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mrclark321
14th of May 2005 (Sat), 23:32
OK... know that I finally ordered my 70-200mm f/4, what filter should I get?
Does it come with a filter?

Dan

crc_408
14th of May 2005 (Sat), 23:37
No filter included. I typically get a UV for my lens. Also got a circular polarizer for my 70-200mm

mrclark321
14th of May 2005 (Sat), 23:42
What brand is best?

Dan

tim
14th of May 2005 (Sat), 23:45
B+W is a very good brand, Hoya are good too. Some people use Canon filters and say they're fine, and they're cheaper than the other good brands. I think they're rebadged Tiffens, or something like that.

lancea
14th of May 2005 (Sat), 23:56
I got a "general brand" UV from B&H in case I need to use my lens when there's a bit of moisture around, but got a good quality Hoya "Pro 1" polariser as flare can be an issue when the sun's out. My Hoyas all say they are made by Tokina, but I think they are also sold as "Kenko".

There's a lot of people saying you shouldn't use a filter as protection, but I must confess the front lens on my 70-200 f/4 looks very vulnerable. If I had Tim's f/2.8 I'd be even more worried, despite all the advice that the UV isn't needed.

mrclark321
14th of May 2005 (Sat), 23:59
Do you lose any quality when you use a filter?

lancea
15th of May 2005 (Sun), 01:50
I believe the correct answer is "yes" :) I suspect a few cases of flare have been due to my UV filter, so I'm going to try leaving it off. For some ideas on the subject, see http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-feb-05.shtml Of course, when you have to use a filter - such as a polariser - I guess the argument doesn't apply (except the one about using a good quality multicoated glass).

tim
15th of May 2005 (Sun), 01:54
When you use a good quality filter you shouldn't lose much quality, but putting glass in the way of the light has to alter it at least a little.

mrclark321
15th of May 2005 (Sun), 22:28
What about buying the filters off ebay??

Medic1
15th of May 2005 (Sun), 22:37
I use hoya Super HMC......I have a UV and a CP for my 70-200, but I had problems with the UV messing with the focus. I think I just got a bad copy of th filter, the CP works great

lancea
16th of May 2005 (Mon), 01:05
What about buying the filters off ebay??
I've got two Hoya "Pro 1" polarising filters off eBay (baerhmall and ben.naden). No problems at all and the price was pretty good. I had to pay at least $US10 more than I would have if I'd lived in the US.

mrclark321
16th of May 2005 (Mon), 02:02
Should I get a UV or CP and what is the diff?

Dan

IainB
16th of May 2005 (Mon), 02:16
I bought a UV and CP. The UV tends to live on the 70 -200 F4L and the CP on the Tamron 28-70 XR Di, both being 77mm filter size.
As for the difference, a UV simply reduces haze effects. Generally it is a good 'protection' filter for the lens. CP is Circular polariser. Check this link: http://www.geocities.com/cokinfiltersystem/polarizer.htm
Don't buy cheap to stick on your best glass!

lancea
16th of May 2005 (Mon), 02:49
I've got a relatively cheap UV for use when I want to protect the front of my lens from spray or dust, but have just taken the plunge and followed the advice of those who say rthere's no need have a "protective" filter all the time. So - I'd say just get a good quality (multi-coated) circular polariser for when you want to cut-down glare and reflections, or make nice skies.

mrclark321
16th of May 2005 (Mon), 02:53
I would be so afraid to not use a filter for fear of damage to lense, last year at a wedding I dropped my A80 and banged it up pretty good. Sure would hate to do this with this lense!!!

Dan

grego
16th of May 2005 (Mon), 03:18
Got to use a UV filter for protection(if not using any other filter for effects).

It costs like 20 dollars or so to replace a filter, your lens however..........

DavidEB
16th of May 2005 (Mon), 09:19
Easy enough to answer the quality question yourself - take a photo with and without the UV filter. I use UV filters that are not quite the cheapest, and have never been able to detect degredation.

I have also replaced several scratched UV filters, and have cleaned really nasty stuff off of UV filters, and was glad that it wasn't my lens.

Wildman
16th of May 2005 (Mon), 09:55
The EF 70-200 f4L uses the same filter size (67mm) as the EF-S 17-85IS. Get a good quality coated UV and a good quality circular polarizer and share them. Putting a cheap filter on a $550 lens doesn't make a lot of sense.

If you're worried about damaging the 70-200, suggest you use the hood that comes with the lens. It' makes the lens look bigger than it is, but will protect it from a clumsy ding (and will make you look really professional or silly).

tlpierce
16th of May 2005 (Mon), 15:29
I *always* have a UV filter on *all* my lenses. I learned one day when I was shooting the young-lovelys-riding-the-mechanical-bull at a local C&W bar. A (unrelated) altercation broke out and I caught a flying beer bottle with the front of my N*k*n 70-210 zoom. Luckily the UV filter protected the front of the lens and there was no other damage (other than me having heart failure when I saw the smashed glass on the front of the lens).

So now there are UV filters on all my lenses, except when I go back to *that* bar, then I put every filter I own on the lens :)