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Paul Li
1st of September 2009 (Tue), 12:59
http://www.usa.canon.com/app/emails/eossep09/images/03_7d_main.jpg
http://www.usa.canon.com/app/emails/eossep09/?WT.mc_id=EM0909EO01003

SoaringUSAEagle
2nd of September 2009 (Wed), 15:33
That looks cool. The more I think about it, the more awesome this camera is to me. I cannot wait for the next 1 series.

TsPoet
2nd of September 2009 (Wed), 15:58
I call fake, Oh, wait, never mind.
Seriously, though - why does the lens say EF instead of EF-S?

dashotgun
2nd of September 2009 (Wed), 16:04
`because it is an ef lens not an efs lens. Mr moto maste of the obvious. I have the same lens on my lowly 40d

ghaleon109
2nd of September 2009 (Wed), 16:05
...Because it's the 28-135mm IS. It's not an EF-S lens.

TsPoet
2nd of September 2009 (Wed), 16:53
http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/Canon_new_lenses.html

The new kit lens with the 7D is supposed to be an EF-S?
All of this is making my poor brain hurt. Canon definitely has too many choices in the ~20-135 mm range.

Paul Li
2nd of September 2009 (Wed), 17:09
http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/Canon_new_lenses.html

The new kit lens with the 7D is supposed to be an EF-S?
All of this is making my poor brain hurt. Canon definitely has too many choices in the ~20-135 mm range.

I'll take any of 'em ;)

k_wakasugi
2nd of September 2009 (Wed), 17:13
http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/Canon_new_lenses.html

The new kit lens with the 7D is supposed to be an EF-S?
All of this is making my poor brain hurt. Canon definitely has too many choices in the ~20-135 mm range.

The new lens introduced with the 7D is an 18-135, not the 28-135 shown above. Although I've heard the 7D is being sold with the 28-135 as a kit.

CyberDyneSystems
2nd of September 2009 (Wed), 17:13
http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/Canon_new_lenses.html

The new kit lens with the 7D is supposed to be an EF-S?
All of this is making my poor brain hurt. Canon definitely has too many choices in the ~20-135 mm range.

But your confusing some rumor page with actual canon lenses.

TsPoet
2nd of September 2009 (Wed), 18:04
But your confusing some rumor page with actual canon lenses.

Nah, just linking to a rumor page when I should have linked to a non-rumor page
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0909/09090103canon15mm28mm18mm135mm.asp

Press Release:
Canon launches two versatile lenses
for impressive everyday use

http://a.img-dpreview.com/news/0909/Canon7d/15mm85mm/both_001.jpg (http://a.img-dpreview.com/news/0909/Canon7d/15mm85mm/both.jpg)
London, UK, 1st September 2009: Canon today strengthens its EF-S series of lenses with the launch of two powerful standard kit lenses for EOS EF-S camera owners: the EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS and the EF-S 15-85mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM. Both lenses match the style and performance of Canon’s new APS-C sensor camera – the Canon EOS 7D.

TsPoet
2nd of September 2009 (Wed), 18:07
The new lens introduced with the 7D is an 18-135, not the 28-135 shown above. Although I've heard the 7D is being sold with the 28-135 as a kit.

So, now I have to figure out which on is better and wait for the new 18-135 or get the kit with the 28-135?
Oh, bother.
I want the sharper lens, regardless of cost.
I'm going to get a 24-70 f/2.8 eventually, except the stupid rumor pages keep indicating a new one is coming out tomorrow, so I want one of these x-135 to tide me over and then to use on my Rebel for camping trips later.

CyberDyneSystems
3rd of September 2009 (Thu), 11:44
Ahh, well the 28-135mm is a very old design, 1st gen IS.
Some like it. some hate it :)

the 28-135mm will work on Full Frame,. the 18-135mm will not buit it is newer design, likely better optics (though that remains to be seen) definitely better IS, and that oh so nice wide 18mm at the low end.

Lore
3rd of September 2009 (Thu), 11:55
15-85 is where its at as a walk around lens IMO... w/ some fast primes in your bag... total sxeness :cool:

I TOO am confused about it being 'labled' as a kit, lens, yet I have yet to see the price point of the 7D kitted with the 15-85 IS USM...

jay-d
4th of September 2009 (Fri), 14:51
Up in Canada, Vistek has prices listed.

7D Body
http://vistek.ca/store/DigitalSLRs/245748/canon-eos-7d-body.aspx

7D w/15-85
http://vistek.ca/store/DigitalSLRs/245749/canon-eos-7d-kit-efs-1585-usm-lens.aspx

7D w/18-135
http://vistek.ca/store/DigitalSLRs/245750/canon-eos-7d-kit-efs-18135-lens.aspx

TsPoet
4th of September 2009 (Fri), 17:48
Up in Canada, Vistek has prices listed.

7D Body
http://vistek.ca/store/DigitalSLRs/245748/canon-eos-7d-body.aspx

7D w/15-85
http://vistek.ca/store/DigitalSLRs/245749/canon-eos-7d-kit-efs-1585-usm-lens.aspx

7D w/18-135
http://vistek.ca/store/DigitalSLRs/245750/canon-eos-7d-kit-efs-18135-lens.aspx


Wow, with the current exchange rate, that's expensive. The "kit" doesn't save you anything from getting the body then getting a lens separately. $US on the 15-135 combo ~ $ 2400.

Skrim17
4th of September 2009 (Fri), 17:55
does it have a pop up flash?

Paul Li
4th of September 2009 (Fri), 19:33
Am also curious about that...

Elphaba
4th of September 2009 (Fri), 19:57
Specs from the Canon site: Digital, AF/AE single-lens reflex camera with built-in flash


http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&fcategoryid=139&modelid=19356#ModelTechSpecsAct

Paul Li
4th of September 2009 (Fri), 20:12
Nice!

Tom W
4th of September 2009 (Fri), 20:56
Canon must still have 3 warehouses full of 28-135 lenses!

Paul Li
4th of September 2009 (Fri), 21:20
If they need those warehouses for something else...I'd be very very happy to take one off their hands...

WMS
4th of September 2009 (Fri), 21:43
The price (for the body only) seems to be about half way between the 50D and the 5D which I would expect. Gee now I want a new camera .......

Wayne

Project22a
16th of September 2009 (Wed), 18:46
So, now I have to figure out which on is better and wait for the new 18-135 or get the kit with the 28-135?
Oh, bother.
I want the sharper lens, regardless of cost.
I'm going to get a 24-70 f/2.8 eventually, except the stupid rumor pages keep indicating a new one is coming out tomorrow, so I want one of these x-135 to tide me over and then to use on my Rebel for camping trips later.

Have you considered the 17-55?

TsPoet
16th of September 2009 (Wed), 18:55
Have you considered the 17-55?

I hadn't considered it. But, I have been looking at it lately. The 17-55 doesn't have as much reach as I'd like, but it's got a great reputation and is the front-runner for a new lens to go with the 7D.