800 ISO photos - are these acceptable, if they were your own?

[skywalkerbeth]

To me, I can see grain. But would you find these acceptable?

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[goosfrabaa]

To me, I can see grain. But would you find these acceptable?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2456/3644215604_e5835b5209_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2671/3886110110_a83258498c_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3437/3886115832_6f06da0fe0_b.jpg

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Find them acceptable for what exactly? I like them, the noise does'nt really bother me except for the first and last one, but I think it adds character to the first (I may be wrong though). If you like 'em then they are acceptable.

I quite like the one showing the tops of the columns by the way.

[liam5100]

I like the comopositions, but its noise not grain. In my opinion, noise is less acceptable than grain. What camera did you shoot these with? It looks like they were under exposed and then pushed in post, that will reveal alot more "noise" than if high iso is exposed properly

[skywalkerbeth]

Hi, thanks.

The 30D. Yes, I used Picasa and pushed it so I could see the details - pretty dark.

[skywalkerbeth]

ps. yeah, the chairs are kind of cool with that noise.

The columns - Mont St Michel!

[KayakPhotos]

Pushing the files will usually result in this in low lit scenes. If at all possible expose to the right by maybe 2/3 stop (being sure to watch for clipped highlights) and then bring the exposure down in pp. If you're shooting handheld this can be pretty difficult in low light, so you might consider a tripod if possible. IS can be very helpful as well.

[skywalkerbeth]

Believe it or not - IS was used as well. These churches were VERY dark inside. IS lens, and 800 ISO - really dark.

[KayakPhotos]

Believe it or not - IS was used as well. These churches were VERY dark inside. IS lens, and 800 ISO - really dark.

I believe you on that one. I never realized how little light there was indoors until taking up photography. Believe it or not you would probably be better off with a correct exposure in ISO 1000-1600 then you would trying to bring back detail by raising the exposure in pp.

[skywalkerbeth]

OK, so is the issue for noise less about the 800 ISO, and more about the fact that in such a dark room I shouldn't have handheld?

Handheld, I had to use perhaps 1/160 and the largest aperture on my 24-105 is 4.0

Thus, it was still dark dark dark.

Had I had a tripod, I could have maybe gone for a full second.

If anyone is reading this and has great examples of 800 ISO, I'd love to see them.

[chopper5654]

i guess i dont like much noise, personally. i was thinking 2 and 3 were fine, but 1 and 4 were a bit grainy for my taste.

i just cant see the "retro" feel with noise. these days i just assume all is digital so the noise can be largely avoided.

just my 2 cents.

[Yesac13]

Handheld, I had to use perhaps 1/160 and the largest aperture on my 24-105 is 4.0

Thus, it was still dark dark dark.



I see you have the 35mm L in your signature. Why not use that one instead of the 24-105? Indoor photography is better done with f/2.8 or below if not using flash...

[Pseudonym]

not a fan of the noise, looks a touch camera phone

Images are otherwise nice

[skywalkerbeth]

I see you have the 35mm L in your signature. Why not use that one instead of the 24-105? Indoor photography is better done with f/2.8 or below if not using flash...


I was in France and only took the 24-105 with me. I didn't take my tripod on this trip. I'm going to take it next time! Especially since I paid almost a grand for the darn thing (with head) and specifically for travel.

[KenVP]

To each is own, i find some nice and the others so - so. It works in some and not others. #1 is one where to me it is not working.

[yogestee]

I find these images have a nice feel about them,, except for the one of the chairs,,the banding at the top spoils this image..

I'm very subjective about noise/grain.. Sometimes it works, other times it doesn't.. I'd put these images in the former catagory..

[sr20ser]

I think the noise would work to your advantage if they were in Black & White.

[Tom Reichner]

The noise in #1 and #4 would be very bothersome to me, if these were my shots. I really have no tolerance for any noise at all in the dark areas of an image. And if you use noise reduction in PP you lose any detail that should be there. I can see using noise reduction in plain areas of an image, but on things like naturally finished wood you should have all the detail of the wood's natural grain. You lose that fine detail when you use NR. Same with feather detail in birds and hair/fur detail in mammals.