rotate photos on the 20d & g3

[biggin]

CAn Anyone relate to this problem? I have a 20d and a g3 canon and with rotate picture turned on on both cameras only the photos fron the g-3 come out rotated correctly on vertical photos. The photos from the 20d come out 90degrees turned. I am talking about viewing the photos in my docoments/my pictures on windows. can anyone help with this?

[tim]

There's a setting on the camera that says whether to auto-rotate the photos. I think it enters the orientation info in the exif data, it's up to the viewer software to rotate it. I suspect the Canon download software might fiddle with things. ACDSee 5doesn't get the orientation correct, but photoshop does.

Solution: use a better image viewer than windows explorer.

[biggin]

I have the auto rotate on and it does work with somethings like you said it works with photoshop and it works on my zoombrowser. I really have had no complaints using windows explorer until now to veiw my photos. What is so wrong with windows and so much better about other image browsers. I am not trying to be a smart ass I really don't know. So if you have time could you respond again Tim, I have had help from you before and it was very much appreciated. Thanks man for the help!

[tim]

If some image viewers rotate the images properly and the windows image viewer doesn't, then stop using the windows image viewer! That was my logic in recommending that you use something else - if it doesn't work don't use it! Pretty simple recommendation eh? ;)

[biggin]

Can you suggest a good cheap image browser to use? What I cannot understand is why the g3 camera rotates in windows but the 20d will not! I guess it is just one of those things.

[Kostyanych]

Well, I had a G3 before. When I broke it I bought 20D.
As far as I understand Auto-rotate settings in the camera affects you IN CAMERA playback mode ONLY.

I used ZoomBrowser to download pictures from G3. And ZoomeBrowser has a setting to auto-rotate images during download. In other words, ZoomBrowser rotates these images.

But 20D doesn't use ZoomBrowser. And 20D's software dosn't have any settings about rotation.

That's my opinion why you are getting non-rotated images out of 20D.

And about software... ACDSee 7 can handle the orientation info and shows 20D pictures properly.

[tim]

IrfanView and FastStone image viewer are both free, I use the former more than the latter, but I use ACDSee v5 (a really old version) more than either of them. Newer versions of AcDSee add features I don't need, muck up the UI, and slow things down.

[RobbTC]

Raw images work fine with converting them and having them oriented in the correct direction. JPGs from the camera are not (although they appear that way in the EOS viewer). Even if you use the EOS viewer to convert all selected images (RAW & JPG), the JPGs are not rotated. Images pulled with the Camera Window from the P&S Canons (like the G3 and my S70) do appear correctly.

Luckily this only happens with JPGs, as I shoot mostly raw. Seems there is some bit in the pic the Canon isn't setting correctly.

Robb

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[Bob_A]

I'm totally confused as to what you guys are saying about EOS Viewer Utility. I have shot both in jpeg mode and Raw and the images are always shown as properly rotated in EVU ... just the same as with ZoomBrowser. Are some of you saying that EVU is showing all of your images as landscape (pictures taken in portrait not rotated)?

There is no feature in EVU to turn this on or off. As far as I can tell, if the camera is set to auto-rotate, the images are also properly rotated in EVU. But maybe I missed your point, and if I did I'll be happy to follow this thread to learn something new.

Bob

[RobbTC]

The EOS Viewer Utility does show the images correctly. Every other application doesn't (for shot JPGs). Converted Raw -> JPG files do show correctly. Imported JPGs from P&S cameras & the 10D show correctly (which means there must be some bit that is changed in the file during the transfer that tells all applications which way it is rotated). Since JPGs are copied (from 20D) and not transfered via the Canon software, that bit isn't being changed.

Robb

[Jon]

Earlier Canon digitals actually rotated the picures in-camera. The 20D (and I know not how many models before) just sets a "rotation bit" in the EXIF (standard EXIF 2.2 data value). If your viewing program doesn't recognize that rotation bit (Windows Explorer doesn't, for instance), the picture won't be correctly oriented. If your program does recognize the rotation bit, it'll show up correctly oriented. So it's a change in the way Canon handles the "auto-rotate" feature.

[roanjohn]

Windows Browser will not auto rotate your images.

Photoshop will!!!

Not sure about other viewing utilities.....I only use these two.

Ro1

[RobbTC]

Looks like Canon caved to the pressure.

They updated Zoombrowser & Camera Window (included with install) to now download images from 20D *AND* it rotates the JPGs correctly. Woohoo!!!

http://consumer.usa.canon.com/ir/controller?act=SupportDetailAct&fcategoryid=215&modelid=10464
Then click 'Drivers'