still don't get too excited about that lens.

The IQ of the 200L is about the same as the 135. I just about fainted the first time I used it. It's that good!

[Lightstream]

Looks totally adorable and yummy.

It is... :D

Here's another shot to tempt....

http://pix.lightrefineries.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=1719&g2_serialNumber=2


Collar is optional, btw.

Canon's AU site says it comes with the collar, but a phone call resolved that issue - it doesn't.

[Belmondo]

The IQ of the 200L is about the same as the 135. I just about fainted the first time I used it. It's that good!I was just filling a hole in my collection, but now I'm anxious to get my hands on it.

[Permagrin]

Looks totally adorable and yummy.

now that's definitely tantalizing!
can't wait until tomorrow!

I was just filling a hole in my collection, but now I'm anxious to get my hands on it.

The only shot my husband ever took of me that I like was taken with that lens. (I've never posted it because I was using an XT (good camera in it's own right) when he took the shot!) :) :) :)

[Lightstream]

I was just filling a hole in my collection, but now I'm anxious to get my hands on it.

IQ of the 135 and 200 being similar.. I think because they are a similar 'stretch' design. They took the 135 and stretched it to 200, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. The 100/2 seems like a stretched 85/1.8 too.

[T.D.]

now that's definitely tantalizing!
can't wait until tomorrow!

The only shot my husband ever took of me that I like was taken with that lens. (I've never posted it because I was using an XT (good camera in it's own right) when he took the shot!) :) :) :)

Body snobbery?? Highly unbecoming! Somebody's getting too big for her 5D britches!




;-)

[Lightstream]

Body snobbery?? Highly unbecoming! Somebody's getting too big for her 5D britches!




;-)


Yer tellin' that to the ex-1DM2N owner yeah.... she's been spoiled ;)

[Permagrin]

Body snobbery?? Highly unbecoming! Somebody's getting too big for her 5D britches!




;-)

Now, I did preface it with, it's a good camera in it's own right!

[liza]

That 100 f/2 is another of Canon's hidden gems. I own it, too, and love to use it for volleyball and basketball.

[Permagrin]

Yer tellin' that to the ex-1DM2N owner yeah.... she's been spoiled ;)

Yeah, actually I was using it and DID own my MKIIN at the time...that's the history behind the comment...(so see, if I was a snob, I'd have been using the MKIIN) ;)

[saravrose]

Body snobbery?? Highly unbecoming! Somebody's getting too big for her 5D britches!




;-)

*hanging my head in shame and going to sit in the corner*..:( :(

[Permagrin]

*hanging my head in shame and going to sit in the corner*..:( :(

no no no!!!
don't hang head...the story...my MKIIN was heavy, I was never happy with it...so I used the rebel but felt bad that my husband bought me the MKIIN and I didn't want to use it! I hate to bring up a painful memory you see? Now all are sold but the 5D and I'm happy and the other owners are happy and you all are happy! BE HAPPY!

[T.D.]

no no no!!!
don't hang head...the story...my MKIIN was heavy, I was never happy with it...so I used the rebel but felt bad that my husband bought me the MKIIN and I didn't want to use it! I hate to bring up a painful memory you see? Now all are sold but the 5D and I'm happy and the other owners are happy and you all are happy! BE HAPPY!

The only way to heal this affront to the many proud XT owners (I count myself in this club...until this past August it was the only body I owned) is to post the picture.

That is the only way we will not always otherwise feel judged.

[saravrose]

The only way to heal this affront to the many proud XT owners (I count myself in this club...until this past August it was the only body I owned) is to post the picture.

That is the only way we will not always otherwise feel judged.

I agree here.. definately. that's fair.. post the picture... ;) ;)

[T.D.]

no no no!!!
don't hang head...the story...my MKIIN was heavy, I was never happy with it...so I used the rebel but felt bad that my husband bought me the MKIIN and I didn't want to use it! I hate to bring up a painful memory you see? Now all are sold but the 5D and I'm happy and the other owners are happy and you all are happy! BE HAPPY!

OH sure, now throw it in our face that you tossed the MKIIN aside because it was too heavy!?!

Next you'll tell us that you buy a new car every time it gets dirty.

Come on, Perm, we're just workin' folk here!

[PetKal]

I was just filling a hole in my collection, but now I'm anxious to get my hands on it.
You will likely enjoy the lens very much, she may turn out to be one of your sharpest/favourite lenses. I cherish mine perhaps even more than the venerable 135L. She is excellent for architectural details, etc...

[Lightstream]

Love my 350D. :D

http://pix.lightrefineries.org/albums/photos/abb.sized.jpg

Still looks great after 15K frames and a year of intensive use.

[ejwebb]

Did someone say MOOOOOOOOO?!?!?!?

http://ejwebb.smugmug.com/photos/117664350-L.jpg

Nothing quite like an anatomically correct bullcow...

[Permagrin]

OH sure, now throw it in our face that you tossed the MKIIN aside because it was too heavy!?!

Next you'll tell us that you buy a new car every time it gets dirty.

Come on, Perm, we're just workin' folk here!

:lol: :lol: :lol: I can't win with you can I :lol:
(you mean I shouldn't have sold my car?)

[Woolburr]

Did someone say MOOOOOOOOO?!?!?!?

http://ejwebb.smugmug.com/photos/117664350-L.jpg

Nothing quite like an anatomically correct bullcow...

Looks like a cow to me...where do you see bull?

[puddlepirate44]

Here's the pic of the Royal Wifeness with the Rebel and the 70-300 DO/IS

http://static.flickr.com/143/326788065_12344b562a.jpg

For the record... I loved the Rebel. It is a great camera, in spite of all the disparaging comments some make about it. It's usefulness is evident by the great shots many of you have posted here, and on other threads. I've seen many with a 1dMk2 shoot some frames that don't even compare with those that others have shot with the Rebel (Sari's snow shots, for example.).

[T.D.]

:lol: :lol: :lol: I can't win with you can I :lol:
(you mean I shouldn't have sold my car?)

Hmm, let's see...given the fact that you've got Petkal's left-leaning lighthouse for an avatar, I'm going to have to sayNO!!! YOU CAN'T WIN!!




;-)

[Permagrin]

Hmm, let's see...given the fact that you've got Petkal's left-leaning lighthouse for an avatar, I'm going to have to sayNO!!! YOU CAN'T WIN!!




;-)


....he said I could use it and I like it.

And there...the photo is posted...

[saravrose]

Here's the pic of the Royal Wifeness with the Rebel and the 70-300 DO/IS

http://static.flickr.com/143/326788065_12344b562a.jpg

For the record... I loved the Rebel. It is a great camera, in spite of all the disparaging comments some make about it. It's usefulness is evident by the great shots many of you have posted here, and on other threads. I've seen many with a 1dMk2 shoot some frames that don't even compare with those that others have shot with the Rebel (Sari's snow shots, for example.).

now that's nice.. thank you... Now, lets all say it together.. "it's the person behind the camera that matters"...:D :D

[T.D.]

....he said I could use it and I like it.

And there...the photo is posted...

Wow, is that one of those lame XTs in your hands?

I can't believe you'd be seen on the internet with one of those things!


:p;):p

[Permagrin]

IT'S THE PERSON BEHIND THE CAMERA THAT MATTERS ;)
(I never meant that it wasn't...dear RRTP friends!)

[Permagrin]

Wow, is that one of those lame XTs in your hands?

I can't believe you'd be seen on the internet with one of those things!


:p;):p

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Lightstream]

Here's the pic of the Royal Wifeness with the Rebel and the 70-300 DO/IS

http://static.flickr.com/143/326788065_12344b562a.jpg

For the record... I loved the Rebel. It is a great camera, in spite of all the disparaging comments some make about it. It's usefulness is evident by the great shots many of you have posted here, and on other threads. I've seen many with a 1dMk2 shoot some frames that don't even compare with those that others have shot with the Rebel (Sari's snow shots, for example.).

Nice picture..

[ejwebb]

Looks like a cow to me...where do you see bull?

Guess I'm a dufus - did not realize female cows had horns...:o:o:o:o

Regardless, thought I would share the moo after seeing the fine specimen posted earlier!

[T.D.]

Guess I'm a dufus - did not realize female cows had horns...:o:o:o:o

Regardless, thought I would share the moo after seeing the fine specimen posted earlier!

Hey Webb, I think you should post that lovely picture of Lola in the "Failure of Flight" non-contest. No more pure evidence of failure of flight than that tragic little pooch's flattened in nose!

[saravrose]

Lola has a wonderful face.. i'm sure her mother loves it..;) ;)

[Permagrin]

Lola has a wonderful face.. i'm sure her mother loves it..;) ;)

One hardly knows how to respond to this! :lol: :lol:

(then again, I'm sure my mother feels the same about me! :lol: :lol: )

[PetKal]

Hey Webb, I think you should post that lovely picture of Lola in the "Failure of Flight" non-contest. No more pure evidence of failure of flight than that tragic little pooch's flattened in nose!


Well said. However, Webby knows better. :cool:

[saravrose]

One hardly knows how to respond to this! :lol: :lol:

(then again, I'm sure my mother feels the same about me! :lol: :lol: )

Lola is a very interesting looking doggy..

(turner is going to pipe up and call her tragic at some point)...

[Lightstream]

OK folks....off on my Great 85/1.8 Raid...

Although I must say, lunch is a priority...and lunch comes first :p

[Permagrin]

OK folks....off on my Great 85/1.8 Raid...

Although I must say, lunch is a priority...and lunch comes first :p

Have fun!! Take some photos with the new lens!

[T.D.]

Lola has a wonderful face.. i'm sure her mother loves it..;) ;)

Don't bet on it!

I'm pretty sure we established in another thread that her mama left home the minute she saw that tragic little thing. She was never heard from or seen again. Left in utter shame, poor dear.

Tragic. Just tragic.

[saravrose]

OK folks....off on my Great 85/1.8 Raid...

Although I must say, lunch is a priority...and lunch comes first :p

oh hey... I thought i'd forgotten something today.... :confused: :o .. have a good day and lets see pictures... :D

[T.D.]

Lola is a very interesting looking doggy..

(turner is going to pipe up and call her tragic at some point)...

Dang! I guess I'm a little too predictable!!! :cool: :oops: :p

[Permagrin]

Don't bet on it!

I'm pretty sure we established in another thread that her mama left home the minute she saw that tragic little thing. She was never heard from or seen again. Left in utter shame, poor dear.

Tragic. Just tragic.

At least you're not predictable...

[T.D.]

At least you're not predictable...

:p:p:p:p:p:p:p

[Lightstream]

PG/Sari: Will definitely do....looking forward to the latest acquisition.. :D

[Permagrin]

:p:p:p:p:p:p:p

What can I say? You did rather pigeonhole yourself...:lol:

[saravrose]

it's true.. perma is right.. or maybe i've spent too much time online in the last few days?...:o ;) :cool:

sari

[Woolburr]

Guess I'm a dufus - did not realize female cows had horns...:o:o:o:o

Regardless, thought I would share the moo after seeing the fine specimen posted earlier!

Female Holsteins do have horns...but are usually dehorned early on to prevent potential problems. That is one cool balloon. Mooooooo

[Permagrin]

it's true.. perma is right.. or maybe i've spent too much time online in the last few days?...:o ;) :cool:

sari

:lol: :lol: probably all of the above..I know I have :lol: :lol: (although I missed out last night so I'm not feeling too badly)

DID I MENTION THAT MY LENS COMES TOMORROW? ;)

[T.D.]

it's true.. perma is right.. or maybe i've spent too much time online in the last few days?...:o ;) :cool:

sari

These are not mutually exclusive propositions.

[Permagrin]

Female Holsteins do have horns...but are usually dehorned early on to prevent potential problems. That is one cool balloon. Mooooooo

Potential problems, like pinning someone to the side of a barn for coming too near their calves (happened to my dad...)...

[saravrose]

These are not mutually exclusive propositions.

hehe.. yeah, it's just too cold to go outside, truly. the walls are starting to close in on me.. But, everytime I go out my lungs hurt and it feels like needles stabbing me.. :evil: :confused: ... so, here I am. watching the discovery channel and browsing POTN.. but, hey.. check this out.. I'm going to be there in eight months...

NeillyB5D

http://www.flickr.com/photos/neilyb/325877140/

[Permagrin]

hehe.. yeah, it's just too cold to go outside, truly. the walls are starting to close in on me.. But, everytime I go out my lungs hurt and it feels like needles stabbing me.. :evil: :confused: ... so, here I am. watching the discovery channel and browsing POTN.. but, hey.. check this out.. I'm going to be there in eight months...

NeillyB5D

http://www.flickr.com/photos/neilyb/325877140/

I can't wait to see the photos.... :D

[T.D.]

hehe.. yeah, it's just too cold to go outside, truly. the walls are starting to close in on me.. But, everytime I go out my lungs hurt and it feels like needles stabbing me.. :evil: :confused: ... so, here I am. watching the discovery channel and browsing POTN.. but, hey.. check this out.. I'm going to be there in eight months...

NeillyB5D

http://www.flickr.com/photos/neilyb/325877140/

Very cool! I'm so excited for you!

[saravrose]

I can't wait to see the photos.... :D

Very cool! I'm so excited for you!

thanks you guys.. I'm thrilled.. well, trying to be patient and thrilled at the same time... :D

[Woolburr]

When you order your new 100-400....then you can get real excited!

[Permagrin]

Are you going to get the 100-400 Sari?
I just sold mine, but I would still recommend it as a good lens for Africa. It's not too heavy (not in comparison to other larger lenses).

[saravrose]

When you order your new 100-400....then you can get real excited!

Are you going to get the 100-400 Sari?
I just sold mine, but I would still recommend it as a good lens for Africa. It's not too heavy (not in comparison to other larger lenses).

more than likely.. it's between that and Bigma... But, I'm fairly sure that the 100-400 is going to win out.. i'm not in a huge hurry to buy it, I do have some time before I have to think about a telephoto.. and i'm pretty tempted to pick up a 30D.. just for the sake of having two bodies.. we'll see...

sari

[Permagrin]

The 30D/100-400L was a fantastic combo! I never had anything but the 1-4 on my 30D. I loved them together....but now they are both gone. I thought I'd like the 1-4 on my 5D but it was just not a fast combination...

[theflyingkiwi]

The 30D/100-400L was a fantastic combo! I never had anything but the 1-4 on my 30D. I loved them together....but now they are both gone. I thought I'd like the 1-4 on my 5D but it was just not a fast combination...

in what way not fast enought, AF or just FPS?

[Permagrin]

in what way not fast enought, AF or just FPS?

Well, I don't think the 100-400 is the fastest focusing lens...and the 5fps seemed to help it out some, especially bird in flight shots....because if I used the 5fps, the 3-5 shots were in focus...almost like the lens took a bit to get focused on it's subject and then it was sharp and hot...but with the 3 fps...my keeper rates on moving subjects was about 2% total. Stationery subjects were a different matter...the keeper rate rose to almost 90% on both bodies...so I just felt the combo was the problem. With the 30D, I had about 50-60% keeper ratio on the bird shots...(in comparison).

The 5D has a very good AF...faster than the 30D, which made me originally think I could safely get rid of the 30D and have no probs...but for some reason, (for me) that particular (5D 1-4) lens/body combo didn't work so well.

[T.D.]

The 30D/100-400L was a fantastic combo! I never had anything but the 1-4 on my 30D. I loved them together....but now they are both gone. I thought I'd like the 1-4 on my 5D but it was just not a fast combination...

I have that combo and love it!

I also have the bigma. I never really was able to master it. The 1-4 is so much lighter. I can handhold it and get presentable shots. I could NEVER hand hold the bigma. I know a lot of folks do, but I sure couldn't.

[theflyingkiwi]

that's interesting. I wonder if it's the 1.6 crop that makes the difference.

since the 5D AF is better than the 30D, you would think that you should be able to get the same amount of keepers.

or it could be just a mind set.

then I really can't say. I haven't used the 100-400, nor have I used the 100-300.

[saravrose]

Thanks for the information Perma.. I'm kind of soaking up lens information and opinions.

[saravrose]

I have that combo and love it!

I also have the bigma. I never really was able to master it. The 1-4 is so much lighter. I can handhold it and get presentable shots. I could NEVER hand hold the bigma. I know a lot of folks so, but I sure couldn't.

hmm... that's a good argument for the 1-4.. I would like to be able to use it without too much difficulty.. and I have small hands... more information to consider..

[theflyingkiwi]

Thanks for the information Perma.. I'm kind of soaking up lens information and opinions.

in that case then, there is only one lens you need for your trip. and I can assure you that everyone will be jealous of you.

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/lenses/sigma-300-800.shtml

:)

[saravrose]

in that case then, there is only one lens you need for your trip. and I can assure you that everyone will be jealous of you.

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/lenses/sigma-300-800.shtml

:)


i'm five foot nothing that thing is bigger than I am.. in order to use a lens I have to be able to hold it upright... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: ... :p :p

[theflyingkiwi]

i'm five foot nothing that thing is bigger than I am.. in order to use a lens I have to be able to hold it upright... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: ... :p :p

:lol: :lol: size matters not, it's how you use it that counts. :p

but just think, you can get the shots no one else can :)

[Woolburr]

The Sigmonster and Bigma just aren't practical lenses for most people. They are too big, too heavy and too slow to be effective in most situations. They certainly are capable of taking fine pictures, but unless you're a Bubba or King Kong type...lugging these beasts around just won't work.

[saravrose]

:lol: :lol: size matters not, it's how you use it that counts. :p

but just think, you can get the shots no one else can :)

haha.. for six grand I think i'll keep looking.. but, thanks for the thought.. ;) ;) .. It's a bit impractical.. it would even be slightly inconsiderate to expect folks to make room in the vehicles for that thing..

sari

[saravrose]

The Sigmonster and Bigma just aren't practical lenses for most people. They are too big, too heavy and too slow to be effective in most situations. They certainly are capable of taking fine pictures, but unless you're a Bubba or King Kong type...lugging these beasts around just won't work.

1-4 is more manageable then?..

[Permagrin]

hmm... that's a good argument for the 1-4.. I would like to be able to use it without too much difficulty.. and I have small hands... more information to consider..

It's possible that the lens and my 5D needed a joint calibration...except that it work a lot of times, just fine with the 5D...but it is still a possibility.

It's definitely lighter than the sigma. The only thing I would suggest is not waiting until the last minute to buy it. There's a bit of a learning curve. First there's getting used to the weight (it's not light but it is lighter than a lot of big zooms)...then there's getting used to what light to use it in (it's not really a low light lens) and the whole taking a photo w/the IS...with my 24-105 and the 70-300 DO IS, you can just snap the shot...don't have to press the shutter part way for a micro-second and then take the shot. It seemed like with the 100-400 that you had to do that...I don't know why but I've heard others mention that they too have to do that with it as well. Once you get used to it, it's second nature, but of all my lenses, (those that I do or have owned) this one really flummoxed me the most. Some lenses are made for ease (that's how I felt about the 24-105 and the 17-40)...they just can't help but give beautiful shots :lol: but I worked my buns off to master the 1-4 and never did. And yet some people get amazing shots with it...anyway, like I said, I think there's a learning curve with it (but I also think there is with any large lens...learning to handle it's individual characteristics) and it's worth it to master it before your trip.

[theflyingkiwi]

The sigmonster you could only use on a tripod and you would only have a serious need for it.

I would think that the 100-400 would be a good lens to handheld. sometimes I even find my 100-300 a big heavy to hold. but that's only after a few moments of use.

[saravrose]

Oh I will.. i'm going to pick it up in the spring.. more than likely spend the tax return on it..

[Permagrin]

The sigmonster you could only use on a tripod and you would only have a serious need for it.

I would think that the 100-400 would be a good lens to handheld. sometimes I even find my 100-300 a big heavy to hold. but that's only after a few moments of use.

I thought about the 100-300L, you can get a killer deal on one at KEH.COM but people say it's slow to focus...do you find that?

[Woolburr]

The 100-400 is way more manageable....lighter, smaller and it features IS....I think of all the choices floating around out there....this is probably the best bang for the buck for your safari. You can even slip in a 1.4x 3rd-party TC and still auto-focus in good light. That's 560mm with IS....not found on the Sigmas.

[saravrose]

The sigmonster you could only use on a tripod and you would only have a serious need for it.

I would think that the 100-400 would be a good lens to handheld. sometimes I even find my 100-300 a big heavy to hold. but that's only after a few moments of use.

i'm rather attached to my monopod but truly have a hard time commiting to the tripod.. unless i'm using slow shutter speeds or shooting water I don't really bother.

sari

[liza]

:lol: :lol: size matters not, it's how you use it that counts. :p



That's a myth perpetuated by men. :p

It sounds like the 100-400 would be your best bet, Sari, in terms of reach, weight, and image quality. Heaven knows you won't be lacking any light in Africa. Are you considering a new camera body, too? The reason why I'm asking is that there are several used 20D's on www.keh.com (http://www.keh.com) for around $750 each. For the trip you're planning, I'd definitely want a backup camera.

[saravrose]

That's a myth perpetuated by men. :p

It sounds like the 100-400 would be your best bet, Sari, in terms of reach, weight, and image quality. Heaven knows you won't be lacking any light in Africa. Are you considering a new camera body, too? The reason why I'm asking is that there are several used 20D's on www.keh.com (http://www.keh.com) for around $750 each. For the trip you're planning, I'd definitely want a backup camera.

yes. as unnecessary as it really is I do like the idea of a second body.. in general I think it would come in handy.. not to mention not having to change lenses as much.. I think it would be a good idea though.. either a 20D or 30D.. I definately want to keep a crop sensor to let it work for me in Africa...

sari

[Permagrin]

yes. as unnecessary as it really is I do like the idea of a second body.. in general I think it would come in handy.. not to mention not having to change lenses as much.. I think it would be a good idea though.. either a 20D or 30D.. I definately want to keep a crop sensor to let it work for me in Africa...

sari

Most importantly, if you have a camera malfunction, you won't be w/o a camera during the trip!

And I agree with the others, if I was going to take anything on a trip like that, it would be the 1-4. I can't imagine trying to haul the bigma (or get sharp shots with something so heavy). You CAN handhold the 1-4, for a long time before it's weight gets to you (at least, I'm judging you're about my height, slighter but probably stronger)...

[Woolburr]

A second body is probably going to be a good idea. This is one of those once in a lifetime type events...you sure want to be prepared.

[Permagrin]

A second body is probably going to be a good idea. This is one of those once in a lifetime type events...you sure want to be prepared.

I would...totally. Slap the 1-4 on the 20 (or 30D) and a mid-range zoom (like your 28-105) on the other and you're good to go! (probably want a polarizer though...with that bright sun)

[theflyingkiwi]

I thought about the 100-300L, you can get a killer deal on one at KEH.COM but people say it's slow to focus...do you find that?

I upgraded from the cheap 90-300 lens so it's a big step in a lot of ways. one of things that I did expect was the weight when using it all day.

Almost everything that I have shot with it so far is motorsport, and I had found with the old lens that the camera would lose focus, and trying to get the focus back I would lose a couple of cars. However I find the 1-3 great and it focus quite quickly, even in low light. that was something I was supprised at when I first got it. How quick it was to focus. even with the 1.4x attached it's still quite quick. quicker than the old 90-300.

But in saying that I haven't used a lot of other lens of that focal length, so I really don't know how it compares to the 300F4.

[saravrose]

you all are terrible on my paychecks... but it's okay.. good advice all around.. and just about everyone has suggested the 1-4 so that's what i'll be going with... and i'll more than likely be picking up an extra body.. My XT has seen a lot of use so i'll be ready for an upgrade by next summer... besides, my Abby-girl is still making noises about wanting a 'Big Girl Camera'.. so i'd like to save the XT for her.. ofcourse she needs to be a bit older.. Seven is too young, even by my standards..

sari

[Permagrin]

you all are terrible on my paychecks... but it's okay.. good advice all around.. and just about everyone has suggested the 1-4 so that's what i'll be going with... and i'll more than likely be picking up an extra body.. My XT has seen a lot of use so i'll be ready for an upgrade by next summer... besides, my Abby-girl is still making noises about wanting a 'Big Girl Camera'.. so i'd like to save the XT for her.. ofcourse she needs to be a bit older.. Seven is too young, even by my standards..

sari

If it's any consolation, we're terrible on each other's paychecks too!!
Wool is still chanting "PMA" ( or something ) to keep himself from buying the 300 f2.8.
If chanting worked for me I'd try it! :lol: :lol:

[saravrose]

I would...totally. Slap the 1-4 on the 20 (or 30D) and a mid-range zoom (like your 28-105) on the other and you're good to go! (probably want a polarizer though...with that bright sun)

1-4 on a 20D.. tammy on the XT.. ofcourse take the 70-200 and the 28-105.. and I will be picking up a short prime.. it seems like I always want either wide or long.. and not much in between.. ofcourse the 70-200 is my favorite for portraits (outside)....

[saravrose]

I upgraded from the cheap 90-300 lens so it's a big step in a lot of ways. one of things that I did expect was the weight when using it all day.

Almost everything that I have shot with it so far is motorsport, and I had found with the old lens that the camera would lose focus, and trying to get the focus back I would lose a couple of cars. However I find the 1-3 great and it focus quite quickly, even in low light. that was something I was supprised at when I first got it. How quick it was to focus. even with the 1.4x attached it's still quite quick. quicker than the old 90-300.

But in saying that I haven't used a lot of other lens of that focal length, so I really don't know how it compares to the 300F4.

in a perfect world I can shoot with only primes.. Like Liza.. but, alas I must be practical..

[theflyingkiwi]

what are friends for? spending your cash :)

you could find that the replacement for the 30d could be out by the time you need to buy a new body.

[saravrose]

what are friends for? spending your cash :)

you could find that the replacement for the 30d could be out by the time you need to buy a new body.

that's why I can take my time picking up a second body... ;) ;) .. bodies you can count on to get cheaper... lenses not soo much.. So, glass first..

sari

[Permagrin]

that's why I can take my time picking up a second body... ;) ;) .. bodies you can count on to get cheaper... lenses not soo much.. So, glass first..

sari

the slow kiwi is quick!
Really, by next spring the 30D should drop more in price (it's already gone down a great deal) and it's an excellent camera!

[saravrose]

okay i've finished watching the special about Indian husbands stealing dowry's and kidnapped brides in Kirke-something.. I need to go to bed.. ttyl..

by the way, discovery channel waste of time. three hours and there's not one place I really want to go to...

[saravrose]

the slow kiwi is quick!
Really, by next spring the 30D should drop more in price (it's already gone down a great deal) and it's an excellent camera!

yep. I hear ya.. :D :D

night night all... I have a little under five hours to sleep..

[Permagrin]

Night Sari...I'm heading off too...ttyal

[theflyingkiwi]

the slow kiwi is quick!
Really, by next spring the 30D should drop more in price (it's already gone down a great deal) and it's an excellent camera!

yea yea what ever ! ;)

you know I had thought of that, only after clicking on the submit button. I told a work mate that if canon brought out a new 1 series under 5k NZ then I would be buying it. :lol:

but I think I would be dreaming with that.