I need support!

[jfrancho]

Taken at Frontier Field in Rochester, NY.

http://plan-b.smugmug.com/photos/22242762-M.jpg

[jfrancho]

No reply. Must be a really mediocre shot.

[exposingmyself]

well, it's a good study for line but i've done this as well and it really isn't an eye popping picture to people who view it, maybe because of the subject-cold iron.

[Titus213]

JF,
Sometimes I wonder if there aren't a lot more techs on the forum than artists:lol: Having said that, I see the artistic value here but haven't gotten to the point where I appreciate it that much. I'm working on it. After 30+ years as a tech (now retired) I have a long way to go.

Put a couple of steel workers on the top or a playboy bunny on the center beam, move it to the Glamour and Nudes section and you'll have a hit.

[jfrancho]

well, it's a good study for line but i've done this as well and it really isn't an eye popping picture to people who view it, maybe because of the subject-cold iron.Thanks. I get a little bored with taking the eye-popping obvious shots and try to make something out of the unusual. Subtlety is sometimes lost in the mix.

[jfrancho]

JF,
Sometimes I wonder if there aren't a lot more techs on the forum than artists:lol: Having said that, I see the artistic value here but haven't gotten to the point where I appreciate it that much. I'm working on it. After 30+ years as a tech (now retired) I have a long way to go.

Put a couple of steel workers on the top or a playboy bunny on the center beam, move it to the Glamour and Nudes section and you'll have a hit.It'll come, Titus213. I myself don't understand a lot of conceptual art. Take this hypethetical conversation with an artist:

Me: "What have you been working on?"

Artist: "I've got a project that open one's eyes to atrocities commited by lacivious blah, blah, more misused big words that sound cool, blah, blah" (You get what I mean.)

Me: "Maybe it would help me understand if I saw the piece you're wotking on."

Artist: "Sure."

The artist leads me into a cluttered studio, and reveals a...

Me: "It's a flippin' white box!"

Artist: "Yeah, man. Isn't it cool?"

Not all art is for everyone, but I certainly don't think mine is "white box" material. But that is whole other discussion. My point is, I don't always get it either. And oh, BTW, I'm a computer geek, so I guess that gives me an excuse....

[dkord]

I understand your desire and attempt but...It doesn't say anything to me.
The lines seems static: No shadow play, No perspective for me to relate to or to lead my eyes.
I just don't like the composition and the lighting seems flat.
Sometimes the time of day will make a differnce with light and shadows.
Is it a tight crop of a straight on flash shot? It looks black and white, what was it like in color?
I would like to see a little more perspective, a single beam running up to where it branches off, composed diaganolly? Or even a tighter crop with a different focal length so you can see more detail? Maybe a play on contrast of those giant steel nuts and beams? All would still have a "support" theme.

Hey it's your photo and art. So take all criticisms with a grain of salt.

I sometime pass on commenting on a shot unless someone asks for a critic or it really stands out.
Sometimes, like in this thread, I haven't seen it yet.
I don't mean to come across indifferent but for most images, I usually withhold comment so I don't come across as overly critical(which I am).

I know that some of the shots I post aren't "winners" to others but I accept the non comments or even better a dialog with creative criticism.

[lostdoggy]

What you need is very wealthy person and an over zealous arts dealer and it will become a Picaso!!! HeHeHe

[jfrancho]

I understand your desire and attempt but...It doesn't say anything to me.
The lines seems static: No shadow play, No perspective for me to relate to or to lead my eyes.
I just don't like the composition and the lighting seems flat.
Sometimes the time of day will make a differnce with light and shadows.
Is it a tight crop of a straight on flash shot? It looks black and white, what was it like in color?
I would like to see a little more perspective, a single beam running up to where it branches off, composed diaganolly? Or even a tighter crop with a different focal length so you can see more detail? Maybe a play on contrast of those giant steel nuts and beams? All would still have a "support" theme.

Hey it's your photo and art. So take all criticisms with a grain of salt.

I sometime pass on commenting on a shot unless someone asks for a critic or it really stands out.
Sometimes, like in this thread, I haven't seen it yet.
I don't mean to come across indifferent but for most images, I usually withhold comment so I don't come across as overly critical(which I am).

I know that some of the shots I post aren't "winners" to others but I accept the non comments or even better a dialog with creative criticism.I really appreciate input and criticism like this. You have the gift of articulation. The image is an uncropped monochrome conversion using the calculations method. I don't know what draws me to girders; I just can't help myself. It is possible to get a try at this one at a different time of day, but I'll have to look at a map to see when the sun will hit at a more acute angle. I like your idea of trying a diagonal comp, that could add some drama. It basically stunk in color - very one dimensional and green. Again, thanks for the time. I've got some similar type pics from Erie Canal, Lockport that I'll put up as soon as I'm done - keep an eye out! I'm looking forward to your input.

[Titus213]

What you need is very wealthy person and an over zealous arts dealer and it will become a Picaso!!! HeHeHe.

Or you could just apply for a grant from the NEA...:lol:

[jfrancho]

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Or you could just apply for a grant from the NEA...:lol:I think that requires talent...